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Behold, the WoW Killer.
https://youtu.be/rAubpv_5DYM

Why aren't you playing already?
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>>339854769
>WoW Killer
LOL
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>>339854769

>le wow killer

This time it'll finally happen guys, i'm sure of it.
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>>339854769
>Static died right before 3.3

Well I guess I'm not doing Nidhogg
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>>339854769
WoW is already dead though.
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>>339854769
>WoW Killer
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>>339854769
played this for a while. it looks nice but it's boring as fuck
the only good mmo is runescape
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That third armor better be available for Dragoons
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Lel
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>tfw red scrips
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>>339855761
It looks good, so of course it is, my nin armor make me want to barf.
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>>339855761
where do you get those armor sets?
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MNK is best DPS job
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>>339855429
Did you at least clear A6S?
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>palace of the dead

so she's back?
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>>339854769

>a single player game with multiplayer capabilities
>WoW killer
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>>339855880
You mean the first one?
It's a reference to the Conqueror from The Last Remnant.

I think it looks cool bar the skirt.
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>>339855761
Oh wow, caster armor that actually looks somewhat unique.
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>>339855993
These are pics of the new patch.

http://www.siliconera.com/2016/06/03/final-fantasy-xivs-patch-notes-give-depth-look-patch-3-3/
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>themepark mmo
>boring uninspired wow-clone classes
>hotbar spam combat
i can go on, the game has potential, like, if they just stop doing everything they are doing right now, and do something different, but , they keep just digging their own grave, catering to stupid tryhards for like the better part of 2 years, when literally only like .003% of the players actually completed those tryhard dungeons

they need to start being creative, start making the combat fun and enjoyable, start making the classes more enjoyable to play, because its just so shit.
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>>339856235
That's monk, nin is the catboy.
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>>339856370
>>339856408
>>339855761
Why does ever armor set in HW have a fucking skirt.
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>>339855761
I like these, hope they're the dungeon armors. Monk/nin set looks like it's absed off that bad guy from Last Remnant.

I really like the tank/drg set and the mage/healer mask.
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>>339856408
That's the Void Ark gear.
The pic I posted is the new dungeon gear.
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>>339856575
Only 4 for all roles?
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>>339854769
because even though it's better than wow, it's still mediocre
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>>339856698
Gay cowboy is BRD/MCH
Valkyrie wannabe is Tank/DRG
Tribal goonie is Healer/Caster
Roman visionary is NIN/MNK
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>>339856698
That's how it always is isn't it? Healing one will be the Casting one but a white version. Tanks share with dragoons, except tanks get an extra tabard/skirt. Monks share design with ninjas, bards share with machinists.
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>>339856698
Yes
I think first one is NIN/MNK,
Second one is Casters/Healers,
Third one is Tanks/DRG,
Fourth one is Ranged DPS
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how did FFXIV go from this...
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>>339856947
Lazy shit again. At least ironwork had different set for monk, drg and nin.
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Anyone know what that "New Placeholders have been added" thing is all about?

Will we eventually be able to see Monster HP values?
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>>339857151
to this?
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>>339857275
Yoshi
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Played it a lot, probably done until the next expansion though. Don't feel like playing catch up without a guild.
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>>339854769
>Tera
Hurr durr le WoW killer
>Guild Wars 2
Hurr durr le WoW killer
>Wildstar
Hurr durr le WoW killer
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>>339857227
Ironwork was tome gear, this is just gear from the expert dungeons
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>>339857275
They didn't release it in an alpha state, thinking they could just patch it later.
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>>339857492
Expert is not different.
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>>339857151
>>339857275
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>>339857275
by removing unique inspiring concepts and game design and resorting to copying world of warcraft
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>>339857227
Ironworks MNK and DRG were similar
Ironworks NIN was similar to BRD
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>>339857275
Make the game ugly for consolefags.
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resubbed recently
>tfw no static to raid with
>tfw log in and don't want to do anything, get beasties done and then maybe do a roulette
>tfw fc is just a core group of people who all know each other really well and don't really engage with me because I'm not part of the cult of personality and they've been around since before I even started playing over a year ago
>tfw haven't even done a5-8 because just hit i200 and don't really want to play BLM anymore
>tfw leveling other jobs is boring as shit but I did it anyway
>tfw don't really know what job I even want to play
>tfw 3.3 is coming soon anyway so I might have something to do but not for long
>tfw not even really good at the game in the first place, fuck up any job I really try to get into and can't even pull great dps on my main job
>tfw don't really feel like playing anything else

