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I'M INNOCENT! YOU'RE THE MURDERERS! SNAKE! YOU SHOULD
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I'M INNOCENT!

YOU'RE THE MURDERERS!

SNAKE! YOU SHOULD BE IN THIS BOAT!
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>>339576002
Yeah, that's great Huey, now get in the fucking boat.
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>>339576002
>No proof Huey was involved in the destruction of Motherbase
>No proof Huey murdered Strangelove
>No proof Huey intentially made a virus that led to an outbreak
>No proof Huey ever did anything wrong except trust Snake
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Huey did nothing wrong.
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>>339576002
The only reason Huey lived is because you'd get a TIME PARADOX if Snake killed Huey.

Canonically Big Boss most likely would've killed Huey.
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>>339576002
KILL HIM! KILL THAT SON OF A BITCH!
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Is Bunnyhop still a retarded Huey apologist?
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>>339576002
>>339576158
Both Randolph and Atkin-Downes did a fucking ace job with their roles.

It was fucking incredible.
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>>339576150
>Canonically Big Boss most likely would've killed Huey.

I disagree. Big Boss most likely would have seen Huey as so pathetic that he wasn't even worth killing.
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>>339576128
>No proof Huey intentionally made a virus that led to an outbreak
The point is he still made it, whether it was intentional or not is irrelevant.

>No proof Huey murdered Strangelove
Except the audio the pod recorded.
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>>339576150
This is true. I loved the exile scene but it was disappointing knowing ahead of time he wouldn't die until Otacon literally cucks him to death.
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>>339576261
"HUEY LET ME OUT"

Nothing but Strangelove asking Huey to let her out, no evidence he locked her in there.
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>>339576128
Get back in the boat, Huey
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>>339576204
I don't remember any Huey apologist stuff from him? What was it in?

Dumbest thing I remember is the Chico/Paz child soldier shit.
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>>339576002
You know the most fun about playing MGS5 at launch was just discussing with people when it came to Huey. You could tell how much farther some people were compared to others, because playing MGS5 made a lot of people hate the bastard, while the rest are thinking why everyone hates him all of a sudden.
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>>339576002

Huey I could have let Kaz and Ocelot lynch you.
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>>339576374
It in a Two Best Friends podcast where he went on a whole rant about how there's no proof Huey ever did anything wrong except be a fuck up.
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>>339576307
One can pretty fucking easily infer from the tone of her voice that she's angry at him. And why else would she be angry about anything in this situation other than the fact that he's the one that shut her in there.
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>>339576236
Agreed. I got chills watching that scene.

>We've reviewed into everything else that's happened since you've arrived here.

>Please...

>GUILTY! All counts!
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>>339576307
The evidence is in everything Strangelove said during the tape. It's all there in context.
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I am still extremely depressed that the entirety of this game was shown in the trailers. This could have been so much more but it feels like an amateur film made by a million dollar company
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>>339576158
TAKE HIM DOWN!
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>>339576285
I think getting cucked to death by your own son is far more harsh and humiliating than any punishment Diamond Dogs could've inflicted.
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>>339576307

Negligent homicide.
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>>339576384
People make fun of them all the time, but the fans of metal gear is what makes the game so much more fun to talk about. It's such an odd series with so many quality points that people find their own meanings for things that seem illogical.
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>>339576662
Shoo shoo base goblin
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>I WANT TO BE OF USE TO YOU, NOT HIM.
Huey confirmed bitch boy.
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>>339576236
While Miller's increasingly unhinged rage and paranoia made for an interesting and entertaining character, I'm afraid he still had a major problem in having no real payoff for the entire game's length of buildup outside of that trial scene.

Huey's actually the only character in the game that I'd say was well done. Extremely well done, at that.
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>>339576128
Anyone have that copypasta featuring the banter between Huey and Strangelove regarding Huey's shitty parenting skills? You know. The one where he's coming up with excuses why he wouldn't feed Otacon?
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>>339576307
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>>339576384
I don't think any of us could've predicted how depraved Huey was but after seeing how it played out it made so much sense.
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>>339576002
>YOU SHOULD BE IN THIS BOAT!

And your game should have a complete narrative that tells it's own story within it's own game like every other Metal Gear does, but it doesn't.
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>>339576870
I hope that if Kojima makes a Metal Gear movie that it revolves around the story of Huey and how he had to get on that boat in the end or Kaz " the one man clan" Miller.
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>>339576857
I was talking about the voice acting in particular, but yeah, I do find Huey's character arc very interesting, more so than Kaz'.

