I'm getting this. This will clearly last me for the next 2 years.
I hope so, anon.
>>339446705
s-sure it will
>>339446705
not waiting for the 1080 TI which will last you for the next 4 years
>>339446978
>Not waiting for the Super Titan X which will last you for the next 2 million years
You should not change GC each generations. If you have a 770, in that case its useful
>>339447092
I already bought 4 of those anon. they only lasted me 1 million years. Nividia jewd me again.
Enjoy your new card OP.
I'm sticking with my 980 Ti if I can find one cheap I'll be getting a 2nd one for SLI.
Hoping this will last for till Volta chips.
I honestly don't think I'll be that into gaming by that time though. life is rough & full of work
>>339446705
Should last you awhile. I'm not upgrading for quite awhile because I get pretty solid performance in most games. Won't be making the switch to a higher rez/refresh rate monitor for awhile. Still on 1080p 60hz monitor so there's no reason to need anything over 60fps.
>only 2
Is that the life expectancy of GPUs nowadays?
>>339448214
144hz is really pleasant to the eye though, providing the game is not fucking capped at 60
>>339448289
Depends. At just 1080p the 1070 will probably last much longer than 2 years.
>>339448289
Not really these gpus are meant for 1080+ resolutions so it should last longer.
Meanwhile these will last us for the whole generation.
>>339448908
yeah but its a shitty generation
>>339448908
Then what are the power boosts for?
>>339448908
>4.5
lol
>>339449010
Nope. This is going to be a slick buttery smooth generation.
>>339449478
full of screenshots? This console generation is buttery, but the kind of butter you get when you leave butter out in the sun for a few weeks and it gets chunky.
>>339446705
>buying the reference card
You're dumb.I preordered two EVGA FTWs.
>>339446705
Clearly a card that can't even handle 4k will last you for the two years in which 4k will be pushed to the mainstream.
Tell me where the logic in this fails. Also, the 1080 does 1440p better also and can really make use of Gsynch/Freesynch, unlike this card which can't go over 80fps in 1440. Nice poorfag card.
>>339446705
>not waiting for the 1080Ti
I'm probably going to get the 1070 as well. I could get Polaris depending on how good it is though.
>>339447221
No they didn't. 1 million x 4 = 4 million. Did you even do the math?
>>339446705
>people buying "upgrade" cards that don't even have at least a 144 hz gsync/freesync 1080P 24" monitor don't need it.
>>339446705
Hopefully. The voltages running over the transistors seems quite high for almost half the size.
I worry about longevity as we continue to move to smaller and smaller nodes. I wouldn't be surprised to see many of these die in less than 5 years
>>339449931
>he's falling for the resolution meme instead of just increasing his framerate at 1080p
>>339449010
Its not shitty at all actually. What's great is that the low performance requirements but easy compatibility make games run faster on better hardware. PCs should be able to easily run multiple games at once for better multiplayer.
The key massive improvements to this generation is a huge push towards better multi threading. The challenge of working with Kabini means we should see large performance gains in ports with multicore CPUs like the i7s and FX processors
>>339450103
I'm buying it because I just built a 1080p set up (been waiting for this or Polaris to get a graphics card though). The 1070 will be able to handle anything at 1080p until 4k monitors and hardware that can run games at 4k is more affordable. $379 is worth it for something that'll last 3 years for me.
>>339448289
I'm still using a DX10 GPU and I'm fine.
>>339446705
see you in 8 months for that buyers remorse thread
>>339450667
The other is GPGPU utilization. Coders will make better use of our GPUs without depending on closed source unoptimized BS like Physx and Gameworks.
The developers will control the software not Nvidia. If you wonder why Fallout 4 runs so bad blame Nvidia and Bethesda's partnership. Nvidia always pushes proprietary code. It has hurt engines in the long run. AMD has been against coding like that for a little more that half a decade. Games run better now across both vender's hardware because of it
>>339450782
If those things are right, and the R9 480 family follow the bellow $300 price tag. Why buy Nvidia for 1080p.
>>339448908
>spends hunders of dollars for one part of your pc
>one fucking part
>that you'll have to update in 2 years
>2 fucking years
>not buying a PS4™ that will last you for 10 years
jfc
>>339451136
forgot the link http://videocardz.com/60253/amd-radeon-r9-480-3dmark11-benchmarks
>>339451136
I said I'll get Polaris if that is better. The only reason I'd be tempted to go Nvidia even if the price/performance is worse is because of the features Nvidia has, like game streaming if I wanted to get a shield or other streaming device. I'm not a fanboy, I'm waiting to make a decision once the benchmarks and pricing are out for both cards.
I just bought everything except the CPU, GPU's, and mobo since they are not out yet. Already got some stuff in the mail.
>>339451143
"have to" update.
shits optional.
>>339448289
For Nivida gimpjobs yeah.
>>339448908
>>339451143
Both consoles are getting upgrades just like a PC by next year, it's no different now. Unless you really want the PS/Xbox exclusives, you might as well just build a gayman PC at this point.
>>339448908
I wanna play games, not powerpoint presentations.
if any of you guys buy the 1080 you are a complete moron, GDDR5X is in no way an upgrade for the new hybrid memory like the HBM2
When it first came out it was just a gimmicky cheaper alternative to HBM2, nobody was gonna use it because its shit. Then Nvidia jews quickly jumped on it because retards like OP will buy it on mass. They cheaped out on designing HBM2 to give you this shitty card.
