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Rainbow Six Siege Shills BTFO
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https://support.ubi.com/en-GB/faqs/000025116/Starter-Edition-FAQ

>What content is not available?
>Since the Starter Edition is the full game, you have access to all of its content. However, Operators will require more grinding to unlock than is required in the Standard Edition.
>Since the Starter Edition is the full game

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHHHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
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fucking funny
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So you're paying less but it takes way longer to unlock things?
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>>339726175
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>>339726761
It's time VS money and the difference is HUGE
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This seems fine
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Who the fuck comes up with this shit? Its literally experimenting shitty payment schemes!
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>>339726175
it's cheaper and it tells you things will take longer. how is this btfo?
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>>339726931
People paid $60 for this piece of shit.
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>>339726961
>piece of shit

I see you haven't played it
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>>339726961

>piece of shit

Its the best FPS in the last 10 years.
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>>339726931
Its testing consumer patients. The easy way out would be to buy the shitty Season Pass,
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>>339727053
>>339727083
No MP only game is worth $60

See also: Battlefront
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>>339727053
>>339727083
>paying this much for mp only
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>>339727146
Well now it's worth $15, so what's the problem?
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>>339727146
true, though if i play it for 100 hours then i believe it is worth it
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>>339726175
>the next crash cant come any sooner
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>>339727146

Im playing Siege since closed alpha.
So far 300 hours in it for $60 and still far from getting bored of it.

I dont even remember the last game i spent 100 hours in.

Witcher 3 is the closest with 80h.
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>>339727146
>this one MP only game isn't worth $60 in my opinion so I'll argue it a fact that not a single MP only game is worth that price even though it's subjective
-you
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Thought it was a good deal at first because I only play terrorist hunt anyway which usually locks out half the operators. Played around 50 hours in the open beta and had a blast but I'm still on the fence about the price desu.
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>Uplay
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>>339727606

Both uplay and origin are already better tham steam

Nce try valvedrone
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>>339727721
Origin maybe but not UPLAY
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>>339726175
I'm glad more people will be willing to try it.
It's a really good FPS and it's a massive surprise Ubisoft ever managed to make it, I guess they managed to fuck up the price, release and new content.
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>buy R6 cheap
>spend a little extra money to buy renown boosters and grind your way to success
I don't see the problem senpai
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>>339726175
I don't see what's so funny about that
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>>339727894
>Playing this CoD piece of shit when I could enjoy based Overwatch

no thanks
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>>339727597
Only buy it for the 5v5.
Terrorist Hunt is like an additional fun mode to play while waiting for others to finish a match
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>>339727146
Your loss anon, it's a great game, even on consoles all the teams are using headsets. Says a lot about the level of teamwork the game asks, and says a lot that people rise to it. Within a few hours I was in a full party of speaking players, having tacticool matches and then spamming riot shields after.
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>>339727721
>>339727804
>Publisher exclusives
They'll always be shit.
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>>339726175

NEVER FORGET
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZonRWlSy7k
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Honestly, this seems like a pretty good idea. I'm never going to pay full price for a fucking MP game again, and I picked up Siege on the cheap for 30 bucks at launch because they were bundling keys with gfx cards.

I'd be far more willing to spend 10-20 bucks to buy into a version of the game where unlocks take a little longer, over spending 60 bucks new, or even worse, playing F2P shit with 12 year olds. It's literally the best of both worlds, paywall to keep the shitters out, cheap to increase the number of people playing.
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>>339728009
Is Overwatch really any good? What are its strengths and weaknesses?
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>>339728153
>There are people who actually wanted this trash
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>>339728057
Alright well thats saved me giving $15 to Ubisoft. I revisit the game when there's a free weekend or something.
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>>339728280
>strengths
waifus

>weaknesses
everything else
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>>339728280
It's not very good. It's a fun little class based shooter that's insanely easy with a skill ceiling on par with CoD. The problem with it is that the maps are tiny, and a round take a couple of minutes. There's no time for complex thought, you just ram the enemy as a death ball and whoever gets more kills wins.
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>>339727146
>I-it's multi only it's not worth it

I literally payed 35 for it on G2A along with anyone else who isn't a total retard. Honestly one of the best multiplayer shooters in years.

