>Seven months later, Valve’s Steam Machines look dead in the water
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2016/06/its-time-to-declare-valves-steam-machines-doa/
>As part of an update on new Steam Controller functions, Valve announced that it has sold over 500,000 Steam Controllers since the early November launch. A Valve representative confirmed to Ars that this number includes the controllers that are packaged with every branded Steam Machine sold through Valve's hardware partners.
>Put it together, and you find that there have been less than half a million Steam Machines sold over a span of more than half a year. The real number could potentially be much lower when you consider curious Windows gamers who bought a Steam Controller and SteamOS players who bought additional controllers. While the 500,000 number doesn't necessarily include people who decided to download and install SteamOS on their own PCs (or all sales of Valve's $50 Steam Link streaming box), it probably serves as a good ceiling for the wider SteamOS market at this point.
What went wrong?
>>339737581
seems like it reached expectaion
>>339737581
Meh, was worth a shot but who didn't see this coming?
They didn't have a franchise exclusive to make console fanboys flock to it.
They didn't have the specs to make power users flock to it.
They didn't have the marketing to get any particular group interested.
It was made for nobody in particular, so nobody bought it.
I didn't even know it came out
>>339738052
>It was made for nobody in particular
Not really. Steam machines + steam OS + steam controller were made for people who wanted to play PC vidya on their couch in a living room.
It needed a gimmick to make it stand out. It needed HL3. It didn't get HL3. It didn't sell.
>>339738247
yeah, but that's why they made the steam link.
steam machines were overkill and people cou7ld have easily just build a new pc for their living rooom
They could have sold millions if they developed half life 3 and sold it as an exclusive
>>339737581
They tried selling consoles to the pc audience
They tried selling pcs to the console audience
>>339738052
Or, it could be that it had no games. The Linux catalogue of games on Steam is insanely small, and all you have are a handful of indies, and a very small amount of AAA games.
And for couchfags, such as myself, I'm not bucking down all that cash for no games. And I'm not going to bother with dealing with two machines (streaming from a Windows PC to Steamlink or a Steambox) either.
I really don't know who the Steam Machines push was for. The only thing that seems to be worth it might be the Steam Controller, because I find it really valuable to just be able to plug that shit in, and use community layouts to play games that were never intended to be played with a controller. And IMO, the vast majority of games do not require the precision of a keyboard & mouse, so I like the controller letting me cozy the fuck up with minimal effort.
Wasnt even entirely sure that this shit launched.
They didnt market it at all.
>>339738379
>yeah, but that's why they made the steam link.
There are people with shitty hardware who would gain nothing from steam link and might have wanted a semi-decent steam OS "console". Valve should've marketed harder. And yeah, some exclusives could've helped.
>>339737581
Steam Machines were created because Gabe wanted to give Microsoft the middle finger for putting in the Windows Store
Now he's lost his company millions of dollars and valuable development time chasing this shitty meme
>buying an overpriced pc "console" when you could build your own for literally half the price
Steam Machines literally only existed to trap lazy and/or retarded children into buying them.
I honestly see no fucking point unless you want a small computer with no software.
>>339737581
>What went wrong?
They didn't do jack shit with it and made it confusing for your average consumer. If the average consumer even knew it existed in the first place.
My main platform is PC and even I don't know what the fuck a Steam Machine is suppose to be.
>>339738052
>>339738702
>>339738718
>marketing
Unfortunately, valve has policy along the lines of "We don't need to spend a lot of money on marketing. If people like the product, we hope that speaks volumes and will generate sales on its own."
>>339738723
>millions of dollars
The hats will fix that.
>>339737581
They are not worth the price, and you get zero benefits versus building your own
other than that, this is a new shilling article promoting e3
>>339738551
>>339738275
Valve went the laziest route possible. They have no interest in making games anymore.
Was this junk any good?
>>339738723
>Now he's lost his company millions of dollars
Yeah, but hats, CSGO and Dota crates will fix it.
And how disgusting is that?
