What is /v/'s opinion on achievements? Do you think they're an okay thing to have? Are there certain do's and don'ts to achievements?
What about achievements that unlock things in-game, like weapons or cosmetics?
bump so it doesn't die before I get an answer
>tfw buying different region games
>tfw buying 360, xbox one and windows version of game just to get more achievements
Help me.
>>339818502
They're fine, but kinda dumb.
They certainly aren't leaving now, though.
It's nice to get the little notification when you unlock them. makes me feel like my life has meaning :^)
>>339820332
I know that feel. Afyer 100k I think I finally am over achievements. I want to play good games and don't want to play games in monotonous ways to get one achievement.
they add a challenge, it aslo gives motivation to keep Playing
>>339820826
>do this 100x
>only two opportunities in whole game
Meaningless at the end of the day but eh, they don't add anything negative so why not.
>>339818502
its a nice motivation for playing some shit games i guess,
Also they sometimes make me play the game in repetitive monotonous ways to unlock some,
thus almost ruining my overall game enjoyment
Depends on how they're done.
Achievements are shit and do nothing but distract you when they pop up. Turn notifications off and pretend they don't exist.
Cheap 'reweard' to get out of actual unlockables.
Don't:
>grinding achievements. Or, if you absolutely has to ramp up their number, make them doable during the course of normal game. Nothing is more infuriating then having to do X 20 times more then you did while completing the game;
>multiplayer achievements. Absolutely completely perfectly NO. It's nice to get one during gameplay, but ultimately it leads to frustration because there are at least ten other people on your and enemy team who are too busy doing achs to care about proper game;
>spoilering secrets. Destroys exploration and makes game into activity check-list;
>unlocks tied to achievements. Worst thing to happen to games since DLCs.
Do:
>nice annotations. It can be little messages from dev-team, or comments, or littleunfunnyjokes, or maybe hints to do something else;
>nice arts, probably with ability to get hands on it for other purposes.
In fact. Don't do them at all. Of course it's nice to get them, but I think they do more damage then anything good.
>multiplayer achievements
Pretty pointless. I'm sure they get a few extra sales on every game because there are people out there who buy games simply to increase their trophy/achievement number
>>339821151
>RDR
>doesn't care about achievements at all
>friends are achievements addicts
>still plays better then them
>they keep saying "but i platinum'd the game how can i lose?"
there are better ways to waste time on video games. like discovering bugs, glitches and exploits
>>339818502
>>339821108
Wouldn't achievements where you unlock stuff just be the same as just unlocking something?
>tfw you haven't bought the last 2 or 3 Nep games and you feel like you're disappointing all the Neps
H-help me.
>>339821257
>halo 3
>get an overkill in FFA
>get an extermination
>kill two people in FFA with one shot of the spartan laser
>get a perfect
seriously what the fuck
>>339821375
>no PS4
>no Victory II
>no job
>all the fast food chains around me hire black people exclusively
>>339821441
>the joke is RDR multiplayer is literally unplayable
>>339818502
I only like them when they unlock things like in Air Ride.
>>339818502
theyre sweet lies that games whisper in your ear to pretend you've done something
theyre for mouthbreathers who have no initiative or originality
theyre actively diminishing videogames as a respectable art form
theyre for morons
>trophies or achievements that require you to complete the game multiple times
>the ones that require literally days of grinding
>the ones that are multiplayer-only
>the ones that are locked under DLC but still count toward the overall total
I fucking hate achievements and trophies, but I can't help but want to get them. I already like to 100% games, but these make it such a boring chore I wish they never existed.
>>339821814
it's all in your mind
>>339821441
I got the extermination by camping in a tunnel in Rat Pit with a ripped off turret. I was near having a heart attack during the final 3 kills.
>play FF7 on PS1
>get Yuffie and Vincent as a hidden characters, raise a gold chocobo to get Knights of the Round, get the final limit breaks, get master materia
>play FF7 on PS4
>do all of those things, now you get trophies for them
It's literally the same thing. Random autistic things you can do on the side that are completely optional. If you think raising a gold chocobo is too hard and pointless to do, then you just fucking skip it and finish the rest of the game. Same goes with trophies and achievements. It's the one thing I don't understand about people who are vehemently anti-achievements, they're completely ignorable and there are even options to remove notifications for them. So why the fuck are you still complaining about them?
