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Why do people think Bioshock is good?
It isn't
The first one was the best
I don't know why people think Bioshock is bad.
It isn't.
>>339081174
Why do people think OP is straight?
He isn't
>>339081174
>hehe look mom I'm fitting in xD!
It was very thematic,
it let you explore interesting locations,
it had interesting character,
the mechanics were competent enough,
the ideas explored were new to it's audience
(explored is a strong word for it),
and it had an unforgettable twist.
Make a game like that today and people would praise it just as they do bioshock.
>>339081174
You forgot to add the word Infinite to your statement. Simple mistake.
Why do underage people think they should post here?
They shouldn't.
I only played it recently. It's fine but it outstays it's welcome. I don't understand how it's supposed to have some super 2deep plot. Should have ended with the twist rather than carry on with more copy paste areas and enemies.
>>339081174
I barely remember something of that game so I don't know, I only know it's pretty forgetable.
>>339081174
It's pretty good
>>339081583
I agree, it went on too long and did nothing interesting with objectivity besides reference it.
It's overrated as all living fuck, but far from being bad.
At least it's not Infinite
It was a solid game with solid writing and gunplay.
Great atmosphere too.
>>339081174
It's good but not amazing.
The second improve everything expect the story and a couple of boring sections (walking outside)
Bioshock Infinite's hack who i don't want to mention because he's a faggot got mad at how Bio2's improved the game and decided to make everything even dumber and shit on it's story too by giving a ridiculous and especially no sense explation of something that Bio2 managed to give a logic reason. and it was a main topic of the story.
I picked it up again and gave it another shot about a month ago after dropping it a few years back.
It was ok, hated all the fetch quests (I know, part of the point and all but still), but the plot and characters were alright.
>>339082276
>part of the point and all but still
Please don't tell me you mean what I think you mean
2 felt like a weird russian bootleg of the first. It was an abomination.
>>339082201
>mfw somehow people hate Bioshock 2 and praise Infinite as a 10/10
>>339082165
>solid gunplay
Really?
All the gameplay was about as mediocre as you can get imo
>>339082482
You could do fun shit with the crossbow, it was better than Infishit, but worse than 2.
No glaring issues, pretty boring overall, 6/10 "solid"
>>339081174
>>339081174
nice setting, twist, atmosphere, locations and overall mechanics were decent
>>339081174
As someone who finished BioShock 1 and 2 recently and has yet to play Infinite, what makes people on /v/ think that Infinite is that bad?
>>339082365
The game made it pretty clear that you were simply a glorified lapdog without even knowing it.
Giving the player actual choice of direction, at least before the WYK episode, would've undermined the story.
The little sisters were an exception,since ATLAS let you choose either way
>>339082823
>it's bait not to like a game which has absolutely nothing going for it in terms of gameplay
I'm sure you love Uncharted too
>>339082201
fuck you i liked walking outside
It was something i kept wanting while playing bioshock 1 but didn't get
>>339081174
Why do people think Bioshock isn't good?
It is.
oh man oh man you faggot little bitches have no idea how much shitposting went on during that first year and a half when bioshock was on 360 but not PS3 yet
>>339081548
>>339082164
Why do people here hate Infinite?
Never played the first and second game, which might be why I don't understand, but I hadfunwith it.
>>339083138
I said boring, not frustrating.
I liked those at first and nice to see the scenery but after some doing a couple of times(i tried to replay the game like 3 or 4 times thanks to that memory problem fucker stopped crashing every 5 minutes)it could be more boring.
Story: BioShock 1 > BioShock 2 > BioShock Infinite
Combat: BioShock 2 > BioShock Infinite > BioShock 1
Overall gameplay: BioShock 2 > BioShock 1 > BioShock Infinite
We can all agree Bioshock 2 is the best, right?
>>339083314
There was a lot of straight-up false advertisement involved. The final game had content that was straight-up the opposite of what was said in trailers
>>339083305
>ME1 wasn't on PS3 until 2013 and only as part of a bundle
I really like the setting for the Bioshock games. Even Infinite.
>>339083314
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdNhwb7iuI4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yc15KgfNJsw
Why do people think X is good?
It isn't.
>>339083619
I don't think most people have any trouble with Infinite's setting. It's the story and the gameplay that are the worst in the series that people are typically upset about.