>people saying "it"
You realise there were many Steam Machines from many hardware manufacturers, none of which were made by Valve?
I'm not surprised they aren't selling, most of them are fucking expensive for very mediocre hardware.
>>339738894
That might work with a videogame, but not really with hardware like that.
Its a big investment so people need to be convinced.
>>339738894
> If people like the product, we hope that speaks volumes and will generate sales on its own
That makes sense, fuck marketing. Make a good product instead, but they didn't make a good product or give users any kind of real incentive to move to Steam OS.
The fucking elephant in the room Half-Life 3 would have been the only way to make people spend hundreds on a PC/Console hybrid and their OS.
>>339738657
>The Linux catalogue of games on Steam is insanely small
http://store.steampowered.com/search/?os=linux
>4495 results
>>339739014
Apparently it was great if you had everything hardwired in your house. Not much noticeable input lag at all (you can actually turn the stats on to check)
>>339737581
they won't look so dead when the next microsoft and sony consoles are literally upgradable pcs
>>339738247
this is fucking stupid, you can just hook your pc to your TV from any other room already, only an imbecile wouldn't be able to
>>339739271
>Valve
>Valve
>Indie
>Indie
>Indie
>Based Eurotruck
>Indie
>Indie
>Valve
Oh boy, look at all that vidya
>>339739014
I'd like to know this too. Also how is it better than a hdmi cable.
>>339737581
>What went wrong?
The fact that they were trying to sell something nobody ever wanted or asked for.
Any idea how this thng compares to an Xbox controller?
>>339739681
It's really fucking nice and better on PC since you don't need to reach over for a mouse.
It doesn't compare to xbox controller, it compares to only other pc viable controller: the ds4.
DS4 is for people who don't want to spend money on steam controller.
>>339739894
Or people who want to use a fucking d-pad
>>339739271
You forgot the Games filter, so it's also including shit like DLC and movies. So with that filter on, Linux has 2318 results. Mac has 3472. And Windows has 9134.
I'm not on a Linux machine at-the-moment, but I'm on my Mac. And even just playing on the Mac, I've lost access to 240 of the Windows-only games that I own. It's probably lose even more on Linux.
That's huge to me, and I don't like losing access to all those games. And it's part of the reason SteamOS/Steamboxen are kinda useless to me.
>>339739894
I'm currently using a wired Xbox controller for games like GTA V.
>>339739681
>idiotic gimmicky garbage vs. one of the best controllers ever built
No reason to use that dogshit over a DS4 or 360/bonepad.
>>339739494
Second
>>339738657
You're right actually. If you can't run the apex of normie vidya like gta v on it, you might as well put a bullet in it
>>339739894
except the DS4 is far more useful than that piece of shit steam controller
>>339739494
>TV and desktop PC in different rooms
>>339738247
Which is nobody.
The pc guy will just hook up a tv screen and use bigmode.
the console guy will just stick to his console.
>steam OS is a flop
>steam machine is a flop
>steam controller is a flop
Guess what's next?
>>339740563
PSVR will save us.
>>339739894
Except the steam controller is more expansive than the DS4 lel.
>>339740604
All VR will be bad.
Pretty sure Valve is going to be just fine with all that hat cash. Too bad the resources weren't spent on something else. something like fucking video games.
>>339740158
is..is there a set of those?
>>339737581
If there's a steam machine that launches with a 980ti at $600 I think it could be saved. I've been deciding whether to get one of these or build a PC.
We still have E3 and I think these were experimental batches. Once you see really good builds at a decent price then things will change.
If you remember they launched these things with a 750 ti
>>339740604
Running on what? The Neo? That means you'll be spending around $900 for your VR experience
>>339737581
>What went wrong?
Nothing
Its just an insurance policy in the event of Microsoft closing up windows.
Unless that actually happens it'll just get gently pushed without too effort.
>>339741131
The PSVR will have support, unlike all the other pieces of shit out already.
>>339740604
Wrong.
While you're heading in the right direction, as Sony is a Japanese company, the answer is that based Japan will save us. First they saved us from the video game crash, and now they're going to save VR with catgirls.
