Which one is the best?
story and bosses: 1
gameplay: 2
Heroes' Paradise
2
>>339586690
There both equally good
>>339587359
>tfw we'll never going to get a HD remastering of 2
First was superior.
First game was good but 2 improved on pretty much everything. Smoother gameplay, more combat options, less busywork, and obviously more bosses. It's hard to go back.
What the fuck is up with the parking lot before the last boss in 2? It's like fourty fucking minutes of non stop enemies just getting thrown at you, it's awful
>>339586690
sucks the EU version of the first one had the blood censored.
>>339587279
this
desperate struggle is good but lacks the passion of the first one
download dolphin, use your wiimote on bluetooth, it just works
>>339590931
just play it on dolphin.
I don´t remember if I took this shot in NmH 1 or 2 but they look about the same graphics wise
>>339593275
How well do they emulate?
>>339593359
>How well do they emulate?
perfectly if you have a non shit cpu that is.
You obviously need a wiimote and nunchuck.
Now this is definitely from 1
>>339586690
1 is better in the sense that it's more of a complete experience. It has a unique style that would be hard to find in other games, and it seemed aware of how different it was at the time. The dialogue was great, the bosses were great, the music was great, and the story chose to give up at just the right moment.
2 fixes a lot of problems that 1 has in terms of practicality and design, but also loses a lot of its uniqueness and most of all hides its bizarre concepts far more than 1 did, forcing it to stand on its core gameplay, which is passable but not amazing. 2 had much better minigames, but made it so you never had to play them; it had a lower rank assassin challenge you, but it was missable and not necessary for the game; it had much more complex clothing styles, but they were all parts of sets that looked ugly on their own and the shirts weren't nearly as cool as the ones in 1. Add to that the story seemingly going somewhere with all its flashforwards and references, but failing to bring back anything from 1's ending, and also failing to go anywhere. It's just not as complete a package in terms of experience.
Also, 2 had no wiimote phone gimmick.
>>339586690
The first one. By FAR.
>>339586690
2 because it didn't have the job aspect
no more heroes thread? sweet
post your favorite songs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFXqJ--L_Kk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkTYXF0_d-w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-Agp4yO5k8
>Henry showing off some boss kills that you never get to do
>No Henry fight at the end
Going to have to go with 1.
>>339593719
from the first game this: https://youtu.be/LkH80EXDzUk
haven´t finished the second yet
>>339593631
People actually used the remote speaker? I turned that off right away because it sounds like shit. it is actually accurate to using a shitty phone, but that's not something I want to replicate
>>339593719
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y35Q7xXmTUQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIB8Y0Fvqhg
Also best girl
>>339586690
2. 2 has all the pointless filler between boss fights removed. Make no mistake, NMH is just a boss fight simulator. 2 also has cooler bosses.
>>339593719
You were correct to post the PAL version of Philistine. Good to see you aren't all autotune hating memesters.
>>339593719
>PAL version
Good taste.
>>339594316
it's probably the only third party game that uses the gimmicks well, honestly
>>339594316
Sylvia speaking to me through the speaker gave me big boners.
>>339594489
>2 also has cooler bosses.
nigga I'll fight you
>>339593796
>get to the end of NMH
>half sister lame end boss
>unlock secret true end boss Henry
1 is the best game.
>>339593719
I remember enjoying very few tracks from 2. Also the final boss second form is one the biggest load of bull around.
Tfw /v/ actually likes my favourite series. Goddamn the hive mind does have good taste once in a while
>>339595104
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cK329NBj55M
>>339593631
>they were all parts of sets that looked ugly on their own
This was such a bad idea
>>339595415
did you play killer7 or Killer is Dead?
KiD is pretty similar despite having an entirely different focus, and K7 might be Suda's best game and just an absolutely unique experience that everyone should have.
NMH is pretty damn good, though, I lost my shit when they announced the sequel.
