So why do you faggots defend Morrowind's combat again? Are you that blinded by nostalgia?
This thread again?
IS this question the key to why daddy left you or what is the reason you ask us everyday?
>>339135075
>Only level 5
I'm not gonna defend dice rolling but this is some instant gratification whining if i ever saw it
i ordered and ate 3 family sized pizza today.
>>339135075
It's a game doesn't rely on superficial mechanics. If you want a fighter go play a fighting game or dark souls
>>339135075
Protip, a lot of NPCs can drop you like the guards and you won't be hitting them due to the fact they're gonna dodge your shit.
>>339135239
Is the plural of pizza pizza.
Can't it be something like, pizzazz.
>>339135401
some people say "pizza pies" although i never saw anything wrong with just "pizzas"
>>339135180
>you have to be high level before you start hitting any enemy
>>339135180
i Really wish more FP Rpgs used dice roll systems it really helps you feel the growth of your character
>>339135164
His dad left him because Morrowind had shit combat?I believe it
>implying fighting isn't like that IRL
>>339135332
>don't like it go play better games
This post almost seemed like fanboi shitposting for a second but this is actually the best answer you're gunna get.
>>339135075
I just want to know why everyone falls for such blatant shitposting. Every video is people either purposefully doing the worst things you can do, or modifying the game to make it look bad.
Because if you actually recorded the game normally, there wouldn't be any problems to show off. Because the system works.
>>339135075
>>339136271
Aged like fine milkI'm actually jelly I didn't finish it in it's prime it's practically unplayable in this era of good graphics
>>339136271
DELETE THIS
>>339136507
It isn't unplayable unless you're a child who never played any games from the early 2000s
>>339136507
Anon I played the game for the first time about 2 months ago and it's fineI didn't finish it because I got bored but I still got loads of playtime from it
It's not a bad thing that you can make a character fucking useless at combat.
Or that combat takes more than "left click."
Morrowind's combat isn't great but I can see how some people would find it better than Oblivion and Skyrim's combat.
Playing Elder Scrolls for the combat is like playing Kingdom Hearts for the story though.
>>339136271
I'm 99% certain OP kept reloading his save until he recorded missing a few times in a row.
I've never missed that much when attacking low level merchants like that, even at level 1.
>>339136507
>I play games for the graphics
Holy shit. You fucking children actually exist?
>>339135075
>>339136271
Absolutely BTFO, well done, serjo
>>339136507
>spoiler
Only a philistine would think this.
>>339136601
The first time I played I accidentally skipped probably 75% of the story quest without even realizing it. I think I left off at Caius Cosades telling me to do shit then 50-60 hours later I stumbled onto the Ashlanders and did their Nerevar quests, talked to Azura (or the other way around), and then finished the game by killing whats his tits. Missed getting corprus and everything. Every time I try to replay it something comes up and I end up forgetting about playing the game.
>>339136507
15 year old cheese can be delicious.
Morrowind sucks,only good thing is a story.
It is not worth playing it,just read the ingame books
>>339135075
I wish there was Morrowind discussion... not this shit everytime
>>339137112
Where have you been? We've been having good morrowind/oblivion threads every day for like the past week.
>>339135075
>morromemed
>>339136507
>unplayable in this era of good graphics
I hope you're not actually serious
and no, I'm not wearing any nostalgia goggles since I played this game for the first time a few weeks ago
>>339135075
Morrowind combat wasn't great, but at least it managed to bring the character's skill into the equation, as it should be in an RPG.
>>339136507
why are graphics such a big deal to people?
i mean, i get that pretty graphics can be awesome, and add to a game. but when i play an old game, it's surprising how quickly your eyes adjust to the old graphics. it doesn't take much time. I can easily play games on the N64/PS1 and tolerate, even enjoy how they look and get into it. I am confused when people say that old/outdated graphics make a game unplayable for them.
Morrowind has always been shit. There is no excuse for those walk animations. Every character walks as if they've just shit themselves.
>>339135239
'go style 'za? I love myself some good deepest dish goza.
