Where did WoW go wrong?
>>339242492
Cataclysm.
>>339242492
Burning Crusade.
>muh flymounts
>muh arenas
>muh making content obsolete for no reason
>>339242639
This desu. TBC was a disgrace. WotLK was promising at first and still the best expansion but after that it was all downhill.
>>339242639
>muh werl pee vee pee
>muh WAR in WARcraft
kill yourself
2.1
TBC was the final nail in the coffin, but it was no masterpiece before that either with their Everquest philosophy on "progression"
it's pretty obvious cataclysm was a huge fuck up, with amateur-hour devs thinking they could redesign the whole world and do a better job than the original dev team (guess what, they didn't)
wrath and BC both introduced too many conveniences though, that bring us to the mindless state the game is in today
>>339242492
Cataclysm.
Fittingly enough, it was the first Expansion made completely under Activision.
Conversely, I actually fucking love female Draenei. That was the momen when I stopped playing and started fapping.
Many games have porn that is better than the game itself (League of Legends, and more recently: Overwatch)
But I'm still sad it happened to WoW.
Cata. Yep, that about sums it up.
I'm going to be a contrarian fuckass and say it never went right.
>>339242492
They ran out of material to adapt
>>339242639
Don't forget the resilience stat, badge farming and the concept of catch up gear, and those lovely super powerful epics you could buy from smith hauthaa on the isle of quel danas for badges you piled up from running heroic dungeons (but not shadow labs because that one was a toughie!)
>>339242639
Don't forget that in tbc the mount cast time was cut in half and thats where they did the first level reduction for learning how to use the 60% movement speed mounts.
>>339242874
>Conversely, I actually fucking love female Draenei
>>339242492
Wotlk
>bring people and not classes in the raids
>>339242492
When you grew up and started to realize that MMOs cannot fill the void in your life. You naturally will dislike any game that is designed to get you addicted.
>>339242874
>Many games have porn that is better than the game itself
>But I'm still sad it happened to WoW.
In WoW's defense, you'd have to make an impossibly good game to overshadow the fact that it has based blue goats.
>>339242492
I am disappointed that the female worgen looks less beastly than the male worgen. Why do so many games tone down on the uniqueness of female monster characters?
>>339243218
Male trolls.
>>339243234
>Why do so many games tone down on the uniqueness of female monster characters?
people who play female worgen are already cracked enough, don't encourage them
BC was the expansion that made wow from an MMO into a glorified lobby.
The power gap between level 59 and level 61 characters became due to Tier 2 stat leveling greens, endgame content was put int its separate zone with zero interaction with the old world, there was never any reason to leave outlands once you got there. All azeroth content was obsoleted in a single patch, making the world smaller.
All dungeons were linear corridors around a central hub. Literally every single one. Auch, HFC, tempest keep, serpentshrine, everything was just a couple of doors right next to each other.
For fuck's sake there was only one capital city in outlands and it was a """""sanctuary""""".
It wasn't enough to make all old world content obsolete with a single patch, they made the previous patch content obsolete with the subsequent patch with badges and daily grind bullshit.
Flymounts killed the entire concept of world design. You could just skip the world zone content. Having to navigate the geography? Meeting other players? Fighting mobs on your way to the destination? Fuck all that, it's not like this is an MMO or anything.
Or how about arenas. It's such a great idea to introduce deathmatch as the serious pvp mode in a class based game. Oh wait, class based pvp doesn't work with deathmatch because it was fundamentally designed for objective based pvp modes like capture the flag and territory control. What do we do? Let's add resilience! Now every fight is boring because damage mitigation makes healing overpowered.
It's almost as if introducing 2v2, 3v3, 5v5 pvp deathmatch in a game balanced around 10v10 objective based pvp was a retarded idea.
The raids were cool though.
>>339243287
Lucky for u, /b/ is full of em
>>339243076
This had real some quality faces for reaction images. Biggest loss in drive failure.
Not introducing more Gnome qt3.14s
>>339242568
>>339242820
>>339242874
>>339242934
All this. Cata was the death knell for WoW. TBC and WOTLK both introduced a lot of conveniences that made WoW worse, but Cata on the whole was where you could see everything was going to shit.