A good and well rounded multiplayer component is worth 3 times as much as a well made campaign which is finished after 1 month maximum.
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>>339728153
but I want to forget it was edgy, it was a cinematic corridor, it was press X to wife.
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>>339727721
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>>339728057
>can't play terrorist hunt offline
FUCKING UBISOFT
U
C
K
I
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G
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>>339728297
>press square to kiss wife
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>>339728153

At least they used the door closing technology in the Division. All wasnt lost.
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>>339727894
>Buy game
>Buy more overpriced shit to not have to grind to unlock shit

Then why not buy the standard edition you shitbag
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>>339728280
pros:
some classes can be fun

cons:
chokepoints on maps (hanamura is the worst offender)
boring characters, only junkrat is funny
content seems lacking, too few and generally not so good maps
some casualizing abilities (auto aim, wallhack)
and just gets old way too fast
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>>339727053
I've played it and it's shit.

SWAT 4 is still superior in every way.
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>>339727053
>Hit detection
>Animations
>Lag
>Ranked wasn't even at launch
>Awful balance for 3 months

Yeah, 60 euro and season pass.
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>>339727053
Even R6 Vegas 2 is better, not to mention Ghost Recon and SWAT 4.
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>ubisoft games
>2016

Wow I thought the game would be good what the fuck?!?
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>>339729220
>Even R6 Vegas 2 is better
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>>339729220
those are great, but they're dinosaurs
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>>339726175
>official ubisoft FAQ actually uses the word "grind"
Did no one check to see if there was any stigma behind that word, or are they seriously incapable of elaborating?
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>>339727894
>he needed to use boosters
Wow fag just play the game and get kills. It doesn't even take very long to unlock everybody.
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>>339729395
so? they are still better.
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>>339729332
nice counter arguments.
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>>339729220
>even R6V2 is better, not to mention ghost recon and swat 4.
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>>339726175
people will still buy the 70$ edition somehow
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>>339729103
>hit detection
has been improved upon with every patch
>animations
Still sketchy, I admit
>Lag
Must be your connection
>Ranked wasn't even at launch
BF4 didn't even work at launch and look at it now

>>339729534
If you think so then you should definitely play them instead of Siege.
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>people still play SWAT4 years after
>jewbisoft is trying to put their shit game on a life support
>The Division threads are all gone
>Siege will soon follow
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>>339727053

I have.

I wanted a >>RAINBOW SIX<<< game

not a fucking Counterstrike ripoff using the Rainbow Six name to trick people into thinking they're buying a Tom Clancy Rainbow Six game.
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>>339727146
This.

It's fucking criminal that Siege doesn't have a single player campaign. Every Rainbow six in existance has had a single player campaign.

>tfw the last true rainbow six game was a fucking Gundam game (albeit a stellar one)
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Those not calling it a Rainbow 6 game clearly missed every game after Raven-Shield till Siege. The concept of the game is extremely unique, followed by a destruction system even more advanced than the Bad Company games.

No match plays exactly the same unless you are tryhard faggot.

The PC community is healthy and with each new DLC the player numbers spike. It's just too bad it doesn't get more support from Ubi.
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>>339726175
12000 renown for a new operator is pretty steep for a new player
Hell, it's pretty steep for existing players if they had to unlock all of the characters
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>>339730165
wait, scratch that, RS3 came out a year after.
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>>339729634
>Vegas series
>Ubi makes one of the worst and poorly written characters, Gabe Nowak
>Vegas 2 shows him as a gung-ho fuck up and gets the hostage negotiator killed
>Team Rainbow, a highly disciplined team made up of the best of the best
>Gabe was somehow able to pass selection into the team
>Helicopter boss battle in Vegas 2
Nice writing Ubi
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>>339729634
You need to provide an argument first
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>>339730184
They do instantly get 4 free, though.

Thinking about it, going Starter Edition -> Buying enough credits to unlock all the operators is the same price as the regular edition AND unlocks every operator, so it's technically a better deal than the base game.
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>>339729927
Siege is a Rainbow Six game, whether you like it or not, fuccboi. The game is not even close to RNG Strike.
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>>339726175
Do you HAVE to have uplay installed to play this ?