Just watch as soon as they release the 1080ti, they will unveil their HBM2 cards, you'll regret your purchase and everyone will laugh at you.
>>339451526
There is literally never a good time to buy a graphics card.
Is the meme of Nvidia's forced obsolescence true?
>>339451365
>SSD but no HDD
>>>BOUGHT Windows 10
>Spending over $50 on a keyboard/mouse
>Spending over $100 on headphones
i know you got money to spare motherfucker but calm down
>>339451526
cucks never learn
>Nvidia
>lasting 2 years
good one.
>>339451365
>that $300 SSD
LMAO
>>339451619
The HBM2 is cheaper and has higher memory 32GB in a single stack, its bang for buck unlike GDDR5/5X
>>339451673
I'm going all SSD. I'm gonna buy another one later in the year. I already broke my $5k budget by $1k and I refuse to go a penny over $6k so I gotta wait it out.
>have a 560 Ti
>finally a 1080p killer card releases for sub 400 dollars
I don't even know what to do, get this or a PS4 Neo? I haven't played a PC game since Divinity OS in 2014
>>339451794
>going full SSD
You never go full SSD, bro.
>>339446705
Until the 4k meme this year with UHD displays dropping like crazy.
And your 1080 can barely keep 30 fps in games.
And you see the shiny new 1180 next year and want that.
Is it possible that I could maybe get like $150 for my 380x if I sold it right now? I wonder if anyone would even buy it at this point with Polaris coming.
I wonder if my 4690k won't bottleneck a 1070. Well, before I buy that I'll wait to see how Polaris competes price to performance wise.
>>339451920
Not with all the pricefixing scandals, you don't.
>1TB still the same price as a year ago
Fuck you, Samsung
>>339451920
I'm already on full SSD son.
>>339446705
>1070
>not getting 1080 for slightly more
>either one lasting less then 5 years
You're retarded OP, all of the last 3 generations of cards will last an easy 5 years in themselves if you buy them today.
There's not a lot of PC games that can or will take advantage of anything higher then a 4gb card. Developers develop for the majority not the minority, so most still develop within the 780 and i3 range.
I have a 660ti should I buy a 1070 or wait for the next gen?
>>339451842
Do you have a PS4? Get card.
Do you have no PS4 and not many PS4 backlog games? Buy card.
Do you have no PS4, and play mostly console games, and have a list of at least 10 games you want play on your PS4 neo? Get the PS4, you dirty casual.
>>339446705
Is this a good entry level gaming PC?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01717U74S/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?qid=1464671528&sr=8-2&pi=SY200_QL40&keywords=syber+vapor&dpPl=1&dpID=41P23pSxA2L&ref=plSrch
Don't give me the "muh prebuilt" meme.
>>339450782
$380 for 1080P is a lot of money for so little real-estate.
If you want super high frame rates its probably the best choice. If you want multiple 1080P monitors at 60fps AMD offers better options for the price.
The 1070 will run handle about as much information as a GTX980 but run at a good 25%-50% faster stock vs stock. The R9 390X won't reach the the speeds but can handle far more load at once without as large performance penalties.
If you want to run higher resolutions or multiple monitors at higher settings the R9 390X or even the R9 Nano is a better GPU
AMD is better for complexity. Nvidia is better for speed. It all depends on the types of games and the display setup you want to push
>>339446978
A 970 already outclasses this generation.
Everything beyond that is gravy.
>>339451365
Are you seriously retarded enough to buy a $600 motherboard, $140 mouse, $140 keyboard, you fucking bought Windows 10, and why the fuck do you need 32gbs of RAM? It just sounds like you're wasting money to waste money. Could've bought one of those realistic sex dolls with that price.
>d-d-don't buy the nvidia gpu g-g-guys
>buy amd guys
>amd is better guys
>please buy amd so we wont go bankrupt guys
>please buy amd guys we sure are better
suicidal care for years
Until AMD presents anything that outperforms the 1080 the company is dead for me
non existent irrelevant pile of shit aka AMD
They are late on everything
GPU, CPU, Motherboards any fucking thing you can imagine AMD is failing hard at
1080 presented in may 1080 ti, new Titan around october will humilate AMD existence on this planet
Never buy AMD gpu, they use more wattage, are literal heaters, loud fans and insane coil whine noise during load its unbareable
mfw upgrading from a gtx 590 to a 1080.
was the 500s the last time nvidia didnt gimp their cards? i'm scared of this new uncharted territory, i've been running three monitors for years now.
enjoy your rebrands with slight clock
>>339452251
>Are you seriously retarded enough to buy a $600 motherboard, $140 mouse, $140 keyboard, you fucking bought Windows 10, and why the fuck do you need 32gbs of RAM? It just sounds like you're wasting money to waste money. Could've bought one of those realistic sex dolls with that price.
Yeah. Hosting a server requires a lot of power.
>>339452165
>pre-built
>>339452105
I have a 660ti, too. I'm getting a 1080 so I can enjoy 1440p/144hz at 60+ fps. Upgrading only once every five years is nice, it really let's you experience a good jump in quality. Before the 660ti I had a 9800GTX+, great card.
>>339452165
>pre-built
The answer to any prebuilt being "a good computer" is no.
>>339452289
Coil whine is an issue with all cards, don't matter the company. It matters more of the batches. If you get a bad batch you might experience coil whine, but overall coil whine is next to nonexistent if you actually bought a card that isn't refurbished. Even then you could get very very unlucky. But coil whine is something that can and will apply to any card.
