Let's talk about this series and the upcoming game.
What do you think of this new trailer?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HW1V1HQ5PDE
I really wish they would have gotten rid of that strange unexplainable "this is a ps2 game in the jacket of a next gen game" look
Human revolution has that issue but in the current gen way
>>339106662
I liked it. I wouldn't mind seeing a full movie, maybe about the day the augs went murder mode.
>>339106662
I was hoping for a full Deus Ex game rather than just HR 1.5 to be honest
>>339106848
>ps2 graphics
what?
>>339106848
I didn't mind HR but why does MD look like the models are made from clay?
>>339106662
Will Pritchard, Sarif, Malik, and Megan appear?
>>339106662
Is square enix
>DESPERATE
Yet?
>>339106992
I don't mind, I really enjoyed the story, characters and tone of HR so I'd love to get more of that.
>>339107116
megan will probably appear if that cutscene after the credits in HR is any indication.
Trailer was way better than I was expecting.
Then again, most of the marketing for Deus Ex (this and HR) has been on-point so I don't know why I was surprised.
Darrow ruined everything.
Like holy shit, he really did.
>>339107116
Pritchard and Megan yes
Sarif and Malik have been put on a bus.
>>339107042
1. that's from a youtube video, quality is never going to be right
2. that's not what clay looks like
>>339107471
Eidos Motreal are really good at world building before a game even comes out.
HR had a similar marketing scheme.
https://augaware.org/
http://versalife.com/
>>339107829
>>339107921
>>339108078
>for those Americans who say they don't like the taste of water
>>339107778
Damn. Sarif was great and Paula Jean Hixson's voice acting was top notch.
>>339108204
>>339108302
>>339108424
>>339108537
>>339108657
these are cool as hell
>>339108657
I would fucking watch this, it sounds radical as fuck.
>>339108657
Reminds me of Valentine from Fallout 4, would totally watch this.
>>339108657
*tips fedora*
>>339106662
The new DX marketing makes me cringe to be honest.
Trying too hard to make it relevant to today instead of letting it be in its own universe.
Original Deus Ex had that mystery and feel about it that I didnt mind all the conspiracy theory tropes thrown in.
>>339109561
>cringe
Fuck off
>>339109649
He's right though.
>https://youtu.be/U9DaYOk6y9E?t=51
>browsing 4chan
>2057
>>339109561
>>339110071
I just hope there's something going on beyond "mechanical apartheid" at this point, but maybe they're saving that for the actual game.
>>339110718
Well, Jensen is now part of some special force, The hacker known as 4chan is now an actual pro-aug terrorism organisation, there´s anti-aug terrorists, and Eidos already established a data bank and a PMC to be relevant. I seriously doubt this will only push some anti-apartheid message. I expect us to get some sweet conspiracies.
>mfw it was supposed to come out on my birthday
Really, the lack of trailers a couple of months out should have made me realize the inevitable, but damn it hurt.
That being said, I could not be more ready for this shit to come out. Human Revolution was one of the few games in the last decade I was able to get into like nothing else.
>>339109561
Maybe it's just me but I lost interest as soon as M12 entered the fray, which is funny because that's not even halfway through.
I loved that Page and M12 were a backseat in HR, because that's the point, they're shady as shit and good at what they do.
JC figuring everything out in a single game just felt compacted. It wasn't a story that needed to be told, it was a plot of a mediocre, 10-season CBS production with some of the dialogue and voice "acting" straight out of Hawaii Five-O.
I don't want to unravel M12, I want to watch them work. DX doesn't let you do that because within 5 hours you've done random shit until Paul is like "btw there's a shadow government lets go kill them JC".I would honestly rate DX as one of the worst games I've ever played, from all angles. MGS1 was infinitely superior, and MGS2 came out less than 6 months after DX. DX was just an all around mediocre production.
>>339111379
>The hacker known as 4chan is now a terrorism organisation
What?
>>339107116
Sarif is probably dead like everybody else on Panchaea. Same with Taggart and Darrow.
>>339106662
I'm rooting for the humans. I'm not falling for this X-men-transhuman propaganda. The superhumans being oppressed? Cry me a goddamn river.
I really hope the TV/Radio segments are longer. I also hope Jensen's apartment is comfy.Will Jensen become Icarus AI in this one?
