What went wrong with sonic the hedgehog?
>>339530710
Sonic Xtreme
internet, and tom kalinske
Did SonicRetro/Newgrounds/furaffinity/deviantart go down? Or are Sonicfags trying to compete with Overwatch for dominance of /v/? I mean I'm not complaining or anything, I like Sonic as much as the next guy, but the spike in Sonic threads the last two weeks has been absolutely unfathomable. I'm sure there's already three on the board besides this.
>>339532019
There's been big Sonic news on the horizon regarding Sonic's 25th anniversary.
So it makes sense that there's more threads cropping up
Every game after SA2 was either was a buggy mess or had forced gimmicks.
>>339530710
Internet.
>>339530710
What went wrong with your pic? It's not even funny
>>339532765
>Every game after SA2 was either was a buggy mess or had forced gimmicks
>after SA2
Are you misremembering the Adventure series? They literally invented the trend of forcing non-Sonic playstyles on you in an engine that has the stability of tissue paper
>>339532939
>>339530710
autists found him and Sega made a bunch of shitty games
>What went wrong with sonic the hedgehog?
Adventure
The acceptance of that game was Sonic's downfall.
>>339533031
>>339532710
Plus people think they're going to make a decent game this time.
>339533272
>implying the genesis games weren't shit and adventure 2 the advance, rush. and boost-style weren't better than them
>>339533683
Here we fucking go.
>>339533591
>classic sonic
>decent
>>339533929
cute b8
>tfw like classic adventure and boost
>>339533683
>>339533929
When did this level of contrarianism become cool? I saw one of you "genesis Sonic sucks" faggots defending the so-called good points of Sonic 2006 the other day, talking about how "if it had X more months of dev time and they removed Y and Z, it'd be a good game". Don't you get enough (You)'s as it is? What more do you want out of us? Can you even explain why classic Sonic isn't your cup of tea or will you just spout memes like "can't see far enough ahead of you" and then insult classic fans instead of the games themselves?
I just don't get it. If it's not just baiting then please help me understand
>>339534405
when did i defend 06? thats a shit game too bud. but i can't shit on the definition of the term "sacred cow" that is the 2d sonic games on the genesis? while you fuckers shit on every fucking game past those fucking 4 games.
>>339535048
At least defend your position. Personally I like the Genesis titles, the Advances, the Boost trilogy and Adventures. I like all types of Sonic gameplay a decent amount. But with that said, there's been a recent influx of people dicking on classic Sonic with no reasons (no good ones anyway) given, leading me to believe they're only doing it out of spite for classicfags rather than dislike for the classic games themselves, which in my opinion is just kind of pathetic.
Went wrong: genesis
Went right: dreamcast and gameboy advance
Went wrong again: shadow and 06
Went right and has been right: ds and starting from unleashed
there
Sonic BOOM
>>339537043
>Went wrong: genesis
ha
>>339537439
Those games are boring as shit and fucking suck to play. Sorry kid, your 25 years of dickriding are getting exposed for the load of crap they are. I just tried to replay them and couldnt have been any more bored. Mario and the SNES kicked ass all the way back then until the series started getting good with adventure and advance.
fandom
2d sonic is more fun but 3d sonic is hotter
>>339537698
>kid
>your 25 years of dickriding
>25 years
>kid
stopped reading there, this is just unreasonable bait
>>339530710
Sonic Adventure. It was just "going fast" for its own sake rather than as a means to beat levels. It was more about making Sonic look cool than having compelling gameplay or level design. Style over substance.
Shit only got worse until it just got weird, then spiraled out of control into the grotesque mess it is now. The fan autism only compounds the weirdness but it's the only entertainment you'll get out of the series these days. That and Sonic twitter.
>>339539461
autism
>>339540013
Found the SA baby
>>339540330
retro sonic post no. 3901904901212
>>339540393
All those posts later and it's still right
>>339540393
adventure 2 post no. 865949357385668
>>339540709
retro sonic post no. 3901904901213
>>339540756
Adventurefags showing their subhuman intelligence. What else is new?
>>339540932
retro sonic post no. 3901904901214
>>339540996
What exactly is your point
>>339530710
The thing is, people always try pinning it one individual games when it was pretty clearly a downward decline since the beginning. Do people not remember Sonic Labyrinth? Sonic 3D Blast?
