>play game in dead series
>you've finished nearly all of them
>except this one
>tfw you know full-well that when you finish it all you can look forward to is the soul-crushing emptiness of knowing there is nothing left for the franchise
Finally playing Prime 3 and blasted through most of the game today, fearing this more than anything since I'm about to get to phaaze.
>>339224191
for a second I thought that was a black girl ass with a green thong
Sadly Prime 3's final boss is pretty piss poor. Phaaze is fucking awesome though.
>dead franchise
Just because they're not milking the fuck out of it by pumping out games just for the fuck of it doesn't make it dead, moron.
>>339225157
Dead as in no more quality content
You'd have to be pretty gullible to think Metroid has a future considering the hands it's in
>>339225157
Dead as in no more games people are asking for.
>>339224191
>dead series
Here we go
>>339224191
i
know
this
pain
>>339224191
Try looking into fangames, maybe?
I hear some of them are pretty good, though I've only played Minitroid. It's very short, but I had a good time with it.
>>339226053
This is honestly why I don't wanna play Half Life. I'm worried I'll like it so much that the cliffhanger will physically kill me
>>339226165
Not the guy you replying to, but you should still play it.
The game isn't perfect, but it has the perfect formula of feeling like you are exploring, outwitting a very powerful oppressive regime, and barely surviving. It is linear, but the first play through will not feel like that at all. Each area you go into you feel clever and resourceful for making it through.
I don't know it is hard to describe but it's a game that will make you feel great when you play it.
>>339224191
Know that feel, OP, I have been starved of Metroid content for almost a decade, it's literally eating me up inside that Nintendo is too fucking stupid and stubborn to give half a shit about Metroid anymore.
>>339224191
>Metroid prime
>Good
This meme needs to die. Its a mediocore first person shooter that requires you to HOLD DOWN A FUCKING BUTTON TO AIM FREELY.
>>339226165
l have all the half life games because of sales but l cant really play more than 30 minutes because l get nauseous. Am l the only one?
>>339226165
It is legitimately not that great of a game. It is an enjoyable fps with a great physics engine for its time, but it's totally overhyped. We will never get another Half-Life game so you might as well play what already exists and have fun with it.
>>339226524
>Metroid Prime
>Good
>This meme needs to die.
This meme needs to die. Prime is great. You suck.
>>339224191
Quick spoiler: get all the pickups you can before you get there. Make sure you check that weird portal area, too.Once you're on the final plan it, your ship will not let you get back in
Prime 3 was my first Metroid
>>339226524
Git gud holy shit. Prime offers some of the best gunplay in any fps I've ever played.
>>339226412
What kinda fag are you anon? Did you just forget Federation force is gonna come out?
>>339226524
Wii Remote, dumbass
>le wagglan meme
Fuck off
>>339225869
I just hope Nintendo goes bankrupt and sells Metroid to a competent editor at this point. Jesus
>>339226524
Go play the trilogy versions if that seriously bothers you more than anything.
The controls are like that because the Gamecube's C-stick is garbage for standard FPS controls
>>339226643
>>339226724
>>339226883
There isnt anything hard about this game its babys first fucking fps shooter
The game is boring as aids and you shoukd off yourselves for supporting a non 2d metroid which takes infinitely more skill.
>>339227012
>seinfeld is unfunny
>>339224816
Huh, I thought I was the only one that thought this too.
>>339225869
Yeah, this sounds right. I always think it's silly that people think the series will die and there won't be any more, or that there won't be any for like, 8 years or some shit.
I'm positive we'll get a Metroid on the NX. I'm also pretty sure no one at Nintendo knows how to make a game like Metroid anymore so it will probably fuck up on some incredibly basic level.
I'm going to guess the absolute best we could get out of Nintendo at this point is a Zero Mission rehash that doesn't really do anything original but also doesn't try and fuck up the formula with something stupid, like focusing on the plot or just making it a series of ultra linear hallways.
>>339224191
Well there's always Federat...bwahahahhahhahhah
>>339227012
Your choice of video games is worse than your command of the English language.
>>339226724
>>339226724
>Git gud holy shit. Prime offers some of the best gunplay in any fps I've ever played.
Son
>>339227319
I think they lost track of how to make it good because they've been trying to make it sell in Japan, which it basically never has if I remember correctly.
Thing is Metroid is about isolation and nonlinearity. It's really hard to market a game where you feel like a rat in a maze, so they just stopped trying.
Now Samus is being built as a dainty waifu outside of Prime's continuity and Prime after the first one kept adding more allied NPCs and other shit that goes against Metroid's core. The fact that the next game is a co-op romp along the lines of Triforce Heroes effectively proves that they completely forgot why Metroid was ever good.
I pray that they'll find out again one day, but the most realistically optimistic thing I can say is that Fed Force might be good for none of the reasons past Metroid games were.
>>339227012
>2d metroid which takes infinitely more skill.
>The games where you nearly always end up with a beam that covers at least half the screen and incapacitates everything non-boss enemy in a few shots.
Super Metroid is my favorite game ever and I'm seriously confused when people try to praise the combat aspects of the 2D games.
>>339224971
Such a great leadup to such a great disappointment.
>>339227967
I feel like Metroid could sell well if they bothered to pay attention to what people respond to. Just make a faster paced, more action packed Prime game while still keeping the classic Metroid world design, then advertise it a lot. I'm sure that could bring in both hardcore fans and casual gamers.
But I don't think Nintendo knows how to reach people, so instead they just decided to make it for kids because I guess they think all gamers are kids.
I hope since Miitomo is failing Sakamoto and his team can return to Metroid and make a 2.5D sequel to Metroid: Fusion for the NX handheld.
>>339229004
Nah keep Sakamoto the FUCK away from Metroid.