I mean, the guy's a huge cunt, but the way he justifies himself being a cunt was fascinating. Huey's arc in my opinion, feels like some of the few things in MGSV that was actually finished.
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>>339577030
What do you mean it doesn't?
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>>339576662
KILL HIM! KILL THAT SON OF A BITCH!
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>>339577135
It's shit
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>I wanted to like Huey
>I wanted to believe that he's just been very unlucky
>he finally spills the beans on OKB Zero
>"YOU FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT, WHYYYY"
>more revelations about Strangelove and Hal come to light
>mfw
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>>339576662
KILL HIM! KILL THAT SON OF A BITCH!
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>>339576150
That wasn't Big Boss though.
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>>339576662
THIS IS THE ENEMY! AND HE'S HERE ON HIS KNEES!
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>>339577135
Stories usually have a beginning, middle, climax, and end.

Every Metal Gear game thus far, while still being part of an overall narrative, had it's own story to tell that wrapped up for the most part within it's own game.

MGSV simply cuts off midway and resolves almost none of it's plotlines, and causes more problems to the overall storyline than it helps. It would have been better if it had never been made at all.
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>>339576384
That's kind of the majesty of how well Huey's arc is done in the game, especially in utilizing the audience's expectation of him. Everyone starts out giving Huey the benefit of the doubt because of exposure to him in Peace Walker, which presents him as simply an Otacon clone. Then over the course of the Phantom Pain, the audience is given an increasing sense of doubt until they have the realization that Huey is not only the most despicable character in the series, even in comparison to obvious villains, but has ALWAYS been like that all along.

Also thematically appropriate that Huey ends up being the exact opposite of Otacon, even though they appear identical at first. Makes Otacon all the more appreciable and heroic, too.

In short, Huey's the only good part about the Story in the Phantom Pain.
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>>339577463
>MGSV simply cuts off midway and resolves almost none of it's plotlines, and causes more problems to the overall storyline than it helps. It would have been better if it had never been made at all.

Well duh. Konami rushed the game and fired Kojima before KojiPro could finish it. Of course the story and the game felt unfinished.
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>>339576662
KILL HIM! KILL THAT SON OF A BITCH!
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>>339577463
Metal Gear Rising despite not being directly canon, (lol canon love kojima really but not really) had a shit load of open ended garbage that never got wrapped up. Just ended up this is my mission of revenge now. Metal Gear Rising 2 never, because Kojima felt as though he didn't have enough control over the first game that there will not be a second game. Even if Platinum were the ones to pay for it.

Also the Alpha development phases were far better then the final release product which just killed a ton of what the game was suppose to be.
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>>339577579
No, I don't think so. All that's missing from the story is Lord of the Flies, which is just a conclusion to the side story, not a proper third act.
Kojima is to blame for the state of the story, not Konami.
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>>339577579
I do blame Konami. They could at least be less asshats and release the rest of the story as DLC, but they don't have the right people left to even do that.
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>>339577732
All that we know is missing is Lord of the Flies.
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>>339577730
The shit are you on about?

Rising was the start of a new storyline so of course some plot elements were left open for sequels, and the Armstrong/Desperado Enforcement elements were wrapped up and over with by the end of the game.

MGSV is shit because nothing will ever tie it up ever. It's story is essentially abandonware.
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~~Diamond Dogs Loyalty Test~~

This is a _____
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>>339578036
dog?
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>>339576158
Why were they so mad? As the mast majority were just new recruits.
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>>339578036
Wolf
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>>339578036
woofer
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>>339577925
>MGSV is shit because nothing will ever tie it up ever. It's story is essentially abandonware.

Why wouldn't Rising be considered abandonware now also that Konami has given up on attaining a Metal Gear for themselves?

Does Kojima have plans with other directors to instead of a main story metal gear movie starting with the story of Rising and moving on World Marshal?
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>>339578036
Man's best friend.
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>>339577732
>>339577792
They're both at fault really.

