Does this version of the game fix most of the problems?
I dropped the original DS2 within the first 2 hours.
>>339318334
>Does this version of the game fix most of the problems?
It fixes some of the areas with terrible enemy placement, it makes the torch more useful, and it adds a lot of NPC invaders and summons. On console it has better visuals and 60fps, on PC it's identical to the original. The most noteworthy thing is that it includes all the DLC, which is the best content in the game and some of the best in the entire series.
>I dropped the original DS2 within the first 2 hours.
Then you wouldn't even know what those problems were, you just have second-hand information from clueless tards on /v/. Try thinking for yourself sometime.
>>339318334
It's still shit since the combat is unresponsive and floaty as fuck.
Also the ""improved"" enemy placement is even worse than the original
The hitboxes are still fucked
>>339318590
the dlc is garbage
ds1 dlc was way more entertaining
No, it's still the worst game of all time. Don't play it. You're better off jabbing yourself in the eye with a fork for 3 hours. That is how bad DaS2 is. It is LITERALLY the greatest sin committed by video games.
>>339318590
first post best post
>>339320150
This is what /v/ unironically believes.
>>339320150
>memeing this hard
>>339318334
>doesn't fix stupid design decisions
No
>>339318334
>I dropped the original DS2 within the first 2 hours.
You obviously won't like the game even with the DLC, nice pointless thread
>>339318334
It has best boss.
>>339319234
The multi quote shitposter strikes again. I wonder why you even bother wasting bandwidth.
>>339318590
>which is the best content in the game
as someone who played the the DLC, this is bullshit.
Sunken King is badly designed like the rest of the game.
Do not get Scholar of the First Sin
>>339320738
locked behind bullshit DLC
>>339322089
>Sunken King is badly designed
Out of the three DLCs, you picked the one with god-tier level design to meme on.
>>339322346
it's the only one I played.
Never touched the others due to the very bad impression I got from Sunken King
>>339322435
Why though? It's as close to a Zelda-type game the souls series ever got close to.
Out of the three, Ivory King has the weakest level design, but it has best final boss presentation.
>>339322543
>Why though?
it looks nice but :
it's a bitch to navigate + horrible enemy placement + plus everything being very resistant to my entire arsenal (poison arrows, hexes, fire longsword, lighting magic, regular magic) = a really bad designed DLC that I quit before I got to a boss
>>339322346
It's Dark Souls 2, so that means it's badly designed and awful in every way.
>>339322762
I disagree wih you on the "horrible enemy placement" and "bitch to navigate" but I guess we'll have to agree on disagreeing.
>>339318590
First post best post.
>>339322089
>as someone who played the the DLC
>Sunken King is badly designed
How to spot a liar.
>>339318334
Ds2 and SOTFS are the best co-op souls games. Lots of enemies and bosses with Adds gives multiple players more to do. Add in having the most diversity with builds and everyone can be doing completely different things in a fight and still be effective.
Ds1 is good but with lack of bosses scaling with you they become a joke and there's not really enough enemies for the second player to fight either
Ds3 is a bit better than ds1 in this regard because bosses and enemies do scalem but the hit first to win combat really drags it down
I unfortunately never got the chance to play Demons Co-op but apparently that was a good time.
i have a question. do you guys read walkthroughs or read hints as to where to go for dlc stuff? i remember a friend telling me that i missed a ton of dark souls 1 dlc because i couldn't find anything. i played the ds2 and i'm not sure i did everything especially because i don't know what is dlc and what is not. Also another question, do you guys read stratigies on how to deal with bosses or how to level up and stuff? Just curious how many of you do that, i can't bring myself to do it even though i'm missing out
>>339323282
>How to spot a lair
Can't admit that the DLC is as flawed as the rest of the game?
>>339323783
>can't admit I'm objectively wrong?
ayy
>>339320392
>Fume Knight
Not even this sub par boss can save DaS2 from being the shittiest souls game ever made.
