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Is this what it feels like to play MOBA's?
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>Dumbfuck teammates
>Never type
>Never play tank or support
>Double pick classes which are already taken
>Never change class to counterpick
>Play widowmaker despite being unable to aim
>Never go for the objective
>Always lose

Tell me about your most infuriating teammates, /v/
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Have you never played Team Fortress?

Just consider yourself lucky there's no Spy class in this game
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I knew this game would be dogshit so I just played a few hours of TF2 to get it out of my system and save myself the money and frustration.

At least with TF2 you have 12 people on a team, where 4-6 can be shit and the rest of you can carry, but with Overwatch being 6v6 you basically have to suffer since just a few shit teammates will ruin the game.

Feel bad for people that wasted money on this desu
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This is not a MOBA.
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>Pick Reinhardt on attack
>Teammate instantly locks in Widowmaker
>Everyone else picks offensive heroes
>We finally pressure another guy to change to support
>Of course he picks the most offense support, Zenyatta
>Literally about a minute into the game Widowmaker makes a comment about our team being retarded
>Remind him that he's shit, Hes playing widow on offense and that I'm playing tank and have more eliminations than him
>He and Zenyatta turn out to be friends
>Zenyatta tells me that hes reported me and then refuses to heal me for the rest of the match
>We lose
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>>339388196
Team Fortress was more bearable because you had lots of teammates and it never felt like there was any pressure to win

>>339388380
I know it's not a MOBA, but I've never played another game where I have to rely on my teammates so heavily.
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>>339388441
Welcome to team based game pubs

Are you actually surprised?
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>>339388441
I hate fucking Widowmakers.
If someone want a sniper in attack, pick Hanzo.
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>>339388649
>Team Fortress was more bearable because you had lots of teammates

I haven't played anything but pugs : the post
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>Play with 3 friends together
>We actually communicate
>We actually co-ordinate our efforts
>Dominate 90% of our games
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>>339388367
>I'm poor as fuck
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>>339388819
Yeah no shit, good detective work Sherlock
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Why do people who own the noir skin insist on using Widowmaker every game?
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>>339387969
win or lose, 90% of my games are fine. competent people doing fairly competent things on both teams.
maybe you're the shitter, stuck in a trench of shitters. have fun, i guess. :^)
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>>339389079
>I have no impulse control
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>>339389151
>A competitive game I didn't play competitively is better because I played on PUGs
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>>339388649
You should try Heroes of the Storm. It's much worst than Overwatch for that. Teamwork is really important. If you see there is no healer, then go heal, dont expect people to do it.
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>>339388367
Nothing wrong with having smaller team amounts in a class based shooter. If you're having problems with pub games, DON'T PLAY FUCKING PUB GAMES, IT'S THAT SIMPLE. Play in a team where you can communicate and coordinate where you'll then be matched against other teams of similar skill.

I rarely play solo pubs because there are always shitters who lock in muh favourite every game, every map, every mode, regardless of whether it works in the team selection or whether someone else actually wants to play it.
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>Pick Roadhog on Ilios Well Map
>No on picks support
>At least we got Hanzo and Widowmaker amirite
>They don't kill anyone while I fuck the team up
>Eventually die because I'm the only one contesting
>Lose first round
>Same deal next round
>Play as Zarya
>Fuck the entire team up
>Winning second round singlehandedly with four gold medals
>Third round, same deal
>Get my shit wrecked by Reinhardt, Bastion and Junkrat
>Still no support
>Still Hanzo and TWO Widowmakers by now
>We lose since I'm unable to contest
>Everyone in my team says the team is retarded and is too dumb to hold the point for two seconds
>mfw I'm the only one to carry the entire team
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>>339389330
What?
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>win close match
>only 6 people vote at the end of the game
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>>339389348
>Don't play pubs
>In a game with no community servers
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>>339389416
Are you mentally retarded?

>TF2 IS BETTER BECAUSE I DON'T FEEL OBLIGATED TO WIN
>COMPETITIVE PLAY WHAT IS THAT?
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>>339389330
>Team Fortress
>Competitive

Yeah having to ban 90% of the guns and restricting the teams so they can only play one stale metagame makes for a real competitive game
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>>339388819
>playing "competitive" TF2
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>>339387969
if you're actually any good, just wait for ranked mode because that will quickly put you with equally skilled players. if you're just a delusional shitter complaining about teammates while you suck yourself, well to bad, you're going to have to enjoy this lame ride for a while.
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>>339389525
He means play with friends you autist
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>play offense on temple of anubis
>go McCree, get 3 of the gold medals the entire time
>a mei of all people on offense starts giving me shit when their class pick is retarded and they did absolutely nothing all game
>they get the ball rolling at pointing the finger at me when I was the only one killing the widowmaker on the enemy team and actually doing other things too
>"lel you cant long range kill with McCree you're an idiot"

These people need to be nuked. I don't know who's to blame more, Meifags proving they're the worst kinds of people or other McCrees giving the expectation that left click doesn't exist
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>>339389551
TF2 isn't a competitive game if those are the words you're trying to string together.

