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This game is fucking dead https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAu bpv_5DYM
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This game is fucking dead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAubpv_5DYM
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At least the event emote is nice.
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>>339024420
Did you finally realize?
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What does the game niddhog have to do with final fantasty?
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>>339024680
Despair for subs
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Okay, so, what the hell is this game? Really?

Is it a WoW clone? Is it boring as fuck?

That looks like a fuckton of content, though I'm not really familiar with what it all is. The game looks super chill. If I had infinite free time it looks like something I might want to play.

And, I don't know. I think it looks pretty nice. Maybe it's different when you're actually playing.
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>>339024998

The new patch looks good. OP is just a sour WoW baby.
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>>339024420
was it even alive to begin with?
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>>339024420
The sub is expensive as fuck. I wouldnt mind if they charged us based on the time we actually spend in the game, but nope. The sub still ticks even when youre not playing the game. Someone who has a job couldnt spend too much time on it, you subbed for like 3 months but because of work you could only play a total of a few weeks or so.

Tl:dr game is a shit investment
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>>339024420
are you trying to get me to play the game again anon?

because that all looks cool
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ffxiv is great until you reach the end of the MSQ. Then it becomes the most boring game of token grinds and autistic relic quests.
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>>339025606
you don't have to get the relic weapon
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>>339024998
TL;DR single player MMO with tons of RNG on minigames (crafting/gathering, but able to get over it if you invest tons of money or time, or both)

Game itself contain many flaws. Something unique (at least for me) is locking every-fucking-thing relevant behind Main Scenario Quest (or main story quest, it goes through Lv1 to Lv60). Basically you are forced to go through every MSQ, it makes you visit every single update ever released (this is cool in paper, but bad on MMO because its not optional)
Repetitive music/bgm. I don't mind repetitive bgm on actual FF games but this shit is different, on a side note this is the least "massively-multiplayer" MMO I have ever played.
I'd say give it a try with the trial but keep on mind most servers are half-dead, please ignore salty people like >>339025042 because they refuse to believe the game follows the same threadmill and its only worth to play 1-2 weeks every 3-4 months and sperg "WoWfuggee" everytime they got a chance because that's their boogeyman. If they actually wanted to pander wowfugees then they should have fucked up the names on DE/FR versions as well. Fucking living bots.
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>>339024420
Those boss tits.

What's with them and designing gigantic women as the bosses of the 24man raids?

Between Cloud of Darkness, Echinda, and that thing I'm not sure how much more I can take.
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>>339025658
You get the choice of:

8 weeks of Alexander raiding, no ability to speed this up

or

Autistic-level grinding

Japan is really fucking into grinding

AND FOR WHAT, THERE'S NOTHING ELSE TO DO EXCEPT ERP IN THE GOLD SAUCER
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>>339025658
You don't have to do all the optional content either. Basically as soon as you clear 3.2 there's nothing to do. Even ERP is optional.
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>>339025718
>inb4 "get every class to 60 245 every gearset get every single achievement build a time machine to unlock 1.0 achievements too nigger you are the reason this game is dead!!!!!!"
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Regarding the MSQ, it's really boring and generic, and everyone dies but doesn't. You will literally not give a single shit about any of these people, because they're trying to give you yet another go-across-the-world-then-come-back quest when Linkpearls are canon in their world.

Tataru a best though
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If there is one thing Final Fantasy does right, it's the soundtrack. Shit gave me goosebumps.
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>>339025718
I work and I played this game at the same time. Just didn't renew my sub yet because I wanted to wait for more stuff I was interested in.
I would just do 1-2 dungeons a day for the week and you should have enough for good gear.
PvP is insanely fun if you're into it. There is also Chocobo Racing. If you can't get into any of the raiding I recommend Trials. Any of the Extreme trials are fun. If you've already done everything you think is fun to you in the game then thats it.
Just wait for more stuff you're interested in and come back later.
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>>339025805
I believe is safe to say they tried to make every irrelevant character relevant in one way or another, reminds me of Gantz or when Mirai Nikki's manga started going downhill
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>>339024420
>That bit straight out of the opening cinematic with that battle on the bridge and the guy walking in the opposite direction of the fleeing soldiers
>Ozma going full rubik's cube
>that super dragonfire dive at the end

Too bad its still like a week and a half away.
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>>339025784
>build a time machine to unlock 1.0 achievements
I wish I could do this. I've only really heard bad things about it but I'd still like to give it a shot.
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I quit when they added 40 man daycare.

It's a shame they never made trade skills worthwhile or improved cross classing. I really enjoyed playing through the first time, but all that time spent at level cap made me realize that FFXIV has far too many classic signs of MMO cancer: Horrible korean levels of grinding for the smallest upgrades, classes having one single optimal build and maybe two skill rotations at best, and dungeon queue from anywhere.

Fucked right off and never looked back.

Also, FFXIV general is the worst I've ever been to.
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>No preview of next Warring Triad trial
REEEEEEE
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>>339029857
There's no Warring Trial in this patch.
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>>339029916
Why not
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>>339029945
Because there's not nigga just deal with it.
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My server is still packed and it's still a fun as fuck game. OP is either a blizzard shill or just made at nothing.
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>Nidhogg's final form is draconic Estinien
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>>339029565
There ain't no 40 man daycare in XIV.
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>>339030169
I'm kind of pissed that they constantly spoil the phase shift/final form in the trailers. Hopefully we're gonna get a sick final phase theme. Sokai never disappoints me.
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>>339024420
>Still no playable Moogles
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>>339030249

Seems like they're using Dragonsong. Which doesn't really have the same oomph Answers did at Bahamut in my opinion.
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>>339025491

normie? ;-)
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>>339030280
Someone managed to snatch a new BGM from the Live Letter, it might be that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVSKhYJWf30&feature=youtu.be&t=23m17s

Sounds a bit too tame to be Nidhogg's final phase theme though
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>>339025690
>singleplayer
>MMO
That's called a "Public RPG".
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>>339024420
Looks pretty fun
but then I remember
>looooooong global cooldown
>boring classes
and don't want to go back anymore
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>>339029565
Korean levels of grinding?