>>339229004
>he wants Other M 2
>>339229125
If he's in charge of it, no bodies keeping him away from anything. Plus, I can give him one more chance as long as the game is a traditional side scroller and not another "new idea".
>>339229214
See>>339229258
Now shut the fuck up.
>>339229125
The sad thing is that he is, at least according to everything we've heard from Nintendo, still in charge of the franchise. So either we got more Sakamoto Metroid, or we get no Metroid (not including Prime, obviously, he doesn't have much to do with that)
Maybe if this weren't a Japanese company obsessed with seniority and all that kinds of shit he'd have gotten replaced by someone else, but since it's Nintendo, best case would just be him acting as a producer and having other people around to shoot down his dumber ideas while someone else directs and writes the thing.
>He's still ignoring that Fedforce is lore fodder for a bigger game
>>339229431
I'm definitely fine with that. His writing is shit and I want a more opened experience with Metroid like the classic Metroid games and not this action drama focused garbage.
>>339226725
>Federation Force
>A Metroid game
>>339229125
>>339229258
>>339229431
Sakamoto was always in charge of the franchise and the reason it is what it is
Just because of Other M doesn't suddenly mean he lost credibility for everything else he made
God you people are fucking idiots
>>339229569
If the Sylux game is actually good I will give away a download code of prime trilogy on /v/
> People not realizing that the only reason we haven't gotten a new 2D Metroid is because there aren't any more Alien movies for Sakamoto to rip off.
>>339229695
Why you commenting on me >>339229258, I already know the man is in charge I was just explaining to the other guy that we really don't have a say on the matter of who makes a mainline Metroid game because that has always been and will always be Sakamoto's domain. Plus unlike some of these other guys I'm giving him another chance because of his success with the Metroid series in the past and other series that he has worked on. I still believe the man can make a good side scroller Metroid game, he just sucks at making a 3D one.
There any way to emulate Hunters with less shitty controls?
>>339229695
And just because he worked on a good game two decades ago means he's still just as good as he was back then. Other M was such a disaster I think it's fair to question his judgment.
Maybe he can still make a good game, but I think he has plainly proven he cannot if he isn't kept in check by other people.
>>339230210
>tfw team ninja, who people shit on for other m, tried to talk him down from some poor gameplay decisions but he had the final say
>>339230362
It's really remarkable how many downright strange decisions he made on that game. Everything from "it has to use an NES style control scheme, because, you know, Metroid was on the NES once" to "Samus shouldn't have her suit change and become purple. That looks too silly in cut scenes, just have her glow instead."
Not to mention he's had two games now, Fusion and Other M, where he seems to have shown his vision for the future of Metroid is linear and story based, practically the exact polar opposite of what the series originally stood for.
>>339230930
Fusion has some real goodness to it despite having narrative and pseudo-linearity. The narrative itself was actually good too even though it was a little out of place. Other M was just bad.
>>339230210
Different anon, I still will give him another chance since unlike George Lucas, Sakamoto only made one bad Metroid game compared to Lucas's three bad Star War movies.
>>339230095
>not ripping off prometheus
>Samus fighting ancient alien gods that look like kratos
>>339230095
Metroids vs Whatever fuck Predators would be in Metroid.
>>339230930
The fact that Other M uses a D-pad is ample proof to me that Sakamoto is a god damn quack.
It's like he never played a 3D game in his life, or even heard of one. the N64 invented an analog stick for the sole purpose of control in 3D space and he just decides "fuck that shit".
It's the most basic thing. It amazes me that anyone in his position, let alone the man behind Super Metroid, would do something so astronomically dumb.
>>339230095
Mortal Kombat guest character when?
>>339224971
>>339228297
The Scan Visor throwing up its hands and going "I dunno. I dunno what the fuck is going on anymore." is a great moment. Even the Chozo tech has no clue what to make of Phaaze.
>>339231928
Samus in mortal kombat fucking when?
>>339231706
I wouldn't even be surprised if Metroid 5 is about this. Metroid: Fusion had Samus go AWOL against the GF, in her ship she has animals that know the shinespark, kick climb and know how to pilot ships. These animals also seem to know how to navigate since they left the Chozo planet Zebes, and came to the Chozo planet SR-388. They could lead Samus to another Chozo planet but an ancient one with machines the Chozo created in ancient times that could destroy all life in the galaxy xince this is when the Chozo were war-like with unmatched technology. The GF wanted to use this weapon so they reversed engineer Chozo tech to make an advance AI but it goes rouge and take over these machines that are scattered on different planets in the galaxy. Samus now must figure out how to save the galaxy before all species are wiped out.
>>339232142
Honestly the Smash cast in a traditional fighting game could be pretty fucking good. Just give us Nintendo vs. Capcom/some other company and we could have something going.
Probably not gonna happen, but I'm fine with that.
>>339231093
Other M and Fusion literally have the same story.
>Distress call from Federation space station researching alien lifeforms
>Space station replicates different biomes for researching lifeforms in their natural habitats
>Samus takes orders from Adam during her investigation
>Monologues about her past the whole time
>A rogue entity roams the station actively sabotaging your interests (SA-X in Fusion, Deleter in Other M)
>Ridley is cloned, forcing Samus to face him again (by X Parasites in Fusion, Federation in Other M)
>Federation is secretly breeding Metroids
>Section of the station containing the Metroids is ejected into space and explodes
>Sector 3 is the hot lava zone in both fucking games
It's the same story, copied and pasted with some minor differences. The thing is, Fusion did it better because Samus was ALONE on the station, Adam wasn't physically present to trigger her latent daddy issues, and she didn't freak out when Ridley appeared.
More importantly, by making the Federation experiment with breeding Metroids chronologically before Fusion, it really undermines the dramatic plot twist in the last third of the game.
