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Post YFW you see one or more of them on your team
you must have really shit Zens and D.vas on your team.
>>339723050
Zen is not a bad character, it's just that everyone is horrible with him.
D.va is just fucking shit.
>>339723168
i dunno i've seen some really good D.vas and im a Zen main.
>Gays, into the Irish
What did he mean by this?
>>339722947
Symmetra is only good on the first half of defense on Objective maps, but she's pretty much good for the entire game of defense on the desert one
>>339722947
Torbjorn is alright for certain points. Same goes for Symmetra. A lot of people forget that they can switch heroes mid-game.
Symmetra can be a fucking monster with certain captures. Really locks down momentum unless if someone actively counterpicks.
>>339723262
With Zen it's not that he's bad, but I very rarely see a Zen who helps his team more than he would if he played Lucio instead. That and the moment anyone on the enemy team picks Widow it's game over.
D.va can't do anything for her team that Winston or another character can't do better.
>>339722947
zen is really useful if the enemy team have a 2 tanks, and your team a tracer. completely shreds niggas.
>>339723471
>A lot of people forget that they can switch heroes mid-game.
It's not that they forget, it's just
>b-but muh ult %!
Symmetra is ONLY useful for her teleporter, meaning that she's only good when defending the first point on defense. Once you have to fall back to the final point near your spawn, she no longer has use.
She is absolutely worthless on KOTH and on offense, and I STILL see people pick her on these modes. It's disgusting.
>>339723491
Winston can tear down tanks in under 2 seconds? Other characters can negate enemy ultimates entirely by pressing E? What other character lets me stay alive to harrass after death?
>>339723691
>Winston can tear down tanks in under 2 seconds?
can d.va? this cunt does more damage out her mech.
>tfw you accidentally get PotG as Zen
I'm so sorry.
>>339723691
>Other characters can negate enemy ultimates entirely by pressing E?
Mei's wall
Reinhart's shield to an extent
Winston's shield to an extent
I'm not understating its usefulness, I'm just saying there's others who can also cushion such stuff. Especially Mei.
>>339723671
Her turrets can be amazing for harassment, area control, and kills, having a little extra regenerative health is nice, especially for squishy fucks like tracer, and her gun is like a fucking leech. Can also penetrate Rein's shield like a fat cock.
>>339723671
I could see the teleporter being super useful on attack, but it would just essentially function as a makeshift Mercy Ult.
>>339723691
Winston cant break turrets as easily as she can, for instance. When talking about chasing squishies I agree that Winston is almost always on par if not better.
But D.VA shield can do a fuckton of things that other characters can`t, like completely negating some ults (Pharrah, Hanzo, Reaper comes to mind)
>>339722947
What?
The dwarf and the poo chick are annoying when they're defending.
>that fucking turret placed in a hard to reach corner
>the laser sentries stuckd behind a wall you need to go through
D.Va would be top tier of her shotguns weren't so weak.
>>339723491
Zen is basically a walking ult who spams little pew-pew weapons in the meantime. Great in game modes where you have to capture or hold something for extended period, because being INVULNERABLE while making sure your team doesnt die around you is pretty damn powerful when you're capturing something.
Trick with Zen is to follow other characters who are tanky or otherwise soak up the damage for you. Funny thing is Zen works really well with D.va, he both gives D.Va health regen and makes it easier for D.Va to kill stuff, while D.va can just bodyblock most projectiles coming at Zenyatta.
>>339723691
>Winston can tear down tanks in under 2 seconds?
>implying d.va can
Literally fucking Mercy has better damage than D.va's mech.
>Other characters can negate enemy ultimates entirely by pressing E?
>What is Reinhardt
>What is Roadhog
>What is McCree
>What is Mei
>What is Winston
>What is Genji
Not to mention Lucio and Zen have ults that basically negate any incoming damage for a few seconds.
>>339723813
Yes. Try not being shit, each pellet does damage. Big targets get toen to shreads.
>>339723930
Those only block ults, and only some. DVa can completely negate them entirely. With shields, the ults still go off, lime Zarya and Hanzo ults.
I play D.Va and Zenyatta and I have 61.4% and 56.5% win rate with each respectively
maybe you're the one pulling the team down, anon
>>339723930
>Winston's shield to an extent
I don't know what character has the Stiff Breeze ult but I don't think Winston's shield could stand up to it.
>>339723930
>Especially Mei.
Meifag here. It's the best.
>HIGH NOON
>Wall to the face blocks his line of sight
>FIRE IN THE HOLE
>Wall completely shuts off his tire's path and/or absorbs the explosion
>JUSTICE RAINS FROM ABOVE into a wall if they're not high enough
>MOLTEN WAAAAAALLLL
>>339723920
I got a POTG as Zen once. It was me shooting balls at a Reinhardt shield then hopping on top of the payload and double headshotting a Hanzo who was about to ult.I also had the most eliminations on our team, we couldn't push the payload around the second corner on Dorado
literally only waifu fags pick d.va over winston, this is fact.