>>339323601
blind first run, guides on successive runs
>>339323909
How am I wrong. Sunken King was shit like the rest of the game
>>339323992
Souls game are all shit anyway.
>>339318590
>makes the torch more useful
What.
From what I remember it didn't do jack shit with torches, you still give out a bright white glow out of your body.
>>339324010
I disagree with you. Therefore you are wrong.
ez
>>339318334
Don't get the last gen version since it doesn't include the changed enemy and item placements.
>>339324043
No anon , only DaS2 is shitty the other souls games are good.
>>339324010
where do you get your information?
>>339324153
The other games are good if you have brain cancer, have never played Severance: Blade of Darkness and are 11.
>>339318334
Combat is still a mess, the game still feels like it's imitating a Souls game rather than being an official entry in the series. Some of the more superficial issues are fixed, though, and it does include DLC.
>>339324116
you actually get something for lighting the scones in the areas now I think.Got a red phantom to come out in the area right after the old hags in the beginning of the game.
>>339324216
>where do you get your information?
gamefaqs, threads on /v/ and /vg/
If you can get used to the sluggier combat and boring first half (i.e. most of vanilla), you'll be greeted by a cool npc and make your way to the good parts: the DLC.
>>339324234
So why are you posting on a souls thread if you don't like the games?
>>339324302
Lighting the statue in the Undead Crypt will give you agita too.
>>339318334
>>339319234
>>339319568
>>339322089
>>339323783
>>339324010
>HURRR DARK SOUL 2 BAD CUZ YOUTUBE VIDEO TELL ME LOL MUH B TEAM I CANT FORM MY OWN OPINIONS I JUST PARROT EVERYTHING I SEE ON /V/ BECAUSE I AM AN AUTISTIC FAGGOT THANK YOU MATTHEWPHIMOSIS FOR HELPING ME FORM THESE SHITTY OPINIONS GOD BLESS BASED MIYAZAKI FOR CREATING ALL OF THE SOULS GAMES EXCEPT 2 AND I REFUSE TO ACKNOWLEDGE ANY OF THE GLARING FLAWS IN THE OTHER GAMES BECAUSE MIYAZAKI CAN DO NO WRONG DUDE B TEAM LMAO
this is you right now
>>339324410
So why are you posting in a DS2 thread if you don't like the game?
That's right.
>>339324463
you took the time to do this?
What's a good weapon to infuse magic/enchanted in SotFS? I'm not planning to raise STR/DEX much higher than 10, might go 10/16 for Uchi since I've not yet used DEX weapons in 2. If it means anything, I'm playing with a friend and I'm mostly spell support.I've posted this in three threads, I feel embarrassed for myself.
>>339324463
>>HURRR DARK SOUL 2 BAD CUZ YOUTUBE VIDEO TELL ME
joke's on you, I actually played it so your strawman will not work on me
>>339324507
OP is asking if SOTFS fixes the mess that was DaS2 , so I came to post my opinion on a game that I have played and felt that it was shit from beginning to end
>>339324692
And I'm arguing about your dubious taste in games.
>>339324692
So you played 50 hours of a game that you hated, that's nice
>>339324692
>OP is asking if SOTFS fixes the mess that was DaS2
and it does not
>>339323601
Ds1 and Des I had a lot spoiled for me since I saw playthroughs before I played the game
Ds1 dlc I looked up how to get to the dlc, but played it blind
Ds2 I played completely blind on first playthrough and only looked up stuff on ng+
also played SOTFS mostly blind but I saw all of the dlc bosses before I played and never played the dlc until then.
BB was blind. Missed Cainhurst Castle, which is apparently the best area but I have no desire to replay the game for it or the dlc
Ds3 was as blind as it could be, but considering everyone already knew everything player messages spoiled everything.
really sucks that I didn't get to play the best games blind.
