Is it actually worth getting into the Touhou games? I haven't played many games of that style and would like to give them a try, but don't they involve jumping through hoops to get to play on an American computer?
I see people autisming out over Touhou all the time, and I like the music and cute girls, but how many people actually play the games?
You are not going to enjoy the games if you're not big into shumps. Google beginner shump games.
Or just find the other fan made touhou games that aren't shumps to play. Just find something in the genre you like.
Only worth it for the competitive scene. Other than that, no.
>>339689016
>shumps
If like the shmup genre and good music then Touhou is a good choice and last time i checked you could just download the game and play it, you don't even need applocale. The best way to start is to play EoSD then move up, if you get the chance also play the old ones on PC-98
Yeah, they're great fun. you can find all of the official games on moriyashrine.weebly.com
Start with 6 if you want but I played them from the beginning.Seeing EoSD after playing MS was like an epiphany
>>339689016
Actually, its the opposite
You won't enjoy it if you are big into shumps because of the gimmicks and dumbed down difficulty
>>339688605
>but don't they involve jumping through hoops to get to play on an American computer?
No, not at all. They worked on my computer just fine, even before I switched my system locale to Japanese (which you should do anyway if you plan on playing a ton of Japanese indie game, there's really no downside to doing so aside from occasionally having to change the language of programs back to English.)
Anyway, start with 6, it's the most straightforward, and should give you a good idea of if you'll like the genre or not.
>>339689270But MS is better than EoSD.
>>339689390
What if I like it but fucking suck?
I have fun but can't clear EoSD on easy.
>>339689636I know, I was just talking about graphics.
>>339688605
I'm one of those people and I think it's fun. I usually recommend people to play EoSD first to appreciate the quality of life improvements that each subsequent game brings.
The spinoffs are usually pretty solid, especially the fighting game ones (Before Hidden Masquerade) so give them a shot whenever you feel like. I'm currently playing through Puppet Dance Performance and It's tough picking a team of 6 girls cuz I like so many of them.
>>339689687
Oh ok yeah that's fair.
One thing I can say about ZUN art is that his sprites and backgrounds are actually pretty damn good, and only get better as the series goes on.
>>339689642
Well then yougit gud.
>>339688605
>but don't they involve jumping through hoops to get to play on an American computer?
It's dead easy, you don't have to jump through hoops.
It's babby's first bullet hell too, so you can play it if you're new to the genre
>>339689740
Do the fighting games have campaigns or whatever they're called in fighting games?
I've never played a fighting game before but I'm willing to try any game at least once.
>>339689740
>Before Hidden Masquerade
First off it's Hopeless Masquerade you dumb fucking dork poster.
SecondI had more fun with ULiL than I did with any of the other fighting games.And my main felt more fun to play as in SWR than in Soku. Must be some sort of mechanical difference because she wasn't really nerfed outside of a few minor things.
Dumb fucking secondary Youmufags I swear.
Which game is Mamizou in? I like her for some reason.
>>339689992
She's the extra boss of Ten Desires.
>>339689871
All the fightin games have some sort of story mode, the only one who got the short stick is the Hisoutensoku expansion but even in that case you still get three stories. Hisoutensoku was more about gameplay balance and whatnot anyway
>>339689871
Yes, they do. And they're pretty damn good.
Just don't play them until after you've played the mainline games, it'll make you appreciate the characters more.
>>339689992
She's a boss in Ten Desires (A subpar shmup, but it's fine, and her fight itself is GOAT), a playable character in Hopeless Masquerade (Arguably the worst game in the series) and a playable character in Urban Legend in Limbo (Like HM but actually well made and fun if you're open minded and can accept non-traditional fighters.)
>>339690115
>the only one who got the short stick is the Hisoutensoku expansion but even in that case you still get three stories
>Dumb fuckers who don't realize how fantastic the Soku story is.
Fuck the Soku "balance", game is nowhere near as balanced as you fuckers claim it is.
However, the Soku stories are all fantastic, and unlike the other fighting games never really feel samey. Plus Sanae gets a legit character arc, which is great.
>>339690220
>accept non-traditional fighters
Shit man, I don't even know what a traditional fighter is like.