If you ever experience coil whine to begin with no matter the manufacturer, you should send it back in. So it's mildly autistic to say one company can cause coil whine which has never been the case.
>>339452351
>rebrand
It's a brand new GPU you memer
>>339452131
I have a PS4, which I got for free, have several games, am missing 6 games I'm interested in, 2 of which are available on PC, but the future lineup is at least half-a-dozen plus games strong for me, whereas PC has nothing on the horizon besides Mount & Blade II and I guess the new Deus Ex.
>>339452289
I desperately wish AMD would reveal something truly revolutionary and groundbreaking. Like, could you imagine the pants shitting that would happen at nvidia if AMD announced they'd created the first graphene chip?
>>339452431
You don't get a 144hz monitor for 60fps. You get it for 120+. You only make sure you can maintain 120+ in that case otherwise the monitor is a complete waste of money. On the secondary note to that, 144hz isn't supported on 99% of games and is only supported practically through VR which is garbage until 160+ fps becomes a hardware standard. Which the majority of the world that plays video games and uses the internet is nowhere near.
>>339452289
the only reason AMD makes money is because they sell to the console manufacturers
>>339451365
>wireless mouse
>$140
>>339452901
You can use it wired but it doesn't matter since the wireless tech it uses is insane. It has less than 1ms response time wireless.
>>339452867
AMD has been the trend setters for the past 20 years. Nvidia just takes their shit and fixes it up then puts their name on it. It's been like this for 20 years now and will continue to probably be so. Though the upside is that AMD is no longer meshing teams that don't belong together they actually are specializing now. AMD's biggest breakthrough now is trying to make APUs come back as a standard. But it's doubtful it will work well for another 10-15 years. Given Intel is running into the electron problem now with their latest processors. So trying to move up the next step or rather go back in time and try to improve upon tech is tougher then initially expected.
Most people will never actually understand where innovation actually comes from or how it affects the later outcomes. APUs are a good step in the right direction from a past idea of using them.
guys is this is a good gaming laptop? i'm saving for this baby and i'm planning on buying this in 3 months
http://www.amazon.com/Satellite-S70-BBT2N23-17-3-Inch-Business-i7-4710HQ/dp/B00MVUS9GO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1464672474&sr=8-1&keywords=toshiba+satellite+s70
thanks
>>339451526
Yeah man, HBM2 is going to be a game changer, totally. Just like the Fury X totally destroyed the 980ti, right?
>>339452576
It's fully upgradeable. Plus it fits in your entertainment section.
Should I buy another 970 for sli or just wait a bit longer?
>>339451365
if your going to drop $300~ dollars on an ssd you may want to get the pro edition instead of the evo, it comes with a 10 year warranty.
>>339448908
E3 is in what, 13 days? there's definitely gong to be ps4 neo news revealed then, teasers at the very least. fucking hell i have to pack my ps4 and sell it but i'm so lazy.
>>339448778
My 970 can't touch 144fps so I bought this expensive ass monitor for nothing. I cap everything at 60fps so I don't feel like I've wasted money.
>>339449931
>Believing the 4k meme
You realise they force it on the users that we need to buy better hardware right?
If 4k goes mainstream there will be 6k 8k KKK it's an endless loop
>>339453369
the 970 despite it being a faulty card by definition will still last an easy 5 years more in video games. No one understands that. If you were to SLI another one it would be a bit more comfortable towards the end of the life
>>339452165
Not even gonna talk about the shit specs, but holy that awful case. Enjoy your overheating mess.
>>339453290
No, man, THIS is the year! We're finally future-proof! Not even Ubisoft can over-bloat our games now!
>>339453440
How do I get into FFXIV?
I'm lvl 34 NIN atm and I outleveled the story quests and I have no desire to do anything else in the game.
Fix me
>>339453310
No. Bad.
>>339447136
I made the mistake of getting a memecard
Its good but a 1070 is far better and will last me far longer on my 1080p monitor, 970 is already struggling
will a i5 2500k bottleneck a GTX 1070?
>>339448289
it's an nvidia card without proper asynchronous shading support, 2 years is generous
>>339453440
since when can you change the appearance of your panties? I want to resub now.
>>339453265
guys a bump/ just want to know if i should invest in this? thanks
>>339453542
Samsung this winter wants to show off an 8k phone display. However there is no way in hell of it actually being affordable they just wanna show people it's possible and to try to push the industry forward some.
Not everyone can or will upgrade their gpu,cpu and motherboard every year or two. It's actually not a reasonable practice at all. Nor does it actually show the buying practices of the regular everyday person. Despite this /v/ is autistic and thinks that everyone can dump three grand into their PC every year. Even though most if not all developers still develop on an i3 level to reach the majority not the minority. Why spend money to cater to less then a fraction of a percent of actual consumers when they can develop for the hardware majority and clear 99.999999999% more.
>>339452251
Not only that but he bought 32GB of RAM in the most retarded way possible. Instead of buying 2x16GB sticks so that there's spare RAM slots for upgrading in the future this retard is buying 8x4GB sticks. 11/10 bait.
>>339453946
>8 4x sticks
Dear lord
>>339451526
GDDR5X is fine, Nvidia's real problem is that their GPUs aren't going to be good for DirectX 12
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyeSWceptY8
>>339453580
Play with irl/constant internet friends, it's really the comradery while doing the grind that helps.