Kojima was being way too gung-ho with the budget he was given, and overestimated his team, and Konami was in a rush to jump ship from video games in general.
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>>339576236
>He's responsible for all, ALL OF THIS.
>THIS IS THE ENEMY, AND HE IS HERE - ON HIS KNEES.

gives me chills everytime.
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>>339578165
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>>339578036
Overpowered piece of shit, literally turns MGS5 into Overwatch wallhack simulator
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>>339578165
Stfu, Quiet.
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>>339577732
I really don't get the people who think that the completion of "Kingdom of the Flies" would've fixed the game. Even with that included, the story is still shit with an abrupt, illogical ending and stupid twist.

Eli should've been taken completely out of the game, leaving Skull Face as the villain. And then maybe we could've gotten Snake as an actual character instead of a player stand-in with the story of how Big Boss goes nuclear like we all wanted.
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>>339578267
Given how shitty a company Konami is, I think it's probably safe to place most of the blame on them.
How long has Kojima been working for them?
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>>339576002
Well, if you ignore all the shit he caused/fucked up, he did at least 1 good thing.
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ONE YEAR LATER AND STILL NO NEW GAME PLUS OPTION
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>>339578194
Rising stands on it's own as a complete game with it's own story resolved, with our without a sequel (which I would love).

MGSV is the masterpiece that never was, and will always be a reminder of Konami's fuckery.
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>>339578548
You won't get it, unless Konami can sell it to you.
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>>339578462
I don't think I'd go that far with taking Eli out, I don't think he actually took up that much screentime, and I think Kingdom of the Flies would have been a better feeling conclusion gameplay-wise.
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>>339578604
I'd buy it, but they won't make it. They won't even finish the games story with DLC even if we told them we'd buy it for the price of a new game.
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>>339578483
First Metal Gear came out in 1987.
So about 30 years from development of the first game to the last game. Probably a little longer, given he was an employee before a director.
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>>339578132
Because he mutated the parasites in their friends. Did you forget that bit?
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>>339578675
Yeah I would say a solid 30 years. He was early 20s then.
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>>339577575
>In short, Huey's the only good part about the Story in the Phantom Pain.
Nah, the stuff with Eli was good too, but unfortunately they never finished it.

I think the game was hurt by actually making Venom a clone - it would've been better if Big Boss really was schizo. I walked away from this game with a ton of respect for Venom and contempt for Big Boss.

In the grand scheme of things, Diamond Dogs is a real organization - it's a proper outfit with goals and achievements. Kaz takes everything super seriously (including burgers) and you can see how Venom treats his men as his family. MSF in comparison is Big Boss playing Peter Pan with MSF as the Lost Boys. He doesn't give a damn about his soldiers or a second thought to sacrificing them for his own goals/life.
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>>339578036
pupper
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>>339578675
>>339578761
He joined Konami in 1986.
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>>339576002
The VA nailed this scene good. Goddamn I hated him so much here.
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>>339578739
oh fuck, tru, i totally forgot it lol
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>>339578763
>it would've been better if Big Boss really was schizo. I walked away from this game with a ton of respect for Venom and contempt for Big Boss.
>In the grand scheme of things, Diamond Dogs is a real organization - it's a proper outfit with goals and achievements. Kaz takes everything super seriously (including burgers) and you can see how Venom treats his men as his family. MSF in comparison is Big Boss playing Peter Pan with MSF as the Lost Boys. He doesn't give a damn about his soldiers or a second thought to sacrificing them for his own goals/life.
Isn't that the point?
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>>339578036
SNIPER WOLF
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>>339576002
big boss was a psychopath who misinterpreted the boss' will
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>>339578995
the boss' will was stupid
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>>339578908
I'm not really sure what the point was, and even if it was I don't think that was the strongest way to end the game.

I guess you're right - Solid Snake was right to tell everyone to fuck off. Too bad he got it in the shorts genetically.
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>>339578608
The shit kid pulled the rug from under Skull Face and took over as the game's main antagonist. He was definitely given way more attention for what should've just been a cameo role at most. It's especially baffling because Eli largely gets away with what he does because all the other characters acted like retards towards him.