>>339136271
Rekt
>>339136271
I like how the fags that complain about missing in morrowind always get BTFO
>>339136271
I knew that webm of the OP was absolute shenanigans. With those stats he should have been able to hit just fine
>>339137462
I'd be in a state of always having shat myself if I had to deal with cliff racers.
>>339136507
I'm playing it now and I'm fine, you're just spoiled and a casual, like people who can't watch older films
>>339137462
Do you see any toilets?
>>339136507
So get the sound and graphics overhaul if it bothers you that much, shit installs itself for you and everything
I'm playing with MGSO now and while I like the graphics overhaul mostly, the sound replacements give a really weird vibe completely different to what I was used to.
Not sure if I like it.
Looks pretty enough though.
>>339137954
>38 fps
no thanks
>>339136507
are you fucking kidding me, it fucking beautiful
>>339137701
Seconded, breathed new life into this wonderful sandbox called Vvardenfell
and a combat 'fix' helped a little too. Being a thief in Morrowind is hell, but oh so gratifying
>>339138117
Playing on a 4 year old low-midrange card with most settings maxed. And this is outside, inside is 120 fps or so. Current systems will run it well over 60 fps anywhere.
>>339135075
is there a mod for fixing the combat? I want to play a melee warrior but don't want to play shitty morroblivion. Even something that fixes the dice rolls would be fine.
>>339136271
Hopefully OP will get some better bait now that this one has a webm exposing him to all the people who haven't played Morrowind and believed it.I'm sure Morrowindfags can get annoying but anyone who needs muh visceral combat in an rpg is a casual modern gamer ie cancer
>>339138372
>who needs good GAMEplay in a GAME?
>>339138675
>What is role playing
>What is character building
>What is exploration
Combat isn't the only form of gameplay and not all combat needs to feel satisfying to be good. Morrowind's combat is far from good but there are games where their combat system serves the game well without being muh visceral combat
>>339135694
All your video proves is Redguards wipe the floor with shitty Bosmer in hand to hand.
My next playthrough will be as a thieving nigger.
Although, for lockpicking you need high intelligence so that's a bit contradictory.
>>339139253
Make him a rare school nigga gone back to da roots.
>tfw beast races won't be naked ever again
and yes I'm a furry
>>339135075
It's still a dice rolling combat.
And she has far better agility and level than you.
Thus it's much more likely he dodges your attacks.
There is no animation for it, but whenever you don't hit an enemy in Morrowind, they are dodging your attack.
Use your fucking animation you retard, and stop making these threads just to get attention and distraction from your pathetic loser life.
>>339139253
Does anyone ever play a character that's not of the thieving persuasion?
>>339139912
Thieving and ranged combat sucked in morrowind
>>339140093
Yes, but I still steal everything that I can.
With my current character I made a 100% chameleon spell as soon as I could and now I can steal anything from right under anyone's nose without them noticing.
Also you can cheese the fuck out of sneaking to steal shit that shouldn't be possible to steal.
>>339136592
I beat the first crash a few months ago again so try again fag.
>>339139597
Reality is suffering, sera
>>339139912
>he hasn't played a righteous Dunmer Redoran knight
>>339137609
>spoiled
Graphically maybe modern games are mostly shit
>casual
Debatable but my favorite genre is roguelikes if you believe that.
>>339139912
>>339140518
Upstanding dunmer pilgrim is fun too.
Otherwise I steal shit to train mercantile up to 100, make potions, buy things, and sell them back immediately for more than I bought them for.
>>339135075
At this point it is pavlovian.
Stop teasing the old timers so close to nap time.
>>339135104
Combat this shitty will be spoken of for ages anon.
>>339136507
I'm always glad to see posts like these.
imagine you're this faggot not able to enjoy old games. Feela good.
>>339140782
Pilgrim is pretty fun, Morrowind is one of the best games for playing the 'unassuming/humble master' character.
>mercantile to 100
For what purpose?
>>339142762
If you weren't too busy shitposting you'd see that I said I've playedand enjoyedolder games, marrowing just looks like ass.
