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Is the Hunter's Nightmare the best area in any RPG ever?
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Is the Hunter's Nightmare the best area in any RPG ever?

Absolutely everything about it is perfect, culminating in the best bossfight in the ARPG genre, and easily one of the best bosses in the entire medium
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The Old Hunters in general is the best.
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>>339185643
posting threads themes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKk6XqcmB4Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RzA_Oomra8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGXX0tPh7GU
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>Is the Hunter's Nightmare the best area in any RPG ever?

No, that is the Valley of the Mines.
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>>339185643
I found Lady Maria more fun to fight than Ludwig and was almost as challenging. I wish the DLC stuff replaced The Nightmare of Mensis in some capacity, found that area really dull. I liked it's scenery but the gameplay in those areas felt really uninspired, like they'd run out of steam by that point.
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I AM BRADOR
THE ULTIMATE BLOOD EDGE LORD OF DEMENT EDGE BLOOD SPIKE SUMMON EDGE
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>>339185643
Only a minority bought the expansion. And only tiny fraction actually completed it.

Not sure why, maybe it’s not as good as you say it is.
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>>339186125
Why?

The hunters nightmare is particularly amazing because of its lore significance after an entire maingame of hyping

the blooddrunk hunters, the visuals, the chalky bodies of amygdalas, ludwig, the river of blood etc

>>339186340
I think they should have just scrapped the nightmare frontier and made mensis twice as big with Amygdala as the first boss, micolash the second and then the wet shit

posting awesome trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbGdIdHOO3I
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>>339186420
He's not even a vileblood and doesn't even wield a "I will now cut myself" katana so he's definitly not the ultimate in edge.
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>>339186574
>Why?

first and mostly because the place i named is in an actual RPG not some japanese hack n slash action game
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>>339186569
Only a minority of people managed to even beat bloodborne, so what makes you believe they would buy the dlc let alone be able to get through Ludwig, which is the hardest boss in the entire series sans ancient dragon in dks2 and orphan of kos

>>339186761
go kill yourself

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzdhTGaWzec
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>>339186569
It's a bit repetitive and the trash mobs are highly annoying. If you play on NG+ or higher the entire expansion is a bitch. I'm not saying it's bad, it's just like they decided to use every annoying mechanic possible and throw it into the expansion. I find myself running past mobs rather than fighting them most of the time.
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>>339186727
he doesn't just stab himself

he has to fucking rip his weapon out from his guts to go into battle

he chases you down until you die forever
and he hates liars and wears the dead skin of animals over his face

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMA09wFkRZM

he is edge
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>>339185643
No, because the PvE sucks. The only things ToH did well were the bosses and level design desu. Otherwise it's just DaS2 levels of faggotry in the ambushes. It looks sick, but that's about it.

>>339186850
>dks2
Kill yourself, redditor.
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>>339185643
Bloodborne ain't an RPG. It's an action adventure game.

That area was really fun, but I kinda liked the fishing hamlet more.
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>>339185643
AotA > TOH
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>>339189570
This desu.

Also Sen's Fortress, Undead Burg and Anor Londo are better.
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>>339185643
>best bossfight in the genre
Bloodborne is excellent bout come on now.
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>>339189307
what the fuck retard? mentioning dks2 means im a redditor?

>>339189570
yeah, im sure all those old RPG's arent RPG's either according to your retarded definitions

bloodborne is the definition of a role playing game, it just doesnt hold your hand with retarded turn based combat nor does it have dialogue options

>>339189709
so name a better RPG boss than ludwig, taking into account every aspect of the boss from lore to the music
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>>339190082
>im sure all those old RPG's arent RPG's either
Which games you talking about? Many of them aren't, because they don't actually contain roleplaying. Almost all "JRPGs" for example. Turn-based combat isn't roleplaying, leveling up and distributing points into stats isn't roleplaying, choosing a combat class isn't roleplaying. The only roleplaying in Bloodborne is your freedom to kill certain NPCs or not, but it has almost no bearing on the game world and there is not really a "story" to influence so it's so negligible it's not worth considering.
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>>339189696
>Anal Londo

Looks like your first game was Dark Souls
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>>339186761
bloodfag destroyed.
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>>339190082
holy fucking shit LURK MOOOOOAAAAAAR you gigantic cock sucking dumb faggot
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>try out the Beast Cutter
>so it's a shit sword that turns into a slow whip, 0/10
>try the tricked jump attack
>mfw

And then that was the only attack I used for the rest of the game.
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daily reminder that dark souls 2 is best souls

>most weapons
>most covenants
>most builds
>best PvP
>best DLC
>best co-op
>comfiest town
>most replayability with different routes and entire new enemy layout in scholar

not allowed to reply if you didn't finish it at least 3 times. it's not for casuals.
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>>339191667
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>>339191823
DELETE THIS
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>>339191667
Nope.
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>>339191376
are you retarded?
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>>339191041
>leveling up and distributing points into stats isn't roleplaying
>choosing a combat class isn't roleplaying
The entire game industry (including P&P RPGs) disagrees with you, but okay.

>>339191667
It has the best replay value of any of them because literally anything besides the Ladle is viable, the levels are so short that new playthroughs are basically boss rush mode, and there are five directions you can go in right from the start.
But the story is a bit rubbish and the visuals are all over the place. Some parts look great, but then you have N64 forest and the poison gas level from WoW. I'd still rather replay it than DS3 though.