>>339113007
Well given that pretty much everybody with mech augs in the first game is military or ex-military, it's fair to say pure humans "win"
>>339106662
I like it, oddly enough. I'm usually not a fan of trailers that don't show gameplay, but for setting up the lore and story for people who might have not have played human revolution, this was probably the best way to do it.
Showing the one couple on and off throughout the trailer and watching their relation change as the rest of the world changes around them was fantastic.
Music was equally good.
>>339110625
Love these videos
>>339113007
>2016
>he doesn't believe in controlled evolution
You're holding us back anon
>>339106662
I kind of think HR/MD should just be their own timeline. DX1's story is balls to the walls insane so the more downplayed narrative in these games feels incongruent.
>>339110625
>I was on 4chan, they always talk about pink and white for whatever reason
Would've made more sense if it was purple and green
>>339110718
Did you watch the 101 trailer? Jensen's whole goal is to take down the Illuminati. Lord knows why, they did nuffin wrong.
>>339113538
But anon you don't understand I want youTO CODE THAT PINKDO IT
>>339112398
I thought of DX's story as dumb fun, JC himself seems pretty incredulous most of the time. I don't know anybody would try to pass it off as a good plot, and why they bothered to keep the new series in canon with the old.
>>339113837
What else is Jensen going to do? Fuck Megan's mom?
>>339112398
Well that's a benefit of HR and MD. No matter what happens the real bad guys will remain in power for at least the next 20 years, and if anything Jensen will probably be damaging into killing off Page's rivals' influence.
I loved Invisible War because it basically doubled down on the assertion that humanity cannot exist without some power structure guiding it down one path or another---and that the fall of MJ12 was very quickly succeeded by another equally shady (but far more benevolent, all things considered) group of oligarchs controlling the masses just like Page did.
>>339113007
Agreed. I have no hatred towards mutants, metahumans, post-humans, cyborgs or whatever this collection calls themselves, but I'm also not pretending their existence does not present a clear danger to normal humans. These sort of groups are living weapons, and I don't want to be there when they suddenly malfunction or act unstable, as shown in this trailer and countless other media featuring these kinds of scenarios.
Sorry, I just don't want to associate with augments, anymore than I want to associate with weapons of mass destruction in general.
>>339114303
DX1 was memorable precisely because of the bad voice acting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09vVF-Hvykg
You can actually hear JC's voice actor smack his lips after he says "He was a good man"
>People riot because someone has a plastic arm
>>339106662
Isn't it sad that they are pushing this fictional transhumanism and apartheid stuff so hard? A game about this stuff is made before a game of the apartheid and oppression faced by transgender people which is happening in the real world NOW.
Trans people are segregated by bathrooms, often told to use the incorrect ones or a "third" option, like a nurse's bathroom or something in a school. They are being murdered in high numbers, driven to suicide in high numbers and protested by the masses, simply for existing. Real world problems, but yes, let's make another fictional game about white cis guys with expensive technology being fucking oppressed. Give me a break.
>https://augaware.org/en-us/
Holy fuck this is so well made.
Wow.
>>339114361
Fight people putting them mech augs down dawg
>>339115069
jjb pls leave
>>339114960
0/10 low energy
>>339113161
It always bothered me that in the first game, a large portion of the military and law enforcement were augmented, yet here, in the sequel, the people enforcing the law seem to be unaugmented humans for the most part. What happened to the augmented people? Also, how are unaugmented people even going to pose a challenge to the extreme lethal augs like Denton or the leaders of those terrorists?
>>339114730
>what a shame
Every goddamn time
>>339115351
No one in belltower was augmented. They all wore the standard belltower suits. The only augs were the tyrants and some mid level detroit coppers on Sarif's bribe list.
>>339115432
Nice image you have there.
>>339115351
Augs are mainly nano augs in DX, much more discreet than those in HR. But I guess there will be something in MD which will link the two and resolve the problem of augmentation. Aparthieds never last forever
>>339115596
When he says "the first game", he meant HR.
>>339107116
>>339107778
>no best girl
Fuck, her and Jensen were my favorite couple
Never let her die in any playthroughs
how long until the dx remake
>>339115712
She's arab. It's her duty to die at the center of an explosion.
>>339107829
>Jaw augmentations
>>339116089
She's American. Shit she's probably born in Deerborn or something.
She and Jenny Alexander were 10/10 best girls.
Fuck Megan.
>>339116036
Within 6 months.