Deal with it kid.
I just need TWO mods to exist to be able to play this game for more than 10 hours without getting bored:
1. Make towns come alive with NPCs actually doing stuff, most NPCs just sit in one location all day and do nothing. However this would have to not impact gameplay or ruin quests too much. When I play Morrowind I am very aware that no one else except for me actually has a life - even Skyrim did that far better.
2. The graphics overhaul package is amazing but no option to be able to scale the UI back up to manageable levels and reading long ass NPC dialog means I have to lean in to my monitor to read it.
>>339142762
Though it would be nice to just summarily cut off half of my backlog
>>339137162
>Oblivion
No you had 5 Morrowind threads a day. There's only been 1 Oblivion thread this month.
>>339143759
That's because Morrowind is literally babbys first cult classic and skyrim is the popular casual haven, no one, gives a shit about oblivion, and the older elder scrolls dont even exist to casuls.
>>339136740
isnt there an option in the settings menu to force your weapon to always use the best attack?
>>339135075
>are you that blinded by nostalgia?
Yes.
Everyone's first Bethesda game always ends up being their favourite because all Bethesda games have the same strengths and weaknesses.Except Fallout 4, which was bad because it doesn't even pretend to be an RPG.
Is 3.0 the MGSO version to use?
Got an itch to play it a bit but my old install (due to registry issues) won't boot up anymore so I probably need to start fresh.
>>339144123
>Everyone's first Bethesda game always ends up being their favourite
My first TES game was Arena and I hated it. I didn't care much for Daggerfall either, felt it was needlessly complicated.
Morrowind I felt was a nice middle ground between the simplicity of Arena and the convolution of Daggerfall.
>>339136507
Deus Ex is also unplayable
Thief 1 and 2 are also unplayable
System Shock 1 and 2 are also unplayable
etc etc
I feel sorry for you for not being able to enjoy good games. I bet you were born in the 00's.
When will Reddit accept the fact that Daggerfall is better than Morrowind?
>>339137439
morrowind may be miles ahead games on ps1, but games like say future cop LAPD are much more pleasing to the eye than morrowind. Morrowind is plain ugly, it was in 2003 and it sure as hell is now. At least in 2003 it was ugly but advanced but now it just looks like shit. The graphics don't really bother me, but it is a fucking ugly game, even though the art and concepts are cool as fuck.
Anyone played Arktwend?
Know where I find the digger that was used to kill this dude?
>>339144384
Fuck of underage.
Dwarf fort has no graphics yet somehow is better than almost all modern games.
>>339144123
My first bethesda game was oblivion, and it's fucking shit. So is skyrim and probably all other bethesda games.
>>339144423
Never mind, found it.
>>339144492
I see sarcasm eludes you.
>>339144123
Oblibion was my first and it's like the worst video game I've played.
>>339144123
Morrowine is the first tes I played and it was the worst thing to happen to my life.
>>339144548
Oblivion was shit, a lot less entertaining than Morrowind or Skyrim.
But don't you shit-talk Skyrim you fucking newfag.
>>339145110
hear hear
I played it for about a year before even finishing the campaign.
>>339145231
Skyrim is bad for every reason oblivion was bad you casual shitter scum.
>>339140471
>I beat the first crash a few months ago again so try again fag.
>>339145231
>But don't you shit-talk Skyrim you fucking newfag.
>>339135075
Shite bait famalam, but here's a real response nonetheless.
Morrowind's combat is all based about the limitations of the system at the time. Without the capabilities to fully display what dynamic combat would be like, they still kept the dice rolling system in order to keep the essence of what the fight should be. It has the flaws of a dice rolling system, such as some encounters going to negative and positive extremes, but overall it's ok.