>>339243218
Post more pandas
>>339243287
>used to dream of female trolls forcing their sweaty pussys on my face
>stuffing my tongue deep in them
>taste like salt and sweat
I like pandas tooam I a degenerate?
>>339242492
> Males are hunched over brutes.
> Females are humans recoloured.
Why is blizzard so lazy?
Content drought mostly. Need to keep that content flowing or people won't subscribe to your shit.
Raidlogging killed wow.
Leveling + 5 man dungeons and world pvp was the golden formula.
After they found a way to make people pay the subscription fee without playing the game, they saw that those world pvp enthusiasts were having too much fun and increasing the server load.
So they killed world pvp with flymounts and introduced pvplogging with arenas.
Fuck molten core patch and upwards.
>>339243062
That was late wrath
>>339243861
I completely agree with this post
alright boys, so state of legion? specifically ret pally? go.
>>339243218
That fucking webm has singlehandedly made me furry. Good fucking job, Ellowas.
>>339243561
Did the artist stop making porn?
>>339243218Female orcs, goblins, trolls and tauren.
Elves, goats and humans are too nice and soft for me, mane.
>>339243097
>bring the player, not the class
>aka just take everything unique from shaman and give it to everyone else while they get nothing in return
>>339243812
There were proper models for every race that got this treatment. Blame the pandering mentality or whatever else.
Damn FemGobs are juicy, maybe Cataclysm wasn't so bad.
Why are the animal races wearing underwear
>>339243885
In wrath they reduced it to level 20. In tbc it was level 30.
>>339244718
what makes you think blizz would let you see their hairy puss?
>>339244718
It's a Christian game ona Christian imageboard, what did you expect full nudity you filthy fucking degenerate?
>>339244997
>16
dumb nigger it was reduced to 30 in wrath and then 20 in cata
>>339245060
If you aren't too terrified of being proven wrong, please google the tbc 2.4.3 patch notes. Thank you.
t. Someone who played the game
>>339244127
Patrician taste famalam.
>>339242492
Mid cata raidfinder killed pve, catch up mechanics in wotlk already threw again a lot of content and it does it to this day, rated bgs came way too late, crossrealm servers removed server communities, pay2win shop rekt the economy even more and gives blizzard active control over it. The "no content" meme would not exist without letting people skip endgame content by giving free raid level gear.
The overall difficulty is way too low. 95% of the game has zero challenge while the only challenging part is a rehash or existing content with more lasters to keep the turbo nerds interested
>>339245189
sheeet idk man, i guess you right.
sorry for being a nigger
>>339245245
this picture is so awful
>>339245245
is that supposed to be another goblin looking down at his slut?
tbc can fucking suck my cock for causing blizzard to think it was okay to throw in so much daily quest hub hellholes and base content around said daily chore hubs
that shit got worse and worse right up until mop
>>339245458
what about the cool train your dragon daily quests?
>>339245291
>crossrealm servers removed server communities
Server communities was already dead when crossrealm came out. It was just a shitty way to disguise low player numbers, instead of merging realms.
>>339245458
>and then we have WoD, where everything is centered around the single spot that is your Garrison
>If players could see each other it would be like a black hole of players all the time
They never learned
>>339242492
Do dwarves have big dick? Look like they do.
>>339245691
dont you just hate those fur fags?
all content of any value or meaning being instanced fucked world of warcraft
>>339245593
It all ties together. The game is so dumbed down that an active guild is not even needed anymore to do and see everything and people tend to play it as singleplayer these days.
My only intention to come back would be pristine servers for legion, for actual server communities and no lfr shit. The game doesn't need it
>>339242639
>Vanilla faggots
take your rose colored goggles off, BC was great, WOTLK was great. Catacylsm was meh, MoP was fun. WoD is the first expansion where I've felt shafted by Blizzard in terms of content and quality.
Vanilla was great in its time, but if you compare it to the rest of wow its has endless tedious bullshit to it, I literally sat through all of molten core and blackwing lair half paying attention and watching movies while we did full clears. Vanilla really wasn't that good.