Other M didn't just suck, it tainted Fusion, too.
>>339225869
>considering the hands it's in
elaborate
>>339224191
I haven't played Prime 3 yet for that same reason
Finished 2 in 2006
>>339232627
Canadians?
>>339229125
>>339229214
Look, Other M was garbage, but you don't give up on somebody who's succeeded in the past because of one failure.
If Sakamoto can consistently release a ZM/Fusion caliber game again, that would be great. They should give him something very easy to do, like a Metroid 2 remake.
>>339232627
1. possibility of Sakamoto getting it again
read the thread to see why this is bad
2. Tanabe
all we have to look forward to are two lorefodder games, Fed Force and whatever Sylux is gonna be in
3. literally anyone else at nintendo
Do you actually expect anybody big-wigs there to know how to make a good metroid game? if you do please explain because Sakamoto and Tanabe are the only ones with experience and they blew it/are bombing it respectively
The best bet is tossing it off to another dev without having Sakamoto's autism taint it, and even then the only good games to hit what made metroid good in recent years are indie devs, unless someone would like to inform me otherwise.
>>339232547
This. I'm actually surprised more people don't point this out.
>>339233045
For people looking for a good Metroid-style game, Another Metroid 2 Remake is very authentic and polished, but it's not finished just yet. The new additions flesh out SR388 very nicely, and the difficulty is challenging on hard mode. Latest status report says that the Queen Metroid boss is in development, so we could conceivably see the game completed by the end of the year.
>>339233045
>2. Tanabe
>all we have to look forward to are two lorefodder games, Fed Force and whatever Sylux is gonna be in
I think you might be confused here. The game Sylux is going to be in is Prime 4. That's not "lore fodder", that's straight up the continuation of the series.
>>339224816
>>339227201
You people think too much with your dicks. Get a hold of your libido and stop being such filthy fucking degenerates.
>>339233531
>The game Sylux is going to be in is Prime 4. That's not "lore fodder", that's straight up the continuation of the series.
Source on this one? All we know is that Sylux stars in the next prime game. For all we know it could be Hunters 2
>>339233470
Ghost Song is another game to look out for, can't wait.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eujm3ZQWjdk
>>339229569
>He's buying into Tanabe's bullshit
Eat shit anon. He's just doing damage control.
TANABE WAS MERELY PERFORMING DAMAGE CONTROL YOU GUYS. PRIME 4 IS NOT EVEN REMOTELY CONFIRMED. ALL WE KNOW IS THAT IF AND WHEN IT HAPPENS, IT'LLL HAVE SYLUX.
BIG FUCKING WHOOP. WE'VE KNOWN THAT SINCE FUCKING 2007 WHEN PRIME 3 DROPPED
>>339233594
Alright I had to double check and I guess I was wrong in that he never said it was specifically Prime 4, but he also never implied it would be a spinoff or anything like that, and given it's supposed to be a direct follow up to 3 featuring Samus, I just assumed.
>>339233653
Shadow Complex Remastered is a pretty good Metroid-style game. The story's a little hammy, but the gameplay's pretty solid and there are plenty of sequence breaking opportunities.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75zF8Ik-OqI
>>339232963
I agree with this.
>>339233045
>Tanabe
You mean the man who removed sequence breaks from Prime 1, gave beams ammo in Prime 2, turned Metroid into a FPS space opera with both Prime: Hunters & 3 along with giving us a shitty coop game. Jumping on to other series Tanabe also gave us Sticker Star, Zip Lash and now he is giving us Color Splash. I will take Sakamoto over Tanabe any day.
>>339234489
>turned Metroid into a FPS space opera with both Prime: Hunters & 3
I don't think you know what a space opera is. I see your point otherwise.
>>339234489
>removed sequence breaks from Prime 1,
This is defensible, I can see the position of wanting to release a glitch free game, even if I personally wish they'd kept the sequence breaking in.
>gave beams ammo in Prime 2, turned Metroid into a FPS space opera with both Prime: Hunters & 3
These aren't that bad. Honestly, Tanabe isn't bad at al-
>also gave us Sticker Star, Zip Lash and now he is giving us Color Splash.
dear sweet god, he's a monster.
>>339234489
>Tanabe also gave us Sticker Star, Zip Lash and now he is giving us Color Splash.
Christ, I had no idea.
So basically Metroid is fucked as long as Nintendo has it
>>339234702
I know space opera is, I'm a huge Halo fan. When I play Metroid I'm not here to talk to Samus stupid bounty hunter friends, I'm here to explore an alien world collecting upgrades and defeating bosses ALONE. Prime 3 & Hunters had me doing all of this planet hopping nonsense over what I usually do in Metroid games.
>>339234929
I suppose when I think space opera I think of complex interwoven plots with a large cast of well rounded characters, which Corruption and Hunters do not have. Either way I see what you mean about isolation.
>>339229258
Gunpei Yokoi was the reason Metroid was great. Sakamoto wrote and directed Fusion, which was the beginning of the end due to it's severe restrictions on movement and greater emphasis on plot via droning narrative, as well as Zero Mission, which despite having a decent footing for most of the game, tacked on that horrendous stealth section at the end. ANytime he's been in direct control of a Metroid game it's been a departure from the rest of the good games. Reminder that Yokoi also was in charge of the team who made Super. Metroid, at least 2D died with him.
>>339234489
I don't get how anyone can say Tanabe is worse than Sakamoto. Sakamoto seemed to be much more directly responsible for the faults of Other M. Tanabe is just a producer, it's hard to say how much of those games he's responsible for.
>>339235050
>Gunpei Yokoi
While he led the team, the series has always been a team effort. Sakamoto was the one who made the map for the original game, it made sense that this map would be expanded upon that map in Super Metroid.