>>339594489
>2 also has cooler bosses
I know it's a matter of opinion, but yours is just plain wrong here.
>1
You can mass kill.
>2
>you have to kill enemies ONE BY ONE
There's that point where 2 becomes insultingly tedious and boring. Granted 1 has the money collecting sequence but the game is nowhere the mindless, uncreative and redundant enemy spam that 2 is.
That fucking parking lot.
>>339595704
2 bosses suck next to the first game's.
>>339595701
>>339595704
Ryuji and Captain Vladimir were better boss fights than anything in 1.
>>339596067
Ryuji is a good boss fight but that first part with the motorcycle kills it.
Also:
>Beat him
>That cutscene afterwards
>>339591270
It's adesperate struggle
First game hands down.
2's gameplay isn't THAT big a step up from 1.
But for the (incredibly slightly) better gameplay, you get worse story, worse bosses, and worse music.
I don't even want to say the graphics in 2 are better since it's not 60fps like the first game.
It's the music that really kills me though. Masafumi Takada leaving is the worst thing that ever happened to Grasshopper Manufacture.
>>339591270
To show how tired Travis has become of killing, they make the player tired of killing.
It's art.
>>339596048
I mean, I'd do it.
>>339593719
>that fucking Philistine
PIG DISGUSTING dear fucking lord how can you just ruin a song like that?
It's like the fucking autotune City Escape in Sonic Generations.
>>339597650
Autotune isn't a bad thing you stupid fucking parrot.
>>339596048
>smokes:cock
>>339597469
Any idea why he fucked off? He's my favourite vidya composer and I'm curious.
>>339597650
The Jap/Pal version works better as BGM than the straight up song version.
>>339595701
>tfw we recently had two Killer7 threads, one of which went to bump limit
Shit was fucking comfy.
>>339594376
No More No More Heroes is so perfect.
>tfw ripping the music directly from the Wii disc
>MFW THE FUCKING FILENAMES
Dr. Peace's theme is labeled "Helter Skelter"
Holly Summer's theme is labeled "Shinobu 2"
Holly Summer's actual theme is a (rather shitty) unused track.
It's a damn fucking shame we never got the second Shinobu fight or a fight with Helter Skelter.
>>339593719
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtJZnV9mm1A
>>339597805
No idea.
You'd think Akira Yamaoka would be a decent replacement but his soundtrack for Killer Is Dead is the worst work of his entire career, and yet that game came with a soundtrack CD.
>tfw second game didn't have any god tier licensed music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XL2od1AF_Cs
>Yfw this started playing in 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtOaSJ4mfp0
>>339596048
literally me
NO MORE HEROES IT'S KIRR OR BE KIRRED
>>339598158
>Letsgettaway FLYYYY AWAAAAYY
>I've found the bestttabillagsedssfs
>shine
First game was better and more cohesive. Story, characters, music, even visual style were all much better and much more coherent.
2 went way too far with Travis literally transforming into a tiger and giant mechs and ghosts and I don't even fucking know anymore. All that shit was unnecessary, especially when you've got great new characters like Ryuji and Alice Twilight.
And the music really sucked. Aside from Philistine most of the boss themes in 2 aren't even half as memorable as the ones from the first game.
>>339586690
who do I have to succ to get NMH 3
>>339598279
I would KIRRfor another game
>>339593719
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWVz8_Ha7tY
>>339598546
>no NMH fighting game by Arc System Works
kill me now
>>339598378
It's "I've found the perfect paradise". What's wrong with you?
>>339598502
>2 went way too far with Travis literally transforming into a tiger
it seemed far more coherent than Travis going supersaiyan. The tiger motif has always been there.
>great new characters like Ryuji
he was a fun fight, but he had literally no character
>>339597876
There was even one where the Craigslist Killer 7 guy showed up
Shit was cash
>>339598652
It's actually "I've found the path to paradise."
It's not that hard to understand. hell the Genki Rockets have more coherent English than Cibo Matto and Cibo Matto lives in the US.