It seems fun but I can't be bothered with another useless client. Especially one from ubisoft.
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>selling a game that is already flooded with cheaters for THREE TIMES LESS
Standard ubisoft practice. Move on, the game will be dead by the time the update cycle finishes.
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>>339726175
I don't get it, how is anyone BTFO because of this?
How is this even a bad thing?

Why am I even asking... you are just another dumb shit.
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>>339730574
Yes, although it one of the games where uplay is almost non intrusive. Nothing like Anno or something like that.
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>>339730574
At least Uplay is pretty non-intrusive. I just consider it the R6 launcher.
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question, is this game still popular and did they ever fix the network issues from launch? i remember in the beta it was awful
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>most complaints are the game being multiplayer focused and not being singleplayer therefore not a legit r6 game because this time the good players can outtacticool your dumb ass


Literally casuals complaining they cant fight dumbass AI as the main point of the game
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>>339726175
>playing any R6 game past Rainbow Six 3

lmaooo
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>>339729854
>people still play SWAT4 years after

Where the fuck are the people playing SWAT 4?

DOOM is more alive than SWAT 4 at this point.

Also Siege is a good game at its core riddle with fucking shitty network and bad anti-cheaters system.
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>>339730847
>>339730767
It's still something that runs in the background for absolutely no reason.

Any chances the starter edition will have another discount during the steam summer sale ?

I might get it to play with some friends if it's cheap enough.
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>>339730992
Still popular a d network issues were fixed 2 weeks right after launch i think
Or 1 week?

Anyway the shit netcode was fixed right after launch
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I bought it full price it's a good game but it needs some anti cheat
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>>339731165
>if it's cheap enough.
It is already cheap you underage faggot, get a paper round or save your pocket money.
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Oy vey Gamers.
Just buy the Boosterâ„¢!
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>>339726961
It's no piece of shit but it certainly is not worth $60.
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People complaining about Siege have never played it or remember it from beta. I thought the game looked like shit at first, but watching people play it and then playing it myself changed everything.

It's a completely underrated game.
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>>339731262
>buying uplay games on steam
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>>339731432
Gotta get my cheevos man
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>>339731473
Uplay has them
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>>339728153
Fucking conservatives making sure it never became a thing because muh feels.
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>>339731292
The problem's not me but my friends.
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>>339731165
>It's still something that runs in the background for absolutely no reason.
Just like steam. I'm not here to persuade you of anything if you already knows how it works, I'm just saying that it's less of a headache now
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>>339731609
yeah but they don't show up on my steam account. I want everyone who looks my name up to know that I play the game and have a well informed opinion on it.
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>>339728871
Why would you even compare them?
SWAT4 was primarily for coop/singleplayer
Siege is a multiplayer dedicated to getting people breaching and clearing in a multiplayer FPS
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>Tom Clancy's Counterstrike
>Tom Clancy's Generic Apocalypse Survival Game

Why is ubi obsessed with using Tom Clancy and their old IP names to try to sell shit that those games so obviously do not represent? That shit works LITERALLY ONCE and causes your consumers to mistrust you for lying to them about what to expect from the brand recognition. Are they just incapable of not shooting themselves in the foot?
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>>339726175
I recently got siege.
It's a good game under all that ubisoft bullshit.

Not only micropayments in a full priced game but holy fuck it's broken as fuck
>it took me 3 days to get the game to stop crashing every time a level was loaded
>3 fucking days of doing everything short of format
>forums littered with crash and stutter reports
>game still stutters randomly and freezes for half a second at random
>the new operators are OP as fuck

But the game is still really fun.
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>>339731728
>Just like steam

Yes just like steam, read my first post, dumbass.
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>tfw cant play any other online FPS because they all garbage compared to Siege

How else im gonna get my daily adrenaline rushes if Siege dies?
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>>339726175
Looking at the steamcharts, the game is loosing players real quick. Went from average 65 thousand players to 26 thousand players, to 9 thousand
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>>339727146
MP only game can be worth 60 dollaroos
This game would definetly be worth 60 dolarongas if it wasn't littered with game breaking bugs and optimization issues

And then there's the microtransactions
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>>339731892
Your first doesn't mention Steam, retard.
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>buy a modern Ubisoft title on Steam
>have to install Origin and activate my game on there as well
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>>339727721
Nice try fag.
Uplay is the major thing causing crashes in siege and other ubisoft games.
I bought blood dragon and uplay caused it to crash so only way I got it to work was by cracking out uplay.