>>339724203
Nigger, read >>339724206
>mercy has better damage
You have never so much as played Overwatch.
>>339724201
>Zen works really well with D.va
This is actually true. Zen works well with D.va, Symmetra, and Torbjorn. D.va has loads of shield which heals slower, meaning Zen gets lots of ult build, on top of having her soak up damage for him, and Symmetra / Torbjorn keep him from dying to bodyshots.
Bad characters gotta stick together.
>>339724349
The tire can climb walls, stupid.
>>339722947
A good D.Va kicks ass, as does Zenyatta, and Torbjorn can be really good on defense. Symmetra is literally shit though.
anyone who thinks zenyatta is bad doesn't play tanks and anyone who thinks symmetra isn't disgusting simply hasn't played against one ever
d.va is probably the weakest character in the game (not that that means much) and torb is pretty fine overall, can one hit tracers with his right click easy
Zen is the ultimate Roadhog bully, as long as you stay out of range of his hook, he's a free ult and you'll force him to keep hiding and healing
Casual skins when blizzard?
>>339724206
>each pellet does damage
Yeah so the half a second you're actually close to a big target before they just walk away from you because you're essentially immobile while shooting you'll be dealing good damage. Then you'll be back to dealing damage so low that it will be healed off by their Lucio faster than you can dish it out without him even needing to press E.
>>339723968
It is NOT the engie's teleporter, it can only be used a max of 6 times (so once per teammate).
You bet your ASS that shitty tracer who dies instantly is going to use it 2 ~ 3 times instead of someone who genuinely needs it.
>>339724468
I guess they're all horrible then. They've always detonated or turned around and ran out of time/suffered too much damage doing so.
>>339724359
I wish I had saved it, but the only PoTG I got with Zen was at the very end of the payload route, I popped the ult, and then afterwards got a triple kill on a Widowmaker, Hanzo and Mercy that were looking the other way
>>339724490
Torb's problem isn't the character, but what he encourages; and that is turret humping when it's completely unnecessary for him to do so, since his gun is great and his turret takes only 5 seconds to upgrade and armor pickups basically act as health packs for him.
>not wrecking as Dva
I'm sorry we can't all be good, OP.
>>339722947
I play Torbjorn as a Reaper and I do pretty OK.
>>339724545
How do you intend on a jetpack that big integrating into casual attire?
>>339723671
Her sentries are fuck amazing at protecting your back line from flanking assassins
>>339722947
>how to lose in Overwatch
playing Overwatch means you've already lost.
>>339723930
D.Va can l make Pharah fuck herself with her own ult. Just shift up them when you activate your shield.
>>339724631
She can fly by expelling all the semen that's crammed in her ass.
>>339722947
Torb is a beast on defense.
Zenyatta + Lucio wins games for you
DVa you literally need to get gud, she's not a tank like Rein
Really, it's when I see someone instalock genji that I know I'm fucked
If there's two I leave
>>339724318
what happens if mccree uses high noon on people in it
>>339724696
mercy has a penis?
Is there anything more annoying than a good Tracer player? Holy shit, its impossible to hit that bitch unless you're a Mcree or a Soldier 76 and she can destroy your tank without a problem
>>339724484
Only thing shit about Symmetra is her weapon range. Certain maps she can be a pain in the ass if she decides to hold some bottle-neck area with her turrets and her weapon. You cant get through without some huge aoe ulti. Well placed teleporter means you win the match no matter what. But get any map with huge open areas in crucial capture-points or similar and she sucks.
played about 40 hours and have yet to see a single decent d.va desu.
>>339724547
Nice thwory crafting, but D Va can just stop shooting and walk foward. She never reloads, and can use her Shift to push people into walls and corners.
>>339722947
I'll fucking rekt your shit with Zenyatta m80
Zen just needs a tad more health and he should be fine
>>339724390
D.VA is incredibly useful for leading a push on a bastion / sentry. Shield and boost can be used at the same time to get right up in their face, then bullet it down. If you don't succeed, you even have a stronger pistol after being forced out of your mech.
I've had matches where it was a roll just because I was on the turret's ass all game, it gave my team a lot of breathing room to position and fight the rest of them off.
Then you can also force the enemy to fuck off at chokes with your really stupid ult, maybe even catch a person dumb enough to stick around.
>>339724390
B-b-but D.Va is best waif
>>339724751
Luckily, most tracers are waifufags that get pushed over by stiff breezes. I shit on tracers and I main Lucio.
But a good one changes games. Same thing with Winston.
If the opposing team has a good widow? Shit. People actually bitch about mccree when this purple piece of shit got through and it infuriates me. I think the person at blizzard responsible for balancing frost mage did this
Tfw when I shit all over everyone as D.VA and wreck supports all day
Yall niggers need to get on my level.