>>339598676
He was an awesome fucking rival/equal to Travis who actually shared Travis's interests, unlike Henry who is just sort of a polar opposite.
How's the PS3 version of NMH1?
I was planning to play that and emulate NMH2
>>339598532
aisha tyler's cock
>>339597469
Wait, didn't Takada make the music for NMH2 as well?
Shinobu's stages were awful. Why did they think the game needed a jump mechanic? And fucking New Destroyman gets caught in a shitty loop where you can hardly hit him so the battle drags on.
Don't even get me started on Jasper Batt Jr.
>>339598846
I felt the graphics looked weird on PS3, I think they kind of fucked up the cel shading while trying to make it HD. Maybe it's just me.
Make sure to play it with move, playing NMH with regular controls is really not the same.
>>339598919
No, he left by then and they hadn't hired Akira Yamaoka yet, so it was done pretty much by a team of amateurs. He's credited but I'm pretty sure that's because they reuse the main theme from the first game.
>>339598846
It's pretty ass with a dualshock 3 controller but maybe it's better with that PS Move shit if you have that laying around.
>>339595701
is there a difference between ps2 version and gamecube version of Killer7?
GETTIN' YER JOLLIES?
>>339598983
I had no idea Jasper Batt Jr. was voiced by Yuri Lowenthal
>>339598846
some people like it better than the original, I'm of the opinion that NMH1 is the best third party game to use motion controls and to take that away is to take away a lot of the game's intended design. You could use a move for it, but they made dodging mapped to flicks instead of the d-pad and I wasn't a big fan of that. Granted the masturbation motion for charging your katana is 1:1 perfection.
The graphics were changed a bit and look a bit more neon like Killer is Dead instead of the original blocky comic book look.
>>339599093
Yeah, the PS2 version is pretty much unplayable complete dogshit garbage and the Gamecube version is fantastic.
>>339598846
I've heard it's better, but NMH1 is honestly pretty repetitive and boring. Only reason to play is the cutscenes, but you can just google those.
Dunno how it compares NMH2.
I've never played Killer7. How easy is it to set up with an emulator?
>>339599093
load times and graphics, I think. Gamecube is slightly superior, but not to the point that ps2 is unplayable.
>>339599123
How could you not? I recognize his shitty irritating voice anywhere.
I was pissed when he played not one, but TWO characters in Anarchy Reigns.
>>339599123
Dude's in everything. What shocked me was Travis' VA was also the Medic and Kaz Miller.
>>339599093
imagine the difference between RE4 on the Gamecube versus the PS2
now imagine that but even fucking worse
don't even try it on PS2
>>339599298
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6O-vBVCbg0
>>339598874
deal
>>339599118
CHICKEN SHIT
>>339599118
>>339599618
7th generation was a great time for repetitive NPC dialogue
STOP RIGHT THERE CRIMINAL SCUM
ENEMIES EVERYWHERE
YOU MUST DIE
YOU NEVER SHOULDA COME HERE AND NOW YOU'RE GONNA PAY
goddamn fun times
>>339599618
STRUTTIN' LIKE YOU OWN THE PLACE
>>339598842
but he never speaks a word, and then gets gunned down like an asshole by sylvia.
Henry has a ton of buildup and a great fight. Ryuji is just mentioned to be Travis' equal in combat about 5 minutes before you meet him and half his battle sucks.
He had a really cool design, but they did nothing with him
>>339598846
NMH2 emulates fairly well if you have a decent enough cpu. If you don't have a wii mote/nunchuck play by using your preferred controller because NMH2 supported pro controllers on wii
I played NMH Hero's paradise with the dualshockfuck the ps move
the controls feel clunky, hard to explain why but wii version felt smoother?I might be wrong.
having to press either l3 or r3 for finisher/wrestling moves before the stick flick is something that you get used to, but still stupid when you didn't have to do that in NMH2with pro controller.
having to shake the dualshock 3 to recharge the beam katana is something that should have been optional because I have light carpals and it actually hurts me after a few sessions especially bosses.Again, NMH2 didn't made you do that shit with pro controller.