>>339690220
I really want to fight Mamizou but I can't bring myself to 1cc Ten Desires at all, it's probably my least favorite game of the series. I just find it so utterly boring. Coming down from how utterly perfect UFO was to this shitfest was one of the biggest disappointments of my life.
>>339689871
Yeah they have an Arcade mode.
>I'm willing to try any game at least once
It's been a long time since I've encountered someone with your attitude. I hope you have fun.
>>339690365
Soku story was cute but you only get three characters and what Soku does more is the balance, i would have liked a more fleshed story mode like in SWR but i guess the giant mecha plot wasn't good enough for the entire cast again
>>339690446
>Traditional Fighter
You're on the ground.
>Non-Traditional Fighter
You're flying.
>>339690485
>Coming down from how utterly perfect UFO was to this shitfest was one of the biggest disappointments of my life.
UFO was fucking garbage though.
Like fuck, worst cast, worst ost, worst mechanics, subpar shot types.Ok it wasn't that bad, but honestly I would say that UFO and TD are on the same level. Except TD has a way better Extra.
Does the writing get better in later games or is a lot just lost in translation?
Some of the shit in EoSD is downright nonsensical, haven't played any other yet.
>>339689959
Anon, cut me some slack. I'm working on two hours of sleep here. Have a Patchouli as an apology.
>>339690638
>i would have liked a more fleshed story mode like in SWR
Ok, see, that's your issue.
You're primitive and ignorant mind is mistaking volume for quality.
SWR had a shit ton of stories.
SWR also had a ton of redundancy. You could cut out a good 50% of the story and you wouldn't lose anything of value.
Soku, on the other hand, is more focused, resulting in tighter stories that feel more meaningful than, say, Patchouli's story in SWR.
Plus, each character got a unique final boss, with unique cards and mechanics. That was hype as fuck.
I mean, don't get me wrong, Tenshi's final card is still one of my favorite moments in the entire series, but it gets old after the 5th time you see it, you know?
>>339690658
UFO was really good. Starting with the Ichirunzan fight, all the songs were good. All the bosses and stages were great, just right in terms of difficulty, and very creative. I really liked the UFO gimmick once I got good at it as well. After songs like "Interdimensional Voyage of a Ghostly Passenger Ship" and "Emotional Skyscraper ~ Cosmic Mind" everything that came out in TD was just a disappointment for how generic and soulless it felt.
Not to mention that UFO is one of the only games with an actually emotional and poignant story if you read into it. And while I admit Nue was kinda boring, "UFO Romance in the Night Sky" is the best extra stage song in the entire series.
>>339690887
First: calm your tits primitive
Second: Its a fightin game story, it will always be subpar, you just take it and have fun so by this logic its better to have more characters doing stuff than less and "better", i mean if we want to be serious then yeah every story had a special final battle but the only one that had any reason to exist was Sanae because Meiling and Cirno where more comical than anything and that is a bit of a waste don't you think?
I loved playing touhou, loved all comics made about it and spent hours reading shit about stuff.
Now it feels like I know nothing about anything since I stopped playing snd reading one year ago. So much has happened and too many new characters for me to start liking them again over pearls like Moko or Shikeiki. Shit.
>>339690810
Sorry, anon. I just get mad sometimes for no real reason, don't take it personally.
Have a cute zombie.
>>339690962
I disagree. I found the stage themes to be forgetable, aside from the stage 6 theme which was kind of simple despite sounding nice. The bosses were alright, but the difficulty felt kind of fucked up. Stage 4 is a cake walk for some reason, and then Stage 5 will fuck you up with bullets that are the same color as the background (thanks ZUN.)
>everything that came out in TD was just a disappointment for how generic and soulless it felt.
I think the Stage 3 and Boss 3 music are fantastic, and everything after that ranges from alright to amazing.
>Not to mention that UFO is one of the only games with an actually emotional and poignant story if you read into it.
Nah, that's probably the most overrated aspect of the game. On the surface it's a story about a saint who's followers free her, because she appeals for human and youkai equality. But under that you start to discover a different tale, one of a human who was so afraid of death, that she was willing to compromise her humanity, allow humans to perish, take up dark magic, and take up a hypocritical stance, just for the sake of not dying.
>UFO Romance in the Night Sky" is the best extra stage song in the entire series.