The reason why people prefer Morrowind's combat system over later Elder Scrolls titles is that it still does a better job painting the encounter. After 9 years, Skyrim showed no real improvement in creating a responsive combat system. It's not surprising, considering that it has been the same engine. Weapons still have canned animations, enemies react only with staggering, and how you actually hit them has no real effect outside of whether or not they're blocking; however, the problem all starts to arise with the fact that Skyrim takes your stats much less into account. It's all boiled down to HP, Magicka, Weapon DMG, and Stamina is reserved only for power attacks and sprinting. Morrowind, despite its flaws, delivers a better combat experience because who your character is overall matters more, while in Skyrim it's only about how many attacks you can do.
It's the same reason people prefer tabletop RPGs over games like Skyrim. It's better to take the occasional flaws that you can change with stats than a shite, mind-numbingly simple system.
>>339145308
Me too except with oblivion ended up becoming the gay nigger vampire grey fox archmage champion slayer and somewhere along the line I think I also became a mad god.
>>339136507
Fucking kids, you ungrateful fuckers
>>339140782
Jokes on you, mercantile is broken and actually makes items more expensive unless it was patched out but I don't remember it being patched
>>339143337
>kid
best way to spot underage
cry some more about bad graphics
>>339145995
Nice try I'm an 22 yo senor and don't even play Nintendo games fag.
>>339146279
>22
>not a kid
Don't trust anyone under 80
>>339146279
How is that possible? Did you never play games as a kid? I seriously can't fathom someone your age who only enjoys video games for their graphics
Probably nobody's going to believe this. But I actually played Morrowind first but preferred Oblivion. That said both are great games.
Skyrim on the other hand was a bit too dumbed down for me(Thank god for the mods).
>>339145891
>played Oblivion for a year
how
>>339146145
It was by community patches.
>>339146445
Same reason I play girls in video game, why stare at something ugly for hours on end when my dick could be diamonds the entire time?
>>339146481
>But I actually played Morrowind first but preferred Oblivion.
Why, better combat?
>>339146505
>how
It wasfunget over yourself fag
>>339144393
Never. /v/eddit is a board where people unironically like Oblivion, let that sink in.
>>339146704
...but how? What the fuck did you do for an entire year? Did it take you that long to finish the game?
>>339146650
Not him, but for me it's because the quests are better, the towns have a more familiar comfy design to them, and I love the music
>taking the average /v/ poster who was born after 1998 and who gets their opinions of videogames off of youtube e-celebs seriously
>>339146812
First cpl hours are shit especially if you do the wrong quests first like kevatch but there are plenty to do with quests and guilds trying to fuck with game mechanics like slipping a poison apple in guards pockets and watching them slowly die from it. Also the god tier dlc.
How were you able to play morrowind so long? I get bored to tears after the first few hour everytime I try to play and trust me I've tried it plenty.
>>339146935
t. /v/irgin born in 1997
>>339135674
underrated toast
>>339136507
>I'm actually jelly I didn't finish it in it's prime it's practically unplayable in this era of good graphics
I'll never understand people like you.
>>339135075
kekek git gud faggyboy
>>339135596
dice roll system is only all right if there is real time element to manipulate it (to a certain extent based on your skills) and the enemies actually have animation to dodge/block it.
>>339146864
It's funny because I think literally the opposite. Oblivion's quest were less interesting, towns were boring, and music was generic.
>>339135075
Because people who like games with plenty of reading / lore don't get turned off by combat more complex than click-to-win.
I'd say quite opposite even. Game mechanics and number of nuances in them make it even more interesting, because we like to learn new mechanics and use that knowledge to improve odds in our favour.
>>339135075
>nostalgia
It's not nostalgia if I genuinely enjoy the game even right now.
>>339144423
>>339144801
morrowind quest mods seem like a great idea especially because you don't have quest markers and all that shit.
I never bothered with any quest mods for Skyrim and Oblivion because of the fucking quest markers make it seem either too easy, linear or boring. Well, except maybe Trainwiz's mods.
So how are the Morrowind quest mods?
Best mods for morrowind?
>>339135694
>/pol/_during_middleschool.webm
Is Nehrim any good? I read that it's not fully translated.
>>339135694
>futureschoolshooter.webm
Repost to fix double quote messiness.