On siege, uplay is causing everyone shitload of crashes, if they disable it, the game runs perfectly for some reason.

Uplay is cancerous garbage.
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>>339731954

>uplay game
>steam charts

So Overwatch is officially DOA.
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>>339726175
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>>339731869
The name's still well known, that and their excuse for the division was because red storm was involved I think. Really these days it's just an indicator to avoid the game.
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>>339732085
uPlay*

my bad
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>>339731869
Siege is closer to R6 than Vegas and Lockdown ever were.

Division I have no clue however.
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>>339732142
Why are morons like this allowed to live?
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>>339732103

>being literally this retarded

Uplay doesnt cause crashes, your shit pc does

Blood crashed you stupid mongoloid because the dx10 exe is shit and then you launched with cracked dx9 and got surprised it worked.

You are literally retarded.
No wonder your games are crashing.
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>>339727083
then you havent been playing FPS games in the last 10 years
siege is one of the worst games out there
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>>339731645
>>339728153
It looks like absolute dogshit. What are you retards crying about?
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>>339727146
its not $60 anymore so why is it a problem?
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>>339732142
That idiot is the reason why people call us PCucks. 53 hours to boot too.
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>>339730574
>>339730767
>>339730847
Uplay is not that bad.
Unless you're one of those poor fuckers like me for who uplay completely destroys the game and makes it literally unplayable.
Took me a few days to fuck around with every single setting on my computer to get even a single game going.
Turns out I had to update every single fucking driver on the computer. Siege with uplay has been the only game that has been unstable.
But honestly dealing with shitty uplay is worth it since this game is a truli unique and different MP shooter, especially with 1-2 friends
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>>339729516
On the normal version. On this cheaper one the time to unlock is a lot fucking longer.
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>remember when call of duty made a starter edition?
>why don't we make that too?
>not like we want the cod audience or anything
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>make the game cheap
>hackers can now easily buy it back after being banned
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>>339731406
This, when it works it is spetacular
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Is Ubisoft still a thing?
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>>339726175

>AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHHHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

Holy shit, fuck off.
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>>339726175
A $15 f2p game

genius
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>>339732679
Why wouldn't they be?
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>games are expensive
>/v/ furious
>games are cheap
>/v/ furious
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>>339732628
more like they finally realized that the average cost of a multiplayer only pc game is 20 dollars so they're lowering the cost of the game to compete with tf2 and csgo
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>>339732628
The CoD audience is not the type of player this game caters to. CoD kids wont last 2 seconds and will end up getting owned.
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>>339732487
No it is not. It is pretty damn good.
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>>339732487
retard
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>>339732412
Except unlike you I have spent days trying to get my shitty ubisoft product to work and I'm not talking out of my ass.
Uplay caused problems with BD and only way I got it to work was by cracking uplay so it didn't launch with the game
R6S was literally unplayable, like not a single fucking second of gameplay until I forced uplay offline on an old version and could play situations, during which it ran flawlessly.
Alot of people are having problems with siege, and by far the most cited fix is "turn uplay overlay off"
What has ubisoft ever done to anyone that deserves defence, they are a garbage company ran by worst cutthroat businessmen who hate the customers.
Siege is accidentaly the first actual good game they've released this decade and it is still plagued with ubisofts famous issues like garbage netcode and stutters and optimisation issues and bad support
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>>339732872
/v/ is full of retards like OP.
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>>339732924
no its really not
its filled to burst with connection errors and shitty bugs like spawning your character or drone in the ground so you cant move
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>>339732628
>Discounting the game, means we want the audience of a completely different game, because it was also recently discounted
I know you're just pretending to be retarded, but I wanted to let you know that you're actually retarded.
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>>339733080
Nice to know you are just talking shit about bugs from the beta that were fixed before the full game was released.
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>>339733235
it happened to me in full release though
they werent fixed at all
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I really want to play Siege but I don't want to grind the 200 hours to unlock every character (according to FAQ) and I don't want to pay full price. The only choice left to me is to wait for the summer sale and hope for a 50% discount on the standard version. Otherwise I guess I will never enjoy this game.
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>>339733280
Cool story m8.
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>>339732907
>owned
Who let you out, gramps?
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>>339733280
van bug is still in