Nigger, if you do one daily dungeon every day you can do the hardest possible raid content.

This game only has shit loads of grinding for completely irrelevant shit.
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Why are we fighting Hraesvelgr?
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>>339030925
Family drama.
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>>339030925
Probably to get some sort of blessing before we fight Niddhog, his brother.
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>>339029945
Blame Double Nidhoggs
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>>339029945
Because they're saving that last fight for 3.5 where it'll be no content since the expac will be right around the corner.
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>>339031210
2.x patches added 6 trials though
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>>339031410
They maybe had some already ready before 2.0 came out and they kept them for the patches.
Unfortunately I don't think they can do much about it unless they get more resources or they sacrifice part of the content in favor of more trials.
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>>339031663
2 of those trials never got extreme versions tbf.

I hear double nidhogg is getting an extreme version + weapons.
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FFXIV was a mistake, should've just made FFXI-2.
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>>339031752
They did, it was called FFXIV 1.0 and it was a massive blunder.
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>>339031752
They did. It's called Dragon Quest X, and you're never getting it.
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>>339029565
I barely played Heavensward and just quit I got so bored. Made it to 55 playing a drag and after running on my slow ass mount to every zone and constantly being murdered by mobs because I didn't stop and kill them I just couldn't take it anymore. Really wish you just had to find the little green orbs around each zone to fly...would have made things so much faster than
>complete every quest in the zone
>find the hidden ones
>now unlock and complete the dungeon
>there you can fly
>but now there's nothing to do...and I can only fly in this zone...
>go to another zone and do the same thing so that place can feel empty too

Took up DK and gave up on that too after about the thousandth time doing the exact same fates the same leves the same guildhests. Considered making a new character but realized I couldn't even be a DK if I did which the game doesn't tell you until it's too late.
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>>339025690
>implying WoWfugees aren't the majority of people playing this game
look reddit or the official forum
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If FFXIV went GW2 style and it was a one time 60$ purchase to play (not counting the expansions) would you be down to play it? Honestly the only thing stopping me from resubbing is the sub fee. It's some archaic shit.
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I think my biggest issue with the game is it punishes you for taking breaks. Haven't played in a few patches? Guess what, you gotta plow through all that content you missed in a row to do any of the new things. Which wouldn't be bad, if it wasn't for the fact the game reuses so many things and if it wasn't super predictable. All the content seems to just rotate between "someone is possessed by an ancient evil" and "the beast tribes are doing their thing again".

When Heavensward came out I had been unsubbed for about 6 months. It took about 2 weeks of playing a couple of hours a night with friends to get caught up to be able to even start the new expansion. The whole time I was redoing the same few dungeons and stuff because some quest told me to. I can't even imagine coming into the game as a fresh player now and having to do the entire base game and all of Heavensward before you can do anything else. Some of the content you're forced to do is raids. Hardly anyone was queuing for old raids even then, and the ones that were were not exactly the best players.
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>>339032507
>I hate to play catch up when I haven't played in awhile :(
gee who would have thought
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The art design has gone to shit since HW released.
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Edda confirmed for returning in Palace of the Dead
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>>339024420
Shieet this content might even last us 3 days instead of the usual 1 or 2.
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Catchup dungeons don't look like shit for once, but I haven't played since 3.1
>tfw you're still under ilvl 170
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>>339033680
You can get some sweet i220 crafted gear if you're not poor.
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>>339033068
I like it. It's not as FF-ish as ARR but it has its own style. Kinda remind me of Amano's style for some reason.
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thunder snail snek
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>>339029565
This is easier than Korean grinding

There is no 40 Man dungeon

However I agree that virtually every patch after 3.0 is stale and appealing only to faggot casual crafters
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>>339025491
how poor do you have to be to think $12 a month is expensive

I make that money in one hour
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>>339024420
I had lots all interest in the game after HW. Had high hopes for the expansion with the promises of new experimental content from the devs, but was let down hard. It doesn't help that all my friends and static had also stopped playing around October-November, so there's absolutely no reason to go back
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>that ffix battle theme
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>>339032507
>I can't even imagine coming into the game as a fresh player now and having to do the entire base game and all of Heavensward before you can do anything else.

I'm doing this, currently 20 quests into Heavensward content. Yeah, just getting there took 110 hours. At times it's a bit tedious but I generally enjoy main scenario quests. Queuing is okay, sometimes I need to wait 15 mins for the less popular stuff.
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>>339032679

Playing catchup isn't the problem, it's that it's boring and repetitive catchup. 6 months unsubbed was maybe 3 content patches, it shouldn't take 2 weeks with friends to clear all that so you can get into the new stuff. 2 weeks is enough time to hit the cap in WoW and GW2 and start doing max level content.
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>>339024420
I would play it if it wasn't fucking subscribsion based. I like the Guild Wars mechanic of buy the game and you're done. then pay for more expansions. I'm pretty sure they have a cash shop in the game like every other MMO anyways so I don't think they would be losing money.
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>>339034942
I don't even play F2P games anymore because it's