>>339246008
bullshit
I started playing late wrath, and I've recently started playing Kronos (before overwatch came out, im lvl 43) which is almost 100% blizzlike and no sped up exp, think i have 6-7 days played time, yet I've fucking enjoyed every second of it, besides the recent DDoS shit, which is fixed the server is literally perfectly scripted.
Vanilla literally feels like the Warcraft i've always kind of wanted, explain how someone who started playing the game during the cancer period of it's life is drawn to vanilla more than ever.
Also I'm not a retard who does a garrison once and a shipyard once, LFR halfway and complains there's not content, I've always been around in top 20 world guilds for raiding.
>>339246223
and have like 400+ days on my fucking account*
>>339246223
then you have the special kind of autism to find Vanilla fun still.
>>339246008
I cleared everything up to half naxx including patchwork with only 3 buttons of the same ability. Rank 4, 7 and 11 healing touch. The mechanical part is obviously really simple and not what made it good. More that everything in the world really matters, no daily quests, just farming mats. Good loot was not always connected to item level, like in diablo2.
It's more of a d&d in the warcraft universe
>>339242492
Getting that itch again to play through the Dwarven story solo
Worth it?
>>339243963
No but he stopped making porn of Monara
>>339244127
good taste
>>339242492
Why does the humans have the worst proportions? WTF.
>>339246345
only thing from Vanilla I miss is the community feel of the server. Other than that it's antiquated as fuck.
>>339246487
Such a community could only exist in that antiquated system
>>339246487
It will not come back, because the game is not designed around playing with other people anymore
>>339246565
>>339246683
as long as my few close friends play ill always find a way to have fun with WoW, I have no desire to return to the vanilla times.
if anyone has a spare beta key i am willing to trade a Total War: Warhammer key for one
>>339242492
They they decided that they will only pander to the elitist and focus pretty much exclusively on raid content
>>339246751
Battle.net 2.0 is doing a good job if you do have friends and then it can be fun in the current state of the game, still, I had 3 times more people on my friendslist within one week of privat server than playing retail for several months. Getting to know new people that disappear when leaving the dungeon or area makes it really hard
Not even going to get in to the mess of the endgame, but these are my problems with playing the game nowadays
>The community went to shit and started to reject new players around 2009
>Cataclysm ruined what should have been a timeless story by moving the story forward from the get go, making it seem like YOUR journey started too late.
>The skill progression system became far too stiff because the devs wanted to implement dungeon finders, meaning no hybrid builds could exist
>Class balancing has always been a problem, Paladins/Shamans were a pre-built hybrid class in a game that didn't allow hybrids, only became mainstream useable as late as 2011
>Every class is now available to nearly every race, giving no reasons to play anything other than the race you like
I think my biggest problem with WoW in general is it's a game with a huge amount of worthwhile content that actively tries to deter you from experiencing it in a meaningful way.
Again, I could get in to the problems with the endgame dungeon crawling and monotonous gear grinding, but the problems are well documented. The games problems extend beyond that.
>>339246321
>hurr durr ur autistic
>>339246984
But the reason WoD was so shit was it pandered to casuals and spending majority of the resources on the Garrison, aka normie facebook game for said casuals.
Make up your mind.
I've been in Legion since first wave Alpha invite.
I've done a few of the raid testings, bosses are ok i guess.
Content looks good, world is pretty fucking huge
Professions look interesting again.
Class halls are okay.
Garrison 2.0 is w/e it seems like it doesn't do too much.
Problem is the ability pruning.
>literally cannot log in and play any spec/class without getting fucking angry and annoyed at my dead and empty action bar
Cataclysm. I seriously can't name one good piece of content in Cataclysm.
>>339247278
but is pirate rogue fun
this is important
>>339245691
Sexy
>>339247278
>Professions look interesting again.
What happened to professions?
>>339247351
No, its fucking TERRIBLE
like i legit want to fucking kill myself playing it holy shit.
and DEMON HUNTERS
HOLY SHIT YOUR ROTATION IS LITERALLY 2 BUTTONS AND U CAN SPEC IT TO BE 1 BUTTON AUTO ATTACK SPEC
>>339247047
This.
WoW is the ultimate self-sabotaging game.
>End game is the real content
>Needs 40 retards
>Move it to 25
>Then to 10 for easy and 25 for real
>Then stay to that
>Then 10/25, same difficulty (kinda)
>Then to flex/flex/flex/20 :^)
Just stick to a number ffs.