Kapkans laser bug was fixed tho
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OK. Riddle me this, batmen:

If I played the game during the Free Week, will I keep my unlocks by buying the Starter edition or will I have to unlock everything again?
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>>339733324
http://www.cdkeys.com/pc/games/tom-clancy-s-rainbow-six-siege-pc-cd-key-uplay
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>>339733280
The game has been patched a lot since release.
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>>339733451
I've played through a few of the patches
they never fixed the connection problems of the broken lean around corners shit
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>>339733342
They fixed the van exploit
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>>339733080
Much of the bugs been long fixed. You would know if you played it
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>>339733324
I've played 10 hours and I've unlocked most characters. All the ones I find interesting to play and a couple of ones I don't care about like IQ
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>>339733538
why would i play a game that took so long to fix its problems
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I don't know anything about the game but I already have Uplay due to Anno so I don't care about that. Is this game worth buying if none of my friends play it?
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>>339730165
fuck you it doesn't need to have tacked on bullshit
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>>339733514
This.
So many times I fire at an enemy who doesn't shoot back and then we both die.
Internet is fine.
It shitty netcode or low tickrate or something
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>>339733571
>not unlocking best girl
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>>339733623
yes
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>>339733610
Because despite all it's problems, and I've had enough to burn down ubisoft HQ, it is still a really fucking good and unique MP game.
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Is Rainbow Six Vegas 2 still legit on pc?
Thinking of picking it up for some singleplayer shenanigans.
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>>339733406
Anyone?
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>>339733610
Like I said. It did not take long. Stop repeating what you see on the internet. They have been great with patches. It is fine if you get it for 30
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>>339733903
yes you keep your stuff whatever
now post more tight dresses
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>>339727083
>I spent $60 on this game and I need to justify it to myself: The Post
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>>339733994
Good, thanks anon.
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>>339733825

Vegas 2 is fucked on pc and on consoles. There is a bug that makes the sound loop (only SFX clips) in the co-op, and it can happen on single player too (console it happens less but is 30 fps).

Also, there is a bug about the player movment on stairs and ramps, you go full sonic when climbing some stairs (console and pc)

Also, on pc you cant get real 16:9 and 16:10, and the fov is fucked. the only way to get over this is whit custom resolutions and black borders. And you wont get real 90 fov.

Advise? just buy insurgency, is close enough and has co-op.
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>>339733924
i played it when they added the canadians which was several months after release
all the problems were still there
I have yet to see any of the patches fix the game
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do you faggots even realise that the siege is the best FPS currently, its literally confirmed
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>>339734131
>I know nothing about this game but I read memes about it on 4 chan so I have to hate on it to look cool on the internet
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>>339734131
>I don't know anything about this game but I'm going to make more EPIK SHITPOSTS 4 DA LOLZ
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>>339734315
by no one
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>>339734486
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>>339734582
yeah thats a picture
no one says you cant enjoy it but rainbow six is terrible
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>>339726175
I got it for 35 bucks off a key site. It has been well worth that price. I'm not assmad that people can buy the game cheaper, just means that more people can play one of the better games to have come out last year.
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>>339734637
Why do you spend all day every day posting this about every game? Why is your life so pathetic that all you do is spend all day posting the same 'it' s shit' comments over and over in every thread about every game?

Why are you and your life so pathetic?
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>>339734250

>mfw Vegas 2 was my favorite
>wanted to do coop with my friend recently
>it's fucked
>I'll never play it again
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>12,500 renown per operator instead of 500-2000
So grinding for an operator takes about ten times as long. However, once you have the operators you like, there's no compulsion to grind for more currency, you can just play as you like.
I wonder what happens if you buy the starter edition on an account that already unlocked operators during the free weekends.
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>>339734903
why are you so defensive when people point out its problems
your precious little game isnt perfect
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>>339727146
>I'm not paying 60 dollars for Battlefield with only MP, where is SP WTF!!!!!!!
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>>339733681
UHHH
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>>339727721
>Both uplay and origin are already better tham steam
lmfao
how?

