>poorfag pirates will defend this
That took me back.
>>339688035
HE LITERALLY DOES NOT LOSE MONEY FOR THIS
he spent time and money for that bike, AND HE STILL HAS IT
who was in the wrong here?
The comic is missing a panel where it turns out that the bike is barely functional and falls apart after driving it for fifteen yards
But the shop keeper is in the wrong there.
>>339688035
I'm looking forward to people getting pissy for having 3D printed anime figures that don't cost $100
A second customer walks into the bike store. "I have a lot of money, how much is the bike?" The shop owner glances at the pirate, merrily enjoying his free bike and replies "that'll be 158.99. plus tax."
>>339688661
>Can make 3D printed Dildos
What a time to be alive!
If you believe in piracy you don't believe in capitalism and I want you out of my goddamn country by tomorrow.
>but I don't live in America
Get the FUCK out of my country
Hey I really like your store and the bike, I could make a copy of the bike but because I like it so much I'm going to buy it.
>thanks, remember you can only use it within a 100m radius of the shop and require authentication before using it
>>339688035
That's not really the same thing. The man in the comic created a bike, and even though it happens to resemble another bike, it's a different bike that he created through some sort of poorfag pirate magic.
Pirating a game is more like going to a book store, taking a photo of each page, and claiming that you're in the right for not paying for the book.
>>339688035
someone post the other one
>>339688661
Are 3D printed anime figures even of the same quality as traditional anime figures?
>>339689002
Stop shopping at strawman cycles friend.
>>339688035
I wouldnt hav a problem if they could just admit they pirate becaue is so easy and they are poor or assholes.
Nah its always some bullshit excuse:
>G...guys i want to test if it runs on my Pc i swear
>I always buy the games when i prated them
>>339688457
Clearly the developer of the game for thinking that dialogue would sound deep and clever.
>>339689173
Not even close
They look like shit and 3d printing is not magical like everyone pretends it is
>>339688457
In real life : brave
In nep world : Uni
>>339689336
sorry anon but it appears you have left your tag on from your last thread. Just reminding you that you no longer need it in this thread or any other
>>339689473
Soon™
>>339689336
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgHNtzxO0y8
>>339688035
But they guy is right.
Just because you make him look angry and evil doesn't mean he's wrong.
>>339688374
And he'll never see profit for that lost sale. He's not bitching for losing a bike, he's bitching that people can benefit from his work for nothing.
Not really weighing in on it myself, I'm not gonna waste my time by offering an opinion on /v/, where opinions go to die.
>>339690164
>im not gonna waste my time
>writes a 40 word response
>>339688035
>>339688035
I only pirate because I don't want to support publishers releasing games on PC.
>>339690319
>Typing two small sentences that took eight seconds is a waste of time
>Having such shit attention span and reading comprehension that you stop reading before 'by offering an opinion'
>>339690551
And he keeps going!
>>339688457
I enjoy the shit out of pirated games.
I pirated Arc Rise Fantasia and am enjoying it immensely and I paid for Zestiria and hope bamco kills themselves.
>tfw pirated Minecraft, and it was partially because a friend wanted me to play online with him, and he had the game himself
Kinda felt guilty about it, even though Notch is a greedy jerk. I don't like piracy even if certain companies deserve it.
>>339690548
you generally dont support publishers selling to a media so you protest by pirating?
thats so beyond logic i am actually interested in hearing you explain that
i usually pirate because of extremely bad clientcare from game producers and the game industry being in total shit atm, but because of the media, thats something i havent heard before
I pirate and don't give a fuck Death is inevitable, life has no inherent meaning and there is no afterlife so u can suck my diddle diddle
>>339691078
What the fuck happened. Few years back, /v/ was glorifying piracy, now it's fedora redditors everywhere.
>>339688035
Well yeah, the other guy single handedly begun to create a post-scarcity society. Do anti-pirate fags think this is bad?
>
>>339688035
If a game has not enough content for it's money worth, if it's uninspired and "safe" and made with no passion, if it's a sequel turned casual-as-fuck, if it's got invasive DRM, it's it's got 15 bullshit prices DLC packs and multiple season passes, if it's got P2W micro transactions and a price tag.
If it's got a few of these or more, I will not buy it.
I may pirate it to see how it plays, if I like the look of a certain gameplay mechanic or the story, or if it's a glorified tech demo, etc., etc..
Also I'm running out of money, and I rather be careful what I spend it on.
>>339688035
So if someone 3d prints bike parts he has to pay for it?
>>339688457
>Please buy our games
>>339691193
For some reason they all came out of the woodwork with Denuvo, presumably because gloating about paying exorbitant prices for games by devs with disgusting anti-consumer business practices and DLC moneygrubbing makes them feel better about themselves as people?