>>339247427
watch a video about it, too much shit
>>339247509
20 is the real hard mode right now
>>339247309
Firelands was great.
>>339247692
That's why I said flex 3 times
Very easy, easy, normal, hard/very fucking hard (depends on boss).
It's bullshit, at the very least vanilla was 40 or 20 or 10 or 5. So your 40 guy group never gets utterly decimated with people out like 25 man->10man does
>>339246321
I'm not him, but I did a 60 priest on nostalrius and had a ball.
>>339247509
If you followed all big changes, especially to classes, you would notice that blizzard is only changing things for the sake of change, not to improve anything anymore
>>339247737
No.
>>339247818
I'm ok with that system
What I'm not ok with is the upcoming challenge dungeon range of difficulties
>>339247914
That sounds like out of D3 grindaroo mode for >fun
>>339247879
To be honest at the moment I would welcome any change to Hunter because every single spec feels exactly the same
>>339247881
It was. Firelands has been by far one of the best raids post Wrath.
>>339247879
Yeah, that's what I've noticed.
>the whole bdk rework
that's not how it works u maggot
>>339248039
Nope, I'm not a cuck
![latest[7].png](https://i.imgur.com/67nZEc9.png "latest[7].png")
>>339248039
They should all be destroyed
>>339248018
How so? Explain
>>339247351
It's just combat with a pirate skin and slice and dice replaced with an rng simulator.
If you like roll the bones you'll like it if you don't or want to raid it is kill.
>>339247493
Havok hasn't been like that since the end of the alpha and that talent was removed, right now the best performing havok build is animation cancling/movement build which above averagely complex and requires macros to function.
I mean you should probably kill yourself since you have nothing better to do then parrot inaccurate /v/ shit posts instead of actual information.
Wotlk was a mixed bag
It added engaging dps rotations, dual spec and hard mode.
It also trivialised threat, started bring the player not the class, LFD and making content obsolete which came out in the same expansion.
If wotlk didn't have the lich king, it would have been shit. Every other expansion was doomed to fail.
>>339248225
>animation cancling/movement build
wat
>go to the zones from TBC/Wrath/Cata/Mists
>completely barren
Is everything done through a menu now or something? I think I've seen maybe 4 players in Pandaria wilderness. It's very creepy.
>>339248204
I'm not that guy but (I know this will be a shock since the only raid you are allowed to like on /v/ is ulduar and kara) ToT, firelands and BFR are considered some of the best raids in WoW.
>>339248335
>>go to the zones from TBC/
every time I level up a new character, Zangarmarsh is completely packed, and then I never see anyone again
>>339248204
Great atmosphere, non linear for first 4/5 bosses, gradual ramp up in difficulty, excellent final boss. If you disagree chances are you never raided HC when it was actually current.
>>339243218
All of them
>>339248331
All panda lovers have been found to have an average dick size of 2 to 3 inches, biggest one found being 3.1 inches
>>339248323
many abilites have fancy new animations, like ACTUAL animations. Basically the point is to cancel out these animations before they finish while still dealing the full damage of the spell to save .5 seconds or something.
>>339247914
I agree.
>PvE content
>Normal, Heroic, Mythic, Mythic+++ dungeons. All the same content with different numbers
>LFR, Normal, Heroic, Mythic raiding. All the same content with different numbers
>Bigger content droughts mean you grind the same content more times for a longer amount of time
In other news, I played a week of WoD and that soundfile that plays when you build a new garrison building or ship was already making me sick.
>>339248514
Why would you know?
>>339248236
Turning tanks into dps with a lot of hp was a mistake at the same damn moment they introduced dual spec, so every tank and healer can do damage with their off spec, so why change? It makes no sense
>>339248323
Basically Havok has a bunch of abilities that displace your toon but do a bunch of damage/generate rage, using animation canceling macros you can get these bonuses without the dps loss so you can do a lot of damage but it makes your rotation vaguely complex.
This runs counter to the shit poster I was replying too's claim that havok is a 2 button spec (because WoW now can only be easy/appeal to casuals).