>>339741375
You forgot about Summer Lessons.
>>339740934
I wish
>>339739165
How's the Syber Vapor Core? It's the only series that looks better than the alpha.
>>339741213
>sony platform
>having support
Are you a comedian?
>>339737581
Allowing third parties to sell a device with radically different hardware inside was a recipe for disaster.
Each company would mention harddrives and USB versions, but when it came time to mention the actual graphics card version, you had to search endlessly.
>>339741876
It has Japanese support. That's all that matters.
>>339741213
PS4 cannot run decent VR. Specs are just too weak. Best you can hope for is Superhot-tier graphics at sub 30. Neo might be able to but then you have to pay.
>>339737581
They were put together by Chinese knock off tier names and designs certainly looked like so. The hardware specs and prices are not different than Best Buy prebuilts. Just like their games, Valve has no quality assurance, quality control, or any sense of production value.
>>339737581
-Overpriced
-No hardware conformity
These needed to be PCs with console form factors and console accessibility, they needed to conform to simple, easy to understand standards, and yet Valve let everyone from MadCatz to Zotac make their own machine with their own standards of quality, price and hardware.
So rather than having a line of easy to use PCs that could run Steam games reliably, you ended up with 150 different plastic shitboxes with no quality control that ranged anywhere from $300 to $3000 and might contain an i7 or a Pentium 4 or a fucking gerbil running in a wheel.
They combined the worst elements of prebuilts with the new problem of everything melting because they tried to jam their shitty hardware into a plastic cube.
Valve are a fucking joke and I don't want them to be successful.
>>339739014
When I first got it, Rocket League was near unplayable and RE4 had some weird ass sound delay.
Haven't checked with any of the updates since yet.
>>339738247
The problem is that there are too many other options. You can stream using Steamlink or something similar, or just build your own HTPC for downstairs. Keep in mind Steam PC's weren't even great for couch gaming, SteamOS/Steam on Linux is STILL shit with bluetooth controllers. My bluetooth controler works with non-Steam Linux games but not with SteamOS despite support being promised in fucking January.
>>339740563
>>339740930
>>339741375
Vive is the best VR by a huge margin and Japan is already supporting it in the ways that matter.
Console VR is a gimmick and Oculus is cancer.
They're just prebuilt PCs. Why do people pay such close attention to their sales numbers?
>>339738052
Playing PC in the living room TV is, for the part, a meme.
Just like the legendary $350 "console killer" rig.
They are both possible. They are both talked about and used as counter arguments. But no one actually does them.
>>339742615
They were promised as an alternative to consoles but as usual anything even tangentially related to Linux falls flat on it's face.
>>339742326
I just don't think there dead yet. The first batch are but just like the Xbox One there's gonna be a better and worth buying steam machine.
Only if Microsoft launched one.
>>339740280
>He doesn't have hdmi wall ports
So pleb it hurts
>>339742129
Except VR games actually have to be well-optimized which eliminates like 90% of jap devs already.
no reason for console users to care
no reason for pc users to care other than the dumbest of steamdrones
not to mention, anything other than windows for one makes it virtually useless.
>>339742986
Except you can't have a drop over 50 feet in length.
>>339743161
How big is your house?
>>339742964
The only way to save Steam Machines and SteamOS would be for Valve to reign in the different manufacturers and demand a very clear standard of performance and quality and then set specific price points.
Valve won't do that though, because that would require them to actually do work rather than farming out all of their projects to third parties and taking a cut while they sit on their fat, lazy asses eating M&Ms from vending machines and scratching their fat lazy asses while piles of unused funds accumulate in Gaben's Scrooge McDuck-esque vault.
>>339742563
In what ways is Japan supporting the Vive, anonafriend? And what does VR mean to Japan in general?
>people would rather use non-free software
>>339743242
I'm not the original person, but 50 feet is fucking nothing if you are going through walls.
