>mfw Star Fox Zero failed
I was disappointed as soon as they showed gameplay
Shiggy should just stick to Pikmin
>>339653441
Don't lie. You enjoyed a shitty Zelda clone with worse flying sections.
>>339653172
And the cancer thread revives itself!
Good maybe nintendo will soon learn that doing the same thing over and over again doesn't work anymore and actual innovation is the name of the game now in the industry.
>>339653441
This tbqh.
Though more accurately, i got disappointed when shiggy started the whole... "when i was little". Blah blah blah shrines.
I knew he'd do 64 again only safer, with odd controls all wrapped up in the shallowness that was the wii u.
And i was right, not even platinum could save it.
64 is way funner than Zero. Zero is a shallow attempt at 64.
Nintendo's last hope is Zelda Wii U
>>339655153
And NX*
>>339654401
It makes for good reaction images
Bought it, havent played it. Probably wont for a while, just did it to support the game.
>>339658504
That doesn't even make sense
>>339654401
At least Adventures was more fun than Zero, even Assault is better and that game is linear.
>>339656791
>yfw Adventures did much better than Zero in its first week
>>339658504
You're precisely what's wrong with the industry.
>>339661586
To be fair, it was either it got some support, or it died off. Regardless Zeros failure should result in this sort of rehash never happening again.
>>339661390
Lol
think they will ever try again
or will they decide to fuck f-zero up next
>>339654887
Star Fox has almost literally taken over the Zelda cycle
>Game comes out and is liked
>Sequel comes out
>People complain it's not like previous game
>Sequel comes out that is like original game
>People complain it's not different enough
>>339653172
not big surprise
Maybe if the artstyle didn't look fuckoff atrocious it'd stand a chance.
Also if they put Krystal in the game again then they fucked up right there. Note to self: keep Rare's grubby hands off your IP if you don't want furries to jack off to it.
>>339666379
Nobody likes Command though
>>339660745
who the fuck is autistic enough to make an entire chart as to you should dislike a game
>>339667623
Krystal is perfect, not Date's fault Shiggy wanted to turn her game into a Star Fox game
>>339661390
>Star Fox Adventures (N64)
Pretty good chart
>>339667991
>Date's
Rare's*
>>339667623
>Implying they havent been since before Adventuresyou seriously cant be that retarded to not notice all the faggot shit
>Implying her appearing on top of the rest of the girls would save the game from death
>>339658504
Nintendo drones in a nutshell.
>>339667971
He made a chart talking about how the game is bad.
It's simpler to read than a game review.
What's the problem here?
>>339653172
>rail-shooter
>2016
Who thought this would be a good idea?
>>339660745
Wow you have to search for the collectable medals that are meant to be hard to get.
WHAT BULL SHIT
>>339660745
Really, linearity aside its not a bad game
The controls work once you get used to them and the combat is fast faced and fresh
>>339668451
Drones in general.
i cant believe people bought that pile of shit of fallout new vegas, its basically a crashfest full of emptiness and missing content.
>inb4 its better than Fallout 3 and 4
saying something its better than garbage its not saying too much.
>>339669832
>Fast paced
>Somersault to win
>Slow as shit
>Implying the controls work even if you get used to them
Its kind of fun now that im over it. No macbeth is awful though i hate it
why doesn't nintendo just make good games?
>>339670139
worked fine for me
I had it pre-ordered and ended up canceling the pre-order because I found out about mandatory motion controls like a week before release.
Only time I've ever canceled a pre-order.
>>339670621
>Forced a gimmick into the game for the sake of it
>Zero is just another tech demo game since MIyamoto is up his ass about needing to force gimmicks into any game he's involved in
>Nintendo EPD ever making a good game
>Platinum if they actually made the game themselves would've made it substantially better in every single way, not just in gameplay, but also not rehashing the same stupid plot you already know 20 years ago
>Do add that they would've easily made the game popular in japan by going all out with every single female in the game, Kstt, Krystal, everyone since Japan has a major hardon for waifu harem material.Zero did so bad in Japan, this would've most certainly boosted it dramatically
>Other than the drone sites that jerk it to Nintendo, every journalist finds Zero to be very dull and admits Star Fox 64 didnt age well in both that it's not that great and you grew out of it, not even Gameinformer liked it and Zeros review was on the very last page of their review section
>Not even those YT LPers liked it, except for the drone kinds that suck Nintendos dick no matter what shit they churn out
it was on a dead console, of course it failed
>>339654560
aesthetics are everything
that's why splatoon succeeded, and codename steam flopped
>>339672697
>Gimmick
Stopped reading there, sheep.