>>339599180
>>339599369but I only have ps2
does it emulate well on dolphin?
>Best boss fight in the game
>This music plays https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FISXJNCcLM0
>Fight takes place in a fucking parking lot
Someone explain this
>>339599991
Do you not even have a Wii?
>>339599118
TROUBLE IN YOUR VIRTUAL WORLD?
dunno why, but this song makes me sad and lonely for whatever reason
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y35Q7xXmTUQ
>>339600089
MAMA
>>339600034
It's the most hype fucking parking lot of all fucking time. the fact that the most hype ass battle is happening in a regular place is what makes it badass.
>>339600034
Travis was taking a dump in his room and was interrupted.
They ain't gonna fight inside Travis' room, the parking lot is spacious enough for a good fight.
>>339600034
1) It's right there and spacious enough.
2) It's where the game starts and ending the game where the game starts is neat.
>>339599118
>GETTIN' YER JOLLIES
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kshQWqEgJns
>>339599759
TROUBLE IN YER VIRTUAL WORLD
>>339601021
FUCKIN' WITH ME?
>>339600342
Game starts in a mansion nigga
>finally get to play as Henry
>it's for one fight against a novelty boss
>>339601330
When you are selecting a difficulty, you start at the motel. You even walk down the stairs.
>>339601383
I love how he's whistling the theme as he does.
which was worse? Million Gunman or Destroyerman MK2?
>>339601930
I don't really remember any problems with Million Gunman, but it has been a while. Destroyman MK2 sometimes took forever though so I'll go with that.
>>339601930
Destroyman 2 was terrible because his battle didn't get any faster or easier with practice. Half of it is waiting for him to be in range.
If you position yourself okay you can generally get million gunman as he comes out of the elevators and keep him from attacking
Matt helms might be my least favorite fight, though
>>339602252
>That camera in the Matt Helms fight
>Friend comes over to show me the original on the ps3
>Frame rate as good as Drakengard 3
What the hell, is the wii version as bad?
>>339593719
>Philistine
>Pleather for Breakfast
Excellent
>Anything from the abortion that was the Jasper Batt fights
>mfw
I don't care if the music is objectively good, Jasper was one of the most disappointing final bosses in recent memory.
>>339602514
I think it chugs a bit when you kill 5 or so guys at once, but I don't recall it being a problem, at least not to the extent that it was during some of Accord's trials in DoD3.
>>339601178
I DONT FEEL SHIT
>>339602392
he takes so little damage from your normal katanas I was convinced I was doing something wrong
2 seemed to have a lot of that. I mean, we had henry who could take about 100 slices before going down in 1, but the rest of the bosses had a steady pace. Some bosses in 2 are huge damage sponges and don't even have the courtesy to change their strategy half-way through.
And then there's Chloe, who you kill accidentally a few seconds before you find out that the fight had a poison gas mechanic
>>339603254
MY SPLEEN
>yfw attacking Bad Girl when she falls down and starts crying
>>339603486
I both loved and hated that that's a thing. From a gameplay perspective it's so frustrating but from a character perspective it makes her terrifying.
Out of all these crazy mother fuckers she's ranked second and it shows you why. Zero remorse and she's completely fuckign insane.
So who was the coolest assassin and why was it Dr Peace?
>>339600034
i jsut found the design references for whatever the sith guy was in the new star wars movie i havent seen nor will see unless friends decide to watch a filck at my place whilst drinking and playing poker.
>>339603628
No, it's just stupid.
Never played them, which is the definitive version of NMH?
>>339604051
henry's cross saber actually makes more sense than the new star wars one
>>339599219
I recently replayed it on dolphin and it worked perfectly for me at 4k resolution with only a couple of very specific crashes, just check the dolphin wiki for settings and remember to use d3d
>>339604184
>>339603628
>>339603486
you have to pay attention to her hand. If she's holding her bat while crying, she's bluffing and you get killed if you attack her, otherwise you can attack her with no repercussions.