>>339453723
There was a recent summer event and you could get multiple swimsuits and outfits, i glamoured the pants to match with the rest to give panty appearance. Strangely enough I no longer play, EvE is the one true MMO
>>339448289
nope. 560 Ti here. Going strong at 1080p.
No clue what those faggots are talking about tbqh.
>>339453946
you do realize quad channel memory exists for enthusiast boards right? if you have no need to upgrade in the future it's best to use your memory in a quad channel configuration to get the most out of it.
An i7 4770k wouldnt bottleneck a 1080 or 1070 right?
>>339453563
Actually the only overheating issues are with higher builds but replacing the stock fan or getting a laptop cooler helps. Also standing it upright helps the most.
I know your a PC elitist but wanna know why PC gaming is far behind console gaming? It's because instead of helping people buy a good entry PC that is fully upgradeable you tell them to build it themselves. Look it's not that were lazy or afraid to break something. It's that we just want a PC ready to go out the box. There's prebuilts that aren't severely overpriced and maybe you should listen and understand people have different needs. Yes I will upgrade this on my own but hey this case and build is a good starter.
>>339454083
DX12 is shit anyways.
>>339453603
Elaborate
>>339453630
What games and what framerates are you shooting for? I'm on a 980 vanilla (technically SC, but whatever) and I'm blowing Doom out at 1080p/144HZ with no slowdown. Haven't ran into a game (outside of some unoptimized pieces of shit like Dovetail's Flight School and Train Simulator) that has ever broken this card.
970 can't be that much behind a 980, right?
>>339454329
Even an i5 3570 wouldn't.
>>339454083
DX 12 is a windows 10 exclusive meme. Cherry picking AMD shills are delusional as fuck.
Nvidia literally wins at everything.
>>339454468
Thanks bro
>>339454102
>Play with irl/constant internet friends
WHERE FIND
>>339454329
It won't be the bottleneck point no.
The only actual upgrade from where you're at though would be moving to the xeon based shit. Which there's only like 2-3 motherboards that actually cover that in the $700-900 range.
They wouldn't make a card that would out the 2011x boards it wouldn't make sense given the majority uses much less. They are banking off people making the choice to the 1080 rather then the 970 or 980 at this point. So they better develop for the board they intend people to use with it. Which would be in the i5 to i7 range.
>>339454465
Sorry no, DOOM runs phenomenally well, constant 60 at 1080p, but there are some gsmes I play where I cant maintain a constant 60 + max settings, even though I should blow them out, also the 3.5 has been biting me in the ass in certain games as well. I was planning on getting a 1070 and giving this card to my bro who is building his own PC
>>339454429
Not building your own PC is dumb. You get the parts cheaper, and that's all you pay for. Putting it together is easier than LEGOs. The feeling of accomplishment from creating your own PC is also very enjoyable. You are missing out on the ecstasy of bringing your amalgamation to life, like Dr. Frankenstein.
>>339453542
Tech companies will always price gouge the enthusiast market. That is the market that evaluates their 'hobby' as worth it to spend excess amounts of cash for very little performance increase, and plus bleed edge tech does cost manufacturers more money because of increased manufacturing cost, resources, R&D. If that justifies the insane prices for the newest tech is debatable.
Myself, if I see tech that has a price/performance ratio that doesn't make me want to start learning how to make IED's and denounce western society, that is when I consider an upgrade and I think most people consider as well as it being a point in a timeline when tech is being pushed forward.
>>339454105
But not at 60 fps high settings though.
>>339454492
All games on the development hell list are being developed on DX12 with Async computing in mind. It's retarded not to develop for async at this point given it's the future of how coding will be handled through the gpu. That's why Nvidia is trying to hard to adapt to async computing. They can't survive in the world that is moving in the direction towards a single OS. Windows 10 is guaranteed to be a majority OS soon. It's right on track given most normies are already on win 10. So why develop for a minority at that point. It's retarded from a business and technology standpoint and for doubting it makes you retarded as fuck even though all the signs and current are pointing in that direction. You're just stubborn to not admit you're an idiot for not paying attention.
Can someone help me choose a cpu and motherboard that aren't too expensive but won't bottleneck a 1070?
>>339454329
>Planning to get a 1070
>only have an FX-6300 and can't upgrade because my motherboard has VRM cooling issues on any CPU higher then that
>don't wanna switch to Intel and have to go through all the trouble of backing up my data and reinstalling Windows
>>339454264
I do know about Quad Channel, but even so buying 4GB sticks in this age just seems plain dumb when you can get 8GB and 16GB sticks of DDR4.
I'm doing a new build when the 1080ti comes out, and just for dickwaving purposes I want 128GB of RAM in my PC. I'm fully aware that I'll never find a use for except maybe as a 96GB RamDisk, but I don't really care, I want to wave my e-peen at nerds on the internet.
>>339452165
>http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01717U74S/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?qid=1464671528&sr=8-2&pi=SY200_QL40&keywords=syber+vapor&dpPl=1&dpID=41P23pSxA2L&ref=plSrch
Well they really aren't specific enough with the hardware. Its cheaper than building the same PC through their website but it clearly way overpriced going through them.
Lets price it out
< $70 - Athlon X4 840
$100 - Motherboard
$110+ - GTX750Ti
$50+ - Case
$20-40$ - 4GB DDR3
$50 - HDD
$20-$50 ?- PSU
So somewhere around $470 (dank) for parts and $570 with the OS
No horrible at all but I feel you are taking a major risk without a manufacturer warranty. They always gimp on the PSU.