>>339248519
>>LFR, Normal, Heroic, Mythic raiding. All the same content with different numbers
LFR -> normal/heroic -> mythic all add new mechanics you knob
>>339248602
I play on rp servers son
>>339248372
>ToT
>BFR
I can agree with these two because they actually have design. Firelands was just a large open plain with a building at the back for Ragnaros
>>339248602
Must be a /vg/ general thing. I can easily imagine them literally comparing their dick sizes and fetishes for a pastime.
>>339248613
And vengeance?
>>339248665
Then they'd have 24 inch futa horsecocks. You're full of shit.
>>339248604
wtf u on?
>>339248039
I'dfuck and impregnate her, then, after the pregnancy, watch our human children feed from her breasts.Then do it all over again.
>>339248684
Firelands was set in the elemental plane, it being an open plain leading up to Ragnaros' spire was suitable
>>339248867
>not feeding from her breasts yourself
pleb
>>339248725
Is a tank spec? Tank specs have never had complex rotations because they focused on threat/cds and then active mitigation.
>>339248867
How do you know they wouldn't be hybrids?
>>339248791
Most 5 mans have tanks a top dps, just to make people play them more often for the finder tool
>>339248934
>That odd feeling when most of the tanks you play with never use their active mitigation
>>339248915
Sure, I'd do that too.
>>339248985
I don't, my dick just likes it that way.
>>339248684
I don't personally have an issue with the deign of firelands it seem to suit it just fine for me.
Also design isn't the main measure that heroic/mythic raiders judge a raid by it's the bosses and firelands doesn't have one bad/filler/lootship boss they're all good in their own way.
post more pandas
>>339249031
>tfw your guilds mythic geared MT sounds surprised when you tell him Death Strike blocks Kilrogg's shred armor
>>339249031
>That odd feeling when the tanks you played with are either overgeared for the content or shit (or both)
Also in Legion tanks are weak as fuck right now without rolling mitigation you get dropped like a stone.
>>339249104
>mythic dungeon geared
you mean
>>339248746
That's how you know how small they're irl, it's hard to explain
>>339242492
they killed off all superior(content/gameplay wise) mmorpgs by introducing and pandering to the casuals beloved pay2win and free2play paradigm
>>339249163
That's how it always fucking starts. Tanks got shit on at the start of every expac until they get gear and decent mitigation trinkets.
>>339249104
That's kind of a weird thing. Do any other bosses do that?
>>339242492
>raid finder
>party finder
>cartoony graphics
>courting soccer mom and casual audience
>Barrens chat
>shitty auction house system
It was shit pretty much from the beginning, then got more shit with the Burning Crusade
>>339249170
nope, mythic HFC. I assume he was joking, but still
>>339249313
not that I know of, but pre-Death Striking is usually a good idea anyway for the shield
>>339249163
Then shouldn't pally be a joke? I found their active mitigation to be spamming shield of the righteous unless they changed it
>>339249328
>>cartoony graphics
But Warcraft 3 had those too
>>339249328
t. LFR shitter
>>339249104
its okay. our pally tank who has been focused on doing damage and ranking for damage since we started mythic has hit a wall with xhul. he can't survive anything without an external even then he dies. meanwhile someones alt comes in and tanks it no problem. he's been quiet lately.
>>339249284
>Implying this is my first beta
This isn't 'we want mana to matter' lip service where in the first tier healers oom on trash then for the rest of the expo they can spam all day
Tanks are actually perceptibly weaker right now there's a million posts and videos complaining about it.
>>339249163
Even if you play perfectly, if your healer is shit you're just gonna die like a fucking bitch. The skill ceiling is so atrociously slow a manlet would bump his head on it.
>>339243076
fuck u grävling
>>339249328
you forgot
>scenario grouping
holy shit what a dumb idea
whats the point of all this zone mapping if i can't free roam and find a group to smash some shit on a whim and run i to other people at the same time
these man babies will never experience trains or kill steals and thats gay
>>339248469
this
>>339249469
LFR was added after I quit retard. I played for 3 months and hit level cap within that time.
FFXI was a much better game
>>339249436
And WC2 didn't. What's your point?