>Aww, the cute kid totally wants to murder us all, especially you, Boss. Don't you wanna just pinch his cheeks?
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>>339576662
KILL HIM! KILL THAT SON OF A BITCH!
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>>339578995
Fuck the Boss. Her will does't make any sense and she probably just said it to sound cool before she died.
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>>339579047
>>339579189
at least we agree big boss was a bloodthirsty killer
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>>339576662
KILL HIM! KILL THAT SON OF A BITCH!
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>>339579240
The boss is so insane even the ai that is only based on her choices is insane.
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>>339578763
The game was hurt mostly because it didn't even try to do the thing it was supposed to. Who the fuck is Quiet, who is Skullface, who gives a fuck about Cipher, really, why is the game suddenly over?
Nice "missing link", Kojimbo.
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>>339578036
Morpho, Pequod a shit
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>>339578036
DD
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>>339579373
I ain't blaming Kojima for that. It's clear he was unhappy with the direction of the game and it was released against his will. For all we know he was going to throw out the story and start from scratch.
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>>339576662
KILL HIM! THAT SON OF A BITCH!
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>>339578763
>contempt for Big Boss.
Why?
>Big Boss playing Peter Pan with MSF as the Lost Boys. He doesn't give a damn about his soldiers or a second thought to sacrificing them for his own goals/life.

Huh? Did we even play the same game? Big Boss ALWAYS cared about his men. This was made evident in both Portable Ops (yes, it's canon aside from a couple discrepancies) and Peace Walker based on the numerous character interactions that occur in both games.

It was Zero's plan to make a mental doppelganger of Big Boss in case Big Boss never awoke from his coma. When he did awake, Big Boss was in such a desperate spot that he was forced to utilize Venom Snake.

As much as he wanted to get payback against XOF, he needed to rebuild his army in order to take down The Patriots, which posed a much greater threat than Skull Face and XOF. He placed faith in Ocelot and Venom, and it worked. He had the utmost faith in Venom, aka YOU, because Big Boss believed in you and your skills. You the player were just as integral to the story as any of the other characters in MGS. And Big Boss knew that.

Next time You accuse Big Boss about not giving a shit about his comrades, just remember that he had his utmost trust in you in the war against Cipher. "I am you, and you are me. Carry that with you wherever you go. Thank you my friend."
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>>339578995
You'd misenterpret mommy figure's deal too if she was flashing her tiddies right in your face.
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>>339579373
>Who the fuck is Quiet
An enigmatic XOF agent. The mystery behind her makes her character more appealing if you ask me.
>Who is Skullface
An angry Hungarian shadow agent of Fox whose family was killed and his hometown burned down during WWII and later forgot his native tongue and disagreed fundamentally with Zero's ideals.
>who gives a fuck about Cipher
Everybody because they're the precursor to The Patriots.
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>>339576662
KILL HIM! KILL THAT SON OF A BITCH!
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>>339576158
>uuuuh, we aren't judges
>give him some food and a boat

I was so mad, screw you Boss.
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>>339578995
Both Zero AND Big Boss misinterpreted The Boss's will. MGS clearly shows that both characters aren't evil monsters but morally gray human beings. Big Boss and Zero are tragic villains.
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>>339579828
Bra, where the Solid Snake at? Where Sniper Wolf? Where the fuck is my missing link?
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>>339579373
>Who the fuck is Quiet

Quiet is enjoyable in a general sense, but this question is actually a huge problem with her. At the end of the day, we know NOTHING about Quiet. She has no known history prior to the hospital incident, and there's not a single interaction between her and Skull Face even though there logically should be. We even know a lot more about Burger Indian Man than we do about Quiet.

This problem largely stems from two points about Quiet. First is her optional nature. You can choose to shoot her in the face or bypass her entirely. Because of this choice, the game has to assume that she isn't there at all. Therefore she can NEVER take part in the main story, existing only in her side bit. The worst part about this is that the choice is actually a false choice, anyway. There's absolutely no reason to not take her in because all that would do is deprive yourself of content with nothing in return.

The second point is her whole mute thing. While this comes off as cute, the price ends up being that she can NEVER take part in cassette tapes and radio chatter. You know, the methods in which 95% of the story is told.

Talk about wasted potential.
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>>339578995
>>339579932
I think big boss has a few loose screws if his only plan on making earth great again is to sell his army to any wars he feels like.

And also trying to murder anyone that gets in his way.
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I stopped playing these games after Snake Eater


Is there an especially relevant reason for Mantis to be in game?
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>>339579958
Solid Snake, aka "David", was born and raised in a secret military camp operated by The Patriots, and was later recruited into Foxhound when Big Boss resumed leadership of it during the mid-80s, upon which he personally taught Snake CQC

Sniper Wolf was a Kurdish orphan of the Second Iraqi–Kurdish War, which is in a different part of the Middle East. While Venom Snake was combating XOF in Afghanistan. Big Boss was combating Cipher in Iraq while simultaneously taking different PMC contracts to build his army further. He met Wolf while he was in Iraq.