please kill me it hurts to live
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>>339857412
To be fair, anet didn't expect GW2 kill WoW, they expected it to be an alternative. Which it would have been if it were like FUCKING GW1 INSTEAD OF WOW ON ICE
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>>339857890
What kind of gameplay do you like?
Try to repeat your rotation on a dummy until it sinks in and you can do it with your eyes closed. Don't hesitate to train with Stone, Sky, Sea.
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So what race do you people play as? I wish there was a way to permanently change the idle stance, had to role with a Roe because thats literraly the only role without a diva stance, how can square make something as good as highlander and then give them the most uninspired, lady like stance?
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>>339855429
>static kicked out their own leader
>he sit's in PF for 3 weeks looking for new one

I wonder how did he come to the point of being kicked out from own static
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>>339858214
I play female Highlander and I love the idle stance. They're fit without being too bulky like the femroes and their stance make them look like they don't take shit from anyone.
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>>339858214
You can change stance, I'm a female cat with I'M CIA stance.
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as soon as the game started adding dumb new races, and when collecting mounts and pets were considered 'content' i knew it was time to stop playing
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>>339857890
What server you on?
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>>339858138
I enjoyed the big numbers of BLM, but I stopped loving it when I had to become a turret or lose 50% of my DPS for a huge amount of time.
I've got MCH to 55, but I'm not really sure how good I am with it because there's no real reliable way of knowing how I'm doing until I hit 60 and can compare my parses to others. Same for DRG, which I got to 50 for no fucking reason.

I managed to level ACN to 60, but SMN isn't my speed and I'm not too keen on having to manage pet stuff for SCH (but maybe that's just because I'm bad).

Currently trying to get WAR up, but I'm not a good tank. I end up either DPSing too much or running out of TP.

>>339858957
Ultros.
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>>339859287
Also, MCH has a turret mode anyway, so I'm not even sure about that anymore. Half of what kept me going was the sweet draw animation of the Ironworks gun.
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>>339858505
Yeah love the way they look, im a guy though, so I im only talking about the male classes, all female classes look great imho, besife the lizard one, which looks kawwai desu.

>>339858571
You can change the pose, butthe stance is always the same, poses only kick in after 5 seca anyway, I meant the default idle stance and animation.
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Has getting gear moved beyond doing roulettes for tomes? That shit was annoying a year ago, and I can't imagine it would be any better while trying to play catch up.
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>>339855761
>Caster armor is semon demon tier
>not gay long robes

Finally we're making the transition from stuffy aristrocat ishgard shit to slim ala mhigan clothing.
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>>339857890
Are you on leviathan? I'll play with you!
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>>339859287
Damn, I'm on Exodus.
But it's normal for a WAR to bleed TP while leveling. Especially at earlier levels. You should avoid spamming Overpower and throw in some Flash from GLA if you have trouble managing AoE threat.
But tanking in non-savage content is pretty easy and as WAR you're basically a 3rd DPS role anyway
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>>339859287
SCH pet mechanics are pretty bare bones.

99% of your interaction with the fairy is just positioning and recalling Selene before and after a pull. Eos doesn't come out that often, and even then she's just clicking a few abilities sometimes.
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>>339857890
I'm on Ultros and always play with new people, if you're in ZR I'll play with you when I resub, in 4.0.
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>>339856109
where is that armor from?
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>>339860073
Hello fellow ZRian
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>>339856109
>same chest on female
They could have edited it a little.
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>>339860305
well.. most male characters feel the same way about 80% of the armor sets
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>>339855863

I always forget to do Gathering and Crafting Red Scrips.

But then again, my HQ Crafting gear doesn't have materia in in yet so that sucks. What's the best profession to get red scrips from anyway?
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>>339855761
FFXIV needs more of these kinds of references.
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>>339860068

My biggest concern with trying to heal as SCH (Mid 40s right now) is that I have trouble trusting a pet to do the right thing.

How closely do you watch HP meters as you help DPS?
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>>339860552
Clerical clothing are always dresses, it's not like they were designed for females.
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>>339854769
I'll play if they do a 7-day trial thingy for returning people again. Mainly interested in seeing how dead the game/server is before I spend any shekels.
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>>339860850
If you know the fight, not very.