>>339235050
Fusion and Zero Mission were really good, please don't rewrite history.
>Horrendous stealth section
It was fine and the climax of the game after was great.
>>339235050
I honestly think some of the blame for Other M is NoA's fault. Many of the things that applies to them now applied to them in 2010 too.
Mainly using the night janitor to voice Samus.
>>339235282
I guess Sticker Star, Zip Lash, Color Splash, and Federation Force don't mean anything. By the way he made the bad decisions in these games.
Compare this to Sakamoto's ONE game.
>>339235050
I thought the stealth was a great way to accentuate the power trip immediately afterward.
>>339235643
>Mainly using the night janitor to voice Samus.
Christ, Samus in Other M has no goddamn emotion, is there any footage of the Japanese version to at least see if NoJ did it better?
I'm surprised they didn't just get the chick that did her voice for the Prime games, that was honestly a great voice for her. Even her Smash VA was better.
>>339235813
Jennifer hale was samus in the prime games
>>339235813
>I thought the stealth was a great way to accentuate the power trip immediately afterward.
Exactly. It's called pacing.
>>339235548
Fusion had great bosses, credit where credit is due. But the environments weren't unique or interesting nor was the needless restrictions on where you could go a good design decision considering the rest of the series. The narrative segments were also just pretty stupid and unimaginative. The government is evil, what an thoughtful and compelling plot. And I can't understand how people can like the stealth section, it really baffles me. A totally unwarranted cap to an otherwise good game that had shit map design, boring enemies with lazy pathing, the "traps" in the temple were just so shit why did they even bother, and it also has the two worst bosses in the entire series, and I would nominate Mecha Ridley as easily the shittiest one in all Metroid. It was a lazy, thoughtless annoyance.
>>339235661
Sakamoto may have only one bad game under his belt, but it was so truly atrocious that I don't think it can be understated. It is quite possibly the worst thing Nintendo has put their name on in decades. What's more, you can pretty directly link the bad ideas in it to him and no one else.
I'm not saying Tanabe is a great producer, or even a good one, but he produces a fuck load of games, and wouldn't you know it, when he's a producer for a game with a good team behind it, it usually turns out well, and when it's a shit team, it turns out shit. I don't think you can say definitively that he's the one and only reason for those things being so bad.
>>339235813
>is there any footage of the Japanese version to at least see if NoJ did it better?
Nope, it's about the same.
>>339235961
This
Miyamoto is the bigger cause of Sticker Star's shit and apparently the sticker system was there from nearly the start. Tanabe, at worst, was the guy that okayed something as dumb as Federation Force
>>339235923
>The narrative segments were also just pretty stupid and unimaginative. The government is evil, what an thoughtful and compelling plot
Within the context of the series it was pretty interesting. Samus, who has worked alongside and for the federation, now actively works against them. Not only that, the metroid vaccine that saved her life was from the breeding program they themselves developed. It made for interesting scenes like when SA-X prioritizes the Omega Metroid over Samus in the game's finale. It's nothing extraordinary but it works.
>And I can't understand how people can like the stealth section
Because of the section that comes right after it.
>>339235961
1. So what, Sakamoto was thrown out of his element since he is used to making side scrolling games, if he makes another side scroller it could be good.
2. The problem was it wasn't the team, Tanabe wanted the shitty battle mechanics for Sticker Star decided to keep that battle system for Color Splash and made all of the bad decisions for Federation Force. Sakamoto from all of his time as a Director and Producer has only had ONE bad game.
>>339232547
I'm just wondering how they got away with it, story wise.
How the fuck did they get me so hyped with the announcement trailer when they uttered the words "Any objections, Lady?" and then basically retell Fusion?
I feel like Nintendo in general seems kind of bleak at the moment.
If you'd asked me only a couple years ago I'd say I had high hopes for what Nintendo will bring in the future. But after the last few years I can see the future, and it's nothing but mediocre, safe semi-rehashes. Shit like Luigi's Mansion 2, which is kind of OK but not great and didn't really get the appeal of the original but isn't completely offensive either. Just bland and boring.
That's what I see for Nintendo in future. Bland and boring, with a few offensively bad releases as garnish.
>>339236292
>thrown out of his element
There's literally nothing Other M does from a gameplay perspective that was a good decision. It's all piss poor, clashing ideas.
The only compliment I can give is his seamless a lot of the transitions between gameplay and cut scenes are, which has little to do with gameplay anyway.
>>339236750
Technically he was thrown out of his element. Question, before Other M has Sakamoto ever and I mean EVER directed 3D Metroid game? Has his team ever worked on a 3D Metroid game?
>>339236292
>1. So what, Sakamoto was thrown out of his element
You cannot use that excuse to brush off everything. The plot and writing and overall direction has nothing to do with the dimensions. He set out to make a Metroid game where you walk through straight hallways and watch cutscenes, that has nothing to do with what element he's in and everything to do with bad directing. And even with little experience in 3D, he should have been able to tell the control scheme was busted.
>2. The problem was it wasn't the team
Again, I'm not going to say Tanabe is innocent. He's made dumb decisions, but I have yet to see anything quite as incriminating towards him as Other M and the interviews surrounding it. Usually when it comes to the games he produces, the individual teams seem to have more control, and make their own share of bad decisions.
>>339236936
No.
>>339236292
If we was "forced" to make a 3D game due to Nintendo can we actually say Prime did kill the series?
>>339236936
Let me answer your question with a question: What does the game being 3D have to do with the dumbass plot, and the idea to make the game story focused when the series was previously not about that kind of thing?