literally the only good thing about origin is their chat overlay loading quicker
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>>339733681
You seem to have made a mistake in your post. You said "best girl", but you didn't post Frost.
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>>339735019
>1979
IQ is old and busted
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>>339733681
Her gadget is fucking useless.
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>>339735019
Rook looks pretty feminine.
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>>339735019
>Best Girl
>1979
>37 years old
>best girl
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>>339727146
>Rarely any game is worth $60
ftfy
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>>339735184
Not since the last patch.
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>>339735201
His plate carrier accentuates his natural curves
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>got game with my GPU
>some places sold it for 40$ on release
Meh.
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>>339734816
This, despite all the problems, and siege has them a fucking boatload, the gameplay is terrific. The slow silent creeping up followed by an quick and rapid gunfight, all that teamwork and shit. It's just a great, snappy game. Shame it's by ubisoft.
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Do people really buy online multiplayer PC PvP FPS games?

You realize it's riddled with hackers, right?

I bet this game is fun as hell on the xbox one and ps4, but on the PC it would be just cancerous.
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>>339735313
What did they change?

Can we just talk for a second how good siege looks?
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>>339726761
But the price is cheaper to go starter then season pass to unlock all vs buy main game and grind.
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>>339735612
its a shame it falls victim to peaking around corners and shit being over powered
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>>339735707
I havent encountered a single hacker.
On other games yes but it's quickly dealt with a server change.
You realize people can hack on consoles as well or plug in kb and m and destroy everyone easily
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>>339735908
only BB is op but corner peeking is valid, unless you time it right, you gon die. My biggest problem is how hard it is to visually identify all operators.
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>>339735834
The season pass doesn't unlock old operators, it gives you early access to new ones
Starter + season pass =/= standard + season pass
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>>339736309
Nope, you get all DLC operators unlocked without having to use renown with the season pass. Don't know about the starter operators but you get the DLC ones already unlocked.
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>>339726175
i dont understand whats BTFOing about this
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>>339726175

Would've been better if they added a free2play version that tied in with the regular version but made all the operators/weapons either pay to unlock where you pay more than people who bought the game or extremely difficult to grind out. Like 30k renown per operator type scaling for regular operators and 50-60k for dlc operators.

It's clear that they're trying to get more people in the game and are trying to push people into a microtransaction system.

As someone who plays it frequently I feel that an f2p system with paywalls/grindwalls for content and an option for the full version of the game to be an okay system of getting new players into the game. until I have to deal with braindead pubs at least

Siege is a good (if incredibly frustrating) game. Maybe if they fixed the damage model and the lag compensation more people would stick around and they wouldn't have to resort to this kind of thing, but that's just me.
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>>339736685
Literally nothing, OP is a dickhead.
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>>339736698
That'd be awful though.
You don't want your team to suffer because you can't have someone useful like Thermite
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>>339736607
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>>339736698
I feel a free demo of the game where you can play as recruit and play all situations would be great.
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>>339737065
Yes, you get them a week early and you don't have to buy them with renown.
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Why does Siege manage to get so many people buttblasted?
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>>339736863

Well they could have a few starter operators unlocked for them like thermite and thatch, rook and mute, some of the most useful operators in the game so they don't get left out.

The only problem with extreme progression is that not all the operators are uniformly useful and people are going to take the most meta operators first, meaning that the f2p guys are always going to be in competition for operators or will be left with recruit.
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>>339737318
Actually it doesn't
Right now people only think BB is too hard to counter but that's it. Rest are too busy enjoying the game
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>>339731147
Im still playing SWAT 4.
Not online of course, but i still play.
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>Muh SWAT4 memes
>Muh previous R6 games before Vegas
>Muh fashion cover shooter
>Muh CS
>People who hate all modern day FPS
>People who hate multiplayer
>People who hate people working together because no friends
>Ubishit
>Uplay
>Price tag for a multiplayer only game
>Skeleton crew delaying everything because Division
>Steamfags
>Blunderfags who joined since TOR

There are a lot of pathways to become anti-Siege
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I spent about £27 on it during a sale. Oh well. I know to keep away from this type of shit from now on. It's basically paying to not grind before the grinding even existed.
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>>339738809
>most innovative FPS since HL2
The main reason to become pro-Siege.
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I got it free with my meme card.