>>339081174
Why don't people think it be like it is?
It do
>>339083353
Put Infinites combat last and you've got a decent list.
Its gunplay was, by far, the worst in the series.
>>339083314
The story falls apart under even a tiny bit of scrutiny. I don't mean obscure complaints that only neckbeards care about, I mean it's obviously stupid after a while even by normie standards like the Star Wars prequels.
The combat was downgraded from Bioshock 1, let alone Bioshock 2 which had kickass combat.
The game was a hallway shooter whereas the previous Bioshock games had a decent amount of openness.
The big reveal trivializes the fuck out of the plots of the first two games and retroactively may affect your enjoyment of them.
>>339083619
Setting was fine.
It was the fucked up story into the end, shitloads of cut-content, shallowed combat ever, and small little thing that make me mad as fuck, was not something worth to save.
Fuck, i don't think anyone got mad at this change of setting at all.Calling it Bioshock was still dumb as fuck
>>339081174
Why do people with autism think their opinions are facts?
They arent
>>339083807
I dunno, man. Seemed a lot smoother than BioShock 1's, especially with the Vigors
>>339083920
>Calling it Bioshock was still dumb as fuck
But Columbia would hardly exist without Rapture
>>339081174
Bioshock is barely a video game beacuse it's literally impossible to lose, if you die you just respawn with all the enemies having the same amount of health meaning literally nothing you do matters
>b-but they patched in the ability to turn them off
doesn't matter, it's emblematic of the SO EPIC AND CINEMATIC fps games that took all the wrong ideas from half life 2, game isn't gonna let something like the player being shit keep them from witnessing the Epic And Intense storyline where a guy says would you kindly a bunch and that's really deep and stuff.
What's fucked too is that bioshock is easily the best one of the series, 2 and inifnite just make the cutscenes more annoying and plentiful and the gameplay is so simple (WAIT A MINUTE THAT CARD) that you don't even need vita chambers anymore unless you're paraplegic
what the fuck were they thinking with the vita-chambers
>>339084182
>WAIT A MINUTE THAT CARD
Someone explain this meme to me please.
I played Bioshock Infinite the whole way through and I don't remember anything about this.
>>339084182
Just because there's a light death penalty doesn't make it any less of a game.
>>339081174
it's the best singleplayer FPS I ever played
>>339084389
you should play more singleplayer FPS games then
take a look at the DOOM and Wolfenstein games
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>>339084114
Please tell me again storywise but all i know, it had a reference in the end and had a dlc story based on it.
They managed to make the sisters even uglier than Bio1's sisters, how the fuck they managed it.
>>339084291
Thinking a logic way to explain Respawn and getting away with it.
>>339084338
The first fucking thing you do in the game m8
>>339084378
yes it does you fucking cuckfag niggercuck, go play your shitty walking simulators you paid the jews your shekels for like a good goy
>>339084338
right at the beginning the secret code to get into the lighthouse is on the card and its a super simple code
the idea is that it represents how dumbed down infinite is compared to BIO1. Its an over exaggeration but whatever, the internet is a shitty place for shitlords
>>339084291
>>339084182
>he didn't turn off the vita-chambers
>>339084543
ouch, did I hit a nerve? Not every game has to be Dark Souls when you die.
>>339084463
tried them, just got bored very quickly. . I'm sorry
>>339084378
There's no death penalty at all, you respawn with all your shit and a slight health/mp loss
there's no point in messing around with exploring the level for items or setting up traps or taking advantage of enemy infighting because I can beat the game just as well by rushing into enemies swiging my wrench and then if I die just revive and take down the half dead enemy that did me in
>>339084476
if bioshock wasn't a babby game that autosaved every 5 minutes because you saw more of the Epic and Amazingly Deep Storyline you wouldn't have to respawn because you could just save and load like a big boy instead of having the game do everything for you
>>339084741
well, turn off vita chambers then?