>>339737581
>Make what is effectively a standard gaming PC and sell it as a console
>With standard PC parts
>Running Windows or Linux (SteamOs)
>At a price point starting at $100 above the competition
What could Valve have done to fix this?
There wasn't a Steam Machine for the average consumer. Something around $199-$249. The Steam machine for that price should at least be able to run all games at average settings, so obviously it should have been sold at a loss.
Steam Link was useless to the average consumer who has a prebuilt and it can't handle trying to stream games.
Overall, it wasn't planned very well.
>>339743345
Gaming is virtually incompatible with free software aside from 90's DOS games that released the source code.
>>339743345
>Not getting a free Windows 8.1 included with your laptop
>Not upgrading to Windows 10 for free
>>339737581
WOW
REALLY
WHOA
I'M SHOCKED
WHO COULD HAVE SEE THIS COMING
WOW
UNBELIEVABLE
WOW
WOW
>>339743810
>laptop
>>339743332
Three words:
Anime porn games
>>339743262
True. I'm hopeful the new Xbox will be open source so we could run steam/GOG/origin/. That's actually what the Xbox was built for it was a living room PC. Valve and Microsoft have an interesting relationship.
How the fuck did anyone at Valve not realize that Steam Machines would be an instant failure.
Consolefags are lazy and stupid, they just want something that werks.
Steam Machines require you to take time and look up the parts that are in each individual machine and estimate if what they're paying for is actually worth it. A consolefag isn't going to do that.
And a PC fag is going to do that, but they're going to research buy each individual part that they want and put it together themselves because they're not completely incompetent.
Plus its forced to use linux, thats a huge amount of games you will never ever play. I imagine its possible to install windows, but I don't think anyone is dumb enough to waste the money to find out.
Honestly it appeals to no one. They tried to make something for a market that doesn't exist.
>>339743810
>OEM
>free
You fully paid for it, I assure you.
>>339743920
>spending over $800 to jack off
>>339738247
>PC vidya on their couch in a living room.
Most PC Vidya requires KB+M and the controller is no substitute.
Steam machines could only work if they penetrated the console market directly and competed with Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo
Instead it's a glorified Ouya
>>339742986
How are you gonna control it?
>>339744121
>jacking off to anime porn games
It's a genre of comedy and sim-style gameplay you fucking loser.
>>339743920
I hope cuddling and petting soft fluffy catgirls and foxgirls becomes a thing.
I also feel stupid for not making anime porn games my first and default assumption about why Japan was interested in VR in a big way.
>>339743580
>Steam Link was useless to the average consumer who has a prebuilt and it can't handle trying to stream games.
I would hope that the average PC gamer knows enough about computers to be able to distinguish an ethernet cable from an HDMI cable and connect a Steam Link to both their router and their TV.
Heck you don't even need the Ethernet connection since its wireless.
>>339739681
It's my go to controller now because it's wireless and just works. I had used a DS4 previously, which required DS4windows in the background with a wired connection.
Games like Papers Please play way better with the controller and it's enjoyable to playplatformerswith it as well as casual fps.
>>339737581
>another ill-thought-out plan from Valve to make money from doing as little work as possible falls flat on it's face
What a shock.
They should stick to encouraging children to gamble, it's all they are good at.
>>339743810
>free
lol
>>339744439
Honestly I use an Xbox controller for pretty much everything on PC besides competitive shooters.
>>339743810
Stop fucking shilling this everywhere Microsoft.
>>339737581
I didn't have a market to begin with.
It was a dumb idea.
>>339744381
average PC gamer, sure
average consumer? completely different.
My father for instance needed help setting up an Amazon Fire Stick as it wasn't turning on. Not realizing that it needed the USB cord to turn on. Average consumer needs a "plug-in and Go!" type design, these steam physical products are not it.
>>339737581
I still don't even know what the fuck it is.
>>339738551
>half life 3 linux exclusive for VR
I think we found a way to crash the market and empty our wallets.
>>339738247
You can build a PC and put it in the living room. You don't need to over pay for a box.
>>339744381
When building a PC you wanna hook up to your PC how do you make it use wifi?