>>339454879
nobody cares about your async and dx 12
Vulkan will be the future anyways
>>339454959
Don't plan that far ahead unless you're willing to upgrade your motherboard. I'm using the same cpu with an r9 390. I won't be upgrading again here until I can afford a new motherboard, because that's the limitation at that point is the motherboard.
>>339454718
Cool. As long as you are happy upgrading twice in as many years, go for it. It will future proof you another year compared to your 970 and you'll have a happy ass friend.
Still curious...what games? You didn't answer that. We agreed Doom--the most recent AAA title with somewhat demanding requirements---plays fine, I'm stumped about what games are pushing your 970 too far.
>>339454392
>5% increase over previous generation
>Still getting way below 60fps 1080p in ANY title
>$699
Someone is having buyer's remorse as we speak.
Will a 2500k overclocked to 4.2 ghz bottleneck a 1070?
>>339455098
Async computing is the future, it's a much more efficient form handling. Only retardedly bad coders will avoid it, because they haven't learned enough to use it right. So it cuts out retard indies. Good nothing of value is lost.
>>339454726
>Legos
So basically the best advice you give to someone who wants to get into pcs is to build one? It would be like if someone was interested in flying and telling them to build a plane because it's cheaper.
>>339454936
i5 4690k, and you can probably find a decent mATX board for under 100.
>>339454959
>>don't wanna switch to Intel and have to go through all the trouble of backing up my data and reinstalling Windows
what how tech illiterate are you
What's a good upgrade for a person still owning a 5770 that he got five years ago?
>>339452289
Nice graph with stock GTX980Ti and GTX980, R9 Fury (non X), and stock GTX970
Way to be biased as fuck
>>339454959
Dude, you're going to get ridiculously bottlenecked hard with that. Why bother? You need to upgrade that.
>>339454936
Bruh anything i5/i7 from like 2012 onwards will be fine. It's a lot harder to bottleneck GPUs with CPUs these days.
>>339455036
So your saying I should go through there website instead of Amazon?
>>339455152
Oh sorry, Total War and Vermintide to name two, the 3.5 really comes into effect on the latter. And the former is stable, but has really bad drops like 60-30 mid battle. The 3.5 in general is just a huge hassle.
>>339446705
Depending on how much of a fag you are, it can last you even more.
Mine lasted pretty much the whole last generation, and there's still some games being released that run decently on it.
>>339455368
If I find a graph with OC performance only there would be no competition at all. What are you trying to say here kid.
>>339452165
Don't buy that. Seriously---way overpriced and not competitive with other prebuilt options on the web. You are paying extra for form factor.
My first gaming rig was a pre-built I bought after starting my career post university from ibuypower--they may still be in business. I paid 800-900 bucks for an 2011 AMD build (1110t six core, liquid cooling, HD 6970, no SSD, 800w Coolmaster PSU) after pricing out the indivudal parts on Amazon and only finding a 50 dollar difference.
I now only build my own PCs (now on an Intel/NVIDIA 3770k OC and 980ti setup), but it was not a bad entry into the intoxicating world of PC gaming.
tldr; don't buy that abomination, prebuilts are not a bad gateway but research your parts and be prepared to pay the 50-200 USD price hike.
>>339455425
>>339455036
No, you should stop being a poorfag and not buy it, period. That thing isn't even going to give you 1080p 30fps on most games.
I'm pretty certain you could build something better yourself for $600 if that's all you can put out.
>>339455308
You are a moron. That is an absolute shit metaphor.
Here, I'll make a better one for you.
A man asks me "hey I want to buy a Lego set. I can buy one prebuilt by a mouth breathing wageslave that probably fucked a bunch of shit up, he wants to charge me more than the cost of the Lego set, is this a good deal?", and I say to him no, building a Lego is very simply just follow the instructions, then he gets butthurt and starts saying his building a computer is impossible because he is retarded.
>>339455508
I can see Total War ripping through VRAM like a beast. I though Vermintide was just poorly optimized/made...I heard reports of that game being an unjust system hog. Never played it, mind you.
>>339455308
Except building a plane isn't a process equivalent to "the triangle block goes in the trianglular hole, the square block goes in the square hole, etc"
>>339454718
consoles can even 1080p60 doom
>>339452165
pre-builts are mostly shit in my experience, friend of mine bought this like a year ago and the RAM died a few weeks ago http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0080NQDLO/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1This also costed her like $800
>>339456064
With heavily alterated textures and shadows. Granted, no one ever benchmarks mid-range PCs so it's hard to tell if a 2012 i5 with a 770 can play Doom at 1080p/60 at medium or medium-low settings.
>>339456064
With drops*
>>339455981
Yeah it is, but alot of my favorite games are power hogs. I get good frames with some but terrible ones with others. Its a crapshoot
>>339446705
i'll give it 6 months at best.
>>339454959
>don't wanna switch to Intel and have to go through all the trouble of backing up my data and reinstalling Windows
Are you retarded?
Upgrading from a 6 year old 5770 to an r9 380x, only 3 more sleeps 'til it gets here
>>339455425
I was making a similar build for their website. Your price is better but I honestly don't like the specs.
You want 2133MHz DDR3 with the tightest timings, a cheaper but good FM2+ motherboard
You will also want a Athlon X4 "K" version with the unlocked multiplier to get higher clocks.