Just don't account for fuck ups on their behalf and you're good. As much as people like to talk shit, people generally don't stand in orange circles so with a little bit of experience you can predict exactly when people are going to take unavoidable damage.
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>>339860750
Hope the chest is braless.
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>>339861091

Yeah, my biggest concern was triage.

I know most fights pretty well from the tanking perspective: got all three to 60 but never really worked on healers or DPS all that much. Finally got a few above 50.
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So I always heard about the lolDRG meme but I never really paid it any mind until I started playing healer. Then it became glaringly obvious that it was always the DRG I was having to heal because he simply refused to dodge shit. I even wound up taking DRG to 50 myself later just to see if there was some reason why these shitters were having trouble dodging and I think I can count on one hand the number of AoEs I ate during the entire process.

What is it about that job that transforms people into drooling retards?
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>>339861841
If the healer isn't DPSing I'll just stand in shit. The healer can handle it and it keeps my damage up. No reason to move out of anything that isn't instantly fatal.

I'll dodge shit if the healer actually goes into cleric most of the time, though.
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considering WoW's popularity for the last 12 years, how much money has Blizz made from it?
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>>339854769
but wow already killed itself
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>>339859410
>Also, MCH has a turret mode anyway
that's not even close to turret mode, most of your skills instant when you actually need them instant
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>>339861841
You can't move for a good 10 seconds when using jump, spineshatter and dragondive.
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Currently holding onto 1340 Lore.

Buy the Tank weapon, or get the rest of the Aiming stuff, keeping in mind that the belt, Neck and Head suck ass entirely.
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>>339860068
Generally, is it a good idea to just stick the fairy as close to the general party center as possible? What about during bosses? Should I just stick Selene in the center and pretend mechanics don't matter?

>>339860073
>>339860250
ZR is pretty ded right now, yeah.
It's sad seeing the login totals now compared to 3.0.

>>339861090
They had one a couple months ago. Probably not going to have another for a while.

>>339861841
I think what really got lolDRG going was the jump animation lock getting a lot of people trapped in AoEs.
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>>339861841
Dragoons has several off GCD abilities that lock them in place for some time and make them vulnerable to AoEs.
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>>339862746
that was pre 2.1, now its only 5 seconds
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>>339862803
Just get a Nidhogg weapon next week.
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>>339863119
So.. Tank armor? Alright.
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Are there any good players on Balmung here? I just recently came back and would like to do Nidhogg EX next week.
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>>339855761
>Same fucking hat from Neverreap and Fractal for MCH/BRD

YOSHI PLS
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>>339863235
>same hat
>Baldur was a Cowboy hat.

No, no it wasn't.
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>>339863235
??

The Neverreap thing is like a domed cap. This is a cowboy hat. The fuck are you smoking.
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>>339863516
>>339863419
I know that hat was in before because it looked like Skullface's hat from MGSV. It might have been Pharos/Saints.
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>>339862841
Fairy placement sometimes depends on the fight, but I usually just stick it between the ranged and the melee.

Just make sure it's within range to give the melee it's haste buff.
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>>339863235
Wrong dungeon.
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>>339863697
Nope. Completely brand new hat. Lost Thief set doesn't look like that.
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>>339863861
My bad then.
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>>339862629
this
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>Heavenshills still trying to get people to play their fashion catgirl simulator
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>>339860850
You manually use Embrace to tell your pet who to cure. While the pet's natural AI is passable, you can be more efficient and effective if you place your pet's Embraces. It's a good habit to develop early.
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>>339864109
Hard to play fashion when nothing look good.
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>>339854769
>WoW Killer
Stop this meme jesus fucking christ. 10 years and it's not been funny once.
>>339855761
I actually really like that MCH one. Might look good on my c@. Of course i'd have to level MCH...
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>>339864109
>that one faggot who comes into a rare instance of /v/ actually discussing a video game and shitposts strawmen
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>>339863953
You forgot to update it
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Have they showed off the new DOL/DOH gear yet?
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>>339864756
First one is DOL, second one is DOH
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>>339864756
Yeah, its the Ironworksesque armor.
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>>339865316
>>339865324
So uniclass armor. Not bad, will make getting everything that isn't my specialty caught up. Will probably be needed to craft the dyable dreadwyrm gear anyway.
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>>339865316
Hm, that looks pretty cool don't get me wrong, but I like my Botanist to look.. natury(?).
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>>339864581
Are there any numbers for 2016?
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>>339865809
You can always glamour. I think they only did one set people had enough of having to make multiple sets for each profesion.
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>>339865937
None, that stops when they stopped giving out numbers.