>>339691242
>true desu senpai
>>339691337
yes because supplies to 3d print are not cheap
theres a faggot that 3d printed a car, a whole fucking car
does it work? i dont know because as far as i know an engine would need to be metal and would melt the material anyway
i dont know if it works, but he did print a whole fucking car
>>339691242
>Whatever. I wasn't interested in the game anyway
>It's not like one less sale will hurt them
>One person doesn't make a difference
>They don't care about me so why should I care about them
>I know I was just bitching about how morals are wrong but these guys have bad morals about DLC
>everyone pirates, what's the big deal?
>remember: everyone is an asshole but me
>Let me quote a rich person who is bitching about how he got rich
Holy shit dude, I couldn't even get through the whole thing
The ability to spontaneously generate new matter completely destroys our current concept of ownership.
This is why we can't treat digital piracy the same as stealing. It doesn't translate when you can steal something while the creator still has the original copy.
The creator doesn't lose their product. They lose the ability to profit from it.
>>339688035
I'd copy things in real life too if I had the power to.
>>339688035
Nigga, if we could create replicas of physical objects that easily, we wouldn't need money.
Nice false analogy though.
>>339691590
theres a tl;dr for a reason
>>339691545
what about those enabling piracy?
what if i regularly crack games and release them?
i pay for the games and modify them to be able to be pirated
where do i fit in on that list?
>>339691769
The top section, dickhead.
>>339691870
thats the people who download what i upload
sure it fits but im still buying the product in the end to allow piracy
I pirate because it makes me feel like a supa hacka.
>>339689014
>claiming that you're in the right
nah
there are 2 sides in this discussion
>the moralfag
>the pirate
the moralfag wants to have the moral highground, the pirate doesn't care at all.
if you pirate and try to justify it you're a moralfag.
>>339688035
>can copy anything
>somehow the concept of money still exists
Retarded.
>>339692159
i pirate because i invest extra money into dev hardware
i already pay 50-75% more for the system than the retail price at any given point because it allows me to reign free without modding
>>339691242
Holy fuck
>>339688035
If the bike owner really wanted to make money, he would have offered a chance to win a lottery with every purchase of his bikes.
>>339690164
He lost NOTHING
You can't prove that the guy would have bought the bike if he couldn't copy it
You can't prove that the guy would have stolen the bike if he couldn't copy it
Oh damn you have shown me
>guy leaves an apple in the middle of the road
>some bloke picks it up and eats it
>yo wtf bro that was my apple and you need to pay for it
>>339688035
>thinking about lost money when a dude just demonstrated actual magical replocating powers
>>339690164
>LOST SALE >:(
If I were a wizard with copying powers I sure as fuck would copy every bike for myself. I already have one and I'm fully aware I don't even like riding bicycles, but why not try since it's free and morally sound?
I wouldn't ever purchase a single bike so you can't call it a lost sale.
>>339693724
So the bike you already have is stolen
Thus you are a nigger
Hello nigger im whitey
>>339688457
>when there's no reward, nobody will want to create!
Just like nobody wanted to create linux and shitload of open source software.
>>339688785
This. China is pretty much the piracy/IP theft/etc etc capital of the world, pirates can move there if they hate capitalism so much.
>>339688374
You are not entitled to a game if you don't want to pay for it. That's not how licensing works. You don't get to act entitled for something because you wouldn't have bought it otherwise.
>>339694070
Or any "real" art.
>>339694218
You're not entitled to spy on me and gather my purchasing habits either.
Also you are entitled to try before buy.
>>339691242
>STOP FORCING YOUR OPINION ON US, WE DONT CARE WHAT YOU THINK
>BUT THIS INFOGRAPH EXPLAINING HOW MUCH I DONT CARE TOOK SEVERAL HOURS TO MAKE, JUST IGNORE THAT PART, IT DOESNT MEAN I CARE WHAT YOU THINK AT ALL
>>339688035
I miss demos.
Can anyone remember why demos for games stopped being a common thing?
>>339688035
Hate is a strong word but I REALLy REALLY REALLY don't like pirates.
>>339691337
Is there some patent protecting that bike part? Then yes. If you started selling clones of Macbooks, you'd be shut down even though you're not stealing anything from Apple. It's still 100% illegal.
>>339688457
Get this garbage out of my face.
>>339690551
>I'm n-not mad! I used a reaction image!
>>339694373
No, you are NOT entitled to try before you buy. Also, just don't buy something if you don't like DRM.
When you resort to piracy to protest the publishers/game devs, they see no reason to change their behavior because they don't see someone who would be a paying customer anyways. If you just don't buy the game and dont play it at all, they see someone voting with their wallet who would become a customer again if they offered something they would want to buy.
>>339694758
Also to add, Steam and Origin offer refunds now. The "try before you buy" argument really is a shit justification. Just admit you don't care about the ethics of it.
>>339694070
Or the entirety of the modding community as a whole.
>defending piracy
There's nothing to defend.I do it because I can and I couldn't care less about what you think of me
>>339694218
I am not entitled to feel bad for anyone either.