All of this is no more expensive than the prebuilt you are looking at and come with warranties for the individual parts so you don't have to send the whole thing back to the guys you bought it from so they can do the exact same thing you are doing now wasting more of your time
Still running a MSI GTX 760. Plays all the games that I want to play at reasonable frame rates. I've had it for like 3 years.
>>339456608
Been having fun playing Doom? And by Doom I mean the original since that's about all the card can handle.
>>339456509
>buying a 380x when the 480x is literally getting revealed tomorrow
>>339446705
>check sites selling them
>sold out instantly
>mfw all those people bought first party gpus
>>339456839
760 runs doom easy mode. Hows that dick in your mouth ?
>>339455615
That chart is clearly making a case for the GTX1080. You are comparing a 1000MHz GTX980Ti to a 1600MHz GTX1080
No one runs their GTX980Ti at stock. No one buys those unless you are hoping to get an excellent overclocker. Overclock that GTX980Ti by 50% and then see how the stack up. The would GTX980Ti outperform the GTX1080
Also why isn't the Fury X there? Why the fuck would you compare the Fury to the GTX1080 when the Fury X is its main competition
That chart is clearly trying to make the GTX1080 results bigger by selecting weak competition
>>339454105
nobody care about 420p@low details
>not getting the Radeon 480 which will cost $200 and run Doom @ 1440p/100+FPS
>>339456845
Nah man its still a good buy. The R9 380X is completely a enabled $210 GPU. That means its perfect and has no faults. The R9 480X will really have to deliver on price to performance to beat it horribly
>nvidia
I'm tired of sitting in this shitty walmart chair that I bought for 40 dollars almost 10 years ago. Someone tell me a good chair to buy, please.
>>339457415
This is a good question. I am in need of a good chair too. My current desk is too high for my chair, and I can't easily fix it
>>339457415
>not owning a giger chair
>>339457196
>fury x is immense increase vs sapphire fury tri-x
If you want OC results search them yourself. But don't come crying again and talk about how unfair things are.
>>339457415
Picked this up off the Amazon a few months ago. Solid chair. Decent price. Nice lumbar support. Only downsides are you need to attach the arm rests as they are structural crucial to keeping the chair together (which I could careless about and like the rests) and it doesn't look like a neon Formula One seat like all the cool Twitch people have.
>>339457196
My grammar is fucked up in that post lol
The GTX980Ti overclocks really well as does the GTX980. The GTX1080 however is really close to the limits of a single 8 pin.
The point I'm making is that chart is creating an optimal comparison for the GTX1080. Factory overclocked GTX980s and GTX980Tis will score a lot higher than the scores in that graph
>>339457415
>go to staples
>sit in all the chairs
>pick the comfiest one
Asking people on the internet is dumb. Everyone likes a different level of padding/lumbar support/tilt/etc.
>>339457737
http://www.amazon.com/Serta-43673-Leather-Executive-Chair/dp/B00AVUQPTO?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s00
>>339457327
in your wet fucking dreams
>>339457887
Alright, $300 but they've already confirmed they're undercutting the 1070 and they're demoing Doom on a 1440p/144hz monitor
>>339457327
>this time AMD will definitely blow nvidia away, just watch guys, just wait and see!
>>339457810
>/v/
>ever going outside
>much less to a store where dozens of people will be around
>>339457654
Why compare the GTX1080 to the partially disabled Fury and not the fully enabled Fury X?
Who /1050/ here?
>>339457637
Just dove around Google to see if I could nab one---turns out they are approximately 30k-50k a piece direct from Giger's studio.
If I have to choose between a bitchin' Giger chair and a Porsche Cayman and a 40 dollar wal-mart faux leather chair---rev those engines bay-bee.
>>339456509
>>339457358
I don't think it was a good idea. I own a 380x, I bought it in January. It runs most new games on ultra at 30-50fps at 1080p, and 60fps if you lower the settings a bit. But the 480 will undoubtedly be much better and would be the same price probably. You really should've just waited.
I'm actually thinking about selling it and getting a 1070 or Polaris. If that card can't max any new games out at 60fps now, it's going to look real bad a year from now. With a 1070 or presumably Polaris, I can max just about everything out and not have to worry about the frame rate.
>>339458139
> partially disabled Fury
what the fuck are you talking about 1050mhz, 4GB. Its the same shit.
>>339458253
Yep, one of my friends in Silicon Valley has one in addition to a literal "iron throne" made of fibreglass swords that cost him like $30,000 off the HBO website
>>339456509
You're going to be a happy boy.
Until you realise you don't even play games any more ;^)
>>339458169
I thought the 1060 Ti is the last one or no?
>>339458410
Ridiculous but it's for a market that is so filthy rich that 30 grand for mere nerd cred bragging rights is not an obstacle.
But in the immortal words of Mr. Biggie Smalls---Mo Money, Mo Problems.
>>339458410
What a fucking waste of money
How are these people not broke?
>>339454083
This shit is a waste of money. It will be useless with dx12 and vulkan.
>>339456509
Props to you for holding onto a GPU that long but it begs the question---do you even still play vidya that will use newer generation hardware? I was on a 6970 back in 2012 and couldn't get stable framerates on most modern AAA titles so I can only imagine a 5770 was lagging hard then.
>>339458410
Your friend is a faggot.
Fucking noveau riche, I swear.
>>339455236
depends on your resolution, at 1080p it would shit all over your cpu though.