It can't have gotten better, there hasn't been a fucking content update since before then.
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>>339865937
They stopped reporting numbers after this. I'll let you guess the reason.
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Good patch for BRDs.
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> /mogdance
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>>339866001
I know, and I will probably try something new out since it'll be new gear. I understand why they do it for sure.
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id play it on ps4 but im so far behind ill never catch up
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>>339866197
>song cast times down

This is all i've ever wanted. Thank you Yoshi-san.
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>>339864138

Do you play with a keyboard? If so, can I see your keybindings? This has been my biggest issue so far with non-tanks; getting a comfortable layout with the bindings. PLD, DRK and WAR felt pretty natural to layout compared to what I've been doing with SMN, WHM, BLM and SCH.
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>>339866457
As a caster, BV getting knocked down to 3 minutes makes me moist.
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>>339866197

>Battle voice recast time has been reduced from 300 to 180 seconds

I don't even play BRD and I'm happy about this. No more waiting a billion hours for the BRD to get all his CDs back.
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>>339857890
This is either ZR or GAF.
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>>339866359
me again, its a shame really. because I think FF14 looks super fun. I just dont see myself catching up ever. I can only play a few hours a day as well
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>>339866359
What server are you on?
And where did you last leave off?

Get with some friends, and you'll catch up in no time.
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>>339867073
I only play it for an hour or two a day, every other day and I'm caught up. It isn't too bad to stay up to date.
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>>339867073
>I just dont see myself catching up ever

You're wrong. This game is designed from the ground up to be easy to catch up on. The hardest thing is just getting up to 60 and reaching the minimum ilevel requirement for expert roulette, after that its just a matter of being able to cap the current locked tomestone, which takes a minimum of 6 expert roulettes or an average of 30 minutes over 6 days.
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>>339866359
they make odd numbered patches specifically to catch up
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>[3.0] The drop rate for luminous crystals required to undertake the quest "Soul without Life" has been increased.
Should I even bother trying to level a secondary class or two on FATEs for this bullshit. Getting to i200 doesn't look too bad, i210 looks awful and i230 seems okay
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>>339854769
>Buy to play
>Buy subscription to keep playing
>Buy mandatory expansion packs worth 1 full retail game each release

Who has money for this shit
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>>339867589
The only hard part of the anima weapon is the 210 step. We're going to have to see how bad the new lights are though.
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>>339867637
You're telling me that you can't afford 60 dollars total then 10 bucks a month? Do you live on shitty autism bucks or work at McDonalds?
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>>339867637
>base game and expansion costs $20 at gamestop
>30 days gametime included with purchase
>$13 a month to play after that

who doesnt have $13 to burn every month
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>>339867589
Holy fuck how could they think keeping the 80 fucking item shit was a good idea still.
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>>339867708
The new step will be exactly like the Novus Weapon except you won't need materia.
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>>339867898
There's someone in my FC with 3 i230 relics. Supposedly there is a simple way for the items, but I don't see how outside of the maps for the shells, then beast tribes for the others.
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>>339867708
I guess I should throw in that I'm currently at i210 weapons because I'm a lazy shit.
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>WoW killer
>plays just like WoW
>becoming what you murder
Sure thing anon I'm right behind you!
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>>339854769
Behold the WoW clone that has less than 400k subs.
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>>339868035
>plays just like WoW
LOL
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>>339868115
That rotation looks overly long. Isn't it just the same thing repeated?
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>>339868035
Having many friends who either like one or the other, I'd say it's more like the preference between Pepsi and Coke.

There are some differences, while remaining more similar than different.