>>339722947
I'm one of the worst Overwatch players in the world and I got a 22 killstreak with Torb, WTF are you talking about?
>>339724961
but I don't want to be level 5 again
>>339722947
How do I play widowmaker guys? I always get killed by assassins before I can have an impact. If I play too far back I dont get kills.
>>339724751
Torb, Mei, Zen and Sym are all pretty good against tracer. Torb's auto-aim turret rapes her, Mei builds a wall, Zen can two-bodyshot her, and Sym slows the fuck out of her.
>>339724850
Again she can't do anything that Winston doesn't do better
>tfw like play torb
>defending on hollywood
>place sentry on vertically moving platform
>sentry never gets touched
>win
>enemy team yells at me
>mfw
I don't get why people hate him so much.
>>339724961
You must be the one good D.Va player then
I'm rank 40 and they've all been shit to mediocre
if you don't play reinhardt/mccree/lucio/mercy/widowmaker, your team don't need and you may as well not even play the game.
>>339725016
I only pick Widow when we're at a one entrance chokepoint, otherwise she's too much of a target to be useful
>>339725052
>mfw doing this on the moving platforms in Volskayya
>>339725001
Nice.
>>339724739
He waits five seconds for a Lucio to fart in its general direction then kills them all, meanwhile they can't shoot back because they're all hiding in the bubble :^)
>>339725016
I'd say work on your aim, but widow doesn't really need to at 150 a body shit and one second between shots
It's honestly sounding like your main problem is maps. Get familiar with them. You have vertical movement, which is silly in this game, use it. You have a venom mine for flankers. Your assault rifle is way too powerful if you get some monkey dick.
>>339725115
You forgot tracer
>>339725001
Try 39 nigga.
>>339725060
Are you only playing with gooks? To be honest I still do see a ton of shitty frontline D. VAs too.
>>339725051
Again, >>339723691
>Toblerone
>Bad
>>339723920
>killing two people is the "play of the game"
>>339723671
>Blizzard actually made a class based FPS where some classes are completely worthless in multiple given situations that can't be overcome with skill
People play this shit?
>>339725186
>meanwhile they can't shoot back because they're all hiding in the bubble
what
>regularly get potg as D. Va with detonate
Learn your boostfu.
>>339725270It's PotG because Junkrat's tire blocks Hanzo's face for a second and gets destroyed
>They don't know about Torbjorn stack.
DID SOMEONE SAY ARMOR.
>>339725264
>5w - 5l
MAN 50% IS ROCKING
>>339725357
After beta haven't seen anyone getting hit by D.va ult anymore. Or that many Bastions.
>>339723491
>D.va can't do anything for her team that Winston or another character can't do better.
Winston is worse than D.Va and is pretty shit TBQH.
>>339725415
FORCED 50
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>>339725279
It's a team based game, mong. Literally no one needs a character that's good for "epic kills" and that's it
If you want to play a bland homogenized game where everyone is exactly the same just run all soldier 76
>>339725227
>Other characters can negate enemy ultimates entirely by pressing E?
Yes. He literally can do just that.
>Winston can tear down tanks in under 2 seconds?
His damage is much better than D.va's, as he can move while attacking and hit multiple targets.
>>339722947
I've only ever lost one game playing as Symmetra. You have shit taste.
>>339725452
what is this meme?
>>339725264
How do you find yourself on that site? I can't do it.
>>339725437
Winston is superior to D.Va in every way and is amazing if you know how to play him
>>339725270
That's been happening a lot lately
>>339724739
It'd break after the first few targets and hit the others
>>339723312
Only homos play McCree
>>339725452
I used to think forced 50 was a meme until I hit 30 and had 107 games and 65 wins
Look at the stats of the literal top five players in the world. They're hovering around 55%. They're NOT bad
>>339725452
They can try as they might to do that, but you can still make it work. 65%-70% master race. Flanking is god-tier when you do it right.
>>339725428
Gotta save detonate so it hits its mark as soon as it blows up. Can't do it too soon. Helps of you're ambushing or you have a Mei building walls
>>339725052
>play predominately as D.Va, Mercy, and Bastion
>After six hours of playing, only have two potg
>join match, needs builder
>fuck it, I'll play as torb
>only play for five minutes, win match
>get potg with a double kill from turret plus ult kill
Honestly torb is awesome
>>339725597
>he doesn't play McCree
It doesn't do anything to help balance if no one abuses broken characters. It'll never go away otherwise.
Playing a lot of Torb, Zen and D.Va I feel like all three require a bit more teamwork to function well. More teamwork than most other classes really.
D.Va doesn't kill very well on her own but is an excellent distraction with her chip damage and mobility. Sadly a lot of players just charge the point alone or in pairs because loltankclass but can't seal the deal. Also her ult is really easy to avoid.