Yes people play competitively in their 6v6 autism fueld hyper meta that bans basically everything, but that doesn't make it built for competitions, retard.
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>>339389706
>Friends don't play the game
>Can't make more friends that play because there's no community servers
>Have to send friend invites to every moron I play with in hopes that I'll make a friend to play with

Great game design it's like I'm playing a console FPS from 1999
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>>339389706
Not even him but-

>The game requires you to play with friends to be good.

Autist or not, if a game does this, it's a pretty shit game.
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>>339389765
It's a game, a pvp game even more. If people can do competitions of farts and burps and cake eating, then TF2 is more than competitive.
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>>339389765
>>339389613
>Takes more skill and teamwork than any other shooter released in the last decade
>IT'S NOT COMPETITIVE YOU FUCKER YOU AUTISTIC FUCK STOP PLAYING GAMES I CAN'T PLAY
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>>339389586
You have to be 18 to post buddy.

When tf2 came out it was pretty serious.
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>>339389729
>Hitscan hero
>Can't kill people at long range

It was probably a Mei main that hasn't played 70% of the heros.
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>>339389921
It's a team game. Every team game is better if you know your teammates. It's just like any sport or game.
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>>339389765
Were you even old enough to play it when TF2 was released?
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>>339390040
So how does this relate to what you said originally at all
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>>339387969
>Is this what it feels like to play MOBA's
yes
thought you could argue it's the same for every objective-based multiplayer game
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I'm telling you fucks lame Genji is the meta.

Then when he has ultimate you go in with Mercy on your back.
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>>339387969
whatever is the purpose of weekly brawl? its atrocious!
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>>339389613
>>339389765
>TF2 isn't competitive enough to be like my Counter Strike : RNG Operations!1!!!1!
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>>339390123
But in TF2, you can play in a pub and have at least a descent amount of fun.

In Overwatch, one or two people can fuck over everybody.

If you have to rely on having friends to have at least a fun game, then you don't have a good game UNLESS you have friends to play it with. Three of your five other friends busy? Tough luck pal.
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>>339388819
>>339389151
Never heard the term "Pug", before, what does it mean?
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>>339390162
This.

People forget how serious tf2 was when it first cane out. No hats, No drops, No weapons other than the default. People actually played the game seriously. It was really fun and competitive.

No it just an autiam drop farming chamber. Hopefully when competitive mode comes out it will be like it used to be.
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>>339389921
>The game requires you to play with friends to be good.
No, any team based game requires a competent team to have a good chance of winning. You can have bad teams of players, seeing as I've played against plenty in OW.

This isn't difficult to figure out.
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>>339390063
>"Yeah well it was really competitive 9 years ago!"

Lmao dude
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>>339390495
pick up group

its an old MMO term, just a random group of people basically, not a premade or necessarily coordinated.
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>>339390607
>its an old MMO term
>WoW was my first online game
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>>339390486
I played Overwatch Solo and had fun. TF2 is more of a shitfest, but if people dont unite and play together then it's just a shitshow. If nobody go heavy and Medic then the team lose 99% of the time on Payloads.
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>>339387969
Nah, this is worse.

No double picking in MOBAs and the ults in MOBAs aren't nearly as I-win as they are here.

MOBAs also require strategy, on occasion.
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>>339390486
>If you have to rely on having friends to have at least a fun game, then you don't have a good game UNLESS you have friends to play it with. Three of your five other friends busy? Tough luck pal.

Then take the initiative to play with people outside your friendship circle, or roll the dice and play solo and hope you get a good team.

All these TF2 shitters assuming you need friends to play with or else the game sucks are fucking colossal morons.
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>>339390498
Just because it looked more serious doesn't mean people magically played it more serious, especially after the 4chan/FA related servers and mods got going.
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>>339390530
it still is. isn't TF2 still in like the top 5 games with the most users?
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>>339390979
free =/= good
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>>339387969
>Worst team member
The one telling me what the fuck to do instead of doing it themselves.