Now at least I can get my friends to try it since they don't have to spend $60 on it.
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>>339740043
It really isn't, as it basically combines permadeath and team swapping of CS with classes of different abilities of TF and actually makes destruction of BF a core gameplay mechanic.
It adds nifty cameras to fix the problem of permadeath where dead people can't contribute to the game.

But it combines them all in a great way and it is truly a great example of the rule: shit artists steal, great artists copy
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>>339740342
Nothing is original. Combing all those things is innovative. And the destruction in Siege is way better than in Battlefield.
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Here's a silly problem I encountered:

Siege won't let you play Terrorist Hunt in offline mode. It completely locks the option out of the menu but, for some reason, it doesn't lock Multiplayer. Just a weird kink in the system that means you can't play singleplayer unless you're online.
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>>339729817
>Hit detection has been improved by every patch
Yet it's still shit.
>Animations
Still fucks up characters with shields and other things, that it's STILL not working is a fucking wonder of incompetens.

>Lag
Yes, my connection to the Ubisofts servers, 100/10 in the middle of fucking Sweden is my fault.

>BF4 didn't work at launch
Not same franchise nor same publisher/developer, not relatedd.

Rainbow Six Siege had fuckingloads of promise and it turned out be polished shit in the end.
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>>339726175
Is terrorist hunt as fun as it was in rainbow six vegas?
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Fuck, I can't decide if I want to shitpost with >being poor or >uplay.
Both feel so right, yet I can't take both sides.

Quote me and vote. Which one is it?
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>>339726175
But the game is garbage?
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>>339729817
>has been improved upon with every patch
No it hasn't, not by a long shot, the hit detection has been yoyoing since the game came out.

Around christmas it was great, near perfect, and then the next update after that they completely broke it and 2/3 headshots wouldn't count, and then they'd kinda fix it and then break it again in the next patch.

Currently the hit detection is pretty jankety, I've had enemies catching bullets with their teeth and taking only a sliver of damage, if any, despite seeing them bleeding profusely from the face, which is supposed to be the R6:S equivalent of hit confirmation.

It's not the worst it's been, but it's certainly not the best, at the very least ubi are aware it's fucked and will hopefully do something about it.
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>>339728153
God, the 'plot was so fucking cheesy. True american wankfest.
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What' so shitty about Uplay besides it being annoying and it not working? Is it really a botnet?
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>>339744161
It being annoying and not working isn't shitty enough for you?
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>>339744161
No it's not really a botnet you idiot
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Is this game still infested with hackers?
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>>339745220
I've got nearly 300 hours played and I've only bumped into obvious hackers maybe a dozen times.
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>>339744161
Achievements that are tied to uPlay and not my Steam account

Yes, I'm a faggot
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I stopped playing after 150 hours because cheaters were everywhere and the anti cheat they used didnt do jackshit.
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>>339740656
>And the destruction in Siege is way better than in Battlefield.

Not necessarily, Battlefield tries to let you destroy as much over Huge maps 2km2, while Siege only has to focus on rather small indoor areas, letting them allow a lot more detailed destruction.

Simply look at some of the Bf3 Close Quaters maps
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I like the game but the guns dont feel good enough to warant playing this over csgo
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>>339745220
20 hours played and 0 hackers encountered.
Shitty netcode, yes, hackers no.
>>339746002
This.
BF even arma3 lets you destroy entire houses.
In siege it's extremely limited and tied tightly to level design as opposed to red faction guerilla shit.
You can't accidentally level the entire place.
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>>339746103
I have around 500 hours in csgo and I love the game a lot and defend it often, but honestly siege gunplay feels miles better and more satisfying.
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- Instant Unlock:
2 random Operators from a pool of the most intuitive Operators at entry level: Rook, Sledge, Ash, Fuze, Mute, and Smoke.
>Fuze
>Fuze
Please no.
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>>339746103
The terrible hit reg and cheater issues really turn me off from playing it
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>>339726961
I paid 40 dollars for it during a steam sale and got 200 hours out of it. It's pretty fun desu.
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>>339726175
What's the issue? Except the faggots that got btfo buying the game for the full price, but they deserve getting fucked raw anyway.
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>>339746376
>Fuze
That's a real nice hostage you've got there.