In the end, you'll easily prefer 1 over the other.
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>>339868357
Not exactly. I don't even know what the fuck at 60 but at 50 DRG had a staggered rotation where you only did the Chaos combo after two Full Thrust combos, so while there was an easy to remember pattern if you wrote it out it was long as shit.
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>>339868115
As someone who is literally playing both currently I like WoW's classes more for the most part. That chart is a prime example of disinfo that is exagerrated in image form. Dragoon is seriously like 1234 then 1567. I like WoW classes because they have a lot of random procs.
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So if i want to play this game I'm gonna have to buy the base game, heavensward and this new expansion pack all at once?
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>>339868357
That picture is trying to "Maximize" the dmg, by showing what ability would be best used, while others are on CD. THEN shows how many times you need to pick that priority, until it finally repeats itself.

Thing is, technically the same can be done with WoW rotations, and so the picture is misleading. (WoW rotations do tend to repeat with less abilities, but that example tries not to show it.)
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>>339868357
The game lags so bad that melee are largely irrelevant anyway unless you're in an encounter that forces a melee setup which it normally does. And I don't need to tell you that encounters that force extremely specific setups is bad design, right?

>>339868437
That's a strange way of saying they're both shit.
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>>339868639
>Thing is, technically the same can be done with WoW rotations, and so the picture is misleading
This is what I was getting at.
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>>339868637
There is only 1 expansion, which they are bundled together usually. (both pretty much go for $20, or $40 together)
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>>339868637
You would only need the base game. Heavensward is the only expac right now. You don't need it right away, just if you want to play the new race.
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>>339868637
you don't need heavensward until you finish the base game
there are no other expansions
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>>339868598
>I like to mash 3 buttons in hopes of getting a random number increase
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>>339868357

It's skipping all the off-GCD skills so it's even longer.
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>>339868709
>melee are largely irrelevant
>monks are the top dps
Alrighty then
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>>339857151
>>339857275
so how different was the game back then?
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>>339868935
Everyone I know who plays Monk in savage says the job is pretty braindead after a certain point. High floor, low ceiling. Not sure what this is trying to illustrate.
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>>339868935
Monk is the same shit as DRG as I just said. Its two combo lines and a DoT if I recall correctly.
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>>339869102
Everyone I know who plays [insert class here] in savage says the job is pretty braindead after a certain point.
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>>339869014
Top DPS in stand-still fights, maybe. Any fight that requires you to move a ranged DPS will take top billing. Any fight that has AoE a ranged AoE class will take top. And let's not start on PvP.
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>>339868115

That's not fair, should compare warrior vs warrior.
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>>339869020
It was shit, it looked pretty, but it was basically trying to be an update version of ffxi, combat was slow too until they updated it to today's "mmo standards"
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>major content patch
>not even a followup to the triad/regulus thing or main plot

Nerf that 200-210 relic step and maybe I'll come back for a month.
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>>339868637
you can't even touch HW content with clearing all of ARR's main story quest

but buy both so you don't waste your time with extra leveling by getting locked at level 50 cap as base games content can get you to around level 53
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>>339869232
Aoe I won't argue, but even in fights that require lots of movement dragons and monks are consistently top, the biggest exception being a blm if they don't have to move a lot
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>>339869259
>2.5s GCD
>""""mmo standards""""
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>>339854769
Does anyone have a link to the song that plays during the new MSQ presentation?
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>>339869227
Sure you could say that about any job but seeing as these people actually know what the fuck they're doing, I believe them.

Monk players are usually the only people I see saying "My job is easy."
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>>339869350

There's a story quest about what Regula is up to.
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>>339869383
>the biggest exception being a blm if they don't have to move a lot
Translation: BLMs that are catered to in Midas
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>>339869020
1.0 had better graphics, better crafting, a player-driven economy, a world that had some risk while exploring and less instances. Most dungeons were in the open world. It failed because it was an alpha version of a game. The players who payed for the update - legacy account holders - all asked them to update the game so it wasn't an alpha anymore. Yoshi P ignored it and made a WoW clone.
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>>339869396
it's a remix of ishgard's theme
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>>339869383
I should correct myself, highest single target goes to monk or drg

Drg being overall raid damage because litany, monk being meh because t offers nothing other than damage, dragon kick being hit or miss if you have a drk
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>>339869626
Translation: monks are shit because of the overwhelming lag melee DPS have to suffer through but you're forced to bring them because dispell.
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>>339869145
Not in Heavensward it isn't
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>>339869227
Monk is VERY easy. The fact that anyone can be bad at it makes no sense.
>hurr youre just a DRG/NIN trying to make MNK look bad

I been monk since 2.0
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>>339869570
>better crafting,

Fuck off
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>>339869403
Everyone who mains a job says their job is easy. I've played every DPS class at 60. If I were to rank the DPS by difficulty I'd say
MCH
NIN
MNK
DRG
BLM
BRD
SMN

from hardest to easiest. Yes I'm an SMN main.
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>>339869813

What?
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>>339869813
What lag? I never experienced any during my savage days
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>>339869532
what is every top parsing blm ever
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>>339869813
what the fuck are you talking about
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>>339870049
>Everyone who mains a job says their job is easy.
This is probably the case.