>>339604336
I like the wii version better. The ps3 version has weird graphics, worse controls and some extra battles from nmh2 while the wii one was completely self contained.
Suda thread? time to post favorite scenes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAp_Xm3TCuI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXwWjxbzuIk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWLWYxiOOZg
>>339606007
might as well get the obvious ones out of the way
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_8KzyBl3mc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQ1QT2d8x_E
>>339597561
More like lazy design
What was Naomi's dark secret?
>>339609062
she was 60 years old and had intense breast envy
Does anyone have a mega link for the soundtracks of NmH 1 &2?
>>339609562
https://mega.nz/#F!lJ1jSSqY!JBL9HSy321BlbAL7nBzP0A
>>339611325
thanks anon
>>339598846
Looks sharper yes, but doesn't have the high contrast shadows the Wii version has
the game is ASS when played with a dualshock3, you need a move controller to do this game justice, that said the move is MUCH more precise than a Wiimote, however whoever did the port put no deadzones or dampening on its inputs(feels like they set 1.0 as down and 1.1 as up when the controller rance is 0 to 2, so get used to either sporadically change stances or get stuck in one no matter what you do, the calibration tool is misleading too so you will have to try and error your way to a proper calibration
Besides that you also have to deal that the wagan minigames don't really translate well to the move since they were made to the Wiimote + Nunchuck in mine, both have motion sensors, while the navi controller doesn't has it, only the move controller does, yes you can use a DS3 as your left hand controller, but it feels like shit nd the devs weren't expecting you to use one, so it wont read the motion inputs from it
All in all, its a decent port, but the wii version is still better
>>339586690
The first one. While the second gained some better systems it lost what I really enjoyed about 1. Only Nathan Copeland and Alice Twilight in 2 really gave me the boss fight feels that 1 did. In fact Desperate Struggle was a forgettable disappointment to me until I got to Alice's level. That slow walk at the start with the somber as fuck music.
This shit right here;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o67Bo1lxutQ
First game is one of my top games of all time because of it's complete experience. Two doesn't even place. Wish Suda51 would have full control over another game, he hasn't since NMH1.
>>339586690
is Suda51 the Tarantio of gamesor is the Robert Rodrigues?
>>339613716
Agreed. NMH2 doesn't really have the feel of 1. Its combat system is better, the job minigames are better, and I genuinely like a lot of the soundtrack on its own merits, but it doesn't have the same magic as 1.
>>339614209
He's like a Tarantino with how he's very unique and loves violence. But I don't think suda understands game design like Tarantino understands cinematography.
A lot of times suda games fall short or average in gameplay but make up for it with story/characters/style
I'M WEARY OF THIS GILDED WORLD!
ALL GLITTER! NO SOUL!
>>339599118
MY SPLEEN
>>339615136
Yup. Him and Alice are the only two bosses of substance I remember in the second game.
1 is much more charming
2 has great gameplay
The mind-blowing lore of 1 is something I still can't get over
>>339609146
What is the source on that?
>>339598919
>>339597469
Speaking of OSTs, I remember downloading a long time ago a "Darkside" arrange OST for NMH1 and when Desperate Struggle came out most of the songs were from that arrange. What's up with that?
>>339598983
I never had problems with Japser. Then again I never played 2 on Bitter.
>>339603365
that's what usually hear
she make my dream of using henry
>>339614209
He was trying to be david lynch then end up being robert rodrigues
Did anyone else here actually read No More Heroes 1 manual and shat 10x bricks at the ending scene?
tfw Suda discussed the idea of a NMH3 and still nothing.
How was No More Heroes so good but Killer is Dead so awful.
I finished KID the other day and I enjoyed almost none of it. The combat just didn't work and I hated all of the bosses aside from the Yakuza boss and the final boss.