Ed Edd eddy online has alot of achievements, the only bad is the impossible achievements
>Defeat eddy's brother under 2 minutes
>defeat a Rolf without taking damage
They're like unlockables except you get fucking nothing.
Achievements a shit.
>>339818502
They need to be constructed specifically for the game, like the scans in Metroid Prime, or the emblems in Knytt Underground, or the stamps in Wii Sports Resort.
That unified cross-game bullshit for "showing them online" can fuck right off.
>>339822142
Why? Are you self conscious that you're a casual who can't 100% a single game?
>>339822076
>not having all ed edd eddy online achievements
casual neo-neo /v/ everyone
>>339821965
Pardon, I think I meant perfect? I can't remember. Which one was the one where you get 10 kills without dying and it unlocks a helmet? It's been a long time.
>>339820230
/thread
>>339822217
No, I just don't want my game worlds invaded by generic dashboard graphics.
>>339822223
i have you know i 100% Toiletland till the update
>>339822343
But you specifically mentioned showing them online.
>>339820230
>They certainly aren't leaving now, though.
Feels pretty good to only play games where they never showed up in the first place.
>>339821814
>Pure Bladestone in Demon's Souls
>>339822076
Rolf's one just pissing me off
WHO THINK IT WAS A GOOD IDEAD
>>339822440
I mentioned that because that's what all the platforms that have unified achievement systems seem to be using them for.
>>339822768
And what's wrong with that?
>>339823064
Nothing.
There's something wrong with most game developers allowing those systems to overlay the game with dashboard graphics to inform you of achievements.
So I toggle it off.
>>339822076
If you're playing Ed, just respec to the Chameleon Man build and one-shot him from stealth. If that doesn't kill him right away just pop a Cambodian jawbreaker for the invuln buff and finish him off.
>>339821441
>he never got a perfection
>>339823170
>not going Sleep-Eater Ed
>>339823840
What's with the sudden infatuation with Dan Backslide on /v/?
The only reason I like achievements is because Xbone has gorgeous full res achievement art, 99% of Forza Horizon 2's achievements are god tier wallpapers.
>>339824241
Faggots from /co/ forcing an old meme that wasn't even much of a meme. There's probably something involving their retarded Jojo fanfic too.Why do good things have to be spoiled like this?
>>339824808
Jojo and Dover Boys? I'd have to see that before I believe it.
By which I neglect mentioning that I don't want to believe it.
>>339821642
>They didn't just turn on that 5x exp rate they had for months a couple years back permanently when the community basically died out.
>That one giant canyon at the starting area is more or less the only place that gives you any EXP at all.
>At current rates just getting to 50 would take you dozens of hours of grinding that same canyon over and over and over.
>Going to FFA overworld just gets you instantly killed as you spawned unless it changed with the dying playerbase.
>Doing those group or FFA matches gives you less EXP than a minute or two of the canyon despite taking nearly double
I managed to hit something like 43 due to the increased EXP rate and then when I saw the default rate a couple days later I couldn't do it.
>>339825357
you forgot
>the spawn-camping fucktards
75K Gamerscore right now, I've been fighting to get to 100k so I can get it out of my system.
I feel this urge to hit 100k or die trying, but I'm not at the point where I'd whore myself out to play cheap games like Avatar: The Last Airbender for an instant 1000G.
At worst I might give in and run through the entire lego series if I give up my dignity.
>>339826484
But the Lego games are fun and even if they're easy they require a relatively decent time investment to 100% them. The Star Wars Complete Saga basically requires you to go through the levels something like three times(First run, Free Play, Blue Minikit timed collect-a-thon) and it's the most annoying one because of it.
I got all the Netflix achievements.
>>339820230
This.
>>339821046
This.
They all but killed cheat codes as well. Can't be giving achievements if your cheating now can we? At least gta let's you turn that shit off to use cheats.