I main SMN but I can't really compare it to anything else at 60 yet. I don't find SMN particularly easy though.
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>>339869813

>Translation: monks are shit because of the overwhelming lag melee DPS have to suffer through but you're forced to bring them because dispell.

There's no lag for melee DPS, you can reliably hit a moving target with close to no problem. Also dispell is useless in PvE.
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>>339869813
Translation: nice shit posting cuck
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Because I can't afford a time card. My Thaumaturge sits in wait.
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>>339860195
PvP
It's the i180 monk/ninja set, "Set of the Rising/Falling Dragon."
Most ballin outfit ingame.
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>>339870049
Even if there is some truth to it.
>nin
>hard
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>>339869915
The main complaint about 1.0 crafting was that you needed multiple crafted items from other crafting and gathering classes and leveling those classes took a long time. In 2.0 you still need multiple reagents from multiple classes and it still takes a long time to craft. The only difference is that you can no longer make something that's HQ+2.

>>339870052
>>339870076
>>339870123
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>>339870216
If you're clear out of the giant red AoE circle of death that melee have to deal with the server will still count it a hit if you're still inside the giant AoE circle of death if it thinks you're still in it, which is normally a good half second behind what's on your screen. The only way to guarantee yourself not to be hit by those things is to do it pre-emptively.
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>>339870175
Here is the thing with SMN

You put down a shadow flare, apply your 3 dots, and have your pet on target. Until bio drops off in 18 seconds, you can do NOTHING else and you'll still be doing 50% of your total damage output.

50% OF YOUR TOTAL DAMAGE OUTPUT!

That needs no more mechanical input from you.
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>>339868035
>plays just like WoW
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>>339855761
They finally added a cape!
Time to resub
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>>339870508
>Getting hit by AoE's as melee

Not everyone has cup and string internet, anon.
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>>339870175

i've played every job at 60, smn is definitely hard to play, but i feel like even though it's strong, it's just a poorly designed class in general, it doesn't feel like it has a natural flow to it unlike pretty much every other class

one thing that pisses me off still is you can't use direct pet commands at the same time you cast spells still
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>>339870508
no it won't lmao, you just have to move out before the cast bar is full
you sound like those shitter who keep getting hit by titan's landslide because they think they can move out before the animation plays
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>>339870526
Fair enough. The part I find the most difficult is awkward add phases (where AoE isn't an option) or molding your play around a specific fight in raids.

But I guess that's most jobs for the latter and not specific to SMN.
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>>339870508
See
>>339870672
>>339870726
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>>339870526

I main SMN and if you do what you said your dps won't even reach 600. You have to be very active with the SMN to do high dps on single target. Yeah, we don't suffer as much as the BLM when we have to move to dodge something but in echange they can deal a fuckton of DMG every time they cast Fire IV while we need to have every debuff on, cast every ruin we can, manage the egi, use our dreadwyrm trance at the right moment, etc.

SMN is easyer on the theory but when you need good dps it's a real pain in the ass to compete against single target jobs.
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>>339870508
>not learning the fight rotations so you get caught by AOEs
Sure thing guy
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when did mmos become muh rotations
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>>339854769
>stopped playing right after knights of the round ex got released due to college
>havent played since

Tell me,what did i miss, and will i be able to do everything up until the current patch? Surely theres still people doing old content right?
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>>339870735
at least ruin III helps a little against weak adds
before HW it was a nightmare
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>>339870672
You could have god tier internet and it wouldn't help because square has toaster servers.

>>339870726
>they think they can move out before the animation plays

Why is this such a strange thing to request from developers? Everyone asked them to fix this from 1.0 to 2.0 and they clearly never did. It's bad design. It's only compounded by the fact that you could be well clear of the giant red circle of death and still get hit.