![knockout-2[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/1T8TU3s.jpg "knockout-2[1].jpg")
>>339116131
>A punch to the jaw causes the head to suddenly spin around. This quick motion of causes trauma to the brain that knocks the recipient out leaving him unconscious. Points on the jaw that are especially vulnerable to knockouts are the sides of the chin, and where the jaw is attaches to the skull.
Having a metal jaw makes sense for UFC fighter.
>>339115693
Oh, well we see the cops having exoarmors, and it's no like being augmented suffices you against trained squads. It makes you strong but not invincible
>>339117134
>exoarmors,
You just reminded me about how the exosuits in Cod AW and Elysium make limb based augs redundant to the max. The exo suits give you same strength, but you can take them off at the end of the day and touch your wife's boobs with your real hands.
>>339117336
The ultimate goal is to have both. Limbs that feel as natural than a real one but stronger, more resilient, etc. They're competitive technologies, but you forget prostheses are necessary for injured people, which will always happen in the military.
The MC in AW has both btw
>2:19
Alex Jones?
>>339117824
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZ_7J9O1TqY
>>339111810
>mfw it was supposed to come out on my birthday
Now it comes out on MY birthday
You jelly?
>>339112398
>I would honestly rate DX as one of the worst games I've ever played, from all angles. MGS1 was infinitely superior, and MGS2 came out less than 6 months after DX. DX was just an all around mediocre production.
Ignoring this flagrant display of shit taste, I'm not even sure why you're mentioning Metal Gear. Aside from a conspiratorial bent they don't have much in common.
>>339117524
Imagine if a guy with augmented limbs also used an exosuit.
>>339112398
Metal Gear and Deus Ex aren't alike at all.
>>339107042
His face is synthetic.
>>339118615
That's called Gundam thunderbolt. And the guy is an ace pilot
>>339108204
>does'nt
Come on, man.
>>339119921
Forgot pic ofc
>>339112398
Deus Ex is fun conspiracy bullshit where every crackpot theory exists simultaneously in some form within a single universe. It's kitsch on purpose and only enters into the serious on occasion. Did you seriously believe a secret MJ12 facility hidden in the sewers of New York City was supposed to a realistic portrayal of a secret shadow government?
By contrast, HR takes everything deadly serious despite things being only marginally less ridiculous. Instead of focusing on the grand overarching conspiracy with multiple factions and powers all vying for control and weaving webs of intrigue, everything is consumed by the incredibly simplistic augmentation debate. It's absolutely everywhere in the game and it's entirely boring.
>>339120242
>he doesn't know there are secret underground MJ12 bases in sewers all over America in real life
Wake up bro. Think about it, who's gonna go into the sewers? Nobody. It's the perfect hideout.
>>339120670
That's ridiculous. They'd be constantly fighting off the alligators. No time to for any plotting.
>>339120242
>he didn't take the sewerpill
>>339120758
Dude, the alligators are controlled by MJ12 with laser mind rays.
>>339113179
It was kind of overwrought for me
>>339107042
Looks like a wax mannequin
So all of this from a couple of lines about mechs in the Deus Ex bible?
>Total humans consider themselves purse and are at the top of the heap. They need augmented humans but fear and distrust them. Most total humans don't even know nano-augmented humans exist.
>Mechanically augmented humans have their own airport security systems and have to register with government authorities. They are second-class citizens, looked down upon even by the non-augmented poor. There's no way a mechanically augmented human can pass for normal for very long. They're not allowed in certain locations and have separate facilities, ostensibly tailored to their unique needs but really as a way of controlling them.
>Nano-augmented humans are resented by their mechanically augmented brothers and sisters. They're as powerful as mechanically augmented humans but suffer none of the stigma associated with augmentation. They can pass through airport security and mingle with humans freely.
http://www.nanoaugur.net/dx/bible/
>>339121307
Being a second class citizen is pretty shitty though
>>339115351
it's pretty simple when you break it down
>Illuminati think getting everyone augmented will allow them to control everyone via backdoors
>Invest in augmenting, use the media they own to push a pro-aug message and suppress anti-aug sentiment
>HR happens
>the backdoor is a much bigger vulnerability than they anticipated, one lone whacko nearly destroys modern society
>a lone aug not under their employ nearly exposes their whole shebang
>scrap the 'aug everyone' plan. use the media they own to push anti-aug propaganda. engineer the mechanical apartheid. the number of new people getting augmented dwindles to near nothing, and those who are augmented basically have the choice of working for the illuminati (and unknowingly receiving a killswitch) or dying in the streets because they can't afford their medicine, the price of which has been inflated by the Illuminati
>twenty years later, the only augs are in military or law enforcement, and owned by the Illuminati.