With that being said, if I WERE forced to pinpoint a game where it all went wrong, I guess Adventure 2, but I actually like that game. It sits in a weird nether region like Final Fantasy 7 where it is simultaneously the last truly good game of it's franchise and the first truly bad one... If that makes any sense whatsoever.
>>339541301
retro sonic post no. 3901904901215
>>339530710
The third dimension.
>>339533683
I'll give you a (you)
best I can do
>>339541301
don't bother responding to him, he's been doing that in Sonic threads for weeks. I like the Adventures and boost games but every time I've said something remotely complimentary towards the classics he does that shit. It's not worth the hassle, don't give him your (You)'s
>>339530710
Don't you mean what went right?
He's a dead character on life support because Sega won't drop his failed ass
>>339541462
retro sonic post no. 3901904901216
>>339541479
retro sonic post no. 3901904901217
>>339541479
Wow, that's reallyautistic
>what went wrong
Everything, Sonic was always a garbage character. Sonic games were always shit
>>339541664
This is the main case although there are redeemable games, such as sonic adventure, sonic unleashed, sonic generations, and sonic advance.
>>339533096
>autists found him
friend, you misunderstand.
Sonic wasn't found by autists. Sonic CREATED autists. I am absolutely certain that prolonged exposure to Sonic as a child raises their likelihood of developing autism spectrums later in life
>>339541772
The Adventure style was always shit except in one game, Sonic Heroes. Sonic Heroes would have been a good game if the level design wasn't so awful.
3D Sonic was only good with Colors and Unleashed
Releasing spinoff after spinoff really damages the image of a franchise.
>>339541797
>mfw I was becoming obsessed with Sonic shit when I was around 7 but I grew out of it after a year or two
thank god that was just a phase. There was a period of time where I was thinking up fan fiction-y shit in my head and imagining other fictional works with sonic inserted into them. I was almost ruined.
>>339542089
While that is mostly true, there a few stages that prove that statement wrong. Emerald coast, speed highway, red mountain, green forest, radical highway, final rush, sky rail, white jungle, and city escape prove there are good levels to be found in adventure. I actually forgot sonic heroes too. I actually really like sonic heroes and it had a good balance of speed, action, and platforming and the music and art style was so pleasant. I cant rag on heroes because i enjoy it a lot.
Colors is a 2D game. Unleashed is the best 3D game. Boost revived the series because it was clear by sonic 06, the adventure formula wasnt impressive enough for 7th gen standards. It worked as a template for 6th gen platformers, but beyond that it doesnt hold up. Unleashed revived the series and gave it proper direction and also happens to be the best 3D one
Objectively speaking, things went wrong in 2005 and 2006, Sonic lost whatever reputation he had left after Shadow the Hedgehog and Sonic 06.
>>339542668
>3 good gameboy games followed by a solid ds entry werent enough to cushion the fall of shadow and 06
>that fucking feel
>like classic Sonic but if I dare mention it in any thread I get jumped on by Adventure autists
>like Adventure Sonic but if I dare mention it in any thread I get jumped on by Boost babies
>like Boost Sonic but if I dare mention it in any thread I get jumped on by Classic cucks
I fucking hate this fanbase. How am I supposed to win? Sit here talking about Sonic fucking Eraser and Waku Waku Sonic Police Car until the cows come home? Or should I just become one of the Rouge's tits shitposters? They're clearly the only ones ever enjoying themselves in these threads.
>>339530710
Classic games:
Yuji Naka: Programmer
Takashi Iizuka: Level creator grunt work
Hirokazu Yasuhara: Lead level designer
Adventure-era games:
Yuji Naka: Producer
Takashi Iizuka: Director
Hirokazu Yasuhara: Nothing, left Sega in 2001
So instead of handing the franchise to the guy who knew what he was doing, they gave it to the guy who only wanted Sonic to be a fast Mario, and a guy who wanted to add more characters and gimmicks to non-Sonic fans instead of perfecting Sonic's gameplay.
Is Sky Deck the worst level of the series (outside Sonic 06 and Shadow the Hedgehog)?
>How am I supposed to win?
By not being part of the Sonic fanbase.
>>339543390
>faster mario
Just like what Sonic was originally supposed to be but wasn't because the levels in the old games sucked ass and had garbage level design! You get triggered when Sonic actually goes fast? Kill yourself.
>>339530710
It's fanbase went wrong.
>>339543547
>levels in the old games sucked ass and had garbage level design
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're not trolling. Please explain to me why the level design in the old Sonic games is bad.