>>339236936
If he was so fucking out of his element why didn't he just have the people who made the 3 most successful Metroid games of all time do it instead? This argument is fucking retarded, Miyamoto and crew were totally out of their element when they transition from 2D to 3D Mario and Zelda but Mario64 and OoT are fucking amazing. Sakamoto doesn't get this pathetic excuse to hide behind.
>>339237089
There you go, in interviews Sakamoto constantly talked about him and his team not having any experience developing a 3d game. Sakamoto also stated that since the game WASN'T a side scroller he would be LESS restricted to finally give us HIS vision. So if he and his team make a side scroller Sakamoto is forced to make the game all about the gameplay and make it more opened like the classic Metroid games.
>>339224191
100% the games on the hardest difficulties, and then come back and complain.
Game series do not need to carry on perpetually.
It's unlikely that we'll never get another Metroid game anyway, but even if we didn't there's quite a few already.
>>339237306
>>339237413
I already answer your questions here.>>339237434
Sorry about the repeats I keep fucking up.
>>339237434
Your logic still isn't holding up. Out of his element or not, he had an awful idea on his hands. I don't think his awful idea would have been any better executed if it were 2D. The only thing that might be better is the control scheme, and that's only because he was stubborn and refused to change it after the switch to 3D.
>>339235813
>>339235913
But all of it feels pretty tacked on. It's a somewhat dull stealth section followed by a very brief part destroying everything and a boss. It's totally disconnected from everything before it and isn't interesting enough to justify its inclusion. It's pretty half-baked.
>>339235813
>>339236029
I recall some interview somewhere with the voice actress, she was responding to a question about the criticism of her performance in Other M, and she said that Sakamoto had been there for the recording (or was at least listening in, I don't remember) and had her do a lot of multiple takes because often her earlier attempts were not monotone enough.
There are certainly bad VAs out there, but like half of the time it's honestly the voice director not knowing what the fuck they're doing. People rarely think about this so VAs always get criticized while the people telling the VAs what to do never get any flak.
>>339237853
I think what he means is if Sakamoto made a 2D game he would force himself to make a more traditional game and not go crazy on his shitty story & other poor ideas.
Is Kirby the last healthy Nintendo franchise left?
>>339238593
Yup, this is exactly what I'm saying.
>>339227012
>2D metroid which takes infinitely more skill
>most enemies get one-shotted
>halfway through the game you get gigantic-ass beams making it impossible to miss
>not like platforming is hard either
Son, this has got to be bait.
>>339238593
I don't really see why that would be assumed. He was already moving in this direction with Fusion. If he could have made Other M 2D like he wanted, it probably would have been a worse, even more linear Fusion with Other M's plot.
>>339238690
Pikmin is good I guess, they're making a fourth one after all & 3 was definitely not bad (though it's not as good as the other 2 in my opinion).
>>339239267
>If he could have made Other M 2D like he wanted, it probably would have been a worse
I say no, with Other M he was only able to make cinematic cutscenes because of D-Rockets and the main reason the game was so linear was because Team Ninja is used to making linear games. If he didn't have Team Ninja or D-Rocket his vision would have been restricted.
>>339239273
Pikmin hasn't had a bad game, but it's also only had three games and only one from modern Nintendo.
We'll have to wait and see. I hope Pikmin 4 is good, it's my favourite series. But if I have to buy a fucking NX for it I'll be pissed.
>>339238586
I remember this too. Something about her saying it was really hard to pull off what Sakamoto wanted.
So there you go. He hired a professional (?) voice actress to sound as bland and monotone as possible. Wasn't her fault, it was Sakamoto's. He has this idea that a socially-awkward person (something he perceives Samus to be) always speaks in monotone.
>>339239672
Not trying to come to Sakamoto's defense but Samus is supposed to be stoic.
>>339239672
>Samus is socially awkward
I never got this interpretation. We never see any of her social life, and the small snippets we have are her in slut clothes. Socially awkward people generally don't go to bars to find sex.
>>339239795
In your headcanon she goes to bars finding sex.
>>339239780
>>339239795
Same person here, but I agree, Samus should be stoic, not socially-awkward. But I remember Sakamoto saying that he sees Samus as a socially-awkward type, which doesn't make sense to me.
>>339239886
What other purpose does an outfit consisting of short shorts and a bra have in a bar?
Did they have the AC too high or something? She was obviously after cock. Or maybe even gash, who knows.
>>339239963
>What other purpose does an outfit consisting of short shorts and a bra have in a bar?
Ok seriously is this fucking GF_Sybb?
>>339239963
Or she's just relaxing at a bar having a drink.
>>339240072
Why would she be showing off so much skin? Is Samus secretly Quiet?
>nintendo goes mobile
>metroid reduced to flappy bird clone where you screw attack in the air
>>339240138
Because she wants to. What is wrong with you, why do you assume so much from so little.
>>339239461
Well, I guess at the end of the day it's all hypotheticals. I'm still unsure it would have been on par with previous 2D, but I guess there's not much way it could have gone worse than what we wound up with.
>>339240197
Are you really that naive? There's two reasons to wear skimpy clothing. 1. You're going for a swim, 2. You want sex
Literally it. There is no reason to show off your body unless you're looking for sex.
>>339239961
It kind of does, she was raised by bird people for half her life so when she finally lived with her own species she didn't understand how relax around humans. When she became an adult she spent most of her time going on missions alone and barely talking to people so stoic and socially-awkward would somewhat make some sense.
>>339239963
Samus is a virgin; she's too socially awkward to have sex.
>>339240336
Boom
>>339240269
It's not really that skimpy. It's a top and shorts with some boots. I kinda get the feeling you've never been out with a woman or are severely socially stunted.