>>339672871
You couldn't see shit with Codename Steam
>>339672747
Explain Splatoon then?
>Many here speculated it'd fail for the same reason you mentioned
>Ended up sellling over a million copies in less than a month, since then it's hit at least 4 million
>Zero only hit about 300k overall, which really is not that good at all, and this is a game the rehashes 64 yet again, the very game some people still think is the best game
>When 643D released, it also failed miserably, OoT3D kicking its ass a month after that released. It may of got up to almost a million since, but in five years that's terrible, not to mention OoT3D still tops it.
>>339673008
>T-The controls work!!
If anyone's a sheep, it's you.
>>339655641
What's a console without games?
>>339673234
OoT tops it cause Zelda has always been a bigger series than starfox.
>>339673725
But think about it
>64 when it originally released did about as much as Splatoon did
>OoT and SM64 also were huge
>Suddenly as the years pass, Star Fox drops while Zelda and Mario continue to strive
>Some think it was because of the sequels, but because of Zero being a failure, it proves it wasnt their fault, but rather what was said for awhile
>Genre dying entirely, rehashing the same exact game again for the sake of nostalgia even though you can just get 64 for much less, the retarded standard there was just like there also was with Mario and Zelda (Sunshine and WW were hated because they werent like their 64 games), all the other shit people mentioned
You cant really say that because at one point, Star Fox was about as popular as it, it fails now because it was doomed when many consider it to be a now obsolete genre.
>mfw all Nintendo will learn from this is never do anything outside of Mario or Zelda
>New Metroid never
>New F-Zero never
>New Mother never
>>339674712
In Earthbounds sense, the creator himself said he doesnt want to continue it, so you cant blame Nintendo for that one.
F-Zero would've actually gotten a game too, but guess who declined the offer?
>>339669832
Are you talking abou Assault or Zero?
Because Assault in Hard mode was fun as fuck
>>339674487
Starfox has never been anywhere near Mario or Zelda.
And Mario has a fuckton of rehashes that still sell amazingly well.
Nintendo has an ton of franchises that fall into obscurity, Starfox is just another one of those series, the only thing that could save it at this point is either going the Kid Icarus route where it completely changes genres or goes the FE route and appeal to waifufags.
Why the fuck wasn't there a Vs. Modus?
Fucking hell.
>>339675668
Yea I get what you mean, like absolutely nobody gave a shit about Krystal.
>>339675668
Krystal and sometimes even the other SF chicks seem to attract furfag attention just fine.
But even if you were right, I'd say they go for a vibrant less-detailed artstyle like they did Zelda.
>>339654560
>innovation
>implying ANY developer has made anything close to innovating this whole fucking gen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onScwrHP2g0
SJW aside, this guy its totally right about Nintendo and how it treats it's audience.
>>339675912
>Some fags claimed japan hated her
>They still make Fanart of her and everyone that came about
>Nothing really pertaining to Zero on its own right, in fact pic related despite being 64 yet again, has everyone in there
>Obviously people in the west still make fanart of herat the cost of quality, lewds or not, but at least it's not as fucked up as all the gay ass shit
>Katt sorta got some fanart, lewds in particular, but not enough
>>339676978
Katt does have a model though, in the manga that takes place before Adventures, and it's official too.
Post Krystal and Miyu
>>339671696
zelda
>>339675384
I downloaded it to play with mysistersand after the godawful tutorial found out there isnt even multiplayer. I probably wont ever play the game again
Horrible decision
>>339677293
To put it like this, Adventures manual had a comic that takes place right after 64 and before Adventures, Katts body is shown along with everyone else.
Though for some reason NoA was retarded and didnt include the comic with the game, which is vital because it explains why Falco was absent until the end.
Why didn't they just plagiarize the Ace Combat games? Have the Star Fox team engaging in crazy aerial missions fighting giant gimmicky flying fortresses of doom and enemy aces or something. No gimmicky controllers, just one that feels good to handle.
Hell, given how they weren't held back by a realistic plane they could strap all sorts of bullshit weapons to the ships.
>>339677310
HOT
>>339676580
Based Jap artist. Especially ones like Sindoll.
wait, did it come out already
The motion controls aren't inherently terrible by themselves. Infact, if you get used to how the game plays, they're arguably more accurate and capable than any of the previous games, period. The problem is that the whole "CINEMATIC CAMERA ANGLES" on the default TV camera combined with an inaccurate crosshair means you HAVE to use the motion controls and the Gamepad (or first-person view on your ship, which has an FOV awareness problem) to even remotely hope to shoot accurately. And not everyone can multi-task between the TV and the Gamepad.