>>339324602
Longsword is always a safe bet.
>>339324924
>Cainhurst Castle, which is apparently the best area
worst area next to forbidden woods IMO
>>339324797
Well I got DaS2 on release and was really disappointed with it so I decided to skip the DLC.I bought BB and loved it and the DLC was really good so it got me thinking that from had released an update to DaS2 and a lot of people said it was really good so I went and got scholar and still felt like the game was shit.
>>339324909
No it doesn't fix the problems in fact in some parts its worse and the hit boxes are still a mess.
DaS1 is still the worst Souls game simply because everything after the Soulvessel is just bad.
Lost Izalith and the Demon Ruins are worse than any area in DaS2 and every boss after SV is just a lackluster like Nito or complete garbage Bed of Chaos or Centipede Demon.
Put people keep praising this shit simply because they like the lore. But sorry - Gameplay weights more.
>>339319568
How is a rehashing of a shit area and an empty cavern more entertaining?
>>339325417
because it was decently designed, something that DaS2 did not have in Sunken King
>>339325390
DaS2 is shit deal with it kiddo.
>>339325519
The only thing it had for itself were some pointless shortcuts. The rest is either flat lands or straight tunnels. It had SOME secrets, but not nearly as any as Shulva.
>>339325578
Don't care if you call DaS2 shit or not.
I am only saying that DaS1 is worse. Which is a fact.
>>339324463
Not any of those guys but I played the game and I didn't enjoy it very much. Is that not something I'm allowed to feel?
>>339325714
NO DELETE THIS HAHA DS2 IS SHIT
>>339325714
No the title of worst souls game belongs to DaS2.
>>339325718
they will still lump you in with the people who they think only watched some review of DaS2 and never played it
>>339325519
>because it was decently designed
Sunken king is basically the same shit as the Artorias DLC when it comes to level and enemy design, the only real difference is the areas they take place
Oolacile
>Vertical design with elevators
>Enemies are old inhabitants of the land who went insane with the darkness, witches and soldiers
Sunken king
>Vertical design with elevators
>Enemies are old inhabitants of the land who went insane with the darkness, witches and soldiers
You have autism.
>>339320738
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztPGThfD_GY
>>339325881
if its requires Souls to be in the title I'd say 3 is the worst, but if Bloodborne counts than I say it takes it no contest.
>people actually enjoyed fighting the Ayslum Demon
>people actually enjoyed fighting the farting Ayslum Demon
>people actually enjoyed fighting the burning farting Asylum Demon
>people actually enjoyed falling into the pits of Bed of Chaos
>people actually enjoyed the snoozefest of a fight that is Moonlight Butterfly
>people actually enjoyed fighting the Taurus Demon a million times
>people actually enjoyed fighting the Capra Demon a million times
>people actually enjoyed the DPS gank that is Four Kings
>people actually enjoyed watching Nito deal with his own skeletons
>people actually enjoyed running around Seath in hunt for his tail
>people actually enjoyed parrying the final boss Gwyn to death in 5 seconds making the entire climax a desaster
>>339325996
Sunken King is shit.
Try and defend the queen's boss fight senpai.
PROTIP:You can't
>>339326096
everyone knows Izalith is shit. if you have 30 humanity you can skip most of it fortunately
>>339325996
except there is one big difference you forgot to mention:
Oolacile is in Dark Souls 1's DLC. Which is a well designed game
Sunken king is in Dark Souls 2's DLC. It's badly designed like the rest of Dark Souls 2.
>>339325996
The enemies, layouts and bosses are extremely different, how can you even compare them outside of they are both DLC?
Sure they both have elevators, but that's every area of both of the games
>>339326256
90% of DS1 is shit after you got the soul vessel.
If not for the DLC DS1 would only have like 2 actually decent bossfights out of over 20.
the real question is, does it fix the shitty "optional" bosses?