>>339870857
You could give me more than 2 minutes to write a reply you fuckwit.

>>339870972
When devs stopped making good MMOs and started making WoW clones.

>>339870952
Hardly the point.
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>>339871016
Oh absolutely. That recent buff is a godsend for that. Way better now then what it used to be like.
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>>339870526
It's just irritating how SMN does less single target damage than BLM. BLM seems so boring by comparison, but because of the way SMN is designed it's just not as good for anything outside of A2 or The Vault or other shit where tons of AoE is useful.
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>[2.0] Reputation points awarded for completing the Amalj'aa, Sylph, Sahagin, Kobold, and Ixali beast tribe daily quests have been increased.

Time to get the Goobbue and Bomb mount.
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>>339871098
Sorry I don't wait for you to react
>much like those aoes
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>>339870719
>smn is definitely hard to play,
It's not

>it's just a poorly designed class in general
It's literally the most elegant class in the game

Everything, EVERYTHING run on a 60 second timer. The entire class is based around Aetherflow. It's cooldown dictates everything you do. Unlike other classes where the player has to build an internal clock of where their rotation should be, Aetherflow does it for you. Aethertrail stacks work into this system perfectly as well. You can extend your trail stacks over 90 seconds to insure you have 3 available when Aetherflow comes off cooldown, so you can go into trance with 3 flow stacks.
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I did it /v/.

I just got my 3rd 230 relic
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>>339870049
Different people are better at different things.
Despite how similar they can all seem, the small differences make some classes easier for me, than others, but those very same classes, prove to have a different difficulty for friends of mine.

But there are some scenarios where a class ends up being considered easy by the majority of people, like Paladin. (Depending on which patch you played it, its only difficulty was enmity at certain level ranges)

But back to DPS, I'd have to say they all seemed challenging in their own way.
I'd agree with MCH being the hardest,but i find more challenge in BLm than the rest, while my NIN and MNK feel easy to me. (and my DPS results show I suck at BLM)
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>>339870952
Wait, are you saying you learn the fight just so you CAN be caught by the AoEs? You must really like dying,friend.
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>>339871257
Way to not argue the point at all.
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>>339871164
if SMN did as much single target damage as BLM it would be completely broken, anon
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>>339871098
>Why is this such a strange thing to request from developers? Everyone asked them to fix this from 1.0 to 2.0 and they clearly never did. It's bad design. It's only compounded by the fact that you could be well clear of the giant red circle of death and still get hit.

It's not bad desing, it's how the game works. The enemy cast an aoe, if you are inside the aoe when the cast ends you are hit. It works in both sides and the game's tutorial tells you about it.

You totally sound like that kind of guy that keeps dying at landslide. I had the same problem as you had when I started playing FFXIV after 4 years of wow, just get over it like I did and pay attention to the cast bars.
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>>339870508
The game has done some improvements to help avoid this issue, but sadly, it still remains server side.

I find Titan a joke now, even with the same internet connection, but sometimes, i still find myself hit by some of the shorter AoE indicators.

But yes, this wasn't a 100% the games fault, though it did need to be client side.
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>>339854769
>PC is straight garbage
>No PS4
>PS3 version is virtual cancer
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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Is this better than GW2?
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>>339871098
If you're getting hit by AoE's a lot and don't doing damage like you're suppose to do as a melee DPS. You should honestly just off yourself.
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>>339871292
How bad is the 210 step if I have 1 ARR Beast Tribe maxed and both HW?
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>>339871292
Absolute madman
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>>339871431
>not using best girl tsuyu
You lost your time card
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>>339871509
Anything is better than GW2.
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>>339871509
I don't think it's a fair comparison because GW2 is complete fucking dogshit
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>>339871573
Enjoy running every roulette every day for about 3 weeks.
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>>339871509
It's not the same as gw2
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>>339871292
other than playing the game for 20 hours a day what are doing to get items that fast?

I've been at it for weeks and only at 40/80 unidentifieds
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What anime do you guys like watching while grinding?
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>>339871573
You may as well kill yourself now to save the pain.
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>>339870947
That's what I always try to explain to people, but it seems you said it better.