What's worse, disabling the motion controls to a degree doesn't fix the problem, so you're essentially gimping yourself and thus there's no reason not to use motion controls. With the option being irrelevantly useless, it means that if you're not a fan of motion controls, can't get the hang of them, or can't adjust to TV and Gamepad swapping / first person, you bought a $60 paperweight because Miyamoto loves gimmicks with no player choice.
inb4SindollLewds
This guy gets it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srto-g83Lgs
>>339678059
What in God's name is this
>>339678343
a youtuber who acts family friendly and uses a hand puppet to communicate his thoughts, apparently
>>339678629
He actually articulates his thoughts and opinions very well,moreso than the typical "I'll rant for an hour in front of my collection of shitty garbage about a subject I don't really have any interest in, but it will drive in views"
>>339677810
No, maybe, okay.
>>339678059
Never seen this before, but I like him.
But unfortunately, he's wrong. Even though he says everyone's different, he's still wrong.
>You have to look at both screens at all time
>You have to look at the bottom (gamepad) screen for precise controls
Both are wrong
Play the game in first person view 24/7, no reason to ever need to see your own ship.
Press "-", can your first person view is on the TV
>>339678742
Yeah, I just watched it. It was pretty good
>star fox is dead for sure now after years of false hope that it may be relevant one day again
At least that's over with now. I don't have to ever worry about hearing rumors or mentions of a new Star Fox game ever again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAvHjynPVoY
Which of these things would you do to Slippy?
>you are now hearing Tricky saying hum de dum in your head manually
How would a Star Fox game that had scenes like Neptunia be?It mostly focuses on the girls
>>339679346
>>339679346
>Constantly try to call him over to me
>I'M NOT DOING IT!!
>>339679427
It makes me a tad nervous thinking about it anon.In a good way
>>339679248
DELETE THIS
>>339679718
holy shit dat ecklace
>>339679908
I want one.
>>339660745
This is actually very incorrect. 20% of the bosses are from N64, the other 80% are garbage.
>UFO twice
>2 Headed Dragon twice
>Those horrid landmaster stages
>Gigarilla is fucking bullshit in the Arwing
>>339680363
The two headed dragon is from the SNES game anon...it's on the lines of the same carrier boss you fought form that and 64
>>339679718
>>339680103
T H I C K
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>>339680529
I never fully completed all routes in the SNES game, but I had a feeling considering it looked like it was an SNES model.
Doesn't change that they used it twice, it's also a bastard to fight without the gamepad screen's aiming.
>>339654560
Nintendo is just fucking retarded. They should stop innovating controls and innovate gameplay instead because that's what's important. Nobody wants their shitty wiggle garbage, there is a reason why the controller was created and is still the most commonly used devide for gaming (except for FPS and RTS).
So is Star Fox Zero any good or not?
>>339681180
it's average
it's not inherently terrible, it's just it doesn't really do much 'good' past be a not-as-good star fox 64, and the game being designed entirely around the motion controls doesn't help either
>>339679056
Sadly, this.
At least, now I can put Star Fox to rest.As if I needed another game to remind me of my late father, James.
>>339681180
It is a tough sell with the motion controls and how willing you're to unlearn anything that the past games have taught you. I was never the best at them to begin with so I picked up early on with using the the right view at the right moment.
If you're looking to get a decent game for the Wii U this may scratch that itch, but for how long depends if you truly love it.. Found brand new Guard isn't so bad either in a bundle for less then $60.
Each level could have had about twice the amount of enemies and maybe a few bosses could have be on rail rather than all range mode, but I don't get the hate the game gets here. The controls are difficult at first but if you actually put in the effort to learn them, they're pretty fun because you can start doing shit like shooting down Star Wolf mid somersault. They're not intuitive because we're not used to controlling two different kind of movement inputs, but learning something difficult and then mastering it is its own reward. Isn't that the whole point of games?
Also
>plot
>Star Fox
Who gives a shit, I just want to score attack. That's where the biggest fault of the game is, the levels are too fucking long. Cut the levels in half and give us a few more planets and we're good.
>>339653172
back into the grave it goes!
what franchise will they dig up next only to bury again?
>>339681180
It's good if you spend $20 on it.
Oh wow thought this thread was archived.
>All these people saying there wont be another starfox
Can't wait until you guys get BTFO just like I schooled the smash rosterfaggots.
But F-zero will be revived before then, screencap this if you want.