Fuck you, if you what the team to have a rein then you switch to him and I'll play whatever hero you were.
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>>339390413
for people who wanna mess around and spam ults
does this bamboozle you
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>>339390716
>Shitters can't solo a payload as solider or demo

Good luck getting your fat ass and butt buddy anywhere close to your shit, fags.
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>>339390979
More users doesn't make it more competitive. Like a 3rd of them are idling or trading and the rest are playing on public servers.
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>>339390790
not that retard but it definitely was a bit more serious since a good number of old tf players moved into the game, the skill level was also very high for a bit, now its just a joke.
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>>339390758
>Then take the initiative to play with people outside your friendship circle
Whoa yeah let me get some new friends on the community servers to play with later OH WAIT THERE AREN'T ANY

Maybe I should go play with the /vg/ trannies or Reddit faggots instead because the game makes it impossible to build a lasting community, so bazinga pay up $40 and stop bitching because it's your fault that PC FPS staples aren't in babby's first shootan.
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>>339390674

MMO =/= wow you faggot


I've never heard anyone say pug in another genre, if you want to name another game the term is used in then go for it, if not fuck off loser :^)
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>>339390504
Except as long as you aren't absolutely shit, you can carry your team in a pub in TF2. Why? Because there are 12 players, meaning the margin of error is lower.

Over watch has six players on a team. The margin of error, aka someone being shit, is much more damaging to the entire team.
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>>339387969
if you can't get gud without communications than you're not my nigga
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>>339390000
Nice quads, anon.
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I'm beginning to think that if my team has a Genji or Hanzo it's an automatic loss.
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>>339391172
The skill level is almost the same now, and the stuff that's easier to do nerfs other essential elements of a class, so you trade in game making utility just to do some stupid bullshit differently or easier.
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>>339391384
>Counter-Strike
>Quake 3
>Half-life MP
>Any online shooter released before WoW even existed
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>>339387969
>Play widowmaker despite being unable to aim
I only do this when there's a turret or bastion my team is just unablestupid to deal with.
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>>339388441
>widow on offense
that's not necessarily bad.
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>>339391494
>Our team's Genji
That 11 year old kid who literally only watches Anime

>Enemy team's Genji
Literally Frank Jaeger incarnate
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>>339391494
>Hanzo
I wish more people used his wallhack arrows.
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>>339387969
it is actually, i stopped playing mobas some time ago and the complaints you fags have for overwatch its basically the exact same

and i mean the same

they already introduced skins before the game was even out and some people dare call it not a moba
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>>339391494

>Join game
>First 4 lock ins are Genji #1, Genji 2#, Hanzo and Widowmaker
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No. This is what it feels like to play a shitty TF2 ripoff.
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>>339391409
>Play TF2 again for the first time in years
>Half the team is awful and doing nothing
>Lead the charge with Soldier and manage to get the jump on enemy team
>Team is able to take off their autism helmets long enough to clean up the enemy team and cap
>Literally cannot under any circumstances carry a pub in Overwatch because there's almost no skill outside of aiming
>Enemy teams can just pop their I Win buttons if someone is getting an edge on them


This game will be dead in a year.
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>>339387969
>Play widowmaker despite being unable to aim

This is me. I'm shit at FPS games, but I really like playing snipers.
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>>339390495
pick up game, playing with ppl you're not familiar with/don't know
depending on the game, it could also mean 2 chosen captains form their team by picking one after the other a player from the spectators
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>>339392190
>complaining he can't single carry in a team based game
if you want to try though, pick mccree or widowmaker.
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>Play Windowmaker
>4 Gold medals constantly clearing Obj
>Team cant get the balls to go in and finish up
>Blames me
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>People saying OW will be dead in a year
>Worse case scenario I spent $40 for a year's worth of enjoyment

You're going to have to try harder to make me feel bad about buying this game.
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>>339387969

>defense
>2 widow makers or 2 ninja guys
>1 hanzo
>guy who picks the bjorn, but puts his turrent in a shitty spot and/or doesnt upgrade it to level 2
>reinhardt that doesnt use his shield for the team

theres LITERALLY no reason for there to be more than one character on a team. Theres fucking 21 different ones and only 6 players. (other than multiple bjorn on defense) And i know its fucking kids picking them only because "hurr dey look kewl"
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>>339392554
>theres LITERALLY no reason for there to be more than one character on a team.
don't you know the meta? double lucio, double winston.
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>>339392469
How?
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I like supports but the only support i think it is fun it is zenyatta. Would you guys be mad if i ended up picking him?

I'm not sure what i'm supposed to do as him too, staying on backline and tossing my orbs? I can't stand close to other people advancing because he literally dies in 1 hit from anything
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>>339392469
>Widow on offense
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>>339392370
It's a team based game with no tools for actually building a team unless you already have friends outside the game or squat in shitholes like /vg/ and reddit though.