>>339191823
>it's different therefore it's bad
Not a criticism.
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>>339192332
>The entire game industry (including P&P RPGs) disagrees with you, but okay.
The majority isn't always right, Timmy. You'll learn this as you grow up.
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>>339187447
>Grimdark setting
>Complain about edgy characters
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Bloodborne and its expansion are the best content they've ever produced, by far. I feel sorry for PCucks who will never experience it
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>>339186125
Literally who
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>>339185643
no

it's a rather unmemorable area in a dlc which has two much more memorable levels.

just to name a few in the soulsborne series, most of latria is better, most of boletaria is better, shulva, brume tower and eleum loyce in their continuous entireties are better, lothric castle/grand archives is better, irithyll is better, the original cathedral ward area is far better, central yharnam is better, old yharnam is better, archdragon peak is better, and cathedral of the deep is better.

Mind though, that's in terms of level design.

In terms of bosses, orphan of kos is far better, nameless king, twin princes, and pontiff sulyvahn were also in my opinion, better than ludwig, especially as his first phase was relatively shit compared to his second both in terms of visuals and music.
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>>339191823
I tried DSII after playing DSIII. The graphics on DSII is horribly dated looking. When I first played DSII, I thought the graphics were pretty okay, but after playing III, I cant look back.
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>>339193682
why aren't you playing call of duty and uncharted if all you care is about is muh graphics
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>>339193987
>if all you care is about is muh graphics
Where the fuck did you get that idea? I'm not even the guy you replied to.
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>>339185643
yes. it's incredible how this DLC blow me. The main game already did it and somehow the old hunter surpassed it.
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>>339189696
Anor Londo is one of the shittier parts of Dark Souls though, it's just bland and empty.
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Alright faggots, start posting the fanart like you always do, I wanna start a folder with the best.
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Lady Maria is easy! Easy!
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>>339192832
If you keep being a contrarian dick for long enough, maybe the rest of the world will start agreeing with you. Keep it up senpai.

>>339193682
Depends on what you value in graphics. To me, the fact that I can downsample DS2 from 4K and still get 60fps makes it a better looking game than DS3. Obviously DS3 has better geometry and textures and skyboxes, but when there's distracting jaggies and framerate dips that doesn't count for much. Also I think the lighting is actually worse in DS3.
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>>339195303
It's not about being contrarian, but about being right.

What roles can you play in Bloodborne? Tell me that.
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>>339190082
I think he meant referring to it as dks2 was reddit.
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>>339195616
>What roles can you play in Bloodborne? Tell me that.
You play the role of the hunter
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>>339186761
>>339186574
Fucking rekt
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>>339195971
You need to be able to choose your role. If you're stuck with one, it's not a roleplaying game.

Also, hunter is not much of a role in this case, even when there are no other roles to compare it to. Your role as hunter amounts to just playing an action adventure game (the action is the reflex-based combat, the adventure is the exploration and trap/puzzle solving).
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>>339185643
>best bossfight in the ARPG genre
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>339196238
>You need to be able to choose your role. If you're stuck with one, it's not a roleplaying game.

according to who? you?
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>>339196395
I dunno who that character is, but it looks like someone from a children's cartoon
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>>339192332
if by P&P RPGs you mean only D&D and it's knockoffs, maybe
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>>339196238
So the Witcher is not a roleplaying game because you can only play as geralt, the witcher?

gtfo
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>be good hunter
>get to hunters nightmare
>decide to help out fellow hunters
>befriend this one bro from brazil
>me and him bro-op the whole dlc
>we don't use party chat only msg
>never see him after kos
:'^(
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>>339191667
>more is better

Any weapon from Bloodborne is tons better than the pile of shit weapons DSII had.
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BB2 when?
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>>339196395

name a better boss theme than 2.5 Rage Awakened. I'll wait
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>absolutely love the art direction in Bloodborne, hell the souls series
>can not bring myself to play it

I only completed Dark and Demon Souls because of the art direction but I can't go through that shit again. Shit sucks.
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>>339185643
Special mention to Durlag's Tower.
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What do you guys think theaas duacdsjjjiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
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>really want to play bloodborne
>don't have ps4
>not a big enough cuckold to buy one just for bloodborne

oh well
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>>339196483
It's from Kingdom Hearts, which is pretty close.
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>>339196947
Le Pacte Des Loups was so cool

The scene where Grégoire De Fronsac uses the fucking bone whipsword was my fucking favourite, along with Manny fucking the two twin sisters up, in front of everybody
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>>339196947
that movie was terrible
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>>339197181
i bet you used magic to beat DeS and DaS
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>>339197472
Wait there's a Bloodborne movie?
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>>339197650
Actually I favoured fucking huge swords both times. The black knight sword carried my throughout most of DaS. Fucking love that blade.
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>>339196443
What do you think is done in ANY tabletop game at all? Players choose their characters, or at the very least, choose how their characters will develop. They are not given a completely pre-written character in which all non-combat situations are narrated to them by the DM, and only participate in the dice rolling turn based combat scenarios. Roleplaying games have always been about more than the combat; the players participate in the social aspect too, and make decisions on how the story and their character progresses. Games that were just about the turn-based combat were called hack and slash games — roleplaying games without the roleplaying.

Now, do you see anything more than combat happening in Bloodborne? I honestly don't. Yeah, you have the freedom to kill NPCs. This does not progress the story or your character though in any meaningful way aside from maybe giving you access to an item.

>>339196591
I haven't really played them enough. But from what I understand, those games do give you minimal ways to influence how the story progresses, and lets you play a slightly different Geralt than other players might (a meaner Geralt, or a nicer one, or whatever). It's very very minimal, but the element is present in those games way more than in Bloodborne, enough that it deserves the RPG title more than those games, as far as video games might go. But those games are closer to Bethesda RPGs in essence, which don't hold a candle to games like Deus Ex, or the older D&D games.
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>>339197681
Yes and it came out in 2001.
pottery
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>>339197324
Shut the fuck up
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