>>339744714
That add is solely there to tell people that the free period will end by then and if they try afterwards they'll have to pay 100 to 160 dollars. I'm not a micros hill but please, don't make yourself look retarded by posting something as if it's a shitty thing to do when they are just making people aware.
>>339739014
Nope! It only streams your desktop, doesn't use Steam OS. So you have to go into big picture mode on your desktop.
>>339744860
Do you seriously think anyone would spend $700 on a peripheral to play Half Life 3? Don't forget, it would necessitate Half Life 3 being, at best, a rail shooter.
>>339744832
It's a console that you can use as a pc and customize. You can change ram, gpu, and other shit. There are some limitations however as I don't think the power supply is changeable so you are going to be stuck with a certain wattage.
valve is a shitter company that has literally half assed everything they did in the last decade. dota 2, steam controller, steam machines, greenlight, you name it. the only reason they're still fine is because there are no generational resets like in the console space
they're still gonna go the way of the irrelevant eventually. it's just gonna take 20 years instead of 5. this company can't do anything right anymore. maybe if gabe dies and someone with a brain takes over, they'd have a chance
>>339737581
so...
any idea how much these things will be shot out for clearance? i wouldn't mind something that i can play older stuff on if im away from my computer, lord knows laptops are shit for gaming unless you spend 2k + on it
>>339744203
>Instead it's a glorified Ouya
How is Ouya doing, by the way?
The absolute most idiotic thing about the Steam Machine is it COMPLETELY goes against the projected future of the industry which is streaming. OnLive was 6 years too early and was laughed out of the industry, until Sony bought them. It is now 2016 and we have seen dozens of set-top streaming boxes, some made for gaming. The groundwork has already been laid for the demise of physical hardware. Xbox Live is no longer a divisive service between desktop and console, why? Sony has begun extensive testing and marketing of Playstation Now, why? Sony already has a streaming box in the Vita TV, PSNow uses a combination of Gaikai and OnLive technologies to make this possible. (If you haven't already noticed PlayStation Now uses the same letters as Playstation Network.)
The next Playstation and Xbox will be streaming boxes. It will be incredibility easy to market and sell these devices because of the name. Consumers have seen the Apple TV, Roku, Amazon Fire TV. If you told the average gamer that the next Xbox was basically an App Store or Google Play Store, where you buy the game but it is streamed from somewhere else, I have no doubt there would be any confusion or reluctance. That kind of device makes sense. This is where Valve fucked up big time. Instead of pushing the Steam Link to high heaven they have been touting the Steam Machine. Instead of getting ahead of Sony or Xbox for control of the living room, they are going to waste their time and let Apple come in and Nvidia gain ground before the big two come storming in.
>>339745171
officially dead
VR will go the same way.
Valve is betting on all wrong horses when it comes to hardware. And even software sometimes. Linux? Fucking Linux for gaming? Oh boy.
>>339745195
I see visions of Sony, Amazon or Microsoft buying Roku to further enhance their hold in this space. Someone is going to grab Uber too. Meanwhile Valve wasted time and money on a worthless OS instead of building a central streaming farm of computers to provide a beta service in tandem with a simple in-home streaming device. They instead partner with hardware companies and accomplishing nothing. They wanted these companies to do all the work, creating this lie and farce of an idea. The idea of the Steam Machine is 10 years out of date and even back then it would have been a hard sell.
The money is not in this confused physical box, the money is in the device that streams the content people want without the fuss or expense apparent to them up front. Get them in the door for $100, milk them for thousands. Sell the razor and make them buy the blades, that was Sony's philosophy starting with the first Playstation, something the PS3 got away from and took years to recover because of it. They already have the device covertly on the market for testing, while PS4 gamers use the service on the machine the platform was designed to replace. All testing, all planning ahead. Why do you think that Microsoft emphasized the universal experience so much with Windows 10? Because of streaming. Windows 10, Xbox Live, Vita TV and PSNow are Trojan horses. Intended to sneak into the lives of consumers and take control of how they experience their entertainment. The Steam machine is not a wooden horse but an actual rotting dead one. No sane person would bring that into their home.