>>339543690
run > wall/spike > run > gimmick that makes you go faster > wall/spike > walk > get hit by badly put enemy > walk > theres some platforms setup like stairs so you have to jump 5+ times to get up > get hit > walk > get hit > 2-3 minutes later > finally back to running > 3 seconds later, its just hitting the goal post
What's been happening to this fandom? Now people are hating on classic sonic? People not liking the SA trilogy, I understand. But the classic games are bad now?
>>339543390
This, Sonic died when Yasuhara left the company. Supposedly this quote is from him, but I can't find the source:
>"I was opposed to [Sega's] decision to create games that use 'Sonic-something' so that they can sell it easily. I wanted to make good games, not any games that used the Sonic character in a haphazard way."
>>339530710
Nothing went wrong in the games, it was just the shitty fanbase and Sega's decision
to do what they wanted
>>339543857
>Lesbian Space Rocks
wew lad
>>339543857
I don't get it either, and it pisses me off. I think it's just because some popular internet personalities started saying the old games are shit, so the kids who don't know any better just parrot their opinions.
>>339543854
I meant a coherent argument. At least now I know you were baiting, you really rinsed me of my (You)'s laddy
>>339544010
It's just a reaction image.
>>339544134
I posted the formula and average run through of a classic sonic level. Its a bad slow formula. Its the antithesis of what sonic was supposed to be. But since all you can do is cry and shit yourself when someone challenges your garbage 'classics', have a (you) right back and go fuck yourself. Actually these posts might be helpful because they summarize what you classic autists are and why youre not worth expending time on
retro sonic post no. 3901904901218
>>339544343
>If he doesn't agree with me, he's a retrofag
Not even that anon but stop it.
>>339543857
>Now people are hating on classic sonic?
Nah, it's a reactionary thing. Stick around for a few more Sonic threads, you'll notice a lot of classic """"hate"""" but most of it is either really incredibly weak non-arguments, or it's aimed at classicfags rather than the classic games themselves.
It's basically the same thing as with Melee and Pokemon Red/Blue. People are backlashing against fans of older games just because they're old, and because they're tired of hearing about the classics I guess. You won't find a solid argument against the games themselves.
>>339544510
Kek, thats all anyone is. If I had no friends to talk about different Sonic games besides those turds released on the Genesis, I'd be miserable. Setting up the GC and playing through heroes or adventure 2 and linking up our GBAs to play multiplayer on advance is great.
The old games have a nice aesthetic and concepts, thats about it. They play and are designed like shit. All retrofags do is shit up sonic threads with their terrible opinions and shut out anything that doesn't revolve around praising them.
>>339543857
I haven't seen many people hating on Classic Sonic, the ones who do are usually just parroting Egoraptor or some other shitty e-celeb to get a lot of (You)s.
>>339542860
Shadow and 06 were the high profile games while the Advance/Rush series were treated as handheld spin-offs.
>>339544781
>>339544540
>>339544117
Eh. Well at least I understand some of the reasons people are saying this.
>>339530710
Archie
>>339544343
>Its the antithesis of what sonic was supposed to be.
No, it's not, you just don't understand the series.
Sonic would not have been designed as a hedgehog that curls up into a ball if he wasn't meant to gain momentum when he rolls down hills. It's obvious the character was deliberately designed for a unique style of physics-based platforming where the sense of speed comes from a character that has a real sense of momentum and inertia.
>>339544978
Yeah, it's fair enough that they'd be pissed off at constant oldfags, but it's swung too far in the other direction imo. Can't even mention the classics without one of these autists (and I'm sure there's only about four of them) trying to belittle you for it. See >>339543319 regarding the current state of Sonic threads, they're all cancer. Jump aboard the ironic shitposting, post bat tits, or get out while you can
>ten years from now when the 8 year olds playing Boom are old enough to post here, they'll be telling the Adventurefags and Boostfags that their games aren't any better and that it's just their nostalgia blinding them
Get me off this planet
>>339543319
>I like all three
Does this mean I'll be accepted or hated by everybody?
>>339548291
It depends on the structure of your posts. Similar to PC master race kids straight out of reddit, if you go out of your way to take potshots at non classic sonic games or prefer them above anything else, then you deserve nothing more than a retro sonic post no. x reply. But if its fairly even or you have a non generic stale opinion, then you'll be good
>>339544540
In the case of Melee it's because the fans are obnoxious purists, they bring the hate upon themselves.