Toblerones turret isn't really that strong by itself but is great when the enemy is preoccupied with somebody else, either a teammate or Toblerone himself. Problem is people just play him like a set-and-forget engineer.
Zenyatta is my favorite character in both design and function but he really needs teammates in front of him to get shit done. It's always those awful teams where everyone just trickles into the front line one or two at a time after they respawn rather than grouping up or pushing. Zen has decent healing and solid damage with Discord Orb being really fucking strong, assuming you have a team worth working with. Alone he's practically defenseless and can be melted by every other hero.
tl;dr they require more teamwork than other heroes and teamwork can be hard to find in soloqueue.
>>339725463
But every hero already plays the same because there's no advanced or even intermediate mechanics to learn for literally anything in Overwatch.
You pick a guy and do their little pidgeon-holed job, and if you don't need whatever specific thing done then you switch to someone that does what you want to do, which makes the game blandly homogenized right out of the box because you play 1 way or you lose.
>>339725060
But D.va is the best character, Anon.
>>339725569
>DIE DIE DIE
>JUSTICE RAINS FROM ABOVE
>IT'S HIGH NOON
>press E to nullify
Remind me again how useful Winston's shield is when Reaper teleports inside to Q?
>>339725521
Conspiracy that there is a hidden MMR that puts solo queue players doing well with players doing shit to force them closer to a 50% winrate
>>339724886
Any time I've had good matches with D.va is when I've played her like Reaper. That is, rush to the enemy flanks, and then constantly harass their healers, snipers and defenders. Difference to Reaper is she cant kill things as efficiently but she has super-safe escapes so she can keep harassing without dying for the whole match if necessary.
>>339722947
>Teleport pressure with a quick regen shield is bad also turrets that slow and reveal enemy trying to flank you
>Anti tank + Anti sniper while ult can clear points or turrets
>75 armor, huge damage and point control
>Cant talk about zen because I dont really feel like getting 1 shotted by none taking care of sniper
Nah you got some cards you need to know how to play them, yes some are easier to play but that doesnt mean the ones in there are useless at all, it requieres more brain.
Zen and symmetra are both much more effective if there's a lucio or mercy on the team too.
I usually lock one of them if I see we already have a dedicated healer because it increases your chances of victory exponentially
>>339725403
COME GET YOUR ARMORcan you still get the achievement for having armor on 5 teammates at once if there's more than 1 torbjorn on the team? or does it actually make it easier for both to get it?
>>339723671
I respect your opinion, but you're wrong
>>339725708
>But every hero already plays the same
Go work and maybe you can afford the game anon
>>339725708
>I never actually played the game
You're on illios defense. Describe to me how you approach this as:
Winston
Widow
Lucio
Torb
All the same, amirite? Nobody's claiming the game is difficult, but there's a line between that and actually shitposting.
>>339725732
>saving your entire team by pressing E and SHIFT and pushing them away
This is a whole new way to tank
>>339725381
It's better than "I used High Noon/DIEDIEDIE when I was supposed to" PotG #58896
>>339722947
>based glass cannon
motherfuckers need to gitgud and pass into the iris
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6-PWh_6c24
>>339725892
Junkrat PotGs are my favorite
They're just always funny, I fucking love trashmouse
>>339725870
>Illios Defence
>Defence on a King of the Hill map
>This man is making fun of others for having not played the game
if you dont have 20+ elimination average you dont deserve to play desu, reinhardt/healers users not included.
When I play D.Va well I usually have 3 or more gold medals. You can't play her like Reinhardt... It's kinda like a less sneaky way more aggressive Genji maybe. Just force people to fuck off
>>339725452
>complete trash at aiming
>somehow still above 50% across two characters
>>339725852
Hi anon, because you're illiterate and possibly Canadian I'll take a moment to explain that to you.
See, if you have about 10-15 hours in a hero and aren't braindead, you learned the class and can now play at about the same level as everyone else who's played it, which means every person playing a particular hero will be playing about the same as another person who picked that same here, because there is no way to play them markedly different than how Blizzard wants you to play.
Aiming is literally the highest skill ceiling mechanic in the game by far, and that's the way it will always be, which is not unique to any of the heroes.
>tfw the defenders have to deal with a turret on payload with rein protecting it.
>their snipers are too busy to see the tor flanking them
>MOLTENNN
With the right teamwork Tor is fucking hileirous for attack.
The real problem for tor is that you will see a widowmaker or hanzo every game. And those characters will counter him in pubs because few bother to protect the turret, forcing you to put it in terrible angles.
>>339726058
>can't answer the question
I understand 40 bucks breaks NEET banks but damn anon
>>339724996
This. Playing Torb effectively involves.. finding somewhere your turret can shoot but won't be shot right away... and the kills just flow. Every now and then when things get hairy, pop your ult for level 3 turret and blat blat some mofos with his gun.
>>339725264
He's only as good as the enemy team are bad
>>339725597
if you don't have a mccree on your team you are at a disadvantage
>>339726157
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-SE2Qeqj1g
>>339725521
>are you a solo que player?