It's not even on Steam, and if you want to get your Steam friends to buy it then you have to be "that guy" who bothers them on a regular basis to get into something they don't really care about, and at $40 fucking nobody is going to do that unless they're desperate for a TF2 knockoff, and from all the crappy design decisions in the game for everyone to see the people holding out aren't going to get into it unless Blizzard makes a shitton of changes, which they won't.
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>>339392554
>theres LITERALLY no reason for there to be more than one character on a team.
If there are two Mercy and both buff a character, does the buff add up or would it be the same than with just one Mercy?
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>>339389354
>route 66
>choose 76
>hanzo, widowmaker, and 2 genjis
>Me and DVa push the entire way
>4 gold medals, 3:03 of objective time
>93% o match on fire
>they commend the genji that was masturbating himself to reflects
Y tho
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>>339387969

There are always lower levels that play widow maker and hang back, maybe getting 3 or 4 kills top. I've been in games where there have multiple people doing this. It amazes me that they don't seem to notice how they are not helping and their team is losing. If I'm playing mei, I just start blocking them with icewalls eventually
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>>339392909
He actually said he was in the back of his teamates.
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Playing against a team with 4-6 Torbjorns is such bullshit
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>that guy who picks mercy and just switches to her gun and starts trying to shoot the other players and heals you as a secondary thing if he feels like it
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>>339393001
You could heal and buff at once but no stacking AFAIK
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>>339392546
Why waste money on a game with such a bad design that it murders itself within a year when you can just play all the F2P games that do basically the same thing
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It's just a video game, who cares if you win or lose?
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>>339387969
>playing a memeba game in 2016

You brought it on yourself. HotS was a clear indicator this game was going to be shit, and you fell for it.
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>>339387969
The most infuriating teammates are the ones who whine all game for absolutely no reason like OP probably does.
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>>339393001
The buffs are additive. +30% for the first, +60% with the second etc.

Using Mercy and Zenyatta, the results are multiplicative. +50% with the discord orb, +30% with the damage boost beam, total +95%.
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>Get the game at launch
>Playing with 5 other friends
>Already getting bored of it
>Constantly being bothered to play all the time because I'm the odd man out

Playing this game is going to turn into a chore soon enough.
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>>339388441
Widow on offense is perfectly fine as long as they're good. Something people really need to understand about this game is that if a team has a good widowmaker you absolutely HAVE to counter her or she will shut you the fuck down the entire match. Doesn't matter what side or game mode it is.
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>>339392920
you should just use Blizzard™s battlenet friends

surely you've played one of their great games, such as World of Warcraft™, Starcraft 2™, or Diablo 3™
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>>339387969

D:VA is Love
D:VA is Life

Praise D:VA
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So, how do you counter two junkrats? I mean, two Bastions is easy (two rhinehardts and a genji/pharah/widowmaker/76) but two Junkrats have continually pushed my shit in and I have no idea why. How do you even counter that?
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>>339393404
>as long as they're good

There's the issue
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does anyone have the player of the game video starring a torbjörn who persist on staring at widowmakers ass?
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>>339393486
see >>339393458
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>>339393416
Don't forget the blockbusters Hearthstone: Heroes of Warcraft™ and Heroes of the Storm™, my fellow Blizzard™ fan, or any of the classic titles recently added for prices so low you'll think they went crazy!
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Anyone else really enjoy playing Lucio? wish he had a bit more healing power though
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>>339393458
She's so cute I want to kiss her
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>>339393198
I wouldn't give a hoot in hell for a man who lost and laughed. That's why Americans have never lost, and will never lose a war... because the very thought of losing is hateful to Americans.
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>>339393458
I want someone dressed as her to rub their feet all over my face. I'd even pay.
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>>339393263
So, it would be possible to have a team of Six Mercy, 5 of them Healing/Buffing the sixth one who would solely play offence?

How effective would be this Great Ruse Master Plan.
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>>339393458
fucking gook shit
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>>339393993
If all five were buffing the sixth, the total buff would be +150% damage, meaning her blaster would deal 50 damage per shot, or 250 DPS.

Not really worth it desu.
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>>339393796
thanks
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>>339393993
>not just playing defense with an infinite circle of healing and outlasting the other team
riptire would cause problems though
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>>339393945
Same
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>>339387969
>Double pick classes which are already taken

Double picking heroes in some maps/situations is a good strategy. In fact, it's pretty popular in the current meta to do so.
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>>339393945
>>339394640
What do you think her feet smell like after a hard fight in that suit? Mmmm.
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Reaper by far has the coolest look and dialogue in the game
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>>339395009
Probably pretty sweaty she runs around a lot I'm expecting lavender
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>>339387969

No. Overwatch is like a retarded casual friendly instant gratification MOBA with 2 minute long matches.

Imagine everything you said and more to an extreme you've never even seen before while everyone argues with each other while getting shit on so hard by the enemy team you can't do anything for the next hour.

That's closer to the MOBA experience. And it's fucking brilliant. You guys will never understand the sheer rage you can cause by typing in 4 letters (gg ez).
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the worst thing about overwatch is that I can clearly tell that people discussing it haven't played a lot of fps
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>it's another attack/sniper only episode
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>>339393404
If the Rein has gold on kills and damage then the widow is a piece of shit that needs to change classes.
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>>339391785
That seems to be the case with Tracers, as well
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>>339393209
HOTS is the 2nd best MOBA on the market

The first is Smite
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>>339388681
This is what you call a retard ladies and gentlemen.