>tfw you can't get good enough to do Varialess Magmoor
>people still think Metroid Prime 4 is going to be a thing
I don't get it. The primary antagonist of the Prime spin-offs, Metroid PRIME, is dead. Gone. It's never, ever coming back. All sources of Phazon have been completely and utterly eradicated - they disappeared when Dark Samus was destroyed on Phaaze.
I'm a gigantic Metroid fan and I adore the Prime games, but you people need to let it go. The Prime story is done.
>>339240583
That shit is honestly insane. Kudos to the people that can pull it off cause fuck that shit is impossible.
>>339240640
I'm trying to do a 4 tank run, I'm pretty sure only the 3 tank run is frame perfect.
>>339240624
>retard thinks Prime is just the enemy and not known as the style
Miyamoto himself referred to it that way. It will be Prime 4 when it comes out, either that or change it to something Sylux related.
>>339240624
The Trilogy has ended but we still have Hunters plot and whatever Federation Fuckers is about.
That space between Metroid and 2 is just a vacuum for infinite Prime games.
>>339240727
>all three prime games specifically dealt with the entity metroid prime, or the continuation of it, dark samus
>he thinks the game need to be a prime game to be a first person shooter/platformer hybrid
![Metroid-Zero-Mission-Endings[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/FBWvIMm.png "Metroid-Zero-Mission-Endings[1].png")
>>339240449
She's clearly dressed to draw attention.
>>339240269
GF_Sybb get the fuck out of this thread.
>>339240857
They're going to use the Prime name despite the titular monster being dead.
Hell technically it stopped being Prime after the first game but they keep using the name.
>>339241041
I said fuck off, GF_Sybb.
>>339241126
>>339241061
Is this the new ACfag?
>>339241152
Kind of, he is some weird ass pervert who keeps trying to shit up Metroid threads with talks of Samus's ass and trys to paint her as some sexual deviant. He always avoids bans every time he is reported.
>>339240784
Actually Prime is now a separate canon so they don't have to stick to the rules set in the original trilogy or Fusion
>>339239795
That idea is basically saying that samus would be socially inept because she usually works alone. Being a bounty hunter she basically has a plan to fuck up everyone she meets, not fuck everyone she meets.
While I see how this could be the case, my headcanon prior to Other M was actually pretty similar to Bayonetta's actual personality, but maybe a bit less smug.
You could pin the socially awkward samus on them wanting to make her a cute waifu too, but that's kinda shallow and I somehow doubt that even Sakamoto would do it for that stupid of a reason
>>339241332
Is it deviancy to search for casual sex now? Is Samus not allowed to have a sexual or social life? Why is it so hard for you to believe that an adult human would go out to bars in search of casual sex? Admittedly, they probably have some kind of super lightspeed tinder at that point, but still.
Also, nobody ever even knew who ACfag was. Any shitposter in Metroid threads was labelled ACfag, despite the fact that ACfag had a very, very specific shitpost style and subject.
>>339241414
>Actually Prime is now a separate canon
No it isn't. Jesus Christ who keeps fucking pushing this meme, Sakamoto has gone on record TWICE saying that the Prime games are canon. You niggers are just as bad as the "Link is a Stalfos!" dipshits.
>>339241414
Samus functions perfectly fine with her fellow hunters in Prime 3. Why would you base the canon on Other M's bizarre portrayal?
Samus' most likely personality is that she doesn't prefer company but is comfortable and capable whilst in it. Being alone a lot doesn't make you socially inept. Having no social contact as a child does, but Samus likely had human friends, and then was raised by the chozo after her home blew up and continued to have social contact. If spending weeks in space alone fucked your mind up then the Metroid universe wouldn't be functional.
>>339241414
>Actually Prime is now a separate canon
u fukken wot
Prime has never been a separate canon. Are you fucking stupid?
>>339241463
Anon I think you are actually mentally retarded if you draw out your personal erotic fantasy from 3 pictures at the end of a Metroid game.
>>339241609
>believing that Samus does not suffer from high functioning autism makes you a fetishist
You know, this is a Metroid thread so I can't actually tell if you're baiting or not, but I hope you are.
>>339241463
Get the fuck out!
>>339241414
Prime is canon dammit, stop with this
I hope Metroid dies. I really do. It had a good run with really good games and I would rather them not continue to pump out shitty games into the series.
>>339241695
>believing that Samus hangs around in bars looking for sex based off of 1 picture where she's having a drink
If there's anyone autistic in this thread it's definitely you.
>>339241819
Metroid will never die, not when there's tons of high quality fan-made content being put out.
Just like how DOOM never truly died.
>>339241489
>>339241594
>>339241702
My bad, I must have had outdated information
No need to get so assmad though, it's not like the two sets of games actually help each-others' narratives.
>>339241892
>Samus frequently goes out in public in provocative dress
>she's obviously a virgin
>nope, never had sex
>skimpy clothing and sex have no correlation in any logic or reality
Anon, I think you need help. What did daddy do to you to be so afraid of the concept of sex? Why does it hurt so much to think that adult fictional characters might be sexually active?
>>339241902
>out-dated information
Prime was literally never, ever stated to be an alternate canon. It was always stated to occur between Metroid 1 and 2.
I just want to see more of the X parasite. Hell, I'd be surprised if they were all wiped out. A lot of them ate researchers and the X keep all the knowledge of their host. They to of eaten SOMEONE who knows how to operate an escape pod. Or transform into something that can survive space, like a ripper.
The GC already had plans to use the X as bio weapons or something if I recall, so maybe they captured samples and it all goes to shit. Boom, Metroid Fusion 2.
>>339241695
Let's see I was raised by aliens until I was 14, I live with my own species for about 2 years before I go on my own, I'm a man now who has lived on his own for years and I go to a bar. If a hot chick sits next to me will I want to plow her and get her number, or will I not understand how to talk to a woman flirting with me and just leave the bar or just have a nice drink?