They all can "Seem" easy, but to actually get the numbers, they all have their challenges.
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>>339871587
welp, might as well just kill myself
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>>339871292
>still need to max cabbage and lizards
>dol/doh at 50
Hate this step so much, fuck crafters
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>>339871732
>sword art online for 1000% immersion

Jk no but mushi shi is nice when gathering in those forests
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>>339871732
I watch pro wrestling pod cast.
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>>339871593
>>339871641

Welp, I'm itching for a MMO, been playing GW2 lately but the fact that I have all the skills available right of the fucking bat makes me wonder how monotonous the game will be later on.

I even bought an Elder Scrolls Online key very cheap, 15 bucks, the game itself took 85gb to install but looked worse than vanilla Skyrim, what the fuck.
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>>339871587
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>>339871724
Expert, 50's roulette, PvP roulette, Vanu, Vath, Amaj'aal and Sylphs. And the odd hunt here and there if they get called over the linkshells and i can be bothered to go out and kill it.

But from what ive listed takes only about 2 hours or so a day, which i do before and after i go to and come home from work.
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>>339871782
Much better
Jk anon I'm broke too and sad I won't get that cool gnath shawl chest piece for a long time
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>>339871573
Wait until the nerf tier
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>>339871438
>>339871503
>>339871552
>if you are inside the aoe when the cast ends you are hit

But you're not inside the AoE. That's the entire point. It was exactly the same in 1.0. You could be well clear of the AoE and still get hit and often do, and for no real reason other than shitty game design. Server-side turtle-slow hit detection combined with AoE boxes that will hit you unless you are as far as humanly possible from it when it decides to go off (which is also seemingly random due to the lag.)

If I sound like that guy that dies to landslide it's because the guy that dies to landslide is correct. You're only avoiding landslide because you know it's coming and moving to the opposite end of circular boss arena #104934 pre-emptively. This is a disadvantage to melee because melee need to be in melee range to do damage. What a shocker. Meanwhile ranged DPS can move or just stay out of harms way indefinitely. This is why I said that melee DPS is largely irrelevant in the game unless the developers FORCE you to take melee DPS for dispel, or box you into a fight that requires you to do physical damage instead of magical which (AGAIN) is bad design.
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>>339871364
Yeah I know, but the point was simply that it's a more fun job that's not as useful or desired for most things because it's designed for things that aren't in high demand. It's just silly that you're ace in A2 but second fiddle in pretty much everything else.
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>>339871732
>still playing this game
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>>339871909
You sound like a smart guy

Download the FFXIV trial and see if you like it, but keep in mind the combat is very slow at low levels
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>>339872023
at least we have memes
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>>339871757
>but it seems you said it better.

And english is not even my mother language. Guess I'm improving it a fucking lot.
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>>339871917
MORE

HOLY SHIT
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>>339871917
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>>339871431
>>339870331
>can't afford a $13 sub
Don't you fuckers have jobs?
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>>339872127
I dont have anymore
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>>339854769
Gw2 is a thing
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>>339871732
What the fuck am I watching. This isn't GuP is it?
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>>339872197
lol
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>>339872069
Unless those peopel experience what you and I went through, they won't know about needing to "pre-dodge" all the while, as you dodge before an AoE even shows up, they will still call you a sh*tter.

They aren't going to get it through their head.
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>>339872069
For the last time retard, play attention tot he cast bar of the enemy. Now you'll never get hit by an AoE ever in your life.
kys for being this bad
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>>339872196
I wanted the seinen artstyle with the froppy face.

That was really exciting.
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>>339872187
No because the economy in Alberta is shit and nowhere is hiring, even shit like McDonalds isn't
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>>339871909
ff is slow as balls early, but once you start hitting 35-40 it picks up, and then you HAVE to perform good rotations at 60, or be an asshole like me and only spam overpower as a tank
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>>339872235
Movie of the year.
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>>339872105
Oh shit waddup!
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>>339872257
Yeah but like I said theres no more like that
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>>339872069

Dude, I'm from spain. I have fucking 20Mb connection and I was "that guy that dies to landlside" until I git gud, stopped to care about the circle and cared about the cast bar.

Once again, if you are inside the aoe when the cast bar reaches the top you are hit. Doesn't matter if during the animation you move 200000 miles away, you are hit.

If I can kill Titan EX with a fucking pseodo 3rd world connection withouth dying everybody can.

Git fucking gud.
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>>339854769
>Why aren't you playing already?
I did and it was boring as fuck. Not to mention the art style was so bland.
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