>>339681571
>I just want to score attack
Anon, no one plays games for scores anymore. Did you not see how people reacted to the Mighty No 9 Trailer?
Beside the mocking their own fanbase, no one cared about the high score shit, in fact one guy made fun of MN9 for that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtahpPH8D2g
Other than that, nobody gives a shit. Not even achievements or trophies can help it
>>339653172
The moment they unveiled it I knew it was going to flop. It didn't have anything new or exciting to offer people who have been playing Star Fox games their whole life (like me) and was lacking one of the most important aspects (good controls). The visuals, presentation and production values made the game extremely unappealing to new players. Nintendo wanted to please new players and old fans but ended up pleasing no-one. The game has a few vocal defenders, but they don't actually like the game as much as they want people to think, and they clearly don't have much buying power.
If you want to see a franchise revival done right, look no further than Doom. It hits the right notes for people who played Doom when we were kids, while enticing new players with the promise of brutal action, kickass visuals and music, and fast gameplay with tight controls.
Star Fox deserved a much better game than Star Fox Zero. The few fans who insist otherwise are clearly so numb to disappointment that they will latch on to anything with the Star Fox name on it as long as it superficially resembles Star Fox 64, no matter how disappointing the end product was.
>>339681180
its garbage that constantly makes references to prior entries in the series that reminds you you could be playing a decent game instead
>>339682268
Just like Super Mario 3D World?
This is a troubling trend, then.
>>339660745
Fixed your image for you.
>>339678059
Even though it's really weird seeing a muppet doing a game review, he's right.
>>339683171
The image anon made wasnt saying that but more so pointing out how flawed Zero is compared to every other game, good job also proving the point you're one of the defenders that refuses to accept the game sucks.
>>339683171
>WAAAAAH ITS NOT STAR FOX 64
>most of the complaints is that it Is too similar to SF64
>>339683171
If the game was good it would have gotten good reviews and wouldn't have been the worst selling Star Fox ever. Command was the first Star Fox game that wasn't a million seller, and yet somehow Zero managed to sell even worse.
>>339683171
well we can tell you didn't read it
>>339683651
>most of the complaints is that it Is too similar to SF64
>Complaining that Zero is a rehash of 64 when 64 was a fucking rehash of Star Fox
SF64 babies just love to bitch and do nothing else. Nintendo could release a SF64HD that's exactly like the original game in every way except for resolutions and textures, and SF64 babies would STILL bitch. They bitched about SF64 3D.
God forbid the series try anything fucking different from SF64.
>>339678059
FUCKING HELL SOMEONE STOLE MY YT IDEA
I blame the jews.
>>339684179
64 changed much more from SNES than Zero changed from 64, and the changes themselves were good too. 64 had great levels, a multiplayer mode, introduced the rumble pack, and actual decent controls.
People give 64 a pass because it was an actual good remake that brought a ton of improvements. Zero is almost an entire downgrade from 64 in an already outdated genre. If you're gonna remake, at least do it right, otherwise the SF64 "babies" have every right to bitch,
>>339684179
They do anything significantly different from 64, Zero is just a shittier 64 which is why nobody loves it
>>339684179
I love 64 but my personal favorite game in the series is Assault. Zero sucks.
>>339684647
>and the changes themselves were good too.
Fuck no they weren't. The Landmaster and Blue Marine sucked dick. All-range mode was awkward to control and still is. The voice acting was annoying as fuck.
The only things 64 improved upon from the original were the graphics (actual textures instead of flat colors), framerate (which was only poor due to the game using the original version of the SuperFX chip), and the rumble pack. As an experience otherwise, it was inferior.
SF was a concise, focused game that didn't overcomplicate things with unnecessary bullshit.
>>339685117
I tried playing Star Fox in an SNES emulator with a "SuperFX over clock" feature.
Holy shit. 60 fps Star Fox is fun as fuck. I need to play Star Fox 2 with it.
This is your date tonight
>>339653172
>failed
A Star Fox game without Krystal is automatically a success.
>>339688615
You have low standards
>>339686623
>I need to play Star Fox 2 with it.
There's no need, since Star Fox 2 uses the second iteration of the SuperFX chip that was twice as powerful. Same chip that was used in Yoshi's Island and the SNES port of Doom.
Is it time to make another RPG game like Adventures?
Is Zero the one that is basically just a remake of 64?
Because that is exactly what I wanted, a modern Star Fox 64.
Except I heard it had shit controls.
>>339688615
>>339693792
From the looks of things Miyu just propositioned Fox and Krystal for a threesome.