>open up stats on total game/win game
>its near 50%
F O R C E D 5 0
Oh, I see you have 3 win streaks currently, let me que you up with "lets 6man hanzo; because its funny" and "3 hero that is basically does the same thing and are squishy, 2 shit tier non meta heros and you episode"
>>339725707
>Zenyatta is my favorite character in both design and function but he really needs teammates in front of him to get shit done. It's always those awful teams where everyone just trickles into the front line one or two at a time after they respawn rather than grouping up or pushing. Zen has decent healing and solid damage with Discord Orb being really fucking strong, assuming you have a team worth working with. Alone he's practically defenseless and can be melted by every other hero.
This. Zen absolutely needs to pair up with someone who can bodyblock enemy shots for him. He doesnt have to be stuck to someone's ass as much as Mercy, but he's still effectively like Mercy, with the exception he can shoot enemies while he's healing and debuffing.
>tfw you rarely get play of the game because you play well consistently
>even when you get a triple kill on the objective somebody elses braindead [Q] double kill wins PotG
At least I have my gold medals...Nobody ever commends me either.
>>339726157
https://youtu.be/qytdp4obq9g
Why do so many people say that Torb's turrets don't hurt that much? Have you even been hit by one? They hit only slightly weaker than bastion and they notice you immediately.
You have no idea how cancerous a 3+ Torb defense team is. I went up against 4 Torb's + Bastion + McCree in Volskaya and we couldn't do a fucking thing. I tried being Pharah and the fucking SECOND you poke your head out to shoot it it takes literally half her health off. You have to aim all 3 rockets perfectly and during the exact moment when it's visable or you'll die from taking too much damage. And that fucker is always baby sitting it so as soon as you kill it he just builds another, or the other enemies help defend him and you're dead as a motherfucker.
I can see how just 1 torb is fine, maybe even weak, but if there's multiples or his team as even a handful of brain cells you might as well just leave the game .
>>339726274
Oh god what the fuck.
>>339722947
>implying multiple torbs on defense isn't GOAT
>>339725873
Not every hero wears a cape.
>>339722947
D.Va is eh, Symmetra is only really good if the enemy is running a Rein with a bunch of flank classes, Torb seems to only really do well when there's two of them spitting out turrets and MOLTEN COAR-ing whenever there's a push, and even then it just slows the advance rather than stopping it.
However Zenyatta when played right is an amazing asset to a team. You play him when your team already has a "main" healer like Mercy or Lucio. Stick with the main bulk of the team and slap Orb of Discord on anyone who tries to confront your group, they'll melt like butter under that +50% damage taken debuff.
>>339722947
Torbjorn is always good on defense and Symmetra is good on both defense and offense as well. D.va is one of the counters to snipers and Bastions. Zenyatta is a good off-support to melt tank characters.
>>339726458
It's not, just pick a couple of pharas, a mercy and a reinhardt and the turrets will be gone in two seconds
>>339726358
>what is the life of a Mei player
I am too
>>339726394
>try to wallride as lucio
>get caught on textures
>fall
>embarass myself
How to gitgud?
>>339725016
Find the right spots to stand out of range with an entire team between you, especially high up where some characters just plain cannot get to. Set up a mine too, a good distance away as more of a warning than anything.
And also grapple works on walls, not just ledges, and has an insane range. If anyone gets close you can grapple away faster than most character can chase, and assault rifle's honestly pretty strong too.
Really though, on some maps there just is literally nothing an enemy team can do about Widowmaker besides have their own Widowmaker.
>>339726461
waste of an ult
>>339726461
That's fucking hilarious.
>toblerone
>bad
His turrets literally have no reaction time. It's like trying to go up against someone with an aimbot
>>339724395
Try getting headshots next time, shitter.
>>339722947
>tfw when Symmetra, Zenyatta, and D.Va are my three favorites
I'll give you D.Va, as she isn't a great tank but is also pretty serviceable. The supports are great though, and you're probably a shitter if you need a constant pocket Mercy. I've gotten 6+ plays of the game as both of them, routinely.
>>339725892
>High noon man gets 3 kills with it
>I appear as PoTG
I understand some basic about PoTG but sometimes I dont get it.
>>339722947
>Every time I play Symmetra I seem to win the game
>I don't really understand why but it keeps working
>Getting constant POTG's with her too
Her gun is insane after a few seconds and the beams can surprise people sure but I shouldn't be getting like 30 elim's as often as I am
>>339726461
Reinhardt could have done that without wasting his ult D.va is a waste of space
>>339726157
Go ahead and join an e-sports team then, you should make a big buck.
>>339725357
I love that ult.
It's just free charge as Zarya.
>>339726157
Nice theory crafting. I guess you'll be the world champion when ranked comes put.
>>339726494
>However Zenyatta when played right is an amazing asset to a team.