Zero Mission was the beginning of the downfall of the series.
In Metroid Fusion and the Prime series, the Power Suit is physical equipment. Samus is very much a walking tank with physical hardware. Then, Zero Mission began the trend of Samus putting on or taking off her suit via flashes of magical light, which led to Other M treating Samus like a fucking magical girl with her Power Suit being the schoolgirl uniform of her transformed state.
You could argue that in the credits scene of Super Metroid, where Samus's suit disappears in a weird wavy effect, is the same thing, but I'm pretty sure that that was just a weird effect they came up with, not how they thought her suit actually worked.
>>339224191
It's okay anon. There is still Other M after Prime 3.
>>339242135
Samus was at least kindergarten age when the pirates killed her parents. She'd have developed basic social skills which were then further reinforced by the Chozo.
Sure, when she first met a human male she'd be awkward, but she's bordering on 40 in Fusion so I think it's safe to say she's worked out the whole tab A slot B thing, and it's not even remotely unusual for a teenager/young adult to be awkward around the opposite sex.
Why are you so deadset on Samus being mentally retarded? Is it a fetish?
>>339242109
I can't think of a scenario when X will ever be brought up again. SR 388 is gone, and the station blew up. Yes technically some of them could have escaped in a pod, but the X are simply too virulent to use as a threat again. It works in Fusion because of the isolation, but otherwise they're simply too dangerous. They're like the thing, it's impossible to make a movie based around it in like a populated area, because the mechanism by which it works is just too powerful to have a decent explanation as to why it doesn't just instantly win.
>>339242276
Why are you pushing your fetish headcanon so insistently? People are trying to actually talk about Metroid, fuck off and write your fanfiction elsewhere.
>>339242402
Why do you want Samus to be a 40 year old virgin?
>>339242015
You know I'm sure plenty of people disagree with you in this thread anon but I think you have a point.
>between the age of 20 and 30
>portrayed as a whip-using dominatrix in Brawl
>a body that could get any guy she wanted
>short shorts and a top that has a triangle shaped hole just to expose the cleavage
If she's not getting the salami slammings then the swastika is a Tibetan good luck charm.
>>339242276
>but she's bordering on 40 in Fusion
You learn something new every day.
>>339242476
Well we really have no idea of her age in any of the games, but Fusion is much later in the timeline, so she's at least mid thirties. If Other M is included then Adam dies right after Super, and the way Samus talks about him in Fusion makes it seem like almost a decade has passed since.
>>339242476
Except when you don't because that's not true.
>>339242476
Indeed so, most indeededly
Am I the only one who loved her look in prime 1? She looked old as fuck but it made her look like she's been so I this shit for a long time.
>>339242476
Metroid probably works on Pokemon anime time.
>>339242569
She's 18-20 in Metroid
A couple weeks later, so18-20 in Prime
A couple years older in Prime 2, so 22-23
A couple more years for Prime 3, so 25
A year maybe to Metroid II, so 26
A few days to Super, so 26
A few months to Other M, so 26-27
Several years to Fusion, so probably at least 35
Biologically she might age faster or slower form her Chozo DNA, but chronologically she's at least 30.
>>339242729
Forgot Hunters and Pinball
>>339242729
Where are you coming up with this timeline? None of this is official.
>>339242109
There you go.
It's better than anything Sakamoto would be able to write anyway.
>>339242823
Pinball is just prime 1's story
>>339242276
She's in her 30s you ass, she's a fucking warrior she doesn't have time to fuck.
>>339242847
So it's a matter of days between Metroid and Fusion?
Retard.
Metroid II, Super and Other M are days apart, but all the other games are separated by months or years.
Dark Cloud 2
What the fuck went wrong with sakamoto, how could he have gone from super Mertroid to Other M? What happened?
>>339242458
Smash Samus and canon Samus are 2 very different people.
>>339242926
So you're just pulling numbers out of your ass and it's not based on anything official, got it.
>>339242953
speaking of which I have been emulating so because of save states I have not had to sit through saving once
unfortunately I wasn't quite sure as to how to do the butterfly second boss and ended up completing it before getting the scoop
>mfw
>>339242868I know I was just being a cheeky cunt/reminding people that was a thing that happened
>>339242969
They let him tell a story
Also Gunpei Yokoi died
>>339243006
Normally I'd call bullshit but then again Sakurai makes any character that isn't his into something completely different, so you have a point.
>>339242729
Metroid Prime takes place 3 years after Metroid. Super Metroid devs said she was in her late 20s by Metroid II and Super.
>>339243134
Not him but with that in mind I think I'd say
20 - Metroid
23 - Metroid Prime
24 - Metroid Prime 2
26 - Metroid Prime 3
23 to 28 - any other Prime game that I either missed or isn't out yet
28 or 29 - Metroid 2, Super, and Other M in a row, weeks in-between at most, and under a year
35 to 40 - Fusion (references Adam's death being decently long ago)
Never played Hunters might be missing big details don't hurt me daddy
>>339243009
The gap between Metroid 2 and Super had to be just a matter of days. Everything else is coming out of that anon's ass as far as I can tell. Could be that she was 20 in Metroid and 25 in Fusion.
>>339244326
The only thing we really know is that Super takes places literally right after II, possibly not even a day afterwards. What a shitty day for Samus, exterminating an entire species, then Mother Brain 2: Electric Boogaloo right afterwards.
>>339244435
Other M is unspecified time after Super right? Enough to clone Riddles and Metroids.
>>339224191
>tfw two of your favourite franchises both died in the same year
Thank fuck there was Fallout New Vegas and NFS Hot Pursuit(2010) to fill the void. 2010 was a shit year for video games.
>>339242342
Alright, what about this?