>>339249627
Yeah instanced content is cancer
>>339249745
Oh so you played the easy version of the game
>>339249795
>Trying so hard to be a contrarian hipster on /v/ you unironically try to claim tides of darkness was the last good piece of warcraft content
>>339250104
thats a big panda
>>339249914
No, I'm just claiming it didn't have a cartoony style, which means that WoW didn't necessarily need to uphold a standard.
>>339242492
The LF system.
>>339249898
Yes I'm sure it was easier before loads of soccer moms and other assorted retards latched onto the game.
>>339249914
>saved a thumbnail
>thinks he is the authority on taste
I'm worried about tanks. Threat a non-issue, dps castrated (needed to be reduced but not destroyed), and now you're just a massive hp bar that needs to be topped up all the time. What tank gameplay is left? There's no real maximising your AM any more, can't game vengeance and balance your survival vs dps. Most tank mechanics are basic tank swaps. Tanks have barely any utility (the dragon soul 4p sets were great).
Also, are DH tanks far and above the others on the beta?
>>339248236
>It added engaging dps rotations.
Wotlk was disappointment for affi lock rotations wise
>It also trivialised threat
Tanking changes were stupid move, now there is not even tanking stats.
>>339242639
>BC
>muh making content obsolete for no reason
>>339248418
There is always one max lvl player farming warbeads and that is that outside zangarmarsh.
>>339250250
t. Naxx 25 raider
Cataclysm.
Wrath 3.2 if you really want to be accurate.
>>339250104
Dunno, the lore might say no,but my body, my body is telling me yeah.
>>339242639
>flying mounts
>arenas
Confirmed for lowbie camper who can't win fair fights.
What do you think of Lili?
When they decided to get rid of "bring the player not the class" and started to homogenize everything to play the same and got rid of the "hybrid tax"
>Legion is looking to be even more of a blunder than WoD
It's amazing how Blizzard manages to fuck up every single goddamn time. Not one expansion since WotLK has been decent, not one.
Garbage game made by a garbage developer. Hope Activision dissolves them.
>>339242492
Vanilla
Not going to pretend that shit was just alright. They broke the game's lore in vanilla. Now they have dimension and time travel and keep mixing up their characters or just straight up forgetting them.
Thick Worgen knot
i played WoW since launch at ended after WoTLK.
It wasn't the same with Arthas gone.
Also why bitch at flying mounts, i found them awesome.
They made travel so much easier and faster
>>339250104
Depends how horny Metzen gets while writing
>>339249328
>cartoony graphics
holy shit your reminded me that they actually thought EQ II would be more popular than WoW
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FW1mFvEPNkQ
>>339244129
>>339248236
>>339252912
what is wrong with "bring the player, not the class"? Do you think that people should be arbitrarily punished by Blizzard balancing for the class they chose at character creation, regardless of their actual skill?
Too much instanced PVP. nothing to do, no reason to go out in the world because no outdoor raid bosses, too much instanced everything.
A lot of fun in vanilla was being low level and stumbling across raids marching out to go kill Lethon or Ysondre, fuck, raids don't even fly anywhere anymore, everyone just gets summoned by the warlocks because the warlocks ARE ALWAYS KEKS, that's why they had to do away with soul shards and all of the soul farming because warlocks were tired of feeling like cucks.
>kill world interactions
>phasing, instances, group finder
>make warlocks cucks
>take away shaman identity every xpac
>revamp the paladin class every xpac
>revamp hunter core abilities every xpac
>revamp the blood tree every xpac
>HP pools too high, PVP is too boring
>press 10 buttons for self buffs so you can do 50% more damage instead of just adding more abilities that do damage
just stupid shit after stupid shit that takes fun out of the game in the name of "arena balance".
every single fuck up i can think of was pretty much the result of arena balance.
>>339253292
or maybe I really remembered things wrong
>>339253140
>travel in a world ravaged by war, undead, demons and other hostile creatures should be easy
go play skyrim faggot
>>339243218source me my dude
>>339253454
>Do you think that people should be arbitrarily punished by Blizzard balancing for the class they chose at character creation, regardless of their actual skill?