Just played a 4 minute overtime game because the team had Mercy rezzing and Zenyatta throwing out invuls. Really hated it so much. Somehow managed to win oddly when I switched heroes...
>People can't gitgud with D.VA
Go ahead and pick ezmode Widow then
>>339723671
>What are her turrets and shields
Granted, the shield needs a buff, but she is probably the best at controlling specific zones and defensive harassing.
>>339726745
He would've flown off the map too. Don't lie.
>>339726000
Is this supposed to be ironic, with all of those balls missing?
>>339726712
Why is Widowmaker so sexy
>>339726394
Problem is, if you go around doing that kind of shit you're not healing or supporting your team. Pretty good though
>>339726721
Shutdown on Roadhog ult
>>339726745
D'va could have done that too, just swing to the left immediately before the fall, reinhardt would have killed himself
>>339726795
>Level 20
Anon, anyone could get those medals against low level players.
You'll start to notice how shit D.va is once you level up about 20-30 more times.
>>339726640
Widow can be flanked and bullied pretty easy in most maps with Tracer or Reaper. In premades her ulti is just ridiculous, see the entire team for an extended period of time through walls, thats the kind of shit that will dominate any pro-meta if theres going to be one in this game. So powerful.
>>339723930
Genji's E can reflect ults back at the enemy team.
>>339722947
Dwarf-man, d.va, and symmetra are fine.
Zenyatta is only a loss if the enemy team knows his weakness.It's that he dies to anything
Symmetra can be decent, spreading turrets through low-traffic areas that characters like tracer, genji, repear, and mcree might go through can cause serious trouble for them. They can also alert you when an enemy is coming from that direction.
Dwarf-man just puts down his turret and can run around being a slightly-below average character because he has a really fucking good gun.
Although, both dwarf-man and symmetra make zenyatta a viable pick.
D.va is underwhelming, but I don't really chalk her up as a free loss.
>>339726795
>lvl 20
lmao opinion discarded
>pushing the payload with team as Reinhardt
>as we turn the corner I'm getting shot by Symmetra's laser sentries while defending my entire team
>dying from every sentry targeting me while everyone is just shooting in a straight line and ignoring the bright blue lasers
>put down shield to smack sentries on the wall right next to me
>get blown up
>"wow wtf rein"
Needless to say, we lost because that kept happening at every turn, EVERYONE was ignoring the lasers.
>>339726639
wallride less and jump more. There's not many walls that actually let you ride for a good length of time. Jump around corners and onto spots where the wall sticks out to stay in the air
>>339727090
Zenyatta and D.va make for a good duo. Zen heals D.va, debuffs enemies so D.va can get easier kills, and D.va bodyblocks enemy projectiles.
>>339726894
She has a cute nose and soft skin.
People underestimate how strong Symmetra is on Attack. I have a higher winrate on that than Defend.
He turrets help sort of "lock down" your teams position, and prevents enemy flankers from doing their job. Even better if you put all six in the same small room and watch the eliminations pour in. Her strongest asset for attack though is her teleporter, because the attacking team always had the longer walk from their spawn and with it you can give your team nearly 100% uptime, especially during the last checkpoint on payload maps to keep the pressure on and that can usually lead to a win.
I think also how effective she is is based heavily on the enemy team composition. There are some matches where she just feels almost like half a character and you wonder why the hell you're even playing her.
>>339726891
>Shield
>Trashmouse or Mei murders cowboy
>>339725115
i do play reinhardt though
>>339727217
>because that kept happening at every turn
You're awful
>>339724937
This. Most Tracer players are trash. I think I've only lost 1v1 once as Tracer against another Tracer.
>>339725036
Torbjorn's turrets are really good against tracer. Plus, her guns take like 3 clips to kill a turret.
Zenyatta has such paper skin and is slow that I don't think he's a legitimate counter. Most characters can double body shot Tracer.
Symmetra's sentries can actually kill Tracer as she attempts to rewind. Normally the rewind is instantaneous and unstoppable but if I'm being gunned down by the sentries, they usually kill me as the rewind is starting. Plus Symmetra's gun shreds Tracer as well.
>>339727217
>tfw shooting down sentries as mercy because nobody else will
I feel you nigga.
>>339727404
>Even better if you put all six in the same small room and watch the eliminations pour in
not if they communicate
>>339726639
You can't wallride on the same wall twice in a row, so jumping past a door or a window won't ever work. The secret to spam jump. Notice he's rarely wall riding in that video.
>>339726918
His aura has a pretty decent range, the issue is that it requires line of sight.
>>339725512
No, his shield can not negate ultimates, and often breaks when trying to block them. And his damage sucks dick, you'll be stuck on any tank for long enough that they can easily kill you. Meanwhile, DVa can literally make enemy ults disappear, and her damage is amazing on large targets.