>>339694070
Open source software is not mainstream for a reason.
Stop trying to force communism on society. Game developers have the freedom to not work for profit if they want to, you have the freedom to support them. Do you know why that model is always dwarfed by for profit enterprises? Because profit is better at motivating people.
>>339694903
This is what's weird to me
I couldn't give half a shit what anyone thinks about what I'm doing here, not to get all first world preachy but anyone with the luxury to pirate has a comfy enough life thanks to the suffering of less fortunate people.
I already don't give a shit about any of those people, why should I give a shit about pirating?
>>339695010
All this fucking talk of "being free to do what you want" and everyone still misses the point.
DO WHAT YOU FUCKING WANT AND ACCEPT THE CONSEQUENCES!FEEL MUH AUTORITAH!
>if you're not an impatient child, you can get games for $5-$10 or less on Steam if you wait long enough
>you can try before you buy because most digital stores like Steam offer refunds
>people actually think that being poor and not being able to try before you buy are legitimate justifications for piracy
>>339695010
At our hearts we really are Ferengi.
I used to pirate all the time when I was a poor teenager but now that I have a job and play mostly multiplayer games instead of single players RPGs, I don't mind paying for them.
Seriously, who gives a shit if someone else steals something. All that resulted out of it was shit like Denuvo and more online only games, and if that really bothers you to the point of frothing anger, you need to sort your life out.
>>339694758
>You are not entitled to try it out before purchase
Who determines that? You?
>Clothing
>Cars
>Software
>Hardware
I dont know what happens where yo,y live, but over here in the EU we ARE entitled to a 30 days no-questions-asked refund period. Shit dealers like Steam just want to abuse international law in order to sell products in the EU while obeying none of its laws, which is downright immoral.
TL/DR: it is European law to have refund entitlements for trying shit out for 2~4 weeks. It follows that all business practices (excluding consumables) should adhere to those requisites.
>>339690164
Potential Profit doesn't exist.
I don't fucking care.
Abandonware?
I will pirate it
Older than 12 years?
I will pirate it
Indie and new?
I will pirate it
I will buy it if I find a cheap physical copy at the supermarket.
Or if I accidentaly have enough money on paypal.
Developers can suck my dick
>>339695183
>Waiting up to 3 years for a AAA game to drop that
>Steam refund isnt working
Fuck off, Ill pirate what I like.
>>339694758
And who made YOU king of the world? Fuck off.
>>339688035
Haven't pirated anything in years since it's less hassle getting games for <5€ at steam sales.
But to all pirates out there: keep it up bros, I remember being one of you.
>>339695334
The person that determined it is the publisher. Some of them do let you try before you buy by offering refunds or demos. If you don't like it, protesting by not buying and not pirating is much more effective than protesting by pirating.
>EU law
>international law
Pic one. It's only international in a small group of countries, not even all of Europe, just the EU, and there's a ton of exceptions for member states for a lot of things anyways. It's nowhere near "international law".
>>339695454
>>339695446
>hurr fuck off
Why can't pirates handle criticism? Is it because they have the emotional maturity of teenagers if they are not already actual teenagers?
>>339696097
How about don't act like you're worth shit. Maybe I'll spend more time on you next time then.
>>339695446
>AAA games are worth playing
>they all are not the same fucking "open world cinematic experiences" with no risks taken during development
When I was younger and in school and poor, yes I pirated games. Now, with my job and money in my wallet i don't pirated anymore, but I still don't buy shitty games.
>>339696007
Are you fucking dense?
Steam (for example) adheres to whatever country's laws depending on where they set up office. This is what I meant : that they can sell products and services worldwide without paying heed to the sovereignty of the state they're practicing business in.
Thats incredibly arrogant and immoral. It can only he sone because the internet is a relatively new and unregulated thing - no other business model (not based online) can pull this kind of shit and is thus held accountable to the same laws.
But suddenly, we're talking digital goods, and THE DEVELOPER picks and chooses whichs laws to treat all their customers with? From Sweden to sri-lanka, THE DEVELOPER has more power to decide which laws affect its business model?
Are you actually retarded or do you just eat shit for breakfast? With a shovel, perhaps?
>>339696304
Clearly I think I'm king of the world because I think you're not entitled to free shit. You sound really underage.
Think of it this way, if I cloned you would you have any right to the clone?
No you wouldn't you'd either have to buy your own cloning machine or pay 1000 for genetically identical organs yourself
If you "consume" or gain access media in any way unintended by the legal owner of the media you are committing a crime that is punishable.
Committing crimes=anti-social=immoral
Gamefly allows for cheap rentals
Steamsales allow for saving on PC games
Go to a friends house and play his copy(I literally do this when I want to test out a game)
>mfw jesus pirated fish and bread
>>339696618
Ain't that a pickle.
>>339696643
Why would I even want any rights to my clone? I am useless.