Yes
This is that rpg about
>>339253454
because it eliminates the idea of a class having its own values, which kills the feeling of the classes
>>339253638
>World is ravaged by monsters
So we fly over them
>Reeeee
So we walk among them and just run faster
>Lol y no fly xddd
>>339253638
>muh ravaged world
stop being this gay, you are just making yourself sound like 10-year old
>>339253758
>so we fly over them
how to ruin a world in 1 easy step
>>339253789
not an argument :^)
>>339252927
Mists of Pandaria was the best expansion.
>>339253897
>m-muh w-werld paaaiiivoiiiipaiiii!!!!!!!!
how to not make an argument in 1 easy step
>>339253137
>>339254025
Casualization ruined Mists
LFR was gay
Dungeons were braindead, more than Wrath
Scenarios were braindead
Casuals cried and ruined dailies
>>339254089
wasnt even talking about wPvP
dont play RPGs if you dont care about world building
>>339254104
>>339254226
Don't play videogames if you care about world building weenie
>>339253137
cute worgen cboi
>>339242492
Cataclysm killing the atmosphere of half the world, new dungeon versions removing the old ones, and no mechanics in place to help people see the story they missed during periods of non-subscription.
>>339254795
>and no mechanics in place to help people see the story they missed during periods of non-subscription.
but /v/ told me catch up mechanics are bad
Past:
>who cares about the lore just give us raids and content
Now:
>which timeline and dimension are we talking about again?
Blizzard just listened to the fans
>>339243750
Holy mackerel Mozgus from BerserkSeriously though I hate pics like these where the ugly ass guy take up like 80% of the image, what's the point
>>339248372
Sure would be nice if people could see the beyind walking in as an übermensch and shit up solo.
>>339245341
t.Ireland
>>339253739
The issue there is in theory you're right in practice we just end up with shit like
Only warrior tanks matter
Pallies can only heal
Shamans are literally just manatide (same with shadow priests)
Warlocks are just stones summons and CoE
Basically everyone just gets to be mages and rogues support staff.
I'd rather play a class with 3 viable specs then a class with one viable spec for one roll or that's literally only in the raid for a single spell.
>>339243218
Goblins and Gnomes
>futafags ruining another thread AGAIN
>>339242639
Agree. Flying Mounts destroys every fun becoming from exploring areas. I throwing out every MMO with them, even Final Fantasy XIV goes into trash.
It was a downward spiral starting with TBC but wasn't really officially "bad" until Cata.
TBC introduced the now infamous flying mounts and catchup mechanics with badges aswell as (very poorly) introduced arenas and resilience which made PvP not only a chore but a fucking boring dueling chore. But for all its faults its still the best expansion WoW ever had and was easily more difficult than most of Vanilla in terms of PvE. TBC also kinda introduced Dungeon Finder but ill give it a pass since it wasn't the community killing abomination it became later.
Wrath obviously made content way more accessible(see:easy) and later introduced the mechanic of having different versions of the same raid for casuals and hardcore raiders. PvP also somehow got worse in Wrath with the introduction of EMFH which made it so if you weren't a human you were at an extreme disadvantage for the entire expansion(and every expansion to come, seriously how the fuck have they not removed EMFH?) Blizzard also "improved" upon TBCs catchup mechanics by making it so you could easily gear up to current raid content in dungeons, making all previous raid content completely irrelevant after the next content patch, removing any form of different tiers of raiders, everyone was on the same tier at all times and basically removed content from the game. Also its the 1st time everyone was stuck with the same exact fucking raid for nearly a year with ICC, another trend that would plague WoW to this very day. And ofc you have the new and "improved" Dungeon Finder which groups you will people from different servers you dont have to ever talk to and instantly teleports you to the dungeon, you get your daily heroic out of the way in a matter of 20 minutes because fuck adventure and the world.
Then ofc came Cata, where player convenience triumphed. Flying mounts everywhere, a worse version of Wintergrasp, boring raids, an entire raid tier consisting of a whole 7 bosses.
>>339255326
>not liking a picture made by an artist with no concept of anatomy meant to appeal to the second most cancerous memefetish after thiccfags means you're Irish
top o' the marnin sonny
>>339242703
He said muh flymounts, arenas and obsolete content you braindead mouth breather
kill yourself
>>339243218
Fem taurens without a doubt. Just thinking about them makes my dick hard.
