>Steam Machines a flop
>Steam controller a flop
>SteamOS a flop
>VR a flop
>Dota dying
>CS:GO dying
>TF2 long dead
>Half Life 3 is NEVER coming out
What the fuck is going on in Bellevue?
They need to somehow go back to making fun singleplayer FPSs
A game with a daily player count of 500,000 is "dead"
>>339735963
You can't really monetize singleplayer games much.
they literally don't need to make games ever again because they have a monopoly on the PC games market
>>339735990
wow it's still that popular?
>>339735760
>Dota 2 dying
Dont they peak at 1 mil during weekend?
>>339736083
Nah, I'm kidding.
At it's lowest it actually is around 650,000. That's when all the kids are in school.
>>339736000
>Make game people like and want
>It sells lotsa copies
>You have made back more than you spent on making the game thus profit
>Onto the next project
Other developers don't have an issue with this, hell some keep on keeping on even after releasing financial flops. Valve just needs to get over their greed.
>>339735760
>flops
Even if you weren't lying they still wouldn't care: their model is to get you to use their store. The accessories are a means to that end, not a product in of itself.
This is why I refuse to support Nintendo or Sony or MS. How DARE they want to milk me for money.
all of their games should be free and never have DLC, ever.
>>339736197
Online games with gambling nets you way more money.
>>339735760
Steam controller sold half a million so far
Valve makes so much money on selling csgo keys alone. Not even including tf2 and dota. They can easily develop a fun single player FPS just for the hell of it
hopefully valve will make half life 3 entirely in goldsrc
>>339735760
No objection to first 4 points or the last one
>Most popular game on Steam is dying
>Second most popular game on Steam is dying
>Fourth most popular game on Steam is long dead
Try again
You forget one thing: Steam essentially has a 40% stake in all of PC gaming because of their monopoly. 40% of the revenue from almost any successful game goes straight into their pockets.
You know what's going on in Bellevue? Valve's raking in the money like never before.
>Valve has made over $1billion last year alone
>GTAV cost $265million to develop AND market
>Valve could literally fund 4 games the size of GTAV with the money they've made in 1 (one) year
>instead they're making... nothing
>absolutely nothing
>all they do is patch their existent games, and even there all the CSGO operation weapon skins/maps are player made, just like all the TF2 hats and maps and the dota 2 items
No, really, what ARE they doing in Bellevue?
>>339736807
That's what makes Valve so fucking disgusting. They are in the perfect position to make passion project games with no deadlines, no shareholders, no external publisher fucking them around. Instead they make zero risk mod sequels and hats.
They realized video games don't make as much money as the things based around video games, but they're not that great at the hardware.
>>339737518
Pretty much nothing. The open structure of Valve means no one is going to work on anything that takes significant effort.
They're also being sued by a tranny
>>339735760
Traffic is preventing them from getting to work on time to get their shit done.
>>339737773
>he still believes the blatant PR lies of valve's "open structure" from that "leaked" valve guidebook
lmao
>>339735760
>>Dota dying
Said no one with a common sense
>>339735760
Guys, come on. It's pretty obvious that HL3 is being worked on. Either that or L4D3. Valve isn't THAT far gone yet to be doing literally nothing.
>>339737610
I would guess they actually reinvest less than 10% of their earnings and keep the rest for themselves to live the big life.
>>339735760
TF2 has a huge userbase, especially considering its age. And Valve don't care how shitty a community gets, as long as they keep raking in the key and hat money.
Still, not making a single new game since forever is ridiculous, they pour money into risky shit like steam controller, but refuse to make Half Life 3 which would have sold gangbusters if released 5 years ago.
>>339737894
>polygon is the only source
Doubt.jpg
>>339737518
>over $1billion last year alone
This is an insanely high number, and valve isn't publicly traded, so they have no obligation to release any numbers, so you're probably talking out of your ass.
>be a valve employ
>8 am need to get to work
>board my private plane flown by Harrison Ford
>mid flight i realise i need inspiration for my new game idea
>fly to the Bahamas
>Drink a coctail on the bitch while a nice bitch sucks my dick
>oh shit i will be late for work
>arrive at 3 pm
>time to work
>repaint a dota 2 hat into a red color
>it has been a productive day today
>Dota dying
>CS:GO dying
>TF2 long dead
lol fuck off
>>339735760
>dying
>>339738598
The fact that Valve isn't publicly traded should make people suspicious. I mean, if you've got a successful company, you want to float it on the open market to really make the big bucks. Google and Facebook were bit entities compared to now before their IPO.