In the case of Red/Blue it's more hate of gen one only fags who either aren't really fans of the series or like to point at flaws in later games while ignoring that the same flaws exist in the originals.
>>339548291
You'll probably be hated by everybody. Also don't mention classic or that one salty retro sonic post no. 309049505 guy will (You) the fuck out of you
>>339548492
Well, sure. Point is, it's autistic hatred for the fanbases, not the games themselves, which seems to be the case with the two or three anti-classic guys in these threads recently.
>>339530710
Sonic Team went insane, either ignoring their fanbase outright or handling their requests so badly that their features become twisted abominations which barely resemble their original intentions, but nonetheless are easy enough to villify for the purposes of development.
For a similar situation, look at DmC.
>Sells well: "People like this new reboot! Guess we'll keep making stuff like this."
>Sells badly: "Looks like nobody wants Devil May Cry anymore. Better discontinue it!"
>Collection sells well: "lul whut does that mean we're busy with our reboot over here"
>>339548764
>handling their requests so badly that their features become twisted abominations which barely resemble their original intentions
It's almost upsetting how true that is. They raped the classic style with Sonic 4. And now people are asking for Adventure 3? I don't think they realize that Sonic Team is a monkey paw situation, if we get Sonic Adventure 3 it will NOT be the Adventure 2 sequel people have been hoping to see for years. It'll be the worst case scenario of SA3. It'll be Sonic 06-2, or something like that. I fear the worst
>>339549389
ST was restaffed or positions were heavily reshuffled after 06 you retard. Unleashed was a breath of fresh air and came out when it was needed most. ST was losing their minds with shadow and 06 and sega forced them to rush each out, resulting in what they came to be.
There hasnt been a bad sonic game since then outside of boom, which is again a result of sega rushing it out, but its not STs fault either since they did nothing. SA3 if it were this years game might be underwhelming or not a direct sequel to 2, but it will not be bad by any means outside of classic sonic shitheads and retarded game journalists mucking up the name and title once more.
>>339549389
If they're going to make SA3, they're better bring this guy back.
>>339549657
>There hasnt been a bad sonic game since then outside of boom
Not that anon but I played Lost World and it was pretty shit, I'll be disappointed if they don't go back to boost gameplay
>>339549891
Black Knight and unleashed were his last projects before ken pontac and warren graff took over and made the series writing complete shit starting with colors. Shiro definitely needs to make a return though
>>339549956
It wasnt shit in the slightest. That would be an example of an underwhelming one. Its not a particularly sonic like game and nowhere near as good as a boost game, but it doesn't mean there isnt some good ideas, levels, and music buried underneath it. Its a solid 7/10, nothing offensive, competently put together, just not that exciting
>>339543857
It's eating itself alive is what's happening.
Sonic's fandom was always divided into different groups of who thought what he should be.
Classic fans want momentum based platformers
Adventure fans want multi gameplay styles and chao gardens
Boost fans want to go fast with style
And they've always attacked each other, it's only recently with the anniversary and there being talk of a game in the works that the groups are at their height of scorning each other and hopes of getting the game that group desires.
The only wrong thing I see here is that nobody's dumping the last chapters of TGT. I need to know what happened when we left the boat.
>>339550460
This is pretty true to. I fall between group 2 and 3. I sleep soundly at night knowing Sega and sonic team will never make a sequel to the shitty classics and classic faggots will have to resort to 1 fangame with 1 level per year to get their fix while the series can move on with new ideas. The series has been in total stagnation since 2010 with sonic 4 and its just so stale now. 2D. No story. Rehashing bosses and zones from old games. I can't wait for the new game to break this shitty mold so we can get some new fucking content and hopefully a fresh perspective. In the mean time, adventure, heroes, and unleashed it is for me. Black knight with an emulator and mapped motion controls is decent too
>>339530710
They can't find consistency. That's what happened.
They managed a pretty consistent gameplay and brand from 1991 up until 1994 and then it's mostly been a clusterfuck ever since. The Advance games were pretty consistent between games which is why they're quite highly praised. There was a level of consistency between Unleashed, Colors and Gens too, each one improving upon the last, which was really helping Sonic's reputation a lot, but then they went and fucked it with Lost World and Boom.