>>339146864
>the quests are better
What do you mean? I don't hate Oblivion but I thought the opposite. Do you just mean because of the mechanics/engine what you have to do is more varied (ie the final Thieves Guild heist?)? Or setpieces like Whodunit?
>the towns have a more familiar comfy design to them, and I love the music
That's fair enough, even if I thought the opposite because I love the alien-yet-comforting feel of Morrowind
Granted, once I tried Oblivion very heavily-modded only recently, I enjoyed the atmosphere a lot more, but the base game...
>>339147101
>there are plenty to do with quests and guilds trying to fuck with game mechanics
I dunno, it might be a personal-taste thing but I just haven't had any fun replaying Oblivion at all. From trying it when it came out, I finished it really quickly with one character and then just couldn't attempt it again. Like, a whole year? There's no way it could keep me amused for that long.
>How were you able to play morrowind so long?
It's interesting, deep, I think the world is well-built, I enjoy the character progression and the mechanics and it's excellent for replaying and trying different things.
>>339147562
>I'd say quite opposite even. Game mechanics and number of nuances in them make it even more interesting, because we like to learn new mechanics and use that knowledge to improve odds in our favour.
Agreed. Look at magical combat in Morrowind for example, or different weapon classes
>>339148223
Uninstall.exe
>>339148794
B-but it's not a mod!
>>339147797
I remember playing one giant mod back in the day that completely blew me away. Wizards' Islands or something I think it was called.
Added a whole new island to the game, complete with story, quests and awesome shit.
>>339147797
>So how are the Morrowind quest mods?
The same as Oblivion and Skyrim, some are shit and some are great.
I'm enjoying Arktwend but I really have no idea what the hell I'm meant to be doing to continue the main quest. Seems I've hit a brick wall following the city guard quests.
>>339135075
>Are you that blinded by nostalgia?
it was baby's first rpg so it's to be expected
>>339148678
>It's interesting, deep, I think the world is well-built, I enjoy the character progression and the mechanics and it's excellent for replaying and trying different things.
>deep
Now if I was a shitposter this is the part where I'd throw the conversation away and start memeing on you, but I understand we clearly like these games for different reasonsand that's fine,as long as we can both agree skyrim is horse shit
Our only sin is enjoying bethesda games.
>>339147508
Yea I don't know.I just can't agree with this. Oblivions quests along with Shivering Isles was a blast to play through for me. They just felt more varied, more entertaining and more interesting than the ones in Morrowind.
>>339135075
If we had mods and janitors who are not literally new they'd know that this thread needs to be deleted because it's flamebaiting. Instead we're literally outsourcing moderation to some pajeet third worlder who can't even read english.
>>339136740
>>339144075
You do know you can just open the console and give the guy like 100000000000000 agility so he would dodge your attacks or some crap?
It takes like 1sec.
>>339135075
Jesus, that's terrible.
>>339150632
>a game widely agreed to be terrible looks terrible
You don't say!
>>339150721
Morrowind is widely agreed to be good, though. I played it for like 12 hours - cool setting, terrible gameplay. It's not just miss-miss-miss, the melee is just not fun at all and magic is silly OP, so is alchemy. I kinda wish there was a version with combat that didn't suck ass.
>>339135075
>mfw he increased the dodge stats of the NPC in console before making this webm
>mfw i have no face
>>339150835
>Morrowind is widely agreed to be good, though
Only on /v/ and only when Euroshits are awake. If you honestly think Morrowind is a good (pffff) game, you need to consider putting a bullet through your brain.
>>339150835
>I kinda wish there was a version with combat that didn't suck ass.
It's called skyrim.
>>339149370
>spoilerThanks anon, it was nice to have a civil discussion in this ocean of memeing
>>339149370
>Our only sin is enjoying bethesda games.
Reality is suffering, sera.
>>339151142
Skyrim looks so boring, though.
>>339151142
>It's called skyrim.