But once you make a company public, you've got to reveal your finances, and you've got to be accountable to your shareholders.
So that makes me wonder, what exactly does Valve have to hide? The fanboys excuse of "Gabe is trying to save gaming and shareholders would hold him back from this mission" doesn't wash anymore considering we know very well now from experience that Valve is only motivated by greed (like pretty much every company).
>>339738598
$221mil revenue from CSGO, $238mil revenue from Dota 2. That's $459mil from 2 of their games alone.
Now add 40% of every game sold on steam and it's not that big of a number.
>>339738284
They have Source 2, they are making VR stuff.
"nothing" here means "things I'm not interested in or don't even know about"
>>339735760
You really think someone would do that, just go on the internet and tell lies?
>>339735760
>Steam Machines a flop
Definitely
>Steam controller a flop
Nope
>SteamOS a flop
Debatable
>VR a flop
Nope.
>Dota dying
Source?
>CS:GO dying
Not at all, stronger than ever.
>TF2 long dead
Nope, still top 10 most played on Steam and competitive matchmaking is coming soon.
>Half Life 3 is NEVER coming out
That's for sure.
Valvdrones will defend this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9RjDRLBWio
>>339738897
Being public or private doesn't change the fact that the main goal of any company is to make money.
>>339736083
If this is OP, this post means you made a statement about player counts without even checking the actual player numbers or Steam stats.
Bravo.
>>339735760
Go back to one of the hundred memewatch threads blizzcuck
>>339737610
That fucking picture haha.
>I got work ta do!
>>339735760
Valve is making more money sitting on their ass then we could even comprehend but sure
>ARG VALVE IS DO NUFFIN
>>339738735
>private plane flown by Harrison Ford
>Doesn't crash
>>339739114
>Source?
Of course
>>339739114
>VR a flop
>Nope.
What is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
Opinions aren't facts.
>>339735760
when you're shitting gold you can afford to try some unconventional stuff
>>339736807
>>339737610
>yfw CD Projekt Red becomes the same
>GOG, selling someone else's games
>hats = Witcher DLCs
>yfw CD Projekt Red literally has no reason to develop Cyberpunk 2077
>>339735760
>Dota dying
>CS:GO dying
I don't like Valve anymore but come on.
>>339739694
Reality is relative.
>>339738735
>>Drink a coctail on the bitch while a nice bitch sucks my dick
not
>Drink a cocktail on the bitch while a nice beach sucks my dick
>>339739549
No, it's Source 2.
>>339739757
>>339739940
aaaand scene
>>339739927
Quick question about Vulkan on Dota 2, Will it activate automatically? What do I need to do to run it?
>>339739114
>every VR game is a tech demo for $20
I'd say as of now, it's in a very bad position and remains very niche for games where you're already sitting down ie racing, flying, etc
>>339739940
wtf
once they made you buy skins that were previously fan made and free they never have to make a game again.
why
>>339739940
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>GIVE ME MONEY
> IM TRANS GIVE ME MONEY
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>339737610
jesus that picture is gold
>>339740218
Better google it, the "DLC" tab has Vulkan support and so far everything in there was installing by itself, except workshop tools.
>>339739940
Here she's literally begging for money, with Valve I just want to play a fun game but they just sit there on the microtransaction money train.
>>339740743
sorry, he*
>>339739189
Way to miss the point of his post.
>motivated by greed
>going public would make them more money
>but they're still private
>can't be because they want to be free creatively because of point 1
>so why stay private?
The flaw with his thinking is that we'll never have access to internal info unless a leaker comes along. Never mind that the only reason to go straight to shady practices as the explanation is that that is expected of companies.
>>339740218
>install vulkan dlc in steam
>add -vulkan to startup properties
>PROFIT
>>339741990
what does it do though? does it make dota run better? look better?
>>339741990
oh you need to put -vulkan in startup? thanks anon
>>339735760
>Dota dying
690´000 current players
>CS dying
530´000 current players
You're talking a lot of shit kid.
>>339737195
>monopoly
>>339739940
holy shit I'm trying to be open-minded but does EVERY ONE of these trans/female/sjw "indie devs" must be such an obnoxious cunt?