I don't believe in franchises staying the same forever like Pokemon does but Sonic's main problem is that he can't settle on something he's good at and stick with it for a decent line of games. Every time they get the gears turning smoothly they go back to the drawing board, Christ knows why
>>339530710
they hired Taxman for remakes only and didn't make use of his talent on bigger things
>>339550212
Lost World was absolute dogshit from top to bottom. The worst physics in the franchise, yes worse than 06, parkour mechanics that only worked properly half the time, trial-and-error enemies that made no sense, reprised Wisp mechanics that were made worse since they didn't have the entire game built around them like in Colors, and the bosses are both pathetically easy and excruciatingly annoying since you have to listen to them being retarded throughout the levels. Not to mention the countless shitty gimmicks thrown in, most of which fuck up the core gameplay.
>>339551548
>The worst physics in the franchise, yes worse than 06
Woah there fella, I hate Lost World as much as the next guy but that's just literally not possible
>>339551548
Oh yeah, and I forget to mention the boring overworld and braindead decision to gate progress on animals rescued, forcing you to replay missions over and over. Because everyone fucking loved the medal collecting in Unleashed.
>>339551698
The only thing that made Lost World's physics issues less noticeable was that it was technically a completed game. The level design, while blocky and boring, did enough to hide the physics problems that they weren't as in-your-face as 06. But they were still purtrid.
>>339551548
Physics werent that bad, its just that holding accelerate was needed since the default speed was to low to make any meaningful jumps
Parkor worked for me when it needed to, did take some getting used to though i admit
Enemies...youre complaining that the fucking enemies that die in a hop or spin dash are to hard. Nah m8
Wisps had no reason to return, agreed. They fucking sucked to use until the patch
Bosses were terrible, final boss was a fucking joke, yes
Im not claiming its good or great, its just an average game thats forgettable and really has no reason to exist besides as a stopgap game while the anniversary game takes priority. I never replayed it after finding all the red star rings and I enjoyed it while I was playing it, but it has no hook, some levels really drag on and are just boring, theres to much 2D, its as slow as a genesis game. I will revise my 7/10 to 6.5/10 now that you brought these up. Still had fun with it though despite its flaws
>>339552282
I didn't say the enemies were hard, I said they were trial-and-error. Learn the difference.
>>339551296
I'm pretty sure that due to SEGA's restructuring during the 2013-2014 period, Taxman currently has shaky connections with SEGA at best. That's why we didn't see Taxman Sonic 1 and 2 released on PC/consoles, it's why we won't see Taxman Sonic 3 (that and the plentiful music copyright issues) and it's why we'll CERTAINLY never see Taxman Sonic 5, although I'd fuckin' love to see it happen.
>>339552945
>Sonic 5
No, if they make another 2D Sonic game, it can't acknowledge the existence of Sonic 4.
>>339553214
What could they call a potential Taxman Sonic then? It would need to be clear that they're cashing in on classic Sonic so they could get the normie audience on board, but Sonic 4 already tarnished a solid name
>>339553415
5onic the Hedgehog
>>339552680
You tap a again to kick it during a homing attack. You jump and theres a target of its weak point. Enemies arent trial and error in 3D games
Mephiles is king
>>339553415
Sonic Feel
Sonic Re-Take
Sonic Phoenix
Sonic Redemption
Sonic Legacy
>>339554101
Those all sound edgy deviantart Adventure-era as fuck, except Sonic Feel, although that doesn't exactly give classic Sonic vibes either
>>339553415
Neon Genesis Sonic
>>339530710
People started lewding up the badniks is what happened. I don't know why, but lewded up vidya enemies is probably the single thing that unnerves me the most. R34, I'm fine with. R63 of the main characters, I'm fine with. Hell, regular R34 of the enemies, I'm fine with. There's just something conflating when you see someone draw those fucking wheelbugs as a THICC cutie girl with skates.
>>339553415
Sonic V1. Sonic 4 is a tarnished name, but they don't need to directly reference it. Instead it's semi-hinted at with V=5, but calling it V1 (sequels would be V2, V3, V3&Knuckles, etc.) still says that it's going in a different direction than 4 did. V1, V2, V3 and V4 are also legitimate aviation terms referring to different airspace velocities, and of course "V" refers to velocity in general. It also just sounds cool to elementary school kids, like Sonic in general.
I cant wait for this series to die. The next game will be the one that breaks the camels back.