>Widow outclasses him as Sniper
>Actual useful ult that people can't see a mile away and dodge
>Hanzo is one of the last picked competitively with Widow in top 6
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>>339396519
epic contrarianism, lad
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>>339396895
It's not contrarianism

The further a game is removed from Dota, the better it is
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Why are you playing AAA memeshit again? Did you actually fall for the shilling?
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>>339396995
Despite all the rage at bad teams, it's fun when it works.
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>>339391815
Wait, people don't when they pick him? I mean I know I don't get a lot of kills with him but I keep that arrow up whenever I can to help the team. Suddenly I don't feel like I do so bad.
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>>339395483
>Also right now it is maybe the most unbalanced game ever made.
>You can just pick Bastion, and no matter what you do, you will gather the most kills. Every game i played so far had at least one Bastion

I love when shitters blame the game for their shittiness
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>>339397882
They forget about it. After all they are very important DPS source that can't be bothered with such trivial things.
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>>339398105
Oh, now I see why everyone hates when they are stuck with someone picking him. Why would they do that? The arrow gives you a mini Widomaker ult which is great. You just focus it on where the other team is making their plays, or around a wall. I may not kill many people but shit, at least help the rest of your team out.
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>>339387969

The average PUG games can be improved dramatically if they re categorize the heroes and change the team comp suggestion messages

Rein is the ONLY real tank in the game

Winston and DVa are flankers

Zarya and Roadhog are fighters / skirmishers

Symmetra and Zen can stay as Supports but Mercy and Lucio need to be changed to Healers

Remove suggestions for no builder and no sniper.

I guarantee that the average game will have better comps after these (and maybe a few more alterations) without even touching any number balancing
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>>339387969

Nah. In MOBAs you don't have the same 4 heroes appearing in 90% of the games.

Reinhardt, Bastion, Mercy, and Dwarf seem to be in every match i play.
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>>339398640

Change Dwarf to Lucio and yea, that sounds about right
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Thats pretty much just any teamwork heavy game OP. Saying this as someone who's played many such games.
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>>339398640
Where the hell are you playing? It's mcree and widowmaker for every game i'm playing.
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>>339398316
yeah more nonsense categories thats a good idea
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>>339398958

AY HOL UP WHY DIS EGYPTIAN BITCH AINT BLACK?!
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I always use my mic and try to give my team helpful tips.
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>Widowmaker on Hollywood defense
>Gold Medal Kills
>Gold Medal Damage
>Gold Medal Objective Kills
>lots of uptime on Ult vision
>Lose to a series of well coordinated DVa, Zarya, Mercy, and 76 ults
>"BG useless sniper"
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Winston and Junkrat are my go-to heroes, opinions?
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>>339400152
>nonsense categories
>Mercy and Lucio are undeniably healer classes
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>caring about whether you win or lose instead of just playing for fun

You fucking nerds need to chill out. Smoke some weed.
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>>339400448
low test faggot confirmed
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>>339400448
>weed
>degeneracy
>rotting your brain
disgusting
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>>339393458

>those petite tits giggle when she shoots in her play of the game animation

So is this game just TF2 with waifus?
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Never played Overwatch but TF2 was exactly the same

>Teammates are so stupid they literally cannot figure out objectives work
>Steal resources from engineers at almost full ammo
>Literally nobody plays Medic unless they're so frustrated of losing, or they're female, or mentally ill
>4 snipers 4 spies on a team of 10
The list goes on, stupidity isn't limited to one game.
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>2 random sprays
>ugly player icon
>victory stance for a hero you never use

They're doing it on purpose, aren't they?
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>>339400359
Lucio healing is actually worse than Zennyattas
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>tfw consistently carrying the team both offensively and defensively using Lucio
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>all those snipers who think they are safe up on their little perches
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>>339400750
same
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>>339400654
It's almost like they want you to buy the lootboxes in the cash shop
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>>339400654

voice lines and player icons are literally useless. Might as well just be the words "fuck you"

at least it turns into in game money if its a duplicate though
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>>339400697
You're an idiot. Zenyatta can only heal one target at a time. Lucio is always used in king of the hill because he can heal everyone around him without any effort
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>Ilios
>our support picks Mercy
>ask him to go Lucio since we need the speed-boost, area-healing and he can insta-kill by knocking people off the edge
>refuses and starts insulting me, says he can play what he wants
>he spends the rest of the game following a Genji

Kill me.
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>>339400750
how much damage and healing do you average a match? I was playing with friends and averaging between 1 and 2k for each but apparently that's total shit and I'm the scrublord
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>>339400654
>Ugly player icon
>"Ugly" player icon is equipped
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>>339387969
I'd be a good team mate and listen to your commands anon but i dont have the game
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>>339400284
Think of where Egypt is located. They have a long history of interbreeding with all sorts of races to become a super mixed race.
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>>339400928
healers are a support role hth

but you have swayed me, here are some further suggestions

hanzo - bow based offense
roadhog - hooky pig grabber
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>>339400958
I don't have any better ones and I play a lot of Reinhardt. ( ._.)
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I want to get this game but have never played an fps; being team based makes me more hesitant.
I play fighters where I only have myself to blame and no one can blame me.