>>339326092
>if its requires Souls to be in the title I'd say 3 is the worst
Are we not talking about souls games? and no BB shits all over DaS2 , I think DaS2 was your first souls game so you think its the shit when is not.
>>339326139
On the contrary, it's a battle that changes from the usual and worn-out "get in the arena and face that enemy 1 on 1".
>>339326139
>queen's boss fight
I've honestly never understood the hate that goes around /v/ when it comes to that boss, she's easy as hell if she summons the skeletons. She's annoying, but that's really it about her.
>>339326301
Oh, you're just shitposting.
>>339326347
I never came across this outfit in Ds 1
How the hell do you get it? What is it called?
>>339326473
It fixes nothing anon, DaS2 is just a shit game but to be fair the game had to be redone from scratch more than half way though development.
>>339318334
It fixes the most problems that the base game shouldn't have had.
Like Soul Memory
And hitting corpses degrading weapons
That said, I still love it.
>>339318590
ds2s dlc was the worst dlc ever, how could you defend that homosexual trio ds2 calls a boss
>>339326632
Channeler's. It's in a chest in the Archives.
>>339326609
>if
being the key word. I just love bossfights boiling down to a dice roll. I also like recycled bosses that get summoned during other bosses for no reason.
>>339326707
>complaining about optional bosses
ayy
>>339326638
Then it's still a shit game and can be a reminder that from, without the lead dev, makes garbage.
I heard they've announced they're making another souls game without him.
And history will repeat itself.
>>339326609
>Oh, you're just shitposting.
says the guy defending Dark Souls 2
>>339319568
Holy fuck no. AllI remember from DS1 DLC is Artorias and Manus and the fucking claustrophobic forest and cave I had to sprint to get to them.
>>339326737
But Stray/Firesage or Champion Gundyr are completely okay, though.
>>339318334
>I dropped the original DS2 within the first 2 hours.
I swear that you idiots just base your opinions on what others on the internet tell you. I prefer 2 to 1, and I played 1 first.
>>339326903
>Stray/Firesage
They're recycled but not DURING ANOTHER BOSSFIGHT
>Gundyr
Haven't played 3 yet senpai
>>339326846
says the guy posting smug anime faces
>>339326737
That's stupid though, if she summons Velstadt you just kill him, he has a really tiny health bar compared to her if you're not using a rapier, it's also dumb for you to make it seem like a strange thing in dark souls to have something unexpected happen while playing, the invasion system on itself is a dice roll.
>>339326903
if you really wanted to hit him hard on them recycling things in a game.
Every boss in daso3 'transforms'
Just like bloodborne.
and don't get me wrong, I love both bloodborne and 3, but it's pretty shit that he just took mechanics from a technically non-souls game and put them in a souls game.
>>339327134
Nah I just want to wallow in shitposting like him.
>>339326981
>Recycled bosses are better than a boss summoning a recycled boss as a regular enemy
Autism.
>>339326509
Des was my first and Das1 was my favorite.
Das3's combat sucks since its mostly hit them before they hit you and most of its level design was big open spaces with trees
BB had a similar problem, but instead of hitting enemies first it was just use charge attacks to win. Level design is better than ds3 and ds2, but that doesnt mean much when your combat sucks. Environments were also way to samey and it got old really fast seeing the same gothic cathedrals everywhere. Henwick was the only breath of fresh air you got in the game
>>339327339
DELETE THIS
>>339326993
at least I can back up why the DaS2 DLC is ass.
You have been going "nope" "you're wrong" "shitposter" "autism"
>mfw all these sunken king hater cucks who never witnessed the glory that is King's Field IV and haven't had a hit of nostalgia and awe at Shulva literally being the Ancient City
Cucks, the lot of you
>>339327339
To each their own I guess , I felt BB was really good in the combat dept and loved all the areas in the game.As for DaS3 I feel the combat is better than DaS2 in every way.DaS2 feels like you're fighting underwater and adding a stat like agility just made things worse.