>>339554945
>V3&Knuckles
kek
>>339555028
keep dreaming cuck, people have been saying that since the SEGA saturn but here we are. If you're that averse to Sonic then block the threads and go about your life as usual. Some of us still like Sonic (the good one anyway - even the most die-hard fan will admit he's had as much hits as misses)
>>339530710
desu if this game would been released I think the fan bases would still be together and SA1 and SA2 would of been different
>>339556749
That game looked atrocious. Like a mix between the most boring parts of Sonic 3D Blast, and Bug! for the Saturn, complete with that disorienting fish-eye effect. I'm pretty sure that one of the developers went on to join the Sonic Boom team, we all know how well that went, and at one point they were even planning on adding the faggy cartoon characters like Sally Acorn to X-Treme.
The Saturn needed a real Sonic game to save SEGA and the Sonic franchise, but this game was NOT going to be it. They did the right thing by axing it.
>>339556749
>garbage gimmick with babby's first OC as a love interest that literally nobody in Sega gave two shits about outside of half a dozen people at STI
The game deserved to die.
>>339553415
Sonic the Hedgehog 4: Redemption
The other one can be given a new generic retcon title with a patch: "Sonic Sidescroller 2010" or something like that.
>>339543857
>tfw you started the "shit on classic sonic" meme and it's finally catching on
>>339557050
>>339557065
What this game looks awesome
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jFMWrrls7ro
Also there was a good reason for the fish eye effect https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NLIuGgIfMHg
>>339557651
>catching on
it's like two guys in most threads, they're just shitposting really loudly
>>339552945
>Taxman currently has shaky connections with SEGA at best
Okay, but why? He didn't do anything wrong.
>>339558010
would expect it to be more Sega's fuckups rather than his own
keep in mind, the PC port of Sonic CD was a separate port of his mobile port (even though he already had a PC build which he used during testing)
>>339557782
Yeah, but if I've learned anything in the ten years I've been here, it's that normalfags, newfags, and underage love to try to "fit in" with the opinions here when they aren't "trolling" or "baiting". If you can make it seem like a bunch of people hate classic sonic, others will join in on posting hate towards classic, even if they don't share the sentiment. It's like this towards everything here and across the internet.
>>339558010
literally just because of SEGA's restructuring in the last few years. He didn't say specifics but presumably the contacts he had at SEGA are in different positions now, or don't work there altogether anymore, or it's some kind of budgetary thing. Your guess is as good as mine. Probably a combination of all three. SEGA is a fucking nightmare to work with historically, I can't say I'm surprised
>>339557774
Looks kind of like what Lost World became
>>339557774
The fisheye wouldn't be needed if they made an actual 3D game like they should've.
>>339558262
this seems redundant. "normalfags, newfags and underage" already hate classic Sonic. They hate all Sonic, because GameGrumps told them to. Nothing will change
>>339557065
Nobody in Sega even knew about the project because it was kept top-secret to the point that it was actually hurting development. Anyone not on the team that knew about the project was pretty much almost entirely in the dark and saw tiny snippets at best.
>>339558393
At the time X-Treme was being made, no one really knew what a 3D platformer would look like. Crash uses extremely linear levels with a fixed camera path system, Jumping Flash is a first person game, Bubsy 3D... is actually pretty much Jumping Flash done wrong, and there wasn't anything like Mario 64 when it came out. Alpha Waves... was near unheard of (it does the right thing for the most part though). This was entirely an unsolved problem.
The fisheye is probably a bad idea though. It's disorientating and fucks with your spatial perception, making navigating the stages confusing. A dynamically zooming camera would have worked better if they weren't going to orbit the camera around Sonic.
>>339558525
Perhaps but they aren't as vocal about it as those that bag on Modern games. The time WILL come, I assure you.
>>339559239
I don't know what you think you're trying to achieve but you sound edgy as fuck and the people who like classic will continue to do so just like the people who like adventure will continue to do so. Have fun with your "scheme" though I guess, whatever your end goal is
>>339559870
I appreciate the support, amigo
>>339530710
Here you go
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ON70qr7h8M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gu_sC4HoXP0
>>339530710
Yasuhara, the only guy who could make competent Sonic level design, left during the Adventure era (although to my knowledge he didn't work on the Adventures) because he couldn't stand the direction SEGA was taking Sonic in, and didn't want SEGA to just throw Sonic into every genre and game possible. Nobody since has even come close to his level design skill