This is all pre-established knowledge anon.
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>>339580073
Pretty much, yeah. He admits in MGS4 that he died inside the moment that he killed the Boss.
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>>339580232
Mantis states in MGS1 that he was an FBI profiler who dove too far into the mind of a serial killer that his evil rubbed off on him and drove him mad. Kojima being the stupid chink he is retconned that. Either Sniper Wolf should have been in this as a young girl or teenager or Gray Fox along with child Naomi Hunter.
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>>339580040
>the price ends up being that she can NEVER take part in cassette tapes and radio chatter.

OK. This is clearly shitpost pasta. You've obviously never even played the game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8ZYvbDaWx4
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>>339580232
Not especially. His whole purpose is just being a macguffin that powers the unstoppable Man on Fire and Sahelanthropus, which gets away with appearing more advanced than Metal Gear REX because it would otherwise be completely inoperable without a psychic kid holding it up.
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>>339580392
>Kojima being the stupid chink he is retconned that
[citation needed]

There's no evidence to prove that Mantis's past was completely retconned.
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>>339576662
KILL HIM! KILL THAT SON OF A BITCH!
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>>339576662
¡MÁTALO! Matar a ese hijo de puta !
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>>339580506
So he fucks off somewhere with boy Liquid and Sehalanthropus and somehow become an FBI profiler in the future (this is a Russian child btw) and somehow gets reunited with his long-lost buddy in FOXHOUND? And Liquid just didn't give a single shit when he died. You expect me to believe that shit?
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>>339578036
Looks like a wolf but could be a dog mix so let's just call him a Dog.
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>>339576662
Zabić! Zabić tego sukinsyna!
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>>339578036
Soldier
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>>339580412
>Nuh-uh! She's technically in this one tape that serves as an emotional climax that can be seen a mile away before she disappears off the face of the game

Nice work with your nit-picking. Now are you going to address the actual points?
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What a shitty game
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>>339578036
>>339580734
Dogs are just wolves we bred for a specific purpose anyway. So the difference is completely moot.
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>>339580686
He was always Russian. They weren't really friends IIRC, he's just in his mind living through Liquid.

Yeah they hold hands, but who knows if that even happened given Venom's insanity.
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>>339580745
fuck off you gopnik dog
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>>339576662
KILL HIM! KILL THAT SON OF A BITCH!
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>>339580860
Prepare to get liberated.
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>We live and die by your orders Boss!

Only good story in the game
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>>339580926
>can't even order them to help you on the ground
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>>339577575
>In short, Huey's the only good part about the Story in the Phantom Pain
Ay, Kaz's characterization (and voice acting) was absolutely brilliant
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>>339578267
I think it's more likely that Konami had to force a deadline or the game would eat even more money and time
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>>339576002
>YOU'RE THE MURDERERS!
What did he mean by this?
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>>339581101
It was good but I felt like he was a little too raspy at times. He probably absolutely destroyed his throat for the role.
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Why does it seem like large manager falls into a coma every other day
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>>339581287
He saw them fucking up their non-lethal runs.
>>339581392
Other comas are retconned or something, fuck if I know.
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>>339581381
Also his voice was kind of inconsistent. Sometimes he sounds more like Peace walker Kaz and other times he sounds like REVENGE Kaz.
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>>339580040
The only good thing about quiet was the silenced tranq sniper to clesr bases without effort
Even her scouting is shit
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>>339581287
A PMC is still a PMC, regardless of who you're fighting or what "side" you're on, because at the end of the day, you're still killing/kidnapping people for a paycheck and dominance

While he has a point about MSF/DD, it's just Huey trying to get a half-assed NO U in before he floats back to the US for his eventual cucking
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>>339576662

KILL HIM! KILL THAT SON OF A BITCH!
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If Skullface was a pre-MGSV style boss fight, what would it be like?
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>>339576662
KILL HIM!
KILL THAT SON OF A BITCH!
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Do you actually fight Eli in the end of part 2? I did the truth at the hospital mission and got the cutscene with what i assumed was the end, but I probably missed something seeing as I didn't do all the reused missions which you had to do to see everything.
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>>339581752
To be honest he wouldn't be a Boss fight. Maybe a CQC fight or something completely unseen before in MGS.