>>339696563
>the internet should be regulated
This is why your continent is crumbling. The nanny state is ALWAYS worse than the free market. You could simply protest buy not pirating or buying games until developers do what you want them to, but no, you're an impatient little shit with an entitlement attitude.
>>339696741
>>339696741
Sure, but wouldn't you want an extra heart just in case?
Also at this point is anyone in any of these even passionate about piracy. I genuinely think these threads have become an efficient shitpost engine.
>B-BUT THE DEVELOPER SHOULD CHOOSE WETHER YOURE ENTITLED TO TRYING ITS PRODUCT OUT OR NOT!
EU legislation:
All goods(except consumables) and service providers must give their customers a no-questions-asked 2~4 weeks refund window where the buyer can ascertain the qualities of the product and return it for a full refund for WHATEVER reason.
>Internet products (read: digital goods only because theyre literally goons) salesmen should be entitled to be the exception
How can people defend this?
>all these moralfags trying to say pirating is bad
but why? its not like they're affecting you all
I haven't pirated games in a few years but when I did it was usually because I knew I wouldn't like it anyway. For example, I pirated Fallout 3 because I haven't enjoyed a Bethesda game ever, but my friends claimed this time it was different and they had truly made a great game - 20 minutes after installing, I deleted that shit right the fuck off my hard drive.
Honestly can't remember the last game I downloaded, it's been forever. I've even stopped pirating music in the past few years, most of the artists/bands I enjoy are pretty small time and need the dough.
>>339694573
>>Is there some patent protecting that bike part? Then yes.
Why?
>>339696710
And god just let him.
Talk about nepotism.
>>339696759
Fuck off. Either the law applies to all or none. Next step: regulate ALL cayman islands transactions and off-shores so that we can end corruption.
>>339696973
On the other hand
>Piracy is OK because you're not stealing physical goods, they're just copies
>But digital retailers should be held to the same laws as physical good sellers
Sometimes I pirate and sometimes I buy, sometimes I do both.
Just stop being faggots you faggots, you don't really have a moral high ground for doing either, or both.
I still don't understand the obsession with being this self-conscious about this matter.
>>339697104
Why do you think I'd disagree with that? That'd be a good thing as well.
>>339697086
Because patents are protected for a good reason. They incentivize people to invent new things because they are allowed to profit from them. How many socialist countries have to fail before people realize this?
>>339696759
Maybe internet goods providers should stop being fucking Machiavellian pieces of shit always trying to dodge the law, huh?
Make it international law for digital sales to adhere to every country's laws no matter where they have their headquarters . BAM. No need for "nanny" state as you so describe.
It's appaling how much corporate cocksucking you people endure on a daily basis.
>>339696097
>criticism
Pardon me Sir, are you aware that what you are doing isn't criticism but rather an attempt to act as if you have some higher moral ground while your robbed?
To be honest, I don't understand your mentality in the slightest. I suppose I could swallow a few paint chips and try to see it at your level but Id rather go on enjoying the games I've gotten for free, or even better, off your dollar.
With that in mind, Thank you for your support of the video industry with your hard earned dosh. I'll make sure every penny is put good to good use.
Attached is an image you can fully purchase for a sum of said dosh, just five dollars.
Don't forget. if you find the image online while I'm selling it and you enjoy the product you are a dirty thief.
Good day.
>>339697254
>>Because patents are protected for a good reason. They incentivize people to invent new things
No, they incentivize corporations who have infinite money to steal things from the people and then "protect" them so the people can't steal for them. Next.
I pirate because I'm poor. I don't brag or think it's better. It's actually a hassle desu.
>>339697329
>complains about corporations not following the law
>doesn't follow the law himself
Stop trying to justify your actions. You have no ethical justification for this.
>>339688035
I don't pirate anymore. I don't even have the time to play the games I can easily afford, so what would be the point.
Last thing I pirated for was the DS.
>>339693080
>>guy leaves an apple in the middle of the road
no one does this
>guy grows an apple tree in his yard
>some bloke hops over his fence and takes an apple off of the tree
>yo get the hell out of my yard
>>durr if you dont want me to take it, you shouldnt grow your tree in plain sight
>guy puts a greenhouse around his tree and gets a bigass guard Dognuvio
>>durr you're just making it harder for customers to buy your apples. That shit was mealy anyway
>guy continues to sell apples at the market
>>339688035
First off, pirating doesn't really effect sales. People on 4chan and similar sites just forget how relatively out of the normie crowd they are. The Cowadoodys and the Stellaris' will never have a significant dent made into their income because pirates represent a stark minority of players.
If you are a pirate and were never going to pay for the game if you could not find a pirated version of it, then that is not a lost sale.
There is nothing wrong with trying something out before buying, you just need to make sure you adhere to your own morals about it.
Personally I buy my games since I am picky and hate dealing with slow torrents and like playing multiplayer.
>>339697060
B-but t-the lost sales means the d-devs didn't make e-enough money a-and can't continue on.