>>339745171
Bankrupt a year ago, bought out by Razer of all things.
>>339745171
Razer bought them for the software, threw the hardware away.
>>339745287
Valve really messed up, people keep thinking there is some master plan here. That everything will make sense in due time. It won't, it will never make sense because it is stupid. The hardware isn't even strong enough to run their HTC VR. A Steam machine from any manufacturer will cost more than an average gaming PC just to run the VR. Try and sell your typical Xbox gamer on a $1,200 "gaming console" and explain it has worse specs than if your made your own computer. You can put Steam OS on your computer RIGHT NOW. But why would anyone do that? Why make a box that uses an OS that is designed to be a platform and experience similar streaming service and make it completely worthless? Why would anyone put that OS on their computer? For the novelty of it?
Think of all the wasted time and money. They pushed the wrong product. If they wake up tomorrow and start shilling the Link instead of the Machine they might actually have something worthwhile. But they instead created a false idea then let other hardware makers try to make sense of the tools that appear worthless. If I was Alienware or any other company I would feel taken. The Link itself was neglected to the point where even it cannot stand up to other streaming boxes. We now have a feature lacking streaming box and a broken idea that no company will touch. Two worthless boxes.
>>339745093
Half life has so much artifical hype that people would byt literally with their hearths before it even comes out, so I would bet some serious savings or lending to get it.
For example; people buying retail consoles for exclusives or macs for photoshop.
>>339745093
700 isn't a lot of money and everyone will have standard 4k gaming pc's soon which means they'll have a LOT of money to spend on junk since there will be no need to upgrade your PC.
>>339745168
Steam Link already on sale at Amazon
>>339745195
pstv
streaming
yeah, you don't have one of those do you?
you STILL need a memory card to download games to idiot. i'd love to have a streaming for vita since the good size memory cards are about 100 dollars too much
>>339737581
>A device that lets you stream games from your PC to your TV
>But your PC has to be able to run the game
Why not just play on the PC? Why not hook your PC up directly to the TV? Sure it can play Linux games, but there are no fucking Linux games.
Valve is stupid as shit and they deserve to fail. They didn't even bother advertising their retard boxes or pushing for Linux compatibility or emulation in first party games. They were so arrogant from having the PC monopoly that they thought their braindead loyalists would waste $1000 on these shitpieces.
Valve is just something I'm embarrassed to be associated with at this point.
>Swore they would never do DLC, then they embraced DLC, extremely unethical gambling for unusuals and decent items with the implementation of the grade system in crates, and p2w
>Gabe shows up at a conference looking like 500 pounds of rat shit and says he is "deeply sickened" by people who are proud they chose to be PC gamers
>Stopped making games and cut off their flagship series after a major plot twist
>Tricks thousands of content creators into making item designs for TF2 without telling them he only accepts hats, and only a few each year
>Sales went to shit after the competition disappeared
>Virtually never heard from, even when widespread account security concerns arise. Remember a month ago when everyone had half their games update at once and Valve refused to make a statement about whether something fishy was going on?
>>339745093
>yfw it will be an open world sandbox
>>339738551
literally NEVER going to happen.
EVER. it is fucking retarded to even think that people would buy it.
>>339745578
you're still in the denying phase uh?
>>339745037
Free or not upgrading to Windows 10 is not worth sacrificing your privacy for.
>>339745386
I don't think that's true anymore.
Half Life 3 is the new Duke Nukem Forever. HALF LIFE 3 CONFIRMED is an amusing little internet meme but only a fool is seriously expecting a "system seller".
That's if it ever even comes out at all. Gabe has flat out said they have no interest in Half Life anymore because you can't realistically shit it up with micro-transactions and get away with it.
>>339745168
This. Honestly this is why I wanted to get one. There's no new good PC games out there. If it can run Arma or DayZ then I'm fine with one.