I could see him saying that he knows everything Snake knows since he's watched him for so long. He knows every trick and every move he does.
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>>339582101
>you eventually beat him because he can't read your moves once Venom goes nuclear on him
>"wait, you aren't big boss, who are you? Such a lust for revenge, whooooooo?!"
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>>339577093
I would watch a movie about Kaz "Fulton a coon and I'll shoot the balloon" Miller.
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>>339582101
The only solution is a huge mech battle between you piloting a rebuilt Zeke, and Skully piloting Battle Gear (which Huey only built as a personal battle platform for him in the end)
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Duel in high noon as you control pic related.
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>>339582431
Now that would have actually been cool. I always wanted a controllable Zeke ever since I started building it in Peace Walker. It was understandable then why we couldn't pilot it.

Would have been a fun battle too since the Battle Gear is supposed to be for taking out walkers. Though for this purpose it probably should be much bigger than a tank.
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>>339576128
>>No proof Huey was involved in the destruction of Motherbase
invited XOF, we learned that you worked for them for quite a time

>>No proof Huey murdered Strangelove
except the audio we got on your woman's body

>>No proof Huey intentially made a virus that led to an outbreak
you overlooked the procedures, when you know it destroyed half of the country and half of MB once

>>No proof Huey ever did anything wrong except trust Snake
yet you sold infos to the darpa

get back in the boat huey
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>>339576384
huey was the best written character in MGS5, he stands on his own and isn't just Otacon in a wheelchair
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>>339581752
while this character's background is retarded, he's still supposed to be an effective and deadly agent

it would have been great to try to make a mix of the ocelot unit and the Boss fight, where you have to sneak past his unit to take him down with CQC
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>>339582101
>>339582295
Some psycho mantis style boss where he always has an idea of what you're doing but still gets hit because of subtle differences would be pretty good
Like he would know you're behind cover since he studied you but shoot the one just beside you which leaves him open to attack

Fuck just copy the ocelot fight from mgs1 of you have to just give me more than 2 bossfights
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>>339576662
KILL HIM! KILL THAT SON OF A BITCH!
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>>339576662
KILL HIM! KILL THAT SON OF A BITCH!
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>>339576662
KILL HIM! KILL THAT SON OF A BITCH!
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>>339576662
KILL HIM! KILL THAT SON OF A BITCH!
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>>339576662

KILL HIM! KILL THAT SON OF A BITCH!
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>>339576662
KILL HIM! KILL THAT SON OF A BITCH!
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>>339576662
KILL HIM! KILL THAT SON OF A BITCH!
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>>339578036
Stud for Quiet
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>>339585523
Do we know anything about Kojima's babymama...?
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>>339576662
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KILL HIM! KILL THAT SON OF A BITCH!
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>>339576662
KILL HIM! KILL THAT SON OF A BITCH
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>>339576662
THIS IS THE ENEMY
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KILL HIM! KILL THAT SON OF A BITCH!
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>>339576236
Miller was the best character in the game
I wish we would've gotten actual codec conversations with back and forth dialogue between him and snake
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>>339582927
>invited XOF
I think this is one of those things where Huey really DID just fuck up due to being really fucking naive in that gullible and/or innocent Otacon way the same way he was conned into designing Rex, because no one could've predicted that something like Cipher could go rogue and someone like Zero could be compromised