I've already fapped to Tracer sucking off a horse so I think I'm in too deep and should just get the game. Where do I learn fps fundamentals?
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>>339400952
Is there really a reason to use Mercy when Lucio exists? He just trumps her in most regards.
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>die protecting the point alone
>nobody else contesting
>hit tab, whole team is alive
>spectate a bastion off in fucknut nowhere entering turret mode
>can see all the rest of the team alive and well running around like retards
>DEFEATED
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>>339400958
>>339401104
Nvm, it's not my screen, just a picture I googled. Didn't take a screen from my last box.
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The trick is the play really fucking badly the first 30 matches to lower your mmr. The game will then think you're a shitter and pair you up with high mmr guys, which hopefully will have a good gamesense.
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>on attack
>pick reinhardt
>have three snipers on our team
>constantly gaining ground with just me and lucio
>rest of the team is just hanging back trying to 360 noscope headshots for their youtube channel
>almost take the point with just me and lucio but of course we can't 2v6
in other news Lucios are the best teammates
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Zarya carries HARD on KOTH maps. I had a Lucio with me at Nepal just now and we wiped the entire team multiple times, I don't think my gun's charge fell below 70 for the whole round

And then Tracer got POTG for a pulse bomb stick
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>>339400613
The BIG difference is you can carry your team in TF2 if you are good enough. In Overwatch you just suck shit and lose with some "you tried" gold medals.
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>>339401156
Lucio has no focus-healing, which is necessary to exert pressure on a defense. Unless you can completely out-maneuver it. His speed boost is also useless defending payloads. Mercy can be very useful if paired with a Phara that allows her to float above a position.
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>>339390495
Pick up group.
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>>339401156
>30% damage boost
>res
Thats about it
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>Be Tank or Defense or someone immoblie
>Keep getting one shotted by 1-2 Widowmakers
>No one does a thing about it

Literally the most annoying thing is walking out and getting one-shotted by a Widow and when I call it out no one does a damn thing about it so I have to fuck up the team comp just to shut her stupid ass down.

Fuck Widowmaker.
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>>339401258
The problem is that she's really dependant on her team-mates to get her charge up. Once you're on a roll she's unstoppable.

I just wish the beam of her weapon was a little wider, making it easier to follow targets at close range (which you'll have to be anway due to its range).
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>>339401587
Play Reinhardt, his shield can counter her pretty hard, as long as your team stays behind it.
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>turrents are ripping us a new asshole
>switch to reinhardt to equip my shield and allow team mates to hide behind me while they shoot at the turrents and destroy them
>they all run past my shield in different directions
>look and see 2 fucking people switched to widow makers
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>>339401156
Some gimmicky single-heal strats. She also cleans up some clusterfucks (like Reaper's ult killing 3-4 of your pals).

Not much else.
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>>339401745
>as long as your team stays behind it.

I'll take "Things that never happen" for 1000.
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>>339400750
>Playing as Lucio on that illos (or that map in Greece)
>Use secondary and push people off the ledge or into that giant hole/pit.
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>>339401649
oh yeah, the Lucio was really smart in that regard

he frequently baited them to attack him intentionally when he knew my shield was up to top me off, all without any real communication between us. It was pretty neat
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>>339401791
This happened last night but my team actually stayed behind my shield and we pushed the payload to win with like 50 seconds left. I was shocked
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>last person to pick sees that there is no support and no builder
>hur durr I'll kill two birds with 1 stone, then everyone will like me :DDDDDD!
>plays symmetra
>tells me to fuck off when I ask them to switch to a healer
Every. Fucking. Time.
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I've played 30 games in a row.
In all these games I made an effort to be the last pick.

Not a single person took support. Occasionally someone picked Roadhog, D.Va or Zarya as a tank.

I'm trying to git gud at Zenyatta so I played mostly him with mixed results.