>>339727217
should've switched to winston you chump
>>339727502
>pugs
>communicating
>Play Torbjorn
>Firing rivets down a choke
>See a random enemy stumble over
Torb has his flaws but he is also severely underestimated. His Rivet Gun does insane damage and he's actually a tough nut to crack once he gets armor. Bonus points if he has a Symmetra shield on top of it.
>>339727404
Shes much like Bastion on attack. Your team clears out some good spot for you, and then you can keep it indefinitely while being a major pain in the ass for defenders.
Symmetra picks a good room, deploys teleporter, riddles it with protective turrets, then stays close by to defend the teleporter and you got a major help for the team already when others can just keep pouring on the objective, overwhelming the defenders.
>>339727573
If her damage is so amazing on large targets then why can a Roadhog hook a D.va and beat her 1v1 in close quarters
What is the bar under your health that fills as you do shit?
>>339722947
But while defending dwarf is awesome for support.
>>339726918
You haven't played lucio have you.
>>339725270
>>339725575
Pretty sure Blizzard changed their PotG algorithm from beta
>Zen is bad
Zen is clutch.
>>339727573
>her damage is amazing
>on anyone
>>339727731
I think it's just your "on fire" meter
>>339725051
She takes a big steaming shit on Winston's face, so she's a decent counterpick to double Winston cancer.
>See a swarm of Reinhardt on the payload
>SmilingSymmetra.png
>>339727687
Because you suck ass as her and don't know how to play the game? Barrier negates the hook, and your guns are as stong as his, but fire faster and never reload. Hit his head, not his stomach.
>>339727860
So it doesn't actually do anything?
Great game design blizzard
>>339726358
>>339726579
Fuck off Meifaggots
All of you deserve cancer
I pop a chubby every time I flashbang and fan your fat chink asses
>>339727846
What a compelling argument.
I want to do lewd things to Mercy.
>>339727882
>She takes a big steaming shit on Winston's face
No, she doesn't. D.va doesn't counter anyone, except maybe Torbjorn with the ability to close the distance on his turret with her shield + boost and kill it easily.
And even then Torb himself still beats D.va 1v1.
>>339727927
It shows the players who's performing well when they look at the player screen without turning it into a bog-standard fps scoreboard
>>339727927
it does though, you can see how close you are to be on fire so you push yourself just a bit further to get on fire and see your ult starting to charge really fast
>>339727904
>your guns are as strong as his
LOL
>>339727882
>She beats winston
Lmao holy shit you're bad.
>>339726058
It's called defending when you get the point you dipshit
>>339727415
>Reinhardt could've done that better than Dva
>Uh no I mean he could've shielded! Yeah! Can Dva do that? BTFO!
If you can't even reply correctly the first time on a Chinese pottery barn forum, you're not ready to make split second decisions like this. You would've died from McCree's ult.
>>339728091
Learn to score headshots, you retarded fuck. It's even easier than ever against Roadhog.
>>339726274
did he somehow manage to get into a console server?
Does anyone else pee in the sides of the toilet to make less noise?
>>339727904
>Her guns are as good as his
Wow
>>339722947
All 4 of those characters are fine.
D.Va wrecks when someone other than a waifufag plays her
Zen and Sym are fine as long as the team realizes that support != healer and has a mercy/lucio
Torb just wrecks even if an idiot plays him
>>339728193
>Learn to score headshots, you retarded fuck. It's even easier than ever against Roadhog.
Except I can do that as Roadhog too, and the D.va is even EASIER to headshot than Roadhog.
>>339727927
On fire alerts the other team that you are the boss nigger in that match
>>339728221
don't do that, it makes really tiny drops of pee (so tiny you won't notice them) splash out of the toilet bowl onto your pants and walls and floor
>>339727882
>D.Va takes a big steaming shit in Winston's face
>>339728320
I guess that works but I meant to post this webm
>>339723671
Symmetra is my main support and I try to be useful with her. Even the best player will still perform below average compared to the other supports.
The turrets do fuck all damage and it takes like 5 hours of uptime in order to get a decent amount of them going. Overwatch is a game of constant deaths though so good luck with that happening unless you're in the back and manage to avoid flankers the whole game.
The shield is completely useless. Teleporter is mainly useless. I don't care how many turrets you have a a flanker can just strafe around a corner 10 times and your whole teleporter and turrets are destroyed.
Torbjorn can be a god on defense, anon. And if he goes aggressive when he has his molten core instead of babysitting his turret, he can be even better.
>>339722947
Won a game yesterday with 5 torbs and a lucio.
Shit was nuts
>>339728320
No an idiot tor gets wrecked. Its more tor crushes idiots.
>>339722947
Can someone help me?
I bought two $20 blizzard cards to purchase overwatch, but I didn't account for the tax placed on top of the price. Now how am I supposed to pay that off?
>>339722947
I leave.
>>339728417
A true hero
>>339728236
Prove they aren't, shitter. The damage is all on the wiki, just look that shit up. You people are more casual than GameFAQs users.