>>339327474
You're just saying that it has bad designed because it's Dark Souls 2, it's not really backing up anything, it's just obvious that you're shitposting, because you aren't being serious in the slightest.
>>339327474
>"HURR DS2 IS BAD BECAUSE I SAID SO"
>thinking your opinion is in any way shape or form valid or relevant while posting smug reaction images
Truly the worst kind of human being.
![[Commie] JoJo's Bizarre Adventure - 13 [3B4DB5F9].mkv_snapshot_01.04_[2013.01.07_12.23.32].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/1dSl37j.jpg "[Commie] JoJo's Bizarre Adventure - 13 [3B4DB5F9].mkv_snapshot_01.04_[2013.01.07_12.23.32].jpg")
>>339327785
>You're just saying that it has bad designed because it's Dark Souls 2
it's badly designed like the rest of Dark Souls 2. At least read the post chain before you say stupid shit.
>>339327832
and yet I see no decent defense of DaS2 or it's DLC. You keep on attacking me because of my smug anime images thinking that will discredit my opinion on a bad game + bad DLC I played
>beat nashandra and the rest of the game no problem
>start up the DLCs
>get to that shitty boss that summons velstadt for some reason
>every single attack does barely a sliver of her health, even while two-handing a UGS
>well okay then
>start iron king instead
>fume knight is a cool boss but again, two-handing a UGS barely scratches him
>sure
>play ivory king up til that tiger boss
>ridiculously poor hitboxes on near every attack and it also has a metric assload of health
>okay game
>go back to sunken king, only manage to beat the boss because i cheesed her by leaving one of her pig summons alive while slowly whittling her health down
what in the fuck happened? i didn't have this issue anywhere else in the game (nor in any of the other soulsborne games, it can't be a "git gud" issue)
>>339327986
No, I'm "attacking you" because of your smug anime images because it automatically makes you a fag enabler and invalidates any opinion you could form on the basis of you being mentally challenged. It's okay, though, nobody's perfect.
>>339328059
>exagerating in order to make a point
Acquire talent.
>>339324463
>Hurr Dark Souls 2 apologist getting assblasted.
Fuck off faggot I've played 2, and it really is the worse Souls game released.
>>339328114
can't handle the truth that DaS2 is shit? You are going for a lame cop-out to try and avoid defending this shit game?
>>339327986
Jojo is shit
>>339327986
>it's badly designed like the rest of Dark Souls 2. At least read the post chain before you say stupid shit.
I did, you're the one who's saying the whole game is bad designed, just because it's DS2, which is wrong really, because there's a clear line between the regular game's level design and the DLC.
>and yet I see no decent defense of DaS2 or it's DLC
And not a single post was read, at least not the ones without (You)s in them, see? Shitposting.
>>339328224
Not him, I actually grew to love SOTFS, but come on, Elana and the mud Vedstadt were fucking bullshit. I'm not the worst player (not the best, either), and I still had to summon a friend for that fight because her every attack dealt a fuckton of damage since I'm not a havelfag, the attacks are AoE, and there's also minions.
Aava and double Aava are also ass.Had to summon because it wasn't fun and felt spastic and random, with no sense of progress.
Good stuff otherwise.
>>339328387
The truth is that DaS2 has mixed opinions, people find it great, people find it bad.
Thinking it is objectively bad because you personally didn't enjoy it makes you wrong per se, therefore damaging any opinion you could have formed previously.
It's basic logic.
>>339328224
how am i exaggerating ? that was exactly how my experience with the DSII DLCs went. i'm not even trying to make a point (if i was, i'd have also mentioned the awful level design in sunken king), i'm just curious as to why they're balanced so much differently compared to every other souls game
>>339328590
>because there's a clear line between the regular game's level design and the DLC.
the DLC looks nice in DaS2 but the DaS2 DLC suffers from the same issues that plagued DaS2
I don't know, I can't find Elana difficult (Sinh, on the other hand, wrecks my face anytime). Velstadt doesn't have that much health, and if you get your dodges right, you can completely ignore him and focus all your attacks on the queen. Otherwise, an upgraded greatshield works wonders against his attacks.