>GC develop X based bioweapon
>Space pirates catch wind of it, begin developing counter weapons based off their Metroid research
>GC finds out about the Space Pirates finding out about them, sends Samus to stop the Space Pirates
>GC tells you the Space Pirates are making Metroid based weaponry but doesn't tell you why, Samus has no idea GC is messing with X.
>Beat up the Space Pirates, gain several cool upgrades. Some of them seem near useless or have weird secondary properties you can't figure out
>Final zone opens up, it's a GC research station that's gone to shit after the X escaped
>Suddenly all these bullshit power ups make sense and you fight the X
>>339234489
Why the hell do people get so assblasted over the beam ammo in Echoes? The respective weapons would be horribly overpowered without the ammo system being in place, and furthermore, finding ammo is absolutely piss easy.
>>339240624
He "died" in 1 and 2 both, don't mean shit.
>>339244771
It wasn't that bad especially when you get the ammo upgrades
>>339244831
You killed Phaaze and all traces of Phazon in the universe.
Protip: It wasn't the Metroid part of Prime that kept it alive.
>>339244771
I was always worried I'd need the ammo for later, so I never used it unless I absolutely needed to. Same with phazon mode in Prime 3. I ended up never using it except for the parts where you literally have to.
>>339244998
I guess if they DID want to ass pull something for a Prime 4, I guess they could say the Space Pirates made an artificial phazon during their experiments or that the leviathan in the dark world in Prime 2 was unaffected since it's in a different dimension or whatever and is still going?
>>339244771
Prime 2 has so many other problems that I can't be assed to care about ammo that much. basically the problem is that it's a false way to necessitate the dark beam. Most of the threats are weak to light in Prime 2, but if you only use light then you won't get ammo for it, meaning you have to switch over sometimes just to get ammo. Prime 1 on the other hand gave each weapon (other than the power beam) actual reasons to use one over the other, such as the wave beam's homing, or the ice beam's 2-hit-KO opportunities when paired with missiles.
>>339245027
The problem lies with you then, you god damn pussy. I bet you never use the special weapons in mega man games until the boss.
>>339232547
This for fuck's sake.
It was literally the same plot as fusion. with a federation space facility cloning shit and conducting illegal experiments.
Even some bosses are the same ones, like nightmare.
>>339245462
Samus actually doesn't give twpo shits about discovering Metroids in Fusion. It's literally just a setup for the revelation that you probably cheesed off the Feds and the reveal that the SA-X who died was only one of 11.
>>339245462
And a lot of the enemies are taken from fusion and super
Are there people seriously defending Sakamoto in this thread?
http://lparchive.org/Metroid-Other-M/Interview%201/
http://lparchive.org/Metroid-Other-M/Interview%202/
http://lparchive.org/Metroid-Other-M/Interview%203/
http://lparchive.org/Metroid-Other-M/Interview%204/
IWATA: Why were you so focused on this idea of 'just one Wii Remote', Sakamoto-san?
SAKAMOTO: Metroid was originally a game for the Family Computer Disk System, and so could be played using just the +Control Pad and two buttons. Back then the game had simple controls: Move with the +Control Pad and use the two buttons to jump and shoot.
That's why I decided this time to make a game that just used one Wii Remote and didn't use the Nunchuk controller. Even in a Metroid world that ended up being constructed in 3D, the player feels more affinity with Samus when controlling her with the +Control Pad, even more so than with the Control Stick.
IWATA: What did you find difficult, as chief programmer, Aramaki-san?
ARAMAKI: All sorts of things, but as you can imagine, there was a lot of trial and error involved with making the game controllable with just one Wii Remote. Every time a new member of staff would join the project, they'd inevitably ask 'why aren't we using the Nunchuk controller?' Of course, there are only a few buttons that can be used on just one Wii Remote, so we had many, many button meetings about how Samus's diverse movements should be controlled.
SAKAMOTO: One Wii Remote doesn't really have enough buttons, though. There were times when some problems, such as trying to implement special actions, could potentially have been solved by connecting the Nunchuk. Even then though, we had an understanding that we would never 'resort to the Nunchuk'.
HAYASHI: That's right.
This man is a fucking lunatic who shouldn't be allowed anywhere near a video game dev studio.
>>339246370
Oh and look at this:
>SAKAMOTO: Another big theme in the Metroid series is 'exploration'.
>IWATA: By exploring every nook and cranny, players can discover various items and so on, can't they?
>SAKAMOTO: They can indeed. Since the Wii Remote can be used as a 'pointer', we decided to use this feature for exploration. Point the Wii Remote controller at the screen, and the viewpoint changes automatically. We call this the 'Search view'. We make use of 3D space for this, enabling players to fully enjoy the game's characteristic exploration aspect.
This man unironically thinks that those obligatory Where's Wally segments counted as 'exploration'.
>>339246370
>>339246490
I didn't exactly think highly of the man, but knowing that these words came out of his mouth and at no point did he question his judgement
I feel bad for those new guys. He's acting like they're in the wrong for thinking to use an analog controller in 3D space
>>339246370
I actually liked the idea. I enjoyed Other M and I thought it was a natural progression from the usual 2D games.
I'm still not sold on the whole "Other M ruined her character" shit too, since they either cite the manga that no one has read or go full Tumblr and says the game was against whatever headcanon fantasy they had. It's not like you can see what personality she had in most of the games anyway and Other M had as much monolouging as Fusion did.
>>339247546
your claims have been disproven before you even opened your ignorant mouth
read the thread
>>339247546
Well basically, you're a moron, and a faggot
You are objectively wrong on numerous levels, and if you're not fucking with us, then get better taste, you stupid whore.
You are the reason video games are bad, and I hope you die in a fire.
Good day.
>>339224816
same