>>339255708
I'll admit you're making me overanalyze the image and I can see how fucked up the anatomy is but
>shortstack
>cancerous
Please reconsider.
>>339243218
>look ma i posted it again
>>339246418
Because they wuz giants 'n' sheiit before da old ones kept them down with da curse of Flesh.
>>339256692
Knowing Metzen that's probably canon.
>>339247914
If not the for modifiers I'd agree that mythic+/challenge dungeon is annoying but having those like the tank generates less threat, mobs buff each other on death is its only saving grace.
>>339258185
It actually is. http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Human
>>339242874
>>339243076
>>339242874
>>339261109
Still would fugg
>>339243218
I usually hate chubby shit, but there is something about the pandaren females that get me.
>>339261109
Unnng... THICKER
>>339242492
When AV was nerfed so hard that everything about it became redundant and it turned into a 6 minute rush.
>>339242492
Vanilla
>>339261206
>>339261295
>>339261332
>Docked tail
dropped
>>339260921
>less curvy thighs
>chest doesn't puff out nearly as much
>facial structure completely fucked
New models are a disaster
>>339243076
MONARA IS NOT A SLUT! RREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I'd sub if Blizzard inserted more shortstack content
>>339248039
maybe. pandarens made me love bigger asses
>>339261439
You couldn't tell from the shitty anatomy?
>facial structure completely fucked
The new models are on the left btw.
>>339242492
> tfw female worgen starts to make my dick tingle
Fuck you, Blizzard.
>>339261398
>"people keep quitting due to huge class/spec overhauls"
>"let's do huge class/spec overhauls for legion"
are blizzard developers genuinely retarded?
I want vanilla legacy servers to come out for people to see that vanilla is outdated af and that late vanilla/tbc was when the game actually became good.
>>339261439
>blizzard changed the winters veil sets to not be skimpy
>Sylvaanas is now shariah compliant
>Only DH get skimpy armor. Leather armor literally changes when worn by a DH so only they get the good stuff.
>blizzard is removing Overwatch smut and apparently some Warcraft smut too
>Every single female remodel got less bust, in most cases less curvy in general.
Warcraft is dead. The SJW are gaining more and more power. Soon we'll have a goblin model update and they'll be flat as pancackes and not a single curve.
>>339253697
Elliwas
>>339261871
Considering WoD left most classes completely fucked (see: warlock), not this time.
>>339261773
Much better, thank you.
>>339262102
They are making it worse in Legion.
Legion is going to flop harder than WoD. Especially in the PvP department as each new bit of PvP information fucks it even harder.
>Only new pvp content is daily world pvp stuff
>yay! the pvpers said
>Oh, new pvp talents dont work in wPvP and gear doesnt scale at all
>FUCK said the pvpers
>PvPers can get gear of the same ilvl as mythic raiding
>wait nevermind, mythic is better again because mythic raiders were worried they'd need to PvP
>pvp talents in no way makes up for the massive pruning
>half the classes are fucked beyond belief, and keep getting nerfed while those who are doing well keep getting buffed
>>339242773
When WoW was released it was the final nail in the coffin, everything after it's 1st day of release was dead.
>>339261947
What is it about short green women that torments my dick so?
>>339254320
funny image but unless they were of the homo variety, why the hell would a guy want to roleplay someone with a vagina? even if they "knew enough about vaginas or women", they'd never know how it would feel thus defeating the point.
It was the patch they added LFD and started pandering to casuals. It could be argued that WoW has always been casual but you can pinpoint it's downward to turn to the point when they started "streamlining" things.
>>339263581
>only gay people would want a vagina
I bet you're one of those people that think futa is gay too.
>>339264071
nope im into futa and i think it defaults makes you gay is a retarded argument, but im sayin its uncommon as fuck for a hetro guy to roleplay as a fem char with a vagina
>>339255708
>thiccfags
>cancerous
>when there are serious pedophiles, 2dfags, scatfags, footfags, furries, and people who like literally obese women
You couldn't be more of a faggot
>>339264463
>pedophiles, 2dfags, scatfags, footfags, furries, and people who like literally obese wome
I am all of these lol
>>339242492
Argent tournament