Also, if you solo the game, remember you have brightbugs.
>>339328816
Like what?
>>339328898
meant to reply to
>>339328593
>>339328593
>I still had to summon a friend for that fight because her every attack dealt a fuckton of damage
Then don't get hit. They do a fuckton of damage because they're telegraphed to all hell and back.
I don't even know why you specifically mention the AoE part because all enemy attacks are "AoE" and you can dodge AoE attacks just as easily as anything else in these games. It's difficult to believe that you even know what an i-frame is.
>>339328970
>Like what?
read the damn thread, it's already been mentioned
>>339329073
All I see is one guy shitposting, some people making valid points about it being bad, but none about the level design, all I see is one guy claimming 1's DLC design was better, but that's it, no reason or anything.
>>339329070
Don't get all wound up, anon. Everytime I fight her, the telegraphed attacks feel spatially random to me even if they aren't, so that becomes a matter of timing your i-frames rather than spacing, something I'm not good at, and something I don't think is good for a bossfight design anyway.
>>339326679
Soul memory is still in Scholar, isn't it?
>>339329486
>something I'm not good at
I don't think a game's inability to cater to the handicapped should reflect negatively on it, but you're entitled to your own opinion.
>>339329780
It is, but there's a ring to fix it, previous poster forgot to mention it was fixed on base game too.
>>339329834
But it just boils down to a timing QTE rather than an actual spacing decision. With most other bosses, I can see that the attack is coming and WHERE it's going. With Elana, it's just random spurts out of everywhere that you have to time i-frames with. That's just not cool.
How to trigger the fuck out of the dumbest community
>DaS 2 is bad
or
>DaS 2 is good
>>339330532
No truer words were ever spoken.
>>339330532
people think DaS2 is good?
Any of you guys have unresponsive sprinting? As in you have to hold the run button for like 4 fucking seconds before you start running? Wondering if my controller is going to shit or something.
>>339330063
>That's just not cool.
Then get close to her, you git.
Of course, rhythmically timing dodge rolls while being swarmed by skeletons is the definition of spacing so either way you're thick.
>>339327134
Bloodborne is basically a souls game in everything except name, so I don't know why people get autistic about it not being part of the series, Demons to Dark was around the same amount of difference as Dark to BB in everything except setting
>>339330789
It's always been that way, and is worse if you let your stamina run out completely.
>>339330769
people think DaS2 is bad?
>>339330769It is better than 3 in its current state.
>>339330967
>people think DaS2 is bad?
it's commonly agreed by the fanbase it's the worst. Hell, look at this very thread
>>339331076
It's commonly agreed that the souls fanbase is laughable at best, a nuisance to video games in general at worst.
>>339331076
>Hell, look at this very thread
>Decent ammount of people who defend it
>>339331059
This, how could they fuck up so badly?what the fuck were they on while making anal rodeo???
>>339330789
If you let stamina run out you have to wait until it fully regens to sprint again
>>339318334
The patch made the game wayyyy better. Been playing it myself recently, almost feels like a brand new game
>>339331059
>It is better than 3 in its current state.
I find that hard to believe
>>339318334
no, just change enemy locations and lighting, the npcs are still charismatic as rocks and the story is the same.
>>339332363
It really is, Dark Souls 3 is a new game, but it brings very little to the table, if you go to the wiki you'll find that 40% of the armors are from DS1, 30% from DS2, and only 30% of it is new content, it's pretty bad, feels like a huge ''bazinga'' from the devs.