I'm impressed the enemy team always had supports on them.
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>>339401862
Sometimes the stars do align. Had a Soldier:76 staying behind me on a payload map and very effectively taking out enemies in the middle-distance. Since he didn't have to dodge or take cover, he could put out a lot of pressure.
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>Defense
>3 people pick Torbjörn. 1 idiot picks Tracer
>Pick healslut because why not
>Constantly fly from turret to turret while other team gets hilariously stomped
>Tracer shitter constantly runs away from the objective point and bitches at me for not helping them

I have yet to see a good Tracer. They either fuck off to who knows where, blink around while not actually doing anything, or once in a while getting a kill with their ult
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>>339387969
>New game
>Instalock Widowmaker followed by a Hanzon in attack

Always happens. ALWAYS.
And they are ALWAYS FUCKING HORRIBLE -AND- HIGH LEVELED.
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>>339402096
If you want a healer, you should play a healer. It's not rocket science
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Would 4 turrets + 2 Reinhardt work?
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>>339402282
I've seen about 3-5 of them. Good Tracers are the most annoying little bastards in existence and they know their role, aka distracting the enemy, getting them away from payloads, flanking, etc.
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>>339393076
You got the win
Why do you care about meaningless votes from strangers?
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>Attacking Volskaya B
>Everyone walks in one at a time and is killed
>Suggest in chat that we all bunch up and attack under Lucio's sound barrier
>Nobody listens, continues feeding kills until time runs out
>Four red cards at the end including a Widowmaker with 33 eliminations

fucking
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>>339387969
Lets be real here for a second
Does anyone actually want to play support? Am I missing something here?
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>>339401587
>playing torb
>wipe enemy team the moment they exit
>enemy switches to pharah
>i switch to widow
>they switch to winston
>i switch to reaper
>they switch to pharah again
>the cycle continues
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>play widow
>only one getting kills
>4 golds including objective time
>'widow switch'

So far my rule that the worst players on the team are the most vocal hasn't been broken.
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I LIKE THAT BALANCE THO
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>>339400654
I'm only lvl 10 and I got valkyrie mercy without buying anything which is one of the most expensive skins in the game.
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>>339402389
If I'm playing tank and I'm the only person who wants to play tank I'm not going to switch to a healer so some idiot can play as their Indian waifu
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>>339402389

Not that guy, but it's gotten to the point where I don't trust pugs to make the most of me going support for them, so I just play Mei and tool around like a fag because at least she's fun win or lose.

>>339402567

I play support exclusively in premades unless one of my friends feels like trying.
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>>339387969
Don't bother typing, just use voice chat.
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>>339387969
>Playing with a buddy on Anubis
>Two players lock Mercy
>Other two lock snipers (one widowmaker, one hanzo)

We lost in two minutes. Neither Mercy even used their ultimates the whole time.
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>>339402567
i enjoy zeny
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MY89ZAWwHU

i can heal and i can melt tanks, granted im only healing 4-5k but healing the right people is what counts
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>Britfag
>15 hours logged
>Never once heard anyone say anything over voice chat

Is this what it's like everywhere?
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>it's a "there's already a Genji on the team so you shouldn't switch, but he is fucking retarded and doing jack shit to stop the Bastion tearing our team apart" episode
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>>339387969
I probably am one. I only play D.Va but I'm pretty good as her. Hit and run and such. She's especially good with a healer. My first match ever I got play of the game with her ult, killed 4 with it and then a 5th with her pistol before I called another mech. It felt great.
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>be lucio because eveyone picked offensive heroes
>push the cart objective
>everyone is running ahead of the cart just hunting people or widow is just in the back shooting people
>Tell them we have to push the cart to win
>They dont listen
>fuck it i will push the cart myself
>They call me a shit healer who wont heal them
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>>339402567
Lucio is cool
>increased movement speed
>passive AOE heal
>high accuracy cannon thing
>can fuck peoples aim up or kill them by knocking them back
>wears fruit boots
he's main worthy
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>>339387969
overwatch = team fortress + waifus = 8 snipers, 9 spies and 6 engies, but female on each team
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>>339391562
Wow is not the first MMO retard.
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>>339402863
Literally no one cares. If you want a healer, play a healer.
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Zenyatta basketball skin when?
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>>339403078
>it's a "the opposing team genji solos your entire teams dps while you solo push the cart as a healer"
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>>339402482
Why do you care about the win? It's just 3 letters displayed on your screen. What matters is that your useless teammates acknowledge that you're the reason they won.
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>>339402567

I probably have the most hours on support.

Its actually pretty fun.
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>>339400654
>multiple victory poses for characters you don't play
I have all 3 poses for Winston with 0 minutes played.
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>>339403078

>its a "theres like 15 seconds left and all of your team mates are still alive but for some reason they all refuse to even set on foot on the point to try and capture it" episode
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>>339403564
aka the "I'm shit at the game and can't handle high responsibility roles'" class
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>>339387969
don't play alone
if you honestly have no friends to play with, than you spent $40 to get angry
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>>339403378
Symmetrafag detected. I'm fine with symmetra but only if there is another healer because unless you are playing with a coordinated group of friends then you will lose
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>>339403648