W-wait, what d-do you mean the game was s-shit and had horrible d-dev practices? I-It didn't sell well b-because y-you didn't s-support the devs!
>>339697114
Nope, that's a strawman. But its okay. I never told you what my position was, right?
My position is that piracy is "excusable" while digital products salesmen continue to be such fucking goons, doing whatever they can to stay on the unregulated grey side of the law. The side where they can habitually fuck ou over and deny you rights because the world still isnt prepared to deal with the internet.
My ideal proposition is one where both piracy and digital service providers shady practices stop existing all together.
See? I dont defend piracy should exist . I defend both piracy and digital media platforms in their current form should die.
>>339697350
Not that guy, but I've never seen anybody so mad.
erotic picture, though. nice!
>>339697421
t. High school socialist
>>339697350
You want to understand my mindset? It's like how people who actually studied in school get mad that cheaters get the same grades without the work. I don't understand piracy one bit, being patient and buying games during sales and ONLY buying games that you will play instead of building a giant backlog is cheaper than paying for a VPN and stuff to get away with piracy.
>>339688035
I pirate because i can, i don't defend it
Free stuff yo
>>339688457
Creating stories and art for a living has been a noble pursuit since ancient times.
If we all adopt the idea that this only should be a sparetime endeavor, then we'll just get worse art and worse stories.
But isn't the end game, when we have plenty of food and energy, to have better stories and better art?
>>339697503
>Doesnt follow the law.
Says who? See? You're making the samr mistakr those digital goods sellers make: you're applying a blanket law to all your customers. Where I live, its NOT against the law to download/ torrent.
>>339688035
>Pic related
Actually, there's nothing wrong with physically copying a physical item, by making a mockup of it, then just using it for yourself. The idea is "free" (because you can see it), while you pay for the materials and make it (free labor).
So in the case of pic related, there's nothing wrong with it. Say I wanted to make a doghouse for my dog, and I go to Petsmart or something to copy one of the design of a doghouse they have in stock. After figuring it out, I go and buy the materials somewhere to make said doghouse. There's nothing "pirate-y" about that scenario.
Although there are those who want it to not be free, even if it's for personal use only. They're the problem in society.
But for other things, like non-tangible intellectual properties (ie ideas), it's wrong. Like games, for example. The materials (software, etc.) you can either get free or buy it from a 3rd party (making it a non-factor), leaving the idea as the only thing of value--that is what the devs are selling. How the game was put together, the art/graphics, how technology was used, and the experience.
It's the same thing with movies and music. They're selling you the experience, the entertainment, etc.
TL;DR: Your example is stupid.
>>339688035
Like if I need to defend myself.
What the fuck are you going to do if my argument aren't good enough? Track my ip and then make me pay for all the game I've been pirating?
>>339697568
I know what he said was retarded, but you didn't have to play his game by being more retarded.
>>339697660
To be honest, patents have been abuses in the last 15 or so years.
See: petrol companies buying out electrical cars/engines patents and holding them ransom for 10 years (however long patents last without you doing anything with them).
>>339697587
And my position is that your position will NEVER get the industry to change.
>someone pirates game while complaining about the industry
>industry sees someone who will just pirate their game no matter what, sees it as a more worthwhile investment to make their DRM more intrusive
>someone refuses to buy a game
>industry sees it as a worthwhile investment to cater to them if there's enough people like that (and given that how many pirates exist, if they played by the rules then change WOULD happen)
It's like how Microsoft depends on piracy to prevent competition from arising. As long as people pirate Windows instead of using a free competitor, those free competitors will never get the third party support Windows has and Microsoft can continue to be as draconian as they want.
>>339697792
HeIlo Reddit, this site is for people over 21.
>>339697690
This. Just fucking embrace it, why make excuses and shit
I can do it and easily so im gunna
>>339697841
just telling it like it is, bruh
What if I believe that games\movies\music is supposed to be art, and turning art into business is immoral?
>>339697660
>It's like how people who actually studied in school get mad that cheaters get the same grades without the work.
So you're mad at the corporations exploiting laws for their criminal actions and being above legal scrutiny while fucking over the honest people then?
>>339697934
Yes. I'm also mad at the pirates too. I can be mad at both. This thread is about pirates, not le ebul business/1% though.
>don't mind me, just copying this glass of water
It doesn't matter now that piracy is dead. One version of Denuvo may get cracked, but that won't stop the next version, and the one after that.
>>339697710
US copyright law can be enforced almost anywhere that has Internet access.
>>339698057
>piracy is dead
>every game made from now on will use Denuvo
>>339697756
This.
If he could actually do what he does in that comic, he's totally allowed to do so, provided he doesn't sell any of them.
>>339698013
Well, perhaps you should start at the source then. The fish stinks from the head as they say.
>>339698078
However, it isn't.