Is it true that the DLC bosses are balanced around summoning? I thought I heard that someplace. I was able to steamroll Elana before she shat out a Velstadt but I found myself having to summon for Sinh. I got Aava eventually but Burnt Ivory King might be a roadblock for me. Overall I like the level design and enemies in the DLC a lot, better than the base game for sure.
>>339332363
DS2 wins handsdown in:
- Build variety (fixable)
- Amount of content (fixable)
- Amount of bosses (yes, quality>quantity but when normal combat is terrible in both games quantity is important too)
- Variety of areas (DS3 is a retread at best and a literal copy-paste at worst of DS1's castle, swamp, forest, catacombs, archives theme).
- Estus and rolling mechanics (unpunishable estus and low-stamina rolling makes PvP tedious and makes boss encounters rely on one-shotting you to have any chance of killing you)
- Environmental interactivity (DS3 has... the catacombs bridge? A few floor plates with arrows that we've seen a million times before?)
DS3 wins in other areas, but I put enough value on the above to prefer DS2.
>>339332991
The optional zones and bosses (ganksquad, cool ranch smelter and lmao 2cat) are balanced around summoning.
As for the other ones, they're difficult but that's because I'm bad at the game.
>>339332973
I did ask some guys who bought Dark Souls 3 and asked them how it was (because I was worried that DaS3 was going to be as bad as DaS2 and I did mention that when I asked them)
They said it's more of a Dark Souls 1 nostalgia trip and a fusion of what made DaS1 and Demon's Souls good.
>>339332991
they're not balanced around summoning,they're not fucking balanced at all.
>>339332991
3 optional areas (double cats, blue smelter, gank squad) are balanced around summoning but give 2 NPC summons for solo players.
The DLC is objectively good and worth going through the main game to play. Anyone who says otherwise is a tryhard meme parroting faggot.
>>339333239
If you like nostalgia trips of 4 years ago, (or even less with BB), that'll last for about 4 hours until you realise they were just lazy asshats sure, but if you want a new challenge, new enemies or anything new for that matter, you'll only find disappointment.
>>339333672
I'm just looking for a good Souls game. Challenging but fair.
Dark Souls 2 failed to deliver on being a good souls game.
inb4 someone goes "it was a good game, just not a good Souls game"
>>339333207
- And nonlinearity. Forgot that.
>>339333934
Die by the sword.
>>339334175
>Die by the sword.
huh?
>>339333934
>Challenging
Then you're goinig to be even more disappointed, only 3 bosses are even slightly hard if you're not handicapping yourself, if anything other thanThe abyss watchers, SOC or Nameless kingkills you more than 3 times you should be ashamed.
It's playable, but that's it.
>>339334287
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=die+by+the+sword
wew
>>339334375Should I be ashamed about dying to pontiff assuming I refused to parry?
>>339334418
>Die by the Sword is a swordfighting Action-adventure video game developed by Treyarch and published by Tantrum Entertainment on February 28, 1998.
how is this related to Souls?
>>339334519
It's a better Souls game than DS3.
>>339334519
It's a better game that the souls series.
>>339334662
Mario Galaxy is a better game than the Souls series
So fucking what?
>>339334517
50/50, him andgundyrcan be challenging, but he isn't really hard.
>>339334824
Mario Galaxy doesn't have dungeon crawling and swordfight, as far as I recall.
So does prepare to die edition have the extra dlc already or does DS1 not have dlc? New to series
>>339335075
>Dark Souls: Prepare to Die Edition is the PC re-release of Dark Souls.
>The game was released on August 24, 2012 and includes the Artorias of the Abyss DLC.
Wow, that was fucking hard.
>>339335234
Here's yer you
>>339335415
I have been tricked; you were only pretending to be a stupid bitch to get me to reply. Even knowing this, I'm doing it again.
>>339335574
>>339335415
>>339335234
>>339335075
You guys are impossible.