>>339818502
Achievements are fucking cancer
its something from outside the game that tells you how you have to play the game
on top of that they put pressure on you (if you want to 100% the game) to not to miss anything of the ridiculously tedious time wastes it requires you to do, not to mention some times it even requires you to play online
It completely devalues the game experience, ruins the immersion and puts an adds arbitrary rules that have nothing to play the game like fucking points for killing bosses
>you've killed this boss here are points no other enemies give and is not related to your progress through the game
>you didn't git gud you merely did what you were expected by our behaviorist psychologist and other worthless faggots
>Everyone who got the game did the same and got the same
Before when you did something really hard or really tedious it was because YOU chose it, you wanted to challenge yourself not because some faggot to try to add random objectives to be able to say the game last for longer than it actually does
TLDR They are cancer
>>339818502
Ill check them to see if there is something I missed in the game.
I don't have the need to go pokemon on them.
>>339818502
I like them as well as trophies. Adds a nice metagame and can give people incentive to try things they might otherwise not do. I'm not a fan of multiplayer achievements (because eventually they'll be unobtainable) or ones that ask you to do ridiculous shit ("kill five enemies with five different weapons while in midair and while the in-game time is 2 PM" kind of asinine bullshit). They should cover all the difficulties and side content. Basically, platting/getting 1000/1000 in a game should mean you did and saw all of the content.
>>339818502
Stopped giving a fuck about them a long ass time ago because they keep offering games I'm not interested in fully complete, like, Goat Simulator for example. I went from 47% completion to 35% in a year because of this.
Cheevos used to unlock gamerpics and whatnot but not anymore it seems.
dumb and pointless. I can understand when achievements gave you some unlockables bot nowadays they are just e-peen points. They give them out like candy too "finish tutorial', "die once". So stupid. I'll never understand people who obsess over them.
> play match with full party of 4 people on your friends list
> have 985 gamerscore int that game forever
>>339818502
The Do's
>Different ending playthroughs for non-linear games achievements
>(2 or 3) Secret Areas
>In-game unlocks of certain items
>Game progress achievements
>Less obvious paths (e.g. chosing a reply in for example ME that would trigger a secret scene)
>Side mission completion
>easter egg achievements
>unconventional achievements (e.g. first death achievement in DkS)
The Don'ts
>Difficulty achievements (play game on x difficulty)
>Collectibles
>Upgrades
>Multiplayer achievements
>Playstyles (e.g. stealth through the whole x level)
>100% completion achievements
>Challenge achievements (e.g. kill x zombies with headshot from x weapon)
>Item collection achievements (especially in game with lots of items like an RPG and even moreso if it had micro-transactions)
>Social Media Achievements
>>339818502
>Playing Titanfall lately
>Look at achievement list
>"Pull Harder!" achievement
>"kill ejecting player using the plasma railgun"
>Sounds like a quick fun achievement
>mfw I've been trying for 2 days
>>339818502
Fine i guess. I dont go out of my way to get any with a few exceptions.
The one i really tried for was the "mile high club" for cod 4.
If I could pick between achievements and having cheat codes back, I'd pick codes
>>339832818
/thread
>>339818502
cheevos are mad gay holy shit
if i accomplish something in the game give me something for it other than an icon popping up and a little ding noise
>>339818502
I gave up on going after achievements after playing Mass Effect 1.
A majority of them were "play a majority of the game with a human Allie" and they had an achievement for each race.
That means playing the game 6 times. Not to mention all the bullshit ability achievements. FUCK THAT i said.
>>339818502
I don't care for them. They're literally made to bloat a game for ocd completionists.
I don't need a pop up and some dumb badge showing that I beat dark souls II without taking damage, killing all bosses, melee only, ng6+ without dying in an sl1 run.
Aesthetic junk behind achievements is fine, anything that directly affects gameplay though is bad.
The worst form of achievements was fucking WoW. Although not directly restricted by the game, but raid groups asking for achievements as proof is cancer. Even though you're more competent with many more years of experience vs the dumbfuck who just started 2 months ago and died 10 secs into the encounter and got carried in a 25 man for the achievement gets the spot over you.
I used to be real into them but I got burnt out. Maybe I'll get into again someday. Got dozens of games with just an achievement or two left.
>Playing GTA Vice City on PS4
>Have done everything for 100% except stunt jumps
>At the end of all the stunt jumps, I have 35/36 done
>Very certain which one didn't register, but no matter how many times I do it I never get the message saying I did it
>>339822531
It only took me about 40 tries