>>339742862
Hey australia your commas are upside down.
>>339735760
Still making 30% off of every game sold steam
>>339739819
They will in time if gog gets big enough
It's won't though since drm is loved by aaa publishers
Who else is ready for Half-Life 3 to be teased during Sony's E3?
>>339744171
A PS exclusive? Ayy.
> dota is dying
> csgo is dying
Stop making me laugh
They have infinite money, so they tried to make progress in gaming technology, invested into VR and created the best VR hardware on market, but people don't want progress.
They tried to give peasants more options and better controllers so they won't suck compared to PCs, but I guess console players just don't want that.
They tried to push their games on open platform to counter microsoft being more and more jewish, but people don't care about that either.
They are developing game engine that is free to use for game developers, open api and physics engine.
They ARE doing something, people just don't want cool stuff it seems.
I don't know. They are just kicking back raking in tons of cash for providing a massive digital distribution platform.
Valve makes more money on TF2 and CSGO keys in one day then you will make in your entire life.
Think about that.
>>339744932
I'm mad now what?
>>339735760
>Steam Machines a flop
Literally a PC nothing more.
>Steam controller a flop
I like it.
>SteamOS a flop
Linux please.
>VR a flop
I love my Vive.
>Dota dying
MOBA trash.
>CS:GO dying
Nope, it's fun.
>TF2 long dead
Agree.
>Half Life 3 is NEVER coming out
I still believe.
They need to rip off another old mod.
>>339744994
>VR a flop
Like how DVDs were a flop the first month they came to market? Give that shit some time, yo. I'm not saying VR will be as popular as dvd players, I'm just saying that shit just came out. Give it a little time.
>>339735760
They replaced their devs with marketing staff and then failed to innovate for 5 years
>>339745167
>fact
'well to me'
>fact
'well to mee'
>fact
'well to me'
>>339737610
>no deadlines
And there's the problem
>>339738741
90% of the people who play dota aren't white or don't speak english
>>339745539
Cite your source.
>>339735760
>Steam Machines a flop
tru
>Steam controller a flop
not really
>SteamOS a flop
I still have my hopes up for the final release
>VR a flop
Hell no, just very expensive (for now)
>Dota dying
what
>CS:GO dying
what
>TF2 long dead
They make $1 million every week just from TF2 key sales alone. Also it averages 50k players and there's a big update coming with game optimalisation and matchmaking
>Half Life 3 NEVER coming out
Who cares?
>>339745539
And?
>>339745325
>failed to innovate for 5 years
>most innovative vr on market
>most innovative controller in 20 years
>tried to innovate consoles
>probably have some innovative tech in their engine and rubikon
>>339738897
I don't think it's a matter of valve hiding something, they just don't want shareholders interfering with the way they run the company
>>339745924
jajajajajajajajaja
>steam controller a flop
>a niche experimental alternative to a well established and deeply entrenched design moves over half a million units
would you call any given fightpad a flop?
or were you just expecting it to suddenly overtake xbox controllers in terms of marketshare?
either option sounds pretty stupid..
.
>>339735760
>Half life 3 is NEVER coming out
Yes it is anon, they just need to finishtightening up the graphics on level 3
I searched for ranked captains mode game and random draft game for 99:99 minutes and then the dota coordinator started malfunctioning and the game crashed. Dota extremely popular with 3rd worlders but its dead in 1st world countries and anyone who says otherwise is just a drone.
>>339738735
>board my private plane flown by Harrison Ford
ain't that nigga still lookin' for his family or something?
>>339739940
holy shit notch is chill as fuck
>not taking the b8 no matter how much she wanted him to
>>339743019
just remember that most of the people who benefit from sjw shit aren't these obnoxious attention whores but just regular people trying to keep their heads down
>>339746396
>were you just expecting it to suddenly overtake xbox controllers
not that anon, but I did
the controller is literally better in every single way, I guess people are just that stupid
>>339746981
>she
also do you really think that was bait?
>>339735760
To be fair the first four weren't that big of an investment. Valve is all about innovative shit, and innovative shit tends to fail. Their profitable projects can support hundreds of such failures.
>>339747132
>she
lol
I didn't mean b8 like implying >she was trolling, but b8 as in he could have easily bitten and looked bad too
they're thanking they're lucky star that they made steam so they can just sit back and make retail bux for ever
I gave up on HL3 years ago.