>Skyrim approaching the complexity and brilliance of Morrowind in any way that isn't melee combat (which wasn't great to begin with)
Look at this n'wah
>>339151142
>skyrim
>good combat
>>339151142
Skyrim combat is floaty and repetitive bullshit, and half the time you're scrolling through a menu to select the right spell, and half the time you're doing the hokey pokey with idiot AI that sits still and swipes at you. Except for some areas where you enter a cave and some fuck starts throwing around undodgeable particle effects, causing you to spend 99% of the time in your menu chugging potions before reaching his ass and one-hitting him. Seriously I logged nearly 300 hours in Skyrim and I've gotta say the combat is my least favourite part.
Does anyone know if there is a way to make darknut's gdr and morrowind rebirth 3.6 run along nicely?
hah
>>339136271
Not shown: 10 seconds before the recording, he uses the console to set the NPC's luck and agility to 1.
>>339152946
>125x70
>>339152946
Anon i...
>>339152946
>>339135075
Not shown: 10 seconds before the recording, he uses the console to set the NPC's luck and agility to 100.
>>339152946
Based
>>339135075
So... if I want to use the Morrowind Overhaul, do I have to install the Graphics Extender manually? What about the Script Extender?
Do I install Tamriel Rebuilt before or after the Overhaul?Pls help
>>339135694
>fucking anime pose
>all those hits with no strength to them
No wonder he get btfo
What just happened here?
>>339154424
Justice, outlander.
>>339154424
You have broken the law
>>339147318
>to a certain extent based on your skills
This totally defeats the purpose of a role-playing game.
An RPG is a game where you play a character who isn't you, and are not only helped by their strengths but constrained by their weaknesses and limitations. You should not be able to get around the fact that you made a character who is shit at combat because you happen to have 10,000 hours playing reflex based games.
If you want to play a game where player skill is paramount, there are plenty available.
>>339154771
Except player skill already plays role in Morrowind as you manually dodge enemy attacks and enemies. If you make a FPP game, make combat look good in FPP, if you want to go full dicerolls make an isometric game, like Fallout. Which is a good game.
Combat aside, how can anyone think that this >>339135075 looks better than this>>339136271? Plastering gaudy textures that look nothing like the original everywhere doesn't make the game better, even if they are higher resulution.
Morrowind in deep
>defend Morrowind's combat
Uhh, no? Even the die hard fans of this game admit it's beyond bad.
No one plays Elder Scrolls for it's gameplay, it's like reading a book for it's musical score.
>>339139078
To be fair it looks like it was a level 13 redguard versus a level 8 bosmer
>>339155410
Bosmer had it coming, regardless.
>>339140518
Whats going on with his legs?
Explain it lorefags.
>>339155486
Yeah redguard seems like an ok guy, he gave the dude a chance and then stopped when he went down
>>339155530
the real question is: what was going on with his dick and the cat chick later that night
>>339155170
This post is great. On a less involved level, the sheer amount of interaction between the factions (both background and during quests) is incredible once you start thinking about it.
>>339155085
Do you have any recommended graphics changes, sera?
>>339155530
They'refine?
recommended mod list for morrowind? I've never been much of mod user, but I can't stand this game vanilla. it has not aged well. thank you in advance anons.
Bethesda drones are shit eaters, they'll defend those shit games to no end, defending the copy pasted dungeons of Oblivion and more
>>339146617
>>339146279
Is this what autism looks like
>>339156267
>I've never been much of mod user, but I can't stand this game vanilla. it has not aged well.
Just the Overhauland maybe Tamriel Rebuilt if you want extra content
>>339155826
From the top of my head, this http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/29631/? hlaalu retexture and these http://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/22551/? tapestries look better than abomination in OP.
>>339156661
Thanks, but I just meant... more generally?
I reinstalled to play for the first timenon-watercolouredin ages and I'm a bit lost as to what to use, someone last thread recommended the Overhaul.
>>339135239
t. Normal American
>>339157746
Never used overhauls so I can't tell you about that. I don't even have my modlist anymore. Had to look through Nexus for a while before I found the mods I used.
>>339158659
Alright, thanks anyway sera