Fucking retarded, but not malicious, which is why I think Huey going full edgelord in TPP was one of the biggest fucking 180's as far as an established character can go, but it was also still entertaining, and one of the few things about the game that felt Metal Gear-y
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>>339576662
KILL HIM! KILL THAT SON OF A BITCH!
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>>339576662
KILL HIM! KILL THAT SON OF A BTICH!
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>>339577463
>Hurr evry storie shuld hab d saem struktchure
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>>339578995
No, BB at first misinterpreted her will, but at the end of Peace Walker he understands it, and he resents the Boss for it. Peace Walker is the game where Big Boss turns into the villain.
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>>339581040
Needs to be more of these
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>>339580835
>look at my wolf
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>>339593984
Yup, it's the whole reason why he goes on to do what he does. He loses all trust in foreign governments, etc...
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>>339593984
>>339594461
What was her will?
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>>339594683
Who fucking knows.
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>>339576662
KILL HIM! KILL THAT SON OF A BITCH!
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>>339577135
>what do you mean MGSV is an unfinished mess?
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>>339577579
Oh fuck off, it had a fucking huge budget, bigger than MGS4's, and 5 years of deve time. Hell, they sold us the intro for fucks sake, Kojima managed it terribly, shoving in shit that was "in" at the moment like an open world or having a silent protagonist rather than focusing on making a cohesive whole.
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imagine having to put up with Huey's constant bulshit for 9 years
Skullface was the real hero of MGS5
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>>339576158
who is that?!
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>>339595312
i see you are still doing damage control
>every game must be done in 2 years
we have cod for people like you konami fanboy
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>>339578036
ANYONE CAN TELL HE'S CLEARLY A WOLF
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>>339580745
kielbasa
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>>339592028
agreed
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>>339577732
>Lord of the Flies

Okay, I never see this mentioned a lot, but what was with the pointless fucking book allegories in MGSV? I mean it's borderline insulting, having a blonde-haired kid go and make his own no-adults kingdom "of the flies" on a tropical island, all the allusions to Moby Dick with the whale and Pequod, just because that book also features revenge.

Kojima's taken stuff from other media before but this is embarassing, referencing well known stories doesn't make your narrative deep.
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>>339576662
KILL HIM! KILL THAT SON OF A BITCH!
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>>339576662
KILL HIM! KILL THAT SON OF A BITCH!
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>>339576662
"KILL HIM! KILL THAT SON OF A BITCH!"
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>>339576662
KILL HIM! KILL THAT SON OF A BITCH
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>>339576150
But it wasn't BB. Venom didn't really give a fuck, probably felt sorry for the wheelchair guy who killed his lesbian wife who used him as a sperm bank.

Speaking of, who the fuck was taking care of Hal?
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>>339595482
if they kojima another year he would've finished mission 51 and go on more dates with that horse
the game is fucked and he's a hack, face it already
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>>339576002
Was he right though about D Dog? Was it really just a wolf?
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>>339596195
Venom and the player literally believed themselves to be BB and acted accordingly like him though.
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>>339576662
KILL HIM! KILL THAT SON OF A BITCH!
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>>339595482
How is it damage control to put a lot of the blame on Kojima? Konami are the shittest gaming company around right now, but to act like Kojima is this infallible god who can do no wrong is retarded.

MGSV wasn't just an issue of not having enough time, it had bad design decisions from the get go that are undeniably Kojima's fault.
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>>339576857
Kaz getting no payoff throughout the story is the phantom pain itself
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>>339576662

KILL HIM! KILL THAT SON OF A BITCH!
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>>339576740
This
>tfw we'll never have a wild crazy saga like this again
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>>339576857
Blame the game being unfinished

The old man even talked about Miller going crazy
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>>339576662
KILL HIM!
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>>339576002
>You're all crazy because... because... you called a wolf a "dog"!
Really, Huey? That's your comeback argument?
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>>339594683
Drop your gun, and let the world be.
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>>339598527
Is that true? Then what did boss and zero do?
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>>339594683

Her will was really just the end of the Cold War. BB was just traumatized, and he and zero both impressed their own views onto her.
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>>339580040
Quiet worked for an enemy force that wiped an entire hospital and tried to kill me with all she had.

Then she tried to kill me again. More than enough reason to unload my 9 on her fucking face.

She's a non character who would have done nothing throughout the entire game anyway. She was only relevant at the beginning, so that's where I decided to end her role.