>>339115712
>First play through
>See her getting her shit ruined
>Thought it was impossible to save her, so left her
>Found out later I could have saved her
>Feels bad man
Let us sneak past bosses.
>>339123750
they said that's on the menu. the bosses where one of the most criticized parts of HR so they wanna get it right this time
>>339123368
>owned by the Illuminati.
Majestic 12
>>339124026
MJ12 are owned by the illuminati
>>339124189
Not by the time of DX1, no.
>>339123750
More important: let us spare and/or turn them, so we get a super squad of bros that've been used by the big bad and are all out for revenge, and give us an awesome.montage of everyone wrecking the living fuck out of him while X Gone' Give It To Ya plays in the background.
Hey so HR has been sitting in my library for a long time. I was wondering if you gt punished for not using stealth?
Not really in the mood to sneak around, kinda want to use the neat character progression tree to play more combat based. But i was wondering if would loose a lot of good shit unless i snuck through every level
Why did they waste money to make these videos that's not even in the game?
an>>339123368
But that's wrong. The illuminati was anti augmentation in HR. Darrow was acting completely rogue and implemented the backdoor himself.
>>339125397
If you want to maximize praxis points, nonlethal takedowns are the way to go, and that generally means stealth. You can still get plenty of praxis if you hack everything, though.
>>339125485
Marketing, retard.
>>339125397
protip: get the typhoon system as soon as you can
>>339112398
What a shame. I was thoroughly entertained and on the edge of my seat the whole game, and actually every time I replayed DX, too.
>in a single game
What's wrong with that? It still requires multiple playthroughs to get the whole picture, do everything, find every secret, datacube and message.
>plot
Kudos for using the term correctly, but if you want a thrilling conspiratorial thriller production then yeah you should probably turn to TV or whatever. It was an excellent plot entirely in the service of an branchinggame, and considering they started it off as some sort of cyberpunk James Bond thing I think it turned out great.
>I don't want to unravel M12, I want to watch them work.
O-okay? DX actually has plenty of exposition in that department, there's the sewer base, the LI facility where all the NSF you've been prodding get tortured to death, there's Paris, HK with Versalife, the Ocean lab, A51 and so on. But again it's a game so its structured around levels where the enemies are obstacles for the player to overcome or bypass. Still a weird comment considering all the dialogue and exposition that's present in DX. I can't think of a single other game where virtually every NPC, enemy or not, has unique dialogue or events, where next to nothing is relayed in cutscenes, and the played is trusted to piece everything together.
>MGS1 was infinitely superior,
That's a valid opinion, but it's just that, and I think it's weird to even compare the two, even if they both have high interactivity and are both approaches to 'immersive sims'.
I just hope you actually played the game instead of watching LPs of it, not that story (writing) isn't important but anyone who played DX would first and foremost be concerned with its gameplay mechanics and not need explaining that its plot is in service to that instead of the other way around as it is with lots of games.
>>339125557
The Illuminati wanted control over human augmentation. Darrow was supposed to make that possible but got jelly and killed 50 million people instead.
>>339123750
>>339124518
Same. The boss fights in HR were extremely jarring and pointless. I haven't played the DC but from what I understand the bosses still need to be eliminated and can't be skipped or put off or handled any other way, something they could actually improve upon the original game, although there it was handled beautifully and they weren't bullet sponges but actual characters.
>>339128415
>The boss fights in HR were extremely jarring and pointless
So just like the game itself?
I'm really looking forward to Mankind Divided and Dishonored 2.
Can't wait.
>it's another "we incorporated all the endings even though it doesn't make any sense" sequel
>>339128963
If anything, it looks like it's mostly from the self destruct ending.
>>339129334
Then how is Jensen alive? Or is that going to be a twist?
>>339129538
Trailer at 0:15 shows Jensen floating in the water while a dropship (perhaps Malik) is rescuing him. This is supposedly the destruct ending showing that Jensen survives because he gets rescued.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvSs5b6y-YM
>>339129757
what a bullshit copout that is
>>339128859
HR was decent fun imo, certainly much better than I expected of a DX reboot sequel/prequel. The boss fights however felt like something transplanted from a different game. Apparently they were, for some terrible and bizarre reason, outsourced to an entirely different developer, though that's no excuse.