>heard the dlcs were good so i wasted more money
>so far ive played a bit of two of them and so far theyre both nothing but skelingtons with big weapons and poise
epic, why would i trust someone saying anything good about ds2
>>339336280
shoulda used cheat engine to get the dlc for free.
>>339336280
silver lining: if you stop now, you won't have to deal with the horribly designed bosses
>>339318334
It's a complete waste of money
>>339336905
>video games are a complete waste of money
wow stop the presses!
>>339337013
(You)
>>339334824
Dumbest post I have seen this week.
>>339337223
(thoust)
>>339318334
Reminder that level design in Dark Souls 1's DLC was dog shit and Dark Souls 2's DLC's level design trumps all over it,
>>339337984
objectively incorrect
>>339338165
From oolacile to manus it's a straight line with two to three alternate branches that go nowhere.
>>339338165
>Big ass empty forest and cave.
I remember absolutely nothing from the DLC outside of the bosses/NPCs, those little humanity guys, and Sif.
>>339338321
>>339338497
i'm not saying that AotA is perfect by any means, but the DSII DLCs' level design REALLY varies in terms of quality. sure, some of the levels are fantastic (ie, sanctum city before you enter the catacomb areas, the majority of eleum loyce) but in my opinion they're dragged down horribly by all the areas that are just hallways full of enemies that all agro on you at once.
>>339337984
>>339325390
>worse than shaded woods or brightstone cove
Yeah nah you're a cunt
>>339340501
>>339340501
Neither of those places are even close to Lost Izalith. They're both obviously finished, have NPCs/quests in them, and they have additional stuff in NG+.
>>339340884
that's arguable
izalith is boring but inoffensive, brightstone cove just sucks. that one part with the massive quicksand pit, magic firing cunts, and basilisks is plain terrible, especially considering there's an important NPC who can get hurt in the crossfire.
>>339341765
So you just suck at the game, and it's the game's fault.
>an important NPC who can get hurt in the crossfire.
You can't kill a basilisk and a necromancer before going into Ornifex's room? Even if she gets hit, she has like 12k life. You'd have to drag everything into her room and let it attack her to get her killed.
>>339342193
I killed Ornifex when I first played DaS2
>>339342193
for the life of me i can't understand why DSII apologists insist the terrible enemy placement is the fault of the player
>>339342497
because they think the legit hate on Dark Souls 2 is a meme
>>339342497
It's a squishy Necro that dies in 3-4 bow shots that stunlock it and a Basilisk that dies in 1-2 hits from virtually every weapon in the game. Even if you want to bitch about them, it takes about 10 minutes to wipe them out permanently.
I guess the devs expected the player to kill things.
>>339342638
>Can't be bothered to kill 2 exceedingly weak enemies every so often.
>Ablooh ablooh ablooh the enemies are placed poorly.
Laughable.
>>339342785
>I guess the devs expected the player to kill things.
you die so much to bullshit in DaS2 that they will eventually be dead
alright nerds I literally just beat DS2 for the first time today, blind playthrough, no DLC
objective verdict is that it was pretty good
>best areas
iron keep
lost bastille
dragon aerie
earthen peak
>worst areas
brightstone cave
no man's wharf
shrine of FUCKING amana
>best bosses
looking glass knight
velstadt
lost sinner
smelter demon
>worst bosses
all the rat bosses
all the shitty gank bosses
covetous demon
used a STR/FTH build with lightning great club, I actually missed a few areas so I played up until the rotten with no effigies, no ring of binding, and no blacksmith kek
>>339343106
SotFS?
>>339343437
I like to play vanilla the first time, then DLC gives me something new for my second playthrough
>>339343501
SotFS changes the base game though.
>>339343754
how so
>>339325718
>>hurrr durr muh feels !!!
this is you right now
>>339343785
Moves item and enemy placement, allows you to get a larger variety of weapons earlier, allows you to skip certain bosses that are meat for Coop like the Gargoyles, etc.
It's generally far better than the vanilla DaS2.