>>339602721
Henry was on the same boat as you about Jasper's final form.
>>339618480
KID is what you get when you take NMH and suck all of the soul out of it.
>>339599298
>What shocked me was Travis' VA was also the Medic and Kaz Miller
I love him when he hams
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlUpDnaxcZc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLURZh8IysY
>>339593719
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1fZxIX0psU
Really set the surreal feeling of the experience up for me.
FUCKING NO MORE HEROES THREAD FUCKHEADS
First thing i did in my day was putting NMH2 OST
>>339595104
>jean
>lame
>>339618814
It's a shit fight for a final boss one.
What did people call her and why?
>>339618784
>Jodorowsky and Suda will never work together in a surreal videogame
JUSTFUCKMYSHITUPALREADYFAM
>>339619128
Reaper. Which is strange, because they all die.
How they fuck are they gonna call her something if they are dead.
Anyone remembers some anon that posted a fucking rare Killer7 poster?
It had the beta aim and stuff
>>339619128
Forgettable. Till I remembered that people are nuts for her trope.
>>339618480
Suda stopped working on any game after the original no more heroes.
Notice how he is always credited as something random like "executive co-director" or "planner" or some shit.
KiD was just a game made by his staff trying to ape his old style.
>>339619364
Because when they die, she sings, and ends their lives. Do you think payback makes so a nobleman, is that a fact? Well you're a godamn, philistine.
>>339619128
She had one of the best deaths though. Not enough brutal samurai-style disembowelings in games.
>>339591270
Revenge is bad. You need to be taught a lesson.
>>339593719
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uMBF7vGBTOM
>YOU WON'T GET AWAY WITH THIS!
>>339621790
BRACE YOURSELF
>>339621790
>Sling Shot
>>339613716
>Tooth Paste
Is that what they are called in the game files or something?
Imagine if the games had DMC3/4-tier gameplay. I know it would kind of contradict the point of the first game, but I mean, it would be so fucking cool. Travis would have a style that was a mix between Japanese sword play and fucking luchadore wrestling. The games have everything they need to be cuhrayzee except gameplay.
![Paris.Texas.1984.1080p.Criterion.Bluray.DTS.x264-GCJM.mkv_snapshot_02.19.48_[2016.04.13_02.25.42].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/IVhqLMu.jpg "Paris.Texas.1984.1080p.Criterion.Bluray.DTS.x264-GCJM.mkv_snapshot_02.19.48_[2016.04.13_02.25.42].jpg")
All I remember about NMH2 is that I really liked the astronaut dude, there was something BOSS-LIKE about it with him thinking he was still in space and all. Something that was missing from THE FURY GRRRR IM ANGRY DO YOU GET IT YET GRRRRRRRR MGS3 boss.
NMH1 was just good all around. Though the NHM2 ending is interesting since I saw Paris Texas a month ago with NO knowledge that it was connected to nmh.
>>339622106
Yes. All the songs have weird ass names.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sr1iDaTRUGk
>>339622187
>tfw no Itsuno/Suda collaboration game
>>339622298
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=l_FmMUOBueM
>>339622469
>>339622313
Ok. I was confused because Sling Shot is called Beam Katana Chronicles II and Tooth Paste is called Desperado in the OST.
>>339586690
>It's a top 10 worst final bosses/most hated vidya villains episode
>No More Heroes 2 shows up
>>339618221
There's a lot that isn't really mentioned in game. The Speed Buster intro cutscene must have confused a lot of people.
>>339622630
Wasn't there a point to the final boss being such a frustrating piece of shit?
>>339622630
To be fair, NMH2 last boss fight is awful compared to NMH1
Even if its on purpose
>>339618391
He told us we'd get it on Wii U, and then he got bought and is making mobile games or some f2p shit or something. It sucks.
>>339622710
I heard it was supposed to be anticlimactic to reflect off some deep philosophical meaning or some shit.