Besides, Kaz is my bro while Ocelot is just fucking with me and working for someone else. If Kaz says to pacify a bitch, I pacify the bitch.
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>>339578036
My go-to jeep passenger for travelling.
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KILL HIM! KILL THAT SON OF A BITCH!
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>>339598779
they didn't listen to her because she had spent the whole of Jack's life making him into a soldier
she literally just up and said "lmao all that shit we did was dumb go do something else k" when she died
the boss was a hippy retard who can't into realistic world politics
she unironically deserves to be kept alive and tortured as an AI forever
she caused LITERALLY everything to go wrong since WWII
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>>339580810
>being proven wrong is nitpicking
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>>339599285
Not him, but come on dude, she's in one tape, that's barely contributing to the plot at all.
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>>339599285
Havent played the game for 6 months, worth playing?
Any cool patches or updates?
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>>339599374
Custom missions and maps are coming
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>>339576662
KILL HIM! KILL THAT SON OF A BITCH!
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>>339595312
That 5 years was for the Fox engine and MGSV. Do you know how long it takes to make an engine?
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So are we ever getting our ending or is the franchise forever tainted with the story loose ends never being tied up?
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>>339599605
Source that isn't a shitty baseless rumor coming from """"""""""sources"""""""""?
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>>339599816
The Phanton Pain's Afghanistan was first shown off in a playable state in 2013. They had plenty of time to make it not shit.
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>>339576662
KILL HIM! KILL THAT SON OF A BITCH!
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>>339576662
KILL HIM! KILL THAT SON OF A BITCH!
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Kaz was paranoid
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>>339600078
I just heard that from here, you can go look it up if you want idc
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>>339576002
>All I did was devote my life to creating war machines that could shed blood better than all other war machines! I'm innocent! It's not my fault if you use my super-kill-mechs to kill people!
Huey is the most insufferable fuckup.
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>>339576662
KILL HIM! KILL THAT SON OF A BITCH!
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>>339600354
Google it, it's a completely baseless rumor.
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>>339600225
I work as a software engineer. Trust me, getting shit from "kinda working" to "working mostly bug-free" is 80% of the development time.
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>>339578036
Pupper
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>>339594683
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>>339582295
>defeating him sparks the revelation that you weren't big boss and puts you on the road to the truth
That would have been some solid writing
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>>339576662
KILL HIM! KILL THAT SON OF A BITCH!
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>>339601061
man sunny is too sexy in that game.

tfw no sexy cute engineer girl
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>>339576662
KILL HIM! KILL THAT SON OF A BITCH!
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>>339601236
Get the fuck out of here with your fanfic. Venom was VERY obviously not happy with the deal he was cut and only a complete autist wouldn't be able to see it. He punched the mirror in rage as ominous music played.

Big Boss was hunted and killed because "a Big Boss" showed up in the military fortress Outer Heaven. All Venom had to do to protect Big Boss was to not show up. But he did.

He showed up because, just like Kaz, he was getting back at Big Boss.

Venom painted the target on Big Boss' ass, Kaz made sure his student finished the job.

As Kaz says LITERALLY, he supports the Phantom and Big Boss' son to send Big Boss to hell.
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>>339576662
KILL HIM! KILL THAT SON OF A BITCH!
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>>339576662
KILL HIM! THAT SON OF A BITCH!
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>>339576384
Before MGSV - I don't get why Otacon hates his dad

After MGSV - I understand
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>>339576662
KILL HIM! KILL THAT SON OF A BITCH!
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>>339576662
KILL HIM! KILL THAT SON OF A BITCH!
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>>339576662
KILL HIM! KILL THAT SON OF A BITCH!
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>>339576662

DIE HUEY DIE
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>>339576662
KILL HIM! KILL THAT SON OF A BITCH!
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>>339576662
KIll HIM! KILL THAT SON OF A BITCH!
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>>339581752
When you start thinking how dumb a boss fight with him would be, you actually begin to respect how his death was handled in MGSV. Like Venom, you may or may not feel grudge against him, and at the end whether you do or do not pull the trigger, your actual revenge is stripped from you by a paraplegic cuck. Skull Face's death brings no disclosure or satisfaction. You think and kind of hope the game would end while at the same time thinking, "this can't be the end, not like this, not yet."

Phantom Pain is deeply flawed but it got things like this so right it hurts to think how they fucked up some other aspects.
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>>339578995
Why on earth would anyone want to have anything to do with The Boss' will? It's just, like, her opinion man. So what if she's the best soldier and so on and so forth, that doesn't give her any authority over other people's lives.
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>>339602934
spotted the kojicuck
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>>339576662
KILL HIM! KILL THAT SON OF A BITCH!
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>>339576662
KILL HIM! KILL THAT SON OF A BITCH!
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>>339576662
Kill him! Kill that son of a bitch!
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>>339576307
Okay huey
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>>339576662
KILL HIM! KILL THAT SON OF A BITCH!
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>>339595478
oh shit, never peeped that. looks like uncooked Volgin, but how could that be...?
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>>339578995
Anyone else hate how the Boss' will ended up consuming the whole franchise? Like everything after mgs3 relates back to her.
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