>>339735760
>Steam Machines a flop
it was always going to be a very slow build thing, but you're right that for the moment it's looking like a huge failure - BECAUSE what it's really all been about has been pushing Linux adoption, and even Valve themselves seems to have given up on that. which is a tragedy.
>Steam controller a flop
yeah this one was always a joke.
>SteamOS a flop
eh, it's just Linux with Big Picture as the GUI. as always, what's needed is software support... hopefully Valve will get back to that eventually (their next game? the first Source 2 game?)
>VR a flop
LOL WRONG. I know /v/ loves this meme, and the mods are enforcing it, but you're wrong and you know it. VR has truly finally arrived.
>Dota dying
>CS:GO dying
who gives a fuck
>TF2 long dead
yeah but I still play it
>Half Life 3 is NEVER coming out
nah, it'll be soon-ish. like maybe in a couple weeks, definitely within a couple years.
>>339737610
They do have passion projects, just not in the form of games. What is their own os/controller if not a passion project? That's definitely not something stellar like hats.
>>339735760
Over half of those > are not true.
>>339747168
If memory serves correctly cod1 wasn't bad, in face a lot of the CoD campaigns aren't terrible.
>>339743019
Yes
>>339735760
Bellevue is microsoft territory.
Valve only lives because the stuff they do does not exist in the physical world but rather in cyberspace.
They are literally like an indian reservation with a casino in it which is on land which isn't really theres though they think it is. They work in a Microsoft building for fucks sake.
>>339738897
I think they can just afford to live the good life without having shareholders hanging over their shoulder all the time
>>339736000
But do they have to?! What the fuck is the point of all this other shit that is raking them in millions. I thought this studio liked to do new things.
I am really hoping L4D3 comes this year, because god damn Valve has just been doing fucking nothing.
>>339739114
>competitive match making coming soon
only took 9 years
>>339745701
My ass.
>>339737518
Steamos steam machine steam controller, source 2, an entirely new physics engine, port of csgo on source 2, some vr stuff, and hl3. Hard to find a company that does more stuff than valve actually
>>339735760
A guy standing next to the "RECORD PROFITS" button, ready to push it tomorrow for the steam sale.
>>339736807
But they won't, because that would probably cost them more time and money than just doing nothing.
>>339747336
tfw I'm still waiting
>>339744721
>open platform
But Steam makes it a closed platform. How is it an open platform when I still need to use restrictive, proprietary DRM like I'm using a console?
>>339739819
>hats = Witcher DLCs
Yah, what a great comparison. Totally the same value, anon.
>>339750959
Ideally there wouldn't be DLC at all, you'd have gotten a complete game in the first place with all the "expansion" content they had planned before the base game even had a release date.
Next year,during this time,people will know as much about HL3 as they do right now.
And the year after that..
And a year following that one...
And also a year after those three...
And 5 years from that point,too...
And another 5 years after that...
And...
>>339750861
you are not restricted to steam as your games launcher
i.e. it is an open platform
not like you are using a console
>>339742916
You wanna play on Origin?
>>339747462
Most people just aren't going to want to switch to Linux cause they don't want to learn something new.
I only use Linux for C personally, just cause I'm used to Windows and don't want to make the switch.Linux us definitely better though.
>>339745539
100% of your comment is a strawman and posted by a retard
>>339745539
What's your point?
>>339739114
Based on TI6 or whatever number it is compendium $$$ it looks like Dota is doing fine. Personally I stopped playing daily but will be watching TI6.
>>339746645
If they buy hats why should the industry care they aren't white?
>>339735760
>Steam Machines a flop
Wow, I had completely forgotten those were even a thing.
>>339739114
Gee I wonder why Valve is suddenly so interested in competitive mode for TF2...
>>339735760
Steam machines, steamOS, linux support are backup plans for in case microsoft goes full retard with windows.
>>339753657
Because it worked in DotA and CS, now when you think about it DotA has roles and CS is a shooter, so the next logical step is to give a ranking system to a shooter with roles.
>>339736000
>Make singleplayer FPS game
>Add a section of the game with procedurally generated content, daily leaderboards, and market it to twitch streamers
>
twitch autism could fuel it until the stars burn out if there's an endless challenge mode
>>339735760
>And meanwhile their online distribution platform is bringing in truckloads of money every day with no end in sight
lol