I agree completelyif you ignore Alice in Wonderland, which is actually the best.
>>339691126
>I don't care about the story
Ok got it, your opinion doesn't matter.
>>339691257
>comics made
Goddamn, the sheer amount of shit there is on this makes it seem simply overwhelming for someone to get into
Best girl flying through.
>>339691359
>Nah, that's probably the most overrated aspect of the game. On the surface it's a story about a saint who's followers free her, because she appeals for human and youkai equality. But under that you start to discover a different tale, one of a human who was so afraid of death, that she was willing to compromise her humanity, allow humans to perish, take up dark magic, and take up a hypocritical stance, just for the sake of not dying.
And that's exactly why it's so good. You actually have to read into it, as opposed to "Remilia just wanted to take a walk outside during daylight hours." or "Utsuho stole the sun."
>>339691442
Swoosh!
>>339691396
Just read what you want. It's not like they matter too much.
I started with Eientei 4Koma whose name escapes me and Silent Sinner In Blue so I would recommend those.
>>339689016
>shump
holy fuck
>>339691359
>I don't care about the story
Where the hell i've said that? I just said that i prefer more to "quality", having more characters in the story is better because you actually get a story, in Soku you get 3 different stories but only one matters, come on anon you are better than this
>>339689016
>shmup
Stupid word. STG is better, but really just say scrolling shooter or shooting game.
Why do people say EoSD is better than PCB?
>>339691442
>>339691553
Fantastic taste. Which theme do you prefer?
Magus Night gets my blood pumping.
>>339691512
Well, I suppose so.
I guess I just love final bosses that are morally superior to your character (which is why Eiki is my favorite final boss in the series), and Byakuren just didn't do that for me.
That, and I don't really care too much for the Buddhist faction in general.
>>339691782
Mostly just people with a hard on for the SDM.
In terms of mechanics, shots, cards, stages, and polish, PCB easily trumps EoSD.
I'm gonna marry Marisa!
>name literally starts with "futa"
>is a Tanuki
>Tanuki are known for their ridiculously massive balls
>next to no futa art of of Mamizou
>>339690674
Anyone?
>>339691957
You don't know what Futatsuiwa means, do you?
>>339691847
I guess it depends on how I'm feeling. I listen to a lot of Love-Colored Master Spark and Oriental Dark Flight, but there's just something so emotional about Magician's Melancholy, I just can't help but make it my favorite Marisa theme. It always felt like it represented a side of Marisa that we, the audience, don't really get to see often. A more introspective side of her character.If that doesn't count as a Marisa theme, then The Witches' Ball ~ Magus is my choice, it's a very cute, witchy sounding song.
>>339691924
But anon, I'm already married to her!
>>339692054
Nope.
It's just a wordplay joke, because it does literally start with "futa."
>>339692291
Futatsuiwa means two stones.
>>339692023
EoSD had a notoriously bad translation, the others are a bit better, especially the later games.Then you get to DDC and have to deal with botnet programs for translations and literal 4kids tier translation choices.
>>339692384
I'd let her smother me with her futatsuiwa.
>>339691957
You're not looking in the right places
>>339692487
Me too.
>>339692384
I thought testicle jokes always involved "Tama"
>>339692616
I-is that vore? I don't like vore.Where do I look?
>>339692719
nah, the full cover gives a better idea what you're in for
http://exhentai.org/g/596619/395becb713/
just enjoy the memes and the porn like us OP
>>339692798
>exhentai
Damn it, I'm on my phone right now.
>>339692798
I guess now's the time to finally ask how you use these links.
>>339692719
smelly sweaty tanuki balls
>>339692885
https://hitomi.la/galleries/596619.html
https://nhentai.net/g/92437/
take your pick, mind any malicious ads
>>339693025
Oh dear God, that's pushing all my buttons, only thing that could make it better is hairy armpits.
>>339693026
Thanks friend.
>>339693242
>only thing that could make it better is hairy armpits.you're in for a surprise friend
>>339693332
This is literally perfect, best one I've read in ages, bless you anon.
Is there any more like it? There isn't much focused on her on Nhentai and that's like the only futanari one.