>>339084623
oh now youve done it. the mature gamers playing mature games are about to rape you for implying that dark souls is a mature hardcore video game
>DO YOU EVEN DWARF FORTRESS BRO
>>339081174
>twist was ruined for me since everyone thought it was so fucking amazing and wanted to talk about it literally everywhere, because fuck spoilers
>terrible and clunky gunplay that feels outdated as fuck
>physics are fucking retarded above 30FPS
>that section in the greenhouse or whatever where it's just fetch quest after fetch quest, constantly back-tracking and just walking simulator after the enemies are dead (which is kind of good too because combat sucks anyways)
i never actually beat it. i tried three times to like it and get through it but i couldn't sucks because i loved the atmosphere and the lore behind it. finding the recordings and shit was nice. but i couldn't stand that shitty fucking gunplay and bullet sponge enemies. furthest i got was that shitty greenhouse fucking level. kept getting bored and sick of the gunplay and just gave up
>why do people have different opinions from me? they're wrong
>>339084782
That wasn't an option in the version of the game I played
Either way, the game is designed around it
>>339084886
That greenhouse is where I'm up to now and I agree, the gunplay is pretty bad and I don't see myself finishing.
>>339083737
>30 minutes long
>16 minutes long
Jesus Fucking Christ. And people actually suck this shit down? Who wants to watch these faggots pretend to be important and talk about a game for half a fucking hour? Either learn to get to the fucking point and condense your shit, or stop making unnecessarily long videos because you like hearing yourself talk. Wow.
>>339084886
I always always busy photographing everything in the greenhouse to steam roll the rest of the game
>kill the last boss in four wrench swings on the hardest difficulty
>>339084027
Two guns at a time with direct upgrades and no alternate ammo is mindless bullshit.
Gunplay was just filler in Infinite.
Vigors were only a trap or a projectile but there was no actual need for traps since the entire game was narrow corridors besides the arenas where you'd die if you stood still.
Bioshocks 1s 8 guns plus 3 ammo types and plasmids that interact with the environment, electricity, provided much more thought and satisfaction in combat.
>>339083353
the truth has been spoken
>>339084886
>physics are fucking retarded above 30FPS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKNRgX93TCc
>>339083109
How can you people be this retarded I don't get it,
>>339085112
yeah true it got added later iirc
you should replay the game though without them on
>>339083619
I actually would've liked another game with Infinite's setting but Levine chimped out when he saw all of the Elizabeth porn.
>>339085579
He shooted himself into the foot with the "i like to think her as my daugher"
NEVER. EVER. Do something like.
Now Elizabeth is like what, the main attraction of SFM porn?
>>339085267
that's nice. too bad gunplay still sucks, pacing gets fucked before the twist, and the only reason to really finish the game is because the twist and "WOAH MULTIPLE ENDINGS" which if you already know about it there's no point in replaying.
Bioshock made a lot of people ooh and aah the same way a lot of early 7th gen games did, because console gamers had never been exposed to these kinds of games before.
Pretty much all the big games that came out in 2006-2007 (Bioshock, Half-Life 2 ep 2, Halo 3, Oblivion, Metroid Prime 3, Super Mario Galaxy, etc.) We're dumbed down entries in their series that were in no way the pinnacle of their framchise or series but because so many kids were exposed to them and got a taste of what the series offered, they were celebrated by the masses. To this day we can see this effect still stands. Bioshock is more popular than system shock despite being less engaging and variable. Halo 3 is more popular than Halo CE and 2 despite being far shorter, easier, and technically a step backwards. Fallout 3 is more popular than any other Fallout game. Etcetera Etcetera.
So yeah, Bioshock is a good game, but it's celebrity status is simply due to exposure. Anyone that has played all the shock games knows it's not the best.
>>339083314
I like infinite more than 1 and 2
pls no bully
>>339085820
>Fallout 3 is more popular than any other Fallout game
How is this bad?
>stand next to rat
>press hit
>"miss"
>"miss"
I don't see what's to praise. Old RPGs were basically VN with tacked on skill-less chance based combat.
>>339086293
Never underestimate the delusion of nostalgiafaggots.
If they had their way, gaming would be dead.
>>339085814
Yeah, And i can't find a way to play it after playing Bio2's superior combat.
I wish someone could mod it into the game.
>>339086293
"Old" RPGs were actually role playing games. A true RPG starts with a character creation screen, urging you to fill out your character attributes then proceed to roll for attacks and make decisions based on your chances of success. It was all about decision making and whether to take risks or not.
Even the combat in older RPGs are calculated by invisible dice rolls.
What we have now are barely RPGs at all.