>>339129953
least it's not as bullshit as Xcom 2's "lol nah you didn't actually win the war" copout
>>339129953
I'm sure you meantdeus ex machina?
looks ok
>>339129538
>>339129757
I think it's actually gonna be similar to Mass Effect 2's beginning. Interpol rescues him, revives him, upgrades him while he's under (probably including a killswitch or some other means of control) and then told him 'btw, all those new gadgets in you? Totally stuck there by Sarif all along and just turned off because 'your body couldn't handle it'
I expect a part where you have to trust some shady mechanic working for the terrorists to dig inside you to find and turn off whatever trump card your Interpol pals planned on using against you
>>339129334
All endings end with Panchaea being goofed.
The only game I'm buying this year
>deus ex is now about hamfisted social commentary instead of pulpy conspiracy narratives, philosophical questions about the will to power and the nature of god and machine
God, they could at least be a bit more subtle and not use such on the nose terms like "mechanical apartheid" and "transhumans"
>playing DX1
>escaping from the MJ12 facility
>clear out the lab of those majestic soldier niggers
>talking to the scientists, they seem like cool folk
>release the greasels anyway
>>339123502
Did you not play the first Deus Ex? You should have seen that shit coming.
>>339112504
Someone doesn't pay attention to Fox News.
Megan is one of the worst characters ever written and everyone who worked on DXHR should be ashamed
>>339106662
Who is the audience for live-action trailers?
>>339114502
>I loved Invisible War because it basically doubled down on the assertion that humanity cannot exist without some power structure guiding it down one path or another
That seems like a dumb reason to like something if you ask me
>>339132467
>there are people who jumped out the window instead of sticking with Paul
Watching him run out of ammo and chase down each and every UNATCO troop he could find with his combat knife was pretty gruesome. I mean, fucking hell Paul whatever happened to non-lethal takedowns? They're not even fighting anymore, they're running away from you.
>>339132747
Why? She behaved like most women would.
>>339132215
>transhumans
That's an actual term that existed before Deus Ex started using it
I swear if my boy Walton Simons doesn't at least have a cameo I will be furious
>>339132930
He'll just be mentioned in passing like Manderley.
>>339132809
>Watching him run out of ammo and chase down each and every UNATCO troop he could find
>not having his back and killing all the enemies for him
>>339132930
His appointment to FEMA was finalized within the week. Did you not even play Deus Ex? He's not going to be around for shit that happened 20 years in the past.
>>339132996
Hey now, I spend all this time treating the NSF with a gentle prod. The least I could do is extend the same courtesy to the UNATCO boys.
>>339132870
She was forced on the player as if she was really really important to Jensen which sullied the experience because I didn't give a single fuck about her, yet for some reason was supposed to see her as a really major character in Jensen's life.
I didn't even hate her, I just didn't give a fuck about her or any behind the scenes prior relationship with her, it was completely forced from minute 1 and every time Jensen bitched about her or other characters mentioned her to Jensen I just wanted to shout "LITERALLY WHO?"
>>339133098
Simons is appointed to FEMA then, but that doesn't mean he has no relevance to MJ12 or the conspiracy beforehand.
>>339123750
I would only like this if it was significantly difficult to sneak past bosses.
>>339128963
>Illuminati blocked out the transmission so the three upload endings don't matter shit
>Panchea was set to self destruct so press the button doesn't matter shit
wew lad
I really think it's going to be good.
Fuck you dumbasses. I'm no shill and I'd love a new deus ex. I'm trying HR again and it's fun. Take the time to sell weapons to the black market you idiots.
>>339134064
Yeah, they wrote themselves into a corner considering HR is a prequel and we know at the very least Darrow's message didn't get through and neither did Sarif's since the Illuminati is in control by the time the events of Deus Ex start. Nothing like Panchea was even alluded to in the original, either, so I don't know how the fuck they thought incorporating something like that was a good idea.
>>339132996
>not hiding in the panic room to conserve your health and ammo while Gregor Denton shows no mercy
>>339134619
Yeah, the writers for HR were complete nonsense. Now they don't know how to deal with it moving forward.
I was watching a couple trailers and it's just like "uh...didn't you already say this?"
They took some extra time though, and good writers can write out of a corner.
>>339135427
Oh wait, they're not good.
Ugh,,fuck?