>>339448289
nvidia has convinced people that if they can't get 100 fps in 1440p on maxed settings in poorly optimized games they need to upgrade
>>339455236
probably not, but a 1070 is pretty OP for a single screen, unless its 1440p
My issue with the GTX1080 is that its a lot like a massively overclocked R9 390.
Speed is great if you care about very high frame rates. Throw more geometry, texture complexity, and pixels at it, and its weaknesses will show. Meanwhile a Fury X can handle stupid texture complexity and terrain complexity.
The Fury X has a massive amount of potential untapped. I feel the R9 390 is going to be pushed beyond its limitations soon. When that happens you will start to see the GTX1080 taking massive frame rate hits and the performance difference will close.
The Fury X and Nano will be outstanding 1080P cards when game complexity blows up beyond our current limitations.
>>339446705
>2 years
I still have a gtx 460, kek.
>>339448908
yeah, you just gotta pay a monthly free, $60 per game, and you don't even get half of the good shit. I pity you console fags.
>>339458940
>settling for less than 100 fps in 1440p on maxed settings
idgaf about optimization i just want to play games at their best
>>339448908
lol they didn't even last 3 years before we heard about their replacements
>>339459132
>Fury X
>1080p card
almost had me
>>339459224
you can already max everything worth playing in 1080p with several year old hardware
if you buy dumb AAA GRAFIX ""games"" you're a retard and should just buy a TV and watch movies instead
>>339459403
>1080p
what is this 2001?
>>339458807
Upgrading for Witcher 3 and Overwatch. None of that other junk really appeals to me. The 5770 runs Overwatch on low/30fps so I figure it's about time to take her behind the shed
>>339459470
nice meme
there is almost no visible difference between 1080p, 1440p and 4K compared to performance it requires to render, it's literally not worth it
non shit apus when, the gpu meme needs to finally die.
>>339459786
*on normal sized monitor of course
>>339459786
>there is almost no visible difference between 1080p, 1440p and 4K
This is what console fags actually believe
Honest question.
I'm planning to buy gayming pc.
Should I get i7-6700k or i7-4790k??
Will get 980GTX cheaply from friend who pre-ordered 1080GTX.
Thinking about 16GB RAM.
Interested in 1080p gaming.
Is the GTX 1070 the GT 8800 all over again?
>>339459935
I don't own a console anon. I'm not saying you literally can't see the difference, but it's so miniscule on normal sized monitor that it's not worth to get the latest and greatest card just for that. Of course if you have the money and are willing to spend them thats great, but saying shit like
>1080p
what is this 2001?
is outright retarded
>>339460138
As long as it's not the FX 5800.
>>339460034
>i7
don't anon
>>339459797
When apple switch to AMD.
It is the biggest pusher of fast APUs on the market.
>>339458372
1.5TLOPS of difference Sherlock.
512 Shaders
32 TMUs
8 CUs
I still think we aren't even close to seeing what the Fury X is really capable of.
Look at the HD7970 vs GTX680. The GTX680 was faster than everything because of its higher memory frequencies and core/shader clocks
As the game complexity increased in texture detail and geometry complexity the gap between what both were capable of became fucking massive
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1722?vs=1719
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1495?vs=1494
It all depends on what the game wants to render.
AMD loves standard geometry detail and textures. Nvidia loves rendering animations and effects as fast as possible
When the geometry and texture detail choke the GPU your frame rate drops off a cliff
>>339460190
It cucks the GTX 1080, just like the GT 8800 cuck'd the GTX 8800.
>>339459786
The absolutely retarded, there's a very clear difference between those resolutions no matter what monitor size. But that's not say 1080p is bad at all, I only play at that resolution and it looks fine. But I'm also a poorfag.
>>339460190
Are you saying something about the FX5800? i can't hear over the noise!
>>339460034
Get a Skylake i5 6600K, you will have an upgrade path, while with the Haswell (4xxx) you won't. If you can get the 980 for $300, you can do that,but you will most probably be able to get a 480x for $250 which will be around the same performance.
>>339446705
I have a 970, gonna stick with it till 1170 comes out. I don't need to play everything on ultra, high/med is okay for me.
I don't actually struggle with much games either, maybe The Division, but even then the most I have seen it drop is in the low 40s. Other than that it's always been 50-60 which is okay for me.
>>339460217
Yep. Overclock a Skylake i3 (Asrock motherboards still do it). Very few games will run a good amount better on an i5 and almost no games see big gains from an i7
An overclocked Skylake i3 with a good set of memory is about as good as you can get in most games
>>339460330
WHAT? Sorry! I can't hear you! I've been almost completely deaf ever since I visited a friend who had a FX 5800 in his computer!
>>339460560
>>339460330
mfw windforce
>>339452165
Christ, if you're gonna be that big of a fag, get the Alien Alpha. Oy.
>>339460471
ok, 6600k is about 100 EUR cheaper here, makes some sense, will have to check out reviews. thanks.
I'm planning to get 980gtx for about 300 EUR. New it goes for 600 - 800 EUR in my third tier country.
>>339460863
Yeah, that's a better choice then. I might upgrade to a 480 from my 280x. Don't have any friends who would be selling a GPU like that, and the used market sucks in this shithole as well.
>>339460560
A friend?! what?
>>339459170
That can run mmos, sure.