>>339745532
Not everyone is going to drag their PC through rooms or floors just to play PC games on a TV. Thats who the Steam Link is for.
>>339745392
not link, i mean steamboxes
i want one dirt cheap, probably by black friday i would think
>Play on TV
>Screen tearing and jittering nonstop
I'd rather play a console game if that's the case, at least they're "optimized" for a TV screen.
>>339745776
anon, its better than my current PC which has tech from 2010 in it, haven't upgraded it since.
so im running a GTX 460 and 4GB of ram right now, ANYTHING is an upgrade
>>339745648
That isn't the nature of the fucking add though you cocksucker. Complain all you want about windows 10 but the fucking add is just a simple way of saying a new pay wall will be up that will prevent then from upgrading for free if they possibly want something like say direvtx12 qith it's multi gpu options. It's like posting an add saying evolve is giving away everything for free while you call them jewish and sneaky.
>>339737581
They had it coming. I'm actually happy this happened.
Who in their right mind thought that making 20 different Steam machines was a good idea? Wasn't the whole purpose of it to make PC gaming more appealing to console gamers? I would go and say that building a PC is easier than studying the specs of all the Steam machines and picking one.
Such an embarrassment.
>>339745647
No, I mean not even valve is stupid enough to lock one of their games behind exclusivity of anything beyond steam itself.
I wasn't saying that hl3 will never be released.
>>339737581
>have none of the exclusives a console would have
>have none of the power a PC would have
>runs in the plebiest OS ever
Wow who could've seen that coming?
>>339737581
Extremely overpriced PCs, it was a fucking retarded idea.
>>339737581
How did it fail when the PS4 succeeded?
>2000 games
>cheaper than a PS4 and more powerful
>has the best controller
>made by valve who are the most beloved developers on the planet
Compared to the no games PS4 that charges for online by Sony who has treated gaming as garbage for years. What happened?
>>339745287
Isn't there a rumor that valve is working on a streaming feature?
>>339747946
Isn't there a rumor that Valve is going to be more transparent and update their games, along with Steam?
Oh wait. They say that all the time and it never happens.
>>339747260
This is what happened.
Consolefag market
>no thanks, i already have a console
PCfag market
>no thanks, i already know how to set things up to play games on my TV
And those are just the hardcore part of each market. Since there was no marketing at all, it didn't reach many of the casuals.
>>339746015
How good would an Alienware alpha that runs on a 750ti 8gbs of ram and on an i3 processor?
It's just confusing because PC elitists call it a shit build yet others say it's decent.
I told you fuckers and i got railed by valvedrones.
I fucking told you that this project was utterly pointless and appealed to only a niche, yet drones kept telling me how it was "GOING TO DESTROY CONSOLES AND VALVE WOULD REIGN SUPREME!".
Well guess what? People are still playing on proper PCs. Consoles are still a thing and the steam machines are dead in the water.
You can now proceed to eat shit. You know who you are.
>>339748528
What would officially kill the steam machine is if they announced Steam on Xbox.
>>339737581
There only selling point was a $50 controller that looked weird and finicky and obviously could not replace a keyboard for traditionally PC only games (MMO, RTS, ASSFAGOTS)
>>339749179
They had a good product then copped out in the end and added a thumbstick.
Buying a Steam Machine is buying a prebuilt. If I was to buy a prebuilt, I would buy a prebuilt that runs the operating system with the considerably better and larger library of games. So, Steam Machines were never an option for me and I'm sure it's the same case for many
>>339747260
Wow this post has absolutely no bias at all
I have no doubt that someday a game called Half Life 3 will be released. The IP is worth millions just by itself and when Gabe dies of a stroke I'm sure whatever vice chairman of Valve will license or sell it. The thing is that it will likely have no one from the original development team, or at most a writer just so that they can say the story will be authentic. While reboots can certainly be great I have a hard time believing that it will feel like the Half-Life 2 episode 3 that people were expecting. Even if it's good it will likely have a ton of other shit thrown in it because what people expect in an FPS has changed greatly since 2007.