>>339697710
What do you mean torrenting is legal? Torrenting is legal in the vast majority of countries because it has legal uses. Violating copyright being legal is what laws you should be showing me.
>>339698057
What's that got to do with anything though?
Fun fact
Piracy is one of the only ways to reasonably preserve games.
You know those games you loved but were taken off of XBL Steam or PSNor Origin
Everything that can be lost, will be lost if you don't take the steps to make a copy that can be used on any system at any time in the future.
Piracy is also preservation. One just supports the notion of prepping for the future.
As we move forward to a more digital age, the lack of physical mediums to archive that data or access it becomes more scarce. If you dont pirate to preserve, you dont care for the future and what it could hold.
I wouldn't have bought the game anyway, so why should I give a shit.
There's literally no loss for the seller in the least.
>>339698117
>every game made from now on will use Denuvo
G L O R I O U S
>>339688035
>Poorfags
Do you already regret your Overwatch purchase?
>>339698270
Doesn't mean you should still be able to get it for free.
>>339698161
No, I'm still going to hate pirates first, because customers or the lack thereof are responsible for who is successful on the market. Pirates just incentivize things like DRM. If they all banded together and protested shitty DRM and things like that, the game industry would be a lot better. But they don't, they resort to piracy because they're just entitled.
>>339698261
Oh yeee?
I just pirate when I'm broke, if I have the money I buy the game.
Don't worry pirates, you can go read a book instead and educate yourselves.
>>339698319
i refunded it actually
>>339698358
i bought a lot of games after pirating. if i enjoy it i buy it
>>339697890
>not giving a fuck about beta moralfag is now a reddit behavior
fucking retard
>>339698270
>wasn't going to buy it, but I'll play the game til the end :^)
Here comes the faggot
>>339691545
I pirate because I can.
If I could pirate tangible things as well, I would
At all times, I aim at minimizing of cash I lose and piracy is exactly this.
>>339698416
>being this defensive
Spotted the underage mommy boy.
>>339698350
>because customers or the lack thereof are responsible for who is successful on the market.
Yes, this is why the most pirated media is most successful overall.
Oh wait.
>If they all banded together
So, communism?
>>339698261
Thanks for reminding that dawngate is dead and my only chance of playing it is in a dota 2 custom map and it will never be completed
>>339698536
arite m8
>>339694741
Who are you quoting?
Now that nobody can crack Denuvo. We will tell our children's children there was a time when video games were free.
>>339698549
Banding together is not communist in and of itself, group boycotts are an integral part of capitalism as well. Communism has more to do with the communal ownership and explicitely banning the profit motive.
>hurr durr the most pirated games are the most well selling games
No shit. Popular games are popular among both groups of people. But companies spend so much money on DRM because they've done a lot of research that shows it protects their revenue more than it costs them to implement it, or else they wouldn't do it. If piracy was a virtual non issue, they would see investing in DRM as a loss and wouldn't do it.
>>339698610
>dawngate
i played the shit out of that
im now friends with the head visual designer for visuals and characters. he wants it back too. he never got to play the game he made because he put so much effort into making it.
this is a prime example of what you should do for piracy. server emulation would have saved it, but nobody took the time and EA pulled it before we could analyze how it worked.
and then throw in the PT nonsense too
>>339698761
Haha, who's children, again?
In any case, all of our children will be playing F2P shit on their phones, so they'll THINK video games are free.
>>339698785
Like I said my best chance of enjoying it again is that dawngate custom map in dota 2
>>339698761
>denuvo
securom wants a word with you
>>339698862
>who's
I of course mean whose.
Excuse me.
>>339698926
>all these words
I've only been buying DRM free for PC for over five years now. What's Denuvo and Securom?
>>339698921
Faris Mina and Lilin here
Who were your mains?
Tell me anon
>>339689173
Not at all but you can get damn close if you have skill in customs.
>>339688035
>someone buys game
>mods it and adds crack
>this is stealing
>>339694070
You realize that people actually do get payed for making Linux and free software right?
>gift a game to someone on s/fur
>turns out that they had pirated the game and were using me to "pay for the game because they liked it"
>>339700061
Also, WHO THE FUCK PIRATES AN OBVIOUSLY-AMAZING GAME THAT'S $10 AND GOES TO $1 EVERY FEW MONTHS
>>339688035
How was the shop owners bike created? Did he pay for it?
If copying bikes out of thin air was real, why would you build them using labor and ressources?
>>339700061
>ever paying for other people's video games
What the fuck, man.
in any other business it would be considered a problem on the part of the producers, that they are unable to protect their property. No one can be surprised that if humans can get away with getting a bunch of shit for free they will take that chance.
>>339700061
I bet you donate money to girl streamers as well, faggot.
>>339694373
>You're not entitled to spy on me and gather my purchasing habits either.
Ever heard of cash?
>>339701013
Ever heard of windows?
>>339694070
>Nobody makes money off of producing open source software.