>>339460034
4790k
Enjoy not upgrading for a decade
>>339446705
>>339460253
>When apple switch to AMD
probably not going to happen, but they are already set to use them for GPUs
http://appleinsider.com/articles/16/04/19/apple-to-adopt-amds-new-polaris-graphics-chips-in-upcoming-macs---report
>>339460538
although this is the best possible thing to do until kabylake, no ones going to listen.
>>339459395
Sadly I think the 4GBs of HBM will be its Achilles heel in high resolutions if you want to avoid stutter. 3440x1440 might be its limit in a few years.
The Fury X can handle a tremendous amount of geometry and texture information. Limiting your texture resolution through optimal texture compression for the intended resolution would allow you to make better use of your memory.
A 5760x1080 60fps triple monitor or projector setup would be the optimal load for the Fury X. Any sharper and you might require too much time to refresh your 4GBs of HBM and your frame rate would fluctuate
>>339461423
Must see how well the Zen CPUs will perform in terms of heat/price/performance ratio, also if AMD will carry out the whole "licensing the CPU to other companies to manufacture ARM style" as they seem to be pointing out.
If they pull that off, its likely apple switch, just to have their "Apple Ax86-1 system chip" .
>>339452398
Mouse, keyboard and overpriced MB don't help you host a server.
>>339461494
Intel know the i3 is the best CPU going by performance/dollar in gaming.
They've been trying to get software developers to make better use of multi-threading but all the code done in the 90s and 2000s was optimal for single cores.
I guess AMD requiring good multi threading support to even be competitive is making them lazy
>>339447392
>life is rough & full of work
>that feeling when finally have a job to pay for your hobby, build cutting edge top of the line PC, 4k monitor, and then finding yourself barely clocking 20 hours of playtime in 2 weeks.
>>339448908
If that were the case, PS4k wouldn't be a fucking thing. I'm not mad that it's getting an upgrade, fuck knows consoles need them. I'm mad that I finally get a PS4 and this shit is announced 2 months later.
I don't even wanna upgrade, all I ever played on my PS4 in the end was Uncharted and Destiny.
>>339462041
I'm glad that there will be a better version of the PS4 to get when I haven't even bought one yet. By the time I buy one I'll get the new one or its successor which should be mad cheap
Its good for the longevity of the product. When its an oldschool console the games won't look as bad as they do now on last gen consoles
It was the polar opposite last gen. The launch 60GB PS3 was the best version and each version after became shittier and shittier.
>>339451365
How fucking rich are you?
>>339446705
The way development is done these days, a decent GPU should last about as long as each console generation.
Which means more like 7 years.
>Been using a 660 for a few years now
Unless you're playing shitty unoptimized first person shooters (which is essentially every "high-end" PC game these days), I don't see why anyone would ever need anything more.
>>339461895
I know that feel, anon.
1080i 144hz master race doesn't give a shit about VRAM, resolution or price/performance.
all we care about is raw power.
these new GPUs don't change anything.
>>339462804
1080p*
>>339462625
No kidding. I've been saying the old GPU you need is a HD7870 for a long time now.
The R9 270X 4GB has held its value quite well for how old it is. Two in crossfire compete with a R9 290 4GB and don't overheat. You will put more load on the CPU though
>>339462804
144Hz is dependent on pure speed not power. The Fury X utterly destroys the GTX980Ti in raw power but the GTX980Ti delivers higher frames when overclocked because of its core clocks, memory frequencies, and ROPs.
Nvidia is speed
Raw performance is AMD
This is why AMD GPUs tend to be able to play games at higher settings later in their lives
The GTX680 and GTX770 is rarely even benchmarked any more. Anandtech shows some pretty interesting results in new titles
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1719?vs=1722
DX12 actually does make a difference for AMD
>>339459170
I had a 480 till dark souls 3 came out
>>339459886
>Using a 60" monitor
No wonder you get jewed by Nvidia.
>>339460291
Yeah, you must have bought into the electronic stores
>Show only 480p content on 1080p TVs
>Show actual HD on all the 4K tvs.
How long does it usually take for their cards to drop a notch in price again?
My 670 has served me well for the past 3-4 years. Nothing else calls for urgent upgrades so a straight replacement with a 1070 is all I'd need to last me another 3-4 years. 1080@60 fps is totally fine.
>>339465004
Cards haven't dropped in price in nearly 5 years, they just get discontinued.
>>339464471
This. The difference is almost invisible on normal sized monitor under 27" Why the fuck would you even use a bigger monitor for gaming? You can't possibly keep track of the whole screen.
![4B5667010815FE390AC2226EB1A8A96CEB7A224B_large[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/BQI6rPt.jpg "4B5667010815FE390AC2226EB1A8A96CEB7A224B_large[1].jpg")
>>339451365
>>339451794
my question is why are monitors so much more expensive than tvs?
>>339448289
>only 2
>Is that the life expectancy of GPUs nowadays?
Could be worse. They could be advancing like they did late-90s/early-2000s where they'd double in power in less than a year and render previous cards utterly obsolete.
>>339465712
Higher pixel density and lower latency.
>>339465745
My 3Dfx voodoo 1 card lasted quite a lot back then.
From TR1 to around unreal tournament.
>>339465712
WAY HIGHER PIXEL DENSITY
Also the image tends be made to refresh much cleaner than TVs.
I don't know if I just didn't have my settings optimal for my 32in 1080P TV but I always notice some odd effects on certain textures when in motion
I love 32in monitors. A 40in 4k has the same density as a 20in 1080P display. That really sharp for so much real estate.
My 32in helps me so much while sniping in Red Orchestra 2