Give him a shot, he's really fun if you like fucking up snipers, tracers and backlines in general
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>>339403740
You just described all CC and DPS oriented roles, not healer and tank.
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>ultimates
>slows
>crowd control abilities

these are all shitty moba mechanics

the game is otherwise pretty fun
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>>339403753
Maybe that other healer should be you.
I have more time on Lucio than all other characters combined, with a whopping 22 minutes of symmetra.
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>>339403740

Not at all, when its open I love playing Genji and Pharah and can carry no issue, theres just a different vibe I get from supporting that I enjoy.
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>That feel when i have no friends playing fps
>That feel when i have no friends playing anything on battlenet
>That feel when no community servers to play with the same persons everyday
The most fun i ever had in a shooter was playing on an original Day of Defeat clan server for years.
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>>339388367
>where 4-6 can be shit and the rest of you can carry
What? Are you playing on american servers? On Euro servers, I never have teams like this. Usually, there's one tryhard soldier who recks everything because the 13 year old slav-larvae leave all the health packs to him and are unable to do any damage to him and I who has to go up against the entire enemy team using the teammates as nothing but moving meatshields.

Don't believe me?
Play medic. You'll notice just how bad the situation has actually become.
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>>339400347
It's hilarious, people don't even check their scores before talking shit.

>Torbjörn on Nubani
>Some guy starts whining about my turret placement
>He's playing McRee
>Mfw Kills, Damage and Objective Kills gold medals
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Idk how to voice chat on PS4...I'm serious. That might help me.
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>>339403537
Considering Quick Play has an actual mmr based on win ratio meaning I'll be less likely to play with shitters. You know you did well so isn't that enough?
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>>339404205
except if you get initially placed at a low MMR/ELO/Rank, you'll be stuck with shitters as long as you keep losing with incompetent teams.

see: CSGO, DOTA 2, LOL
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>>339403879
A mercy can be the shittiest player in the world and still do fairly well. Have a shitty player play widowmaker or mcree and they're absolutely useless.
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>>339389729
Mei is pretty good at pubstomping
You just flank and roll over their supports
Also wall has a lot of applications to fuck uncoordinated teams over
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which tank is good for which modes/maps? I tried playing Winston and the no support meme was real
other tanks look around too damn quickly making their shield useless even if I'm standing behind it
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>>339404351
A shit Mercy is worthless. Think of one who keeps his healing beam on a full health Reinhardt all game. A shit Lucio provides some passive benefits.

The best Mercy players are more helpful than the best Lucio players IMO. When you've got one who can flit all over the place rescuing everyone and applying damage boosts at the right time, she hardly ever needs to use her ultimate.
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>>339404614
other people using tanks*
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>all the memers with names like uwotm8 playing Mei
>they are all predictable because they do the same shit
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>>339404614
Winston if there are plenty of squishy back-liners
Zarya if you have another tank and can actually play video games
Reinhardt in all other situations
Roadhog is more of an assassin
D.Va is a high-health skirmisher.
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>Play a one or two good games
>Team is finally starting to cooperate
>Fuck You, searching for new game for Ya
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>>339388681
>useful ult
You mean the thing with a 12second cooldown?
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can someone gift me overwatch so i can contribute to complaining in threads
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>>339387969
>>Dumbfuck teammates
This usually means it's the same for enemy team, they just happens to be in the lead atm.

As long as you don't play as 'dumb as they', you could score an opportunity to switch the game around. Besides, what do you expect when quick play is all there is? Though when ranked mode comes out, it's going to be double pick meta, which is probably even worse then playing with dumb teammates in the longer run.

Here, have a fresh Reinhardt webum
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>>339405000
sent ;)
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>>339404641
>A shit Mercy is worthless. Think of one who keeps his healing beam on a full health Reinhardt all game.
Assuming the person playing has the slightest degree of sentience, they won't be doing that. I'm talking about the shit players who know what they're supposed to be doing, but don't have the trained muscles to put their plan into action. There's really not much reflex or muscle memory required to play mercy, so there's no gap to bridge between intention and execution like there is when you're trying to score long distance headshots.
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>>339403892
>You should be the teams only tank and the teams only healer at the same time!

You people are dense as fuck
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>playing Overwatch on PS4
>mfw off doing my own thing but generally conscious of team dynamics and what is going on in the field
>mfw every once in a while I hear a dumb whining faggot on the mic going WAAAAAAH SHITTY TEAM HHJSBJAKKJDLAIHWQBJ or just generally raging over inane shit (not involving me)

I rarely play video games, but holy fuck this shit is funny. Get a grip. If we need support, I play support. If we need a tank, I play tank. If my team is filled with dipshits doing le ebin XD shit like placing Mei in all slots I play the fuck along. I don't give a fuck.
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>>339405000
get a mcjob or beg mommy for some allowance money
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>>339404081
Well the first step would be to have a headset...
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>>339405107
an actual healer is more important than a tank in certain situations. Especially if you're playing one of those garbage pseudo tanks
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