>>339622710
Jasper being such a ridiculous frustrating faggot was supposed to show how revenge is dumb and stuff.
>>339622710
Make phase 2 the most annoying shit possible, then make phase 3 the most unsatisfying conclusion to the fight, with an even stupider form. It's like pottery.
>>339622857
>>339622893
Thought so.
I didn't even bother beating the last boss in NMH2 I was just done and looked up a youtube ending.
>>339623168
It's not THAT bad
His theme is pretty good
>>339623168
https://youtu.be/qXJkge7JAGg?t=34s
You know, people may very well criticize NMHeroes' open world for not really bringing much to the table but removing it for the sequel was a very ill conceived idea. Only thing that did was bring attention to how little content there was to the game.
>>339616760
>mind-blowing lore
elaborate please
>>339623863
It's a kusoge, it don't matter.
>>339623863
Huh?
I thought they were pretty much the same
NMH2 still has those side missions
First one was far superior.
>they took out the text-to-speech boss introduction
>HAR-VEE MOY-SU-WITZ VO-LO--DAR-SKI
>suda will never be this stylish and risky again
https://youtu.be/i11ZWJJbP-k
fuck this world, legit one of the best game designers in vidya history and he's stuck making some F2P.
wtf suda
>>339624240
I'm one of the few people who just generally like open worlds for lending a sense of space and location to the events of a game.
Sure, the first game had you do pretty much the same things but in between you had to actually go to the locations where you were doing those things and that alone made them feel more meaningful.
The menus in 2 were just bland. And you know what's depressing? The ending cutscene with Travis on the back of Sylvias bike showed that the city itself was actually fully modelled.
>>339623863
Agreed, it was a huge mistake because NMH was designed from the start to be a satire of modern games. Besides the obvious stuff like how Travis is clearly a loser weeaboo like the player, Suda was also making fun of how little there is to do in open world games. Santa Destroy is an ugly as hell town in the middle of nowhere covered in garbage and pests, it's why Travis just spends his days jacking off to anime and watching wrestling in his room. There's a lot more to it than this, a guy called 0verhyped made a good article on the game's satirical aspects
>>339625289
Well the city was pretty boring
But i understand what you're saying, they could've made the city a lot better
Why were the bosses in 1 so much more memorable? I can barely remember anyone from 2.
2 has better gameplay but I don't know who was playing NMH for the gameplay, it was a complete style over substance game.
I don't understand why 2 didn't even touch upon the mindfuck elements of 1 like Sylvia's daughter and whether the UAA was even real.
Philistine is always posted
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mi469Fi7n3kNot Philistine
>>339625212
>S P E E D B U S T E R
>fuck you ya little prick
the best
>>339593719
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNRl-PzLzV4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-V8htEtAYI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNM5mFQ9siI
its kirr or be kirred desu
>>339598765
shut up and let me eat
The best
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iZKLanUz-M
>>339625212
>Listen to my song.
>he actually sings
One of my favorite characters of all time. Fuck, the entire cast of NMH 1 is incredibly memorable.
>>339587279
This.
As much as I love NMH, having to pay out the ass to progress was just obnoxious padding, which NMH2 thankfully abandoned.
>>339625212
how does one replicate such a text to speech voice
>>339619128
Reaper reaper, that's what people call me...
>>339627501
from what I understand it's just like the text-to-speech you'd get built in on a mac during the 90s.
idk if they have it built in now, there's definitely something on the net.
1 had better aesthetics and boss fights. 2 had better gameplay flow and refined mechanics. They're pretty much equal.
Seems like the thread is dying
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtJZnV9mm1A
>>339586690
2 was the better game, 1 had the best bosses.
That said, when I started playing 1 I didn't really get the concept, whereas, having played the first, two felt like such a brilliant continuation. One of the few games that I completed in a single continuous session - couldn't put it down.
>>339629252
That reminded me
The first time i played NMH i played it for 5 hours