>>339701147
I prefer linux myself
>>339701013
>Windows knows whether or not I payed, how and when I payed.
>>339694070
People do get paid to make that shit though
>>339701406
its part of the botnet and telemetry
granted to only makes an impact to people like me but its very much a real thing
>>339691078
>Notch is a greedy jerk.
Why is that?
>>339701406
>>339701575
If it smells like spyware, and looks like spyware, then WIN10 is SPYWARE. Zero exaggeration of the definition.
>>339701684
He just jealous he can't be a billionaire and shitpost on Twitter all day while offending SJW's who complain that he doesn't fund their games.
>>339701740
it hurts but i have to for what i do.
i dont have a choice without abandoning the hobby
>>339701281
I meant actual windows, throw yourself out of one.
I keep pirating Bethesda games but they're not out of business yet, what's going wrong? Why haven't my 25 million downloads of Fallout 4 put them out of business?
>>339701818
Well he can be. He is.
The last burn he served regarding mansplaining was great.
>>339701854
Whats the hobby?
>>339701575
>>339701740
I'm talking about cash purchases...
>>339698753
your state of mind
>>339701930
Preserving video game prototypes and data.
I have a build that requires win10 to be able to function and theres no way around it.
its actual sufferingthe DR4 rumors are real, and i wish that shitter on neogaf didnt break the silence
>>339701941
botnet will be able to tell if you actually did. it's that detailed anon
>>339688035
>be a poorfag
>try to steal something you want because you are too poor to pay for it
>too lazy to work to buy what you want
>go to steal it
>clerk or store owner pulls out a shotgun
>poorfag gets GG'd
>parents cry crocodile tears
>know you were a worthless faggot
>>339702025
Build a second pc without internet for it, or unplug the internet for it.
Or use a VM.
>>339702071
your baiting a specific /pol/ related reply huh
>>339702025
How will it be able to tell who and when the cash purchase was made?
And if not, how could that be used to gather info on purchasing habits like this thieving fella,
>>339694373
is complaining about
>>339702071
>comparing copying a certain arrangement of replicatable 1s and 0s to removing a unique physical arrangement of molecules
vacate my home planet post-haste.
>>339702174
i play it without any internet connection, its the only safe way
>vm
im gonna need a more powerful system to run it in a VM. shit already takes more than half of my cpu ram and graphics card power on its own just loading.
>>339702232
im not here to educate you im here to warn you
>>339702175
>bating for grammar nazis
huh
>>339688035
I do this all the time. Fucking bike shop fags don't know what hit em.
>>339702289
Seems like you're full of shit when trying to justify your thieving ways
>>339688035
Charing 79 dollars for a 15 dollar bike, and people wonder why this happens.
Look at Britney Spears! She wanted to buy a Private Jet Mark 7 but she had to settle for a Private Jet Mark 5 thanks to you dirty piratefags!
>>339688035
Piratefags are ruining gaming
>>339698478
this
>>339702175
>thinking its bait
welcome to what happens outside of your computer, worthless government support suckling faggot
>>339702389
Sources: My ass^[1]
>>339695010
So we should buy games even when the games are shit?
No that is fucking stupid and you're a fucking moron. They don't get to just ask for my money and expect me to hand it over. If they want my money they had better make something worth my money. If they don't, I'm just going to pirate or buy it second hand and they can go fuck themselves. If they were really interested in profits they'd try to please the consumer.
>>339695010
>open source forces communism on society
Book chute pls
>>339694070
>No one gets paid for open source software
>Its not a good way to pimp out a CV
The debat is stupid because just looking at the numbers piracy doesn't impact sales at all.
And it doesn't matter because piracy is pretty much dead, current gen consoles can't play copied games yet and denuvo is used more and more.
Piracy, big deal indead.
valve killed piracy
>>339698478
this is the only reason at all aside from those of you who are too young to even have a job or just too fucking lazy
when it comes to the generation today, it falls under "too fucking lazy"
dont deny it
>>339688035
Yeah they may not lose money from one person making a copy of the bike but if suddenly everyone just made a copy of the bike without supporting the person who makes it then the person who makes it will no longer make bikes because they cant afford to, the bikes will just be of poor low-grade quality (modern AAA games)
>>339702616
>just looking at the numbers
sources pls
>doesn't impact sales
credentials pls
>>339702731
But most people don't know how to copy bikes anon
>>339694758
>When you resort to piracy to protest the publishers/game devs, they see no reason to change their behavior because
That's the funny part, they never see a reason to "change their behavior". In fact they look every second of every day for a way to milk their customers more.
And Video-games are not washing powder, it's an entertainment business and as a musician myself I don't do it for the money, just knowing that all over the world people listen to my shit or when I play live is reward enough. In fact it's fucking magical. And that's the "right" mentality if there is one at all.
The industry is jewified and disgusting and no morally sane person would give a shit about those multi-billion $ corporations.