>>339086293
>>339086449
the combat in fallout 3 fucking sucks too
just two people fighting in fucking colonial tactics, standing 30 feet away from eachother and shooting until one of them falls over
it has less going on with it's FPS mechanics then fucking doom
Infinite is a warmer game and set in a place thats easier to be in. Rapture is neat in concept and looks cool (in some places, awful/awkward in other places) but ultimately is a very cold and unwelcoming place.
The characters you feel anything for in BIO1 is Sander Cohen, Atlas, Andrew Ryan, Tenenbaum and the little sisters (maybe Big Daddies as well)
Sander is cool but ultimately a freak and a sideshow
Tenenbaum is kinda of deep. Kind of hate her but kind of feel for her.
Little Sisters are pretty shallow. Cute kids mutated into gross kids.
Big daddies are just as shallow. Tortured guys stuck in suits whose only connection is the little sisters.
Andrew Ryan is hard to feel for necessarily but hes a big personality and really gives BIO1 its spine. His voice actor is pretty great.
Atlas is a thug but he has the best voice actor arguably so he gets the best performance. Fontaine is garbage though.
In Infinite though you can feel for Elizabeth, especially in BaS. You enjoy the banter/hijinks from the Luteces. Daisy makes for a shallow character but has a good voice actress and she gets fleshed out pretty nicely in BaS. Comstock is easy to hate but Booker is someone I enjoyed feeling more and more pity for. Super pathetic and constantly forced to suffer, even if you hate Troy Baker surely you can look past him and enjoy the character's story.
its not , it is not . the broken industry wants it to be so it is.
>>339081174
I agree. Only the first one was worth playing.
>>339083109
>comparing bioshock to uncharted
opinion discarded.
You're a gun-toting mage, or spell weilding gun slinger/demoman/sniper what the fuck ever.
Have fun with your meme opinion, but the game is a stand-out fps in a sea of COD clones
>>339083016
>>339083016
The upgrade system is retarded and can fuck you late game when it dumps a set of functionally identical weapons that you have to re-upgrade. The 2 weapon limit really hurts most combat scenarios since there's often ammo for weapons you don't have forcing you to pick up unupgraded weapons just to keep shooting. Enemies are horrible bullet sponges to a ludicrous degree. They cut exploration entirely, the game is 100% linear corridor shooting now. The story is flimsy and shits the bed so hard it turns into an unintentional comedy. It's also got regenerating health like Halo except it isn't even balanced with the way combat works like Halo is (which uses a rock-paper-scissors model for weapon damage relative to shields and health, none of which is present here). The level design is pretty awful even for a corridor shooter, 1999 mode is pure bullshit, and they even ignored all the gameplay improvements of BS2 while stripping down from the first game even more. There is literally less you can do overall in terms of combat. Vigors don't make logical sense in the setting and literally 80% of them have the literal exact same use with a different skin, unlike the multitude of functions in plasmids from the first two.
Overall it was a straight downgrade in every single way.
>>339081825
Combat is more ass than Jennifer Lopez circa 2013
>>339085176
>adhd child
>>339088795
Well Bioshock 2 was done by 2K Marine.
The faggot creator see it an abomination, no wonder he ignored it while making the game and proccesed to shit on it on the DLC.
>>339083016
Did you remember Bioshock 1's combat?
It was pretty barebore, slow, cluncky but still somewhat entertaining right?
Infinite has a dumber fucking combat:
2 weapon limit
Upgrades weapons that might actually fuck your shit instead of making it easier
Fucking health regeneration
Vigor are completely useless expect a VERY VERY few
Enemies are bullet-sponges, especially the bosses.
1999 Mode is just some top tier retarded quality choice:Everyone is a bullet-sponge expect you.
The game is a just a long corridor with a very few doors leading a stowage room with a health/mana/weapon upgrade inside.
They ignored every improvement done by Bioshock 2 by that i mean EVERY. SINGLE. ONE.
If you really want to hurt yourself, play it on Easy and see how much shit was wasted on it.
It also full of little things that will make you go mad as fuck.
Like important NPCs don't blink(especially in the first area where you are supposed to see a city "full of life" but all it was show were stand NPCs doing nothing and not blinking), midget humans transformed into babies, caskets of fruits are full on 2D etc