It would be a shame if something happened to it.
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>>339726961
>$60
I paid 30 for mine. You just have to know where to look.
Honestly I'm fine with this if it means more player and I stop getting paired with the same 2 people in between matches
And at least starter pack players need to take forever to unlock additional operators.
>Slower unlocking of the remaining 16 Original Operators (GIGN, SAS, GSG9, SPETSNAZ, FBI):
>12,500 Renown or 300 R6 Credits to unlock 1 Operator
>Approx. 15 hours to unlock 1 operator using in-game Renown
Compares to the 500-2000 rainbow bux.
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>>339735718
The only thing they changed is what you can see with it.
Now it's a direct outline of what it is you're seeing, rather than what the fuck ever.

HOWEVER, the big thing is now she is a direct counter to Valkyrie's bullshit, since the cameras she drops literally anywhere are tiny as fuck and hard as balls to find.

So if you know someone on the other team has a season pass, it's worth it to play as IQ.
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>>339726175
is this the one you stand in line and kill civilians ?
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>>339731794
>SWAT4 was primarily for coop/singleplayer
If you ever make friends try out Protect the VIP.
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>>339727246

Why? If you play the game for 100 hours it's not worth $60?
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>>339746376
fuze is fucking nice.
>ak12
>high armor
>real goddamn useful gadget even with hostage
>you see ivan

kapkan and fuze are my most played operators because they are both fun as fuck

Both operate on the princible of instilling fear in enemies
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I like how they do these retarded Starter Edition deals because PC gamers are useless grate-lickers who don't buy full-price games. They did it for BO3 also.
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>>339726175
>339726175
who was stupid enough to buy a ubishit product deserves this
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>>339747442
I know. What I mean is.
>Entry level
>Fuze
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>>339747629
As long as you don't use fuze on hostage room you'll be fine
You won't pick fuze in 1 gamemode, on the rest he's brilliant as a beginner. And as you get better and learn the maps you actually start getting kills
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>>339746376
>Mute
>Fuze
>Ash
>Entry level
Oh boy, I can't wait for people to take: Mute and have no idea how to place his jammers, Fuze and blow up the hostage, or Ash and trash the wrong window immediately
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>>339726175
>Monopoly Money
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>>339747508
>deserves this
Deserve what? A cheaper version of a game?

Only a full on retard like you would see this as a bad thing.
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>>339728870
>chokepoints
Really the chokepoints aren't as bad as everybody thinks, it's just that every shitter won't take the alternative routes.
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>>339747802
In this case though, this means that if you get (un)lucky and get Fuze as your free attacker, you're stuck with him unless you blow 300 of your 600 RC to buy another attacker. Either that or we're gonna start seeing a lot more recruits in-game.
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>>339748120
In 2 out of 3 cases fuze is useful. And in that 1 out of 3 he is useful in placing the charge near the hostage room to catch anyone creeping out.
Problem is new players tend to barricade themselves in and new attackers won't know the maps or won't communicate enough to know when and where to place clusterbomb
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>>339747831
I feel that Ash is probably one of the more entry level attackers, if not the most entry level. She's simple enough compared to the rest, and breaching charges work just fine, even if they're way more unsafe compared to her gadget.
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>>339749148
This.
Ash is quite easy, at entry level she just plays as a surprise breaching charge with no telegraph
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>>339749148
The problem with new ash players is that they waste their grenade launcher on shitty wooden barricades on exterior windows
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>Have a friend who got Siege on Xbone because that's what everyone he knew played it on
>I got it on PC for free
>He got really good with a handful of operators
>Everyone else quit except me
>Now he can get the game and the few operators he wants for super cheap

I honestly don't see where the BTFO part is coming in. BTFO because there are going to be a whole bunch of new people playing for me to kill? BTFO because people who didn't get it on PC can now do so for super cheap? BTFO because I got the game and was able to unlock every operator for it?
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>>339728280
It's pretty fun but very different from Six Siege. I'm not sure why people are making the comparison desu.
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>>339747018
Oh that's amazing.
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>>339751010
Yeah she's pretty good now.
>tfw you're having fun spotting everyone's shit
>tfw you don't notice when the enemy sneaks up behind you and kills you
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