>>339688605
Don't bother, play Cave shooters
>>339693757
that's all i got on call, anything radiohead's done, i got that right on hand
>>339693859
>>339693757https://nhentai.net/g/76586/
Actually the untranslated one still has some extra chapters from guest artists
didnt expect to see a best 2hu girl thread.
>>339693949
>cbt
>actually a shemale and not a futa
Meh
But
>last comic
>Mami has balls
>Reimu doesn't
I don't usually like futa without balls but for some reason that worked incredibly well.
Even if you draw your futas with no balls, Mamizou NEEDS balls because she's a Tanuki.
>>339694181
She's highly underrated.
>>339690365
>game is nowhere near as balanced as you fuckers claim it is
If you're one of those wannabe I-know everything-about-this-fighting-game-but-never-adapted-to-roadblocks-so-it-must-be-broken "experts" that think Yuyuko, Suika, Youmu, Sakuya, or Okuu are legitimately game breaking, delete your post and your life.
Otherwise I'm interested in it.
>>339694673
>in it
*in your opinion as to why you think so
>>339692384
>two stones.
So, the balls
>>339694673
If the thread stays up i expect a shitstorm later
>>339695416
I feel like the mods might object to the discussion of Mami's massive, sweaty, smelly, hairy Tanuki balls when they wake up, so don't count on it.
>>339695563
Good because Touhou discussion on /v/ most of the time end badly anyway so its better like this
>>339695416
Don't get me wrong, I'm not going to claim the balance is perfect or anything. Soku has some pretty good room left for improvement in many aspects like fundamentals and how lenient Border Escape may be in quite a number of situations, just to name a few.
If he's one of those people that can't beat an opponent because he can't improve, then he shouldn't expect to have his opinion on the competitive side of the game to be taken seriously.
So what's a good order for playing/reading/watching Touhou shit?
Obviously EoSD comes first then play the games in order, but what about the spin off games and comics and shit?
>>339696149
Play games
Read mango
Kill yourself
>>339696149
Play the games, then read the manga in order of release. Skip Visionary Fairies in Shrine though, that shit isn't going anywhere and it's legit garbage. Fucking ZUN is losing it.
>>339696323
Are there a lot of mangos? I don't want to kill myself too soon so I hope step two take a long time.
>>339696462
There's a good variety yeah.
Friendly reminder that literally everybody in these /v/ shmup threads is completely shit at the games (excluding yours truly of course).
Friendly reminder that you will never ever be able to pull off the most perfect of all pacifists like I can.
https://a.pomf.cat/gooewh.mp4
Friendly reminder than UFO is tied for worst game in the series along with MoF.
Friendly reminder thatBowl loli & Mikoare the best 2hu's.
Friendly reminder that you will never be a charismatic & skilled player.
Why do you faggots even persist tbqh?
>>339696961
Friendly reminder to report this faggot for shitposting.
>>339696961
>>339694673
Suika is ridiculously strong.
Okuu is for binning shitters only.
>>339691847
Love-colored magic duh
>>339691782
Secondaries.
Mechanically and character-wise IN is the best 2hu game. Unfortunately it's also piss easy.
PCB is the best 2hu overall.
>>339697119
>>339697171
>It's a "shitter shattered casuals chime in" episode.
Pottery.
>>339698259
I could destroy you in PoFV without even breaking a sweat. But you won't. Because you're a shitter.
>>339698259
>>339698326
Congratulations, I've never played PoFV in my life.
I can destroy you in any game that actually matters though, aka all of the mainline games.
Pick your poison.
>>339698616
>PoFV
>Not mainline
Okay, this is your last (you) have a nice evening.
>>339698706
>Some shitty spinoff game that plays nothing like any of the mainline games
>Implying it is mainline
Oh god, my sides are fucking outta here.
>>339688605
>Is it actually worth getting into the Touhou games?
I don't know,it has its ups and downs.
I fell in love with this series and it taught me various things about gaming as a whole (e.g. never drop a challenge,be patient etc).
The downside is that you will have almost no one to talk to about it when you make considerable progress,besides this hellhole that is /v/and /jp/ to some extent.
But even with that,I don't regret getting into 2hu,as it helped me discover I had a hard on for beautiful patterns and seemingly impossible stuff to dodge.