If you are really worried about their money why don't you go ahead and send Activision some money? They could buy new bumper stickers for their jet fleet!
>>339702662
valve killed pc gaming
>>339702785
Still, enough people have the tools there to do it.
If you're too poor to afford a game, get a job or borrow it off a friend. If you know you're not going to buy it, dont pirate it.
Capitalism falls apart when it comes into contact with post-scarcity issues such as piracy.
>>339702731
>blaming bad AAA games on pirating
What kind of level 4 turbo cuck logic loops are you using?
>>339703034
Yeah those AAA titles are really bleeding money
Soon they might not be able to afford several millions in marketing + paying off reviewers!!!
WHAT A HORRIBLE FUTURE GOD IM SO SORRY
>>339702731
t. Indie dev
I pirate everything because I don't want to waste any money in something so trivial like a videogame or a fucking tv show.
What are you going to do about it you little shits?
>>339703035
They're not going to put the effort, time and money into games if people will just pirate them get bored and not even pay.
>>339703035
I-if anything, piracy helps the industry!
>>339703123
So because a small portion of your sales population might "steal" the product you just give up all effort and make shit products because muh feels? Sounds to me like the company should go out of business anyway if they are gonna be moody little bitches that make bad products
Please kill yourself
Hope you all pay for your porn too.
>>339703117
My nigga. Why pay for something I can get for free with minimal effort. Just a bunch of clicks and I can play free vidya. If my ISP doesn't care about it, why should I?
>>339703034
Piracy was always there for every medium, and they always bawwwl'd their eyes out that the industry will die now.
But oh wonder every medium has always only shown growth. Ever. It's growing every year since decades and people still fall for the myth and feel sorry for those disgusting jews.
6 MILLION! PIRACY IS KILLING VIDEO-GAMES, WE ARE TOO POOR TO MAKE THEM NOW!
Only the biggest idiots would fall for that shit, and looky here the planet is full of fucking idiots.
>pirate undertale
>play through it
>shit sucks
>have immense satisfaction that I didn't give a cuck my money for a bad product
>>339703160
It does tho, you incredible cretin. Or how would you explain the ever steady growth? I mean I'm sure you can do basic math, right?
So riddle me this, Timmy has a soda stand, and he claims that he loses money, but when we look on his bank account it's saying that he is getting more and more money, every day.
How can that be? Is Timmy lying?
>>339703464
>Pirating /v/'s game
leave. now.
>>339703598
woah there don't hurt yourself
>>339703603
>/v/'s game
It's a one playtrough story RPG for the "le Erthbund" crowd
>>339703284
Its not that they cant make the games because of "muh feels" but they cant because if the game recieves good reviews, more people are likely to pirate it because they either want to:
1. Play but not have to pay for because there poorfags
2. See how it runs on their PC to see if they would have to upgrade their PC which they cant afford because they're, you guessed it POORFAGS
If you made something that took time and money to make but a small amount of people took it copied it and shared that copy again and again with others you'd be pretty pissed off because thats you're livelihood that they're taking from you.
>ITT Socialists that think they have a right to own things that they haven't payed for.
>>339703598
Timmy lied for sympathy and advertising for his business!
>>339703692
what a fucking kike
Piracy was the ultimate defense by game makers/publishers for bad sales, always lying about lost revenue. Fucktards eat pr talk.
>>339703676
>If you made something that took time and money to make but a small amount of people took it copied it and shared that copy again and again with others you'd be pretty pissed off because thats you're livelihood that they're taking from you.
The problem is that this never happened.
That's the rule of the free market, if you got a good product that people want it will sell.
The only exception to that rule is plain and simply bad luck or faulty advertising.
You are a moron basically.
>>339703676
You are the biggest corporate cuck I've ever seen
Bravo
>>339703603
You mean tumblr's game, stupid frogposter.
>>339703676
Are you implying if I purchase a video game I own it?
>>339703849
>You are a moron basically.
>>339703907
>corporate cuck
Top ad-hominem guys. Just accepted it you can't argue with my logic so you result insulting my character.
Pitiful.
>>339703692
Correct!
>>339704031
Because you talk like a fag and your shit's all retarded.
If you post inane anti-consumer dumbass shit, guess what? People will treat you like a dumbass.
>>339697060
They do affect us. It encourages shitty PC ports and DENUVO.
>>339704031
>you can't argue with my logic
BWAHAAHAHAAH
also these >>339703598
>>339703326
But the bike wouldn't exist if the person didn't create it first.
The copier is still contingent upon the original creator.
In a weird way, the pirate is actually stealing from other consumers. Since no studio would develop a game if it was just going to be taken without compensation. The only reason piracy doesn't "harm" anyone is because there are a lot of people willing to actually pay for it.
Basically, pirates are the "free riders" of society, leeching off other peoples labor and effort.
>>339704031
The fuck are you talking about? The argument is right there, above me calling you a moron, you moron.