>>339728417
>un altro italiano
oggi è proprio giornata speciale
>Zenyatta on Point A defense of Volskaya or Point A of Hanamura with a good team
Melted tanks for miles around.
>>339727512
>>339727797
he's in the speed mode the entire time.
>>339724937
>balancing frost mageany excuse to post this
>>339728672
I didn't record it, I just saved it from /owg/
>Ching Chong Tower
>Be Lucio
>99% vs 99%
>final big push for both teams
>I drop the beat
>Mei counters me with her ult
>I dodge her bullshit by wall riding around the wall the entire time, shooting people, distracting the opposing team while healing my own
>kill two of them
>her ult dies and my team comes back to finish them off
>it wins us the game
>Play of the game was Reaper getting two kills and falling off the map
>>339722947
>Symmetra
>useless
Symmetra is really fucking OP on defense maps due to her teleporter. Every time there's a decent Symmetra on my team on defence the attackers either never get to the first fucking point or barely manage to get it during overtime.
Even when competitive play comes out and these shitters barely get out of Challenger they will still shill for shit heroes like D.Va You fags are cancer holy shit.
>>339728642
>>339728642
D.Va can do a maximum of 336 DPS, assuming all pellets hit the head which is extremely unlikely unless you're point blank.
Roadhog fires 1 round per second with crit meatshots doing up to 450. It's also much easier to hit all pellets on D.Va's crit hitbox.
>>339728873
All hank hill ass except Widowmaker 2bh
PHARAH IS CUTE
CUTE
CUTE
>>339728802
>King's Row
>Zarya uses her Ult on the enemy team's final push on last
>I drop down and DIE3 into the mass of clumped up enemies
>Kill four of them
>Play of the game is our McCree who throws a flashbang at them and then finishes off the already critically wounded Winston of the group with Fan The Hammer
How is that PoTG worthy.
>its a Reaper shoots at my feet while I'm jumping and the game awards him with headshot damage episode
>>339729126
Was Winston ulting?
>>339729126
nothing is more meh than a mccree potg
why are there so many people who buy this game and dont bother to atleast try every character once.
>>339729282
>Dude just counterpick
>I'M A GENJI MAIN
>>339729282
Anyone who has a main is a league faggot and needs to hang themselves with their step dad's favorite novelty tie.
>>339722947
The last Zenyatta I played with was like a long range chain saw and ping pong champion. People would walk in, get gifted a discord and instantly die. No one on the team was killed save one try-hard Reaper who kept going it alone outside the temple.
>>339729282
>>339729491
>Anyone who has a main is a league faggot and needs to hang themselves with their step dad's favorite novelty tie.
#1 reason why I hate mobas and love mmorpgs
persistent character where you can customize your playstyle to fit a much larger variety situations than you can in ASSFAGGOTS or Overlol
>>339728437
Funny, usually playing Roadhog, D.va or Symmetra I only die once, maybe twice per match. That if the enemy team decides to full-on rush my position with all they got.
>>339729282
During the beta the brawl was a new hero every time you spawned. That's how I learned who I liked and who I didn't.
>>339729618
why are you even in this thread then?
>>339722947
>abloobloobloo i dunno how to play D.VA
because of faggots like you maybe d.va will be buffed, so i can fuck your team in the ass even faster
gfycat com / SplendidEquatorialCur
>>339724206
and big targets out dps you retard, dva is the lowest damage output "tank"
>>339729491
there's nothing wrong with having a favorite, but don't be too retarded to refuse counterpicking
>>339729815
Favorites and a "main" are completely different.
>Wanna try character I barely used like Widowmaker, Genji or Torb
>Some assholes immediately pick them
>Even on maps where they're almost useless
>Some other guys is cool enough to play Tank
>I get stuck with healing for the 50th time
>Nobody else even considers switching roles
>Tankbro and me fight hard to achieve victory
>Rest of the team does jack fucking shit
>We lose eventually because fuck my team
It's like some of these people don't even like winning.
>>339729781
I don't think I've ever lost to a team with a D.va on it
She's just THAT easy to beat, plus free ult for the enemy team.
>>339724206
Face it. Your waifu is shit. The worst of the worst characters.
>>339722947
Haven't lost a game yet with the Dwarf so I don't know what you're talking about.
>>339727970
>Implying McCuck can flash-fan Mei when she can just spam LShift to Ice Block the instant the stun wears off and then Ice Wall to get away
>inb4 "b-but fan kills her first" - it doesn't, literally every time I get flash-fanned by a McCuck his fan takes too long and I can Ice Block with at least 50 hp left, then heal and wall to disengage
>>339729928
>11
>>339729881
>>I get stuck with healing for the 50th time
Never anon, if your team picks weird choice just go with whatever you want. Never pick something you dont want in pub games with strangers, just practice instead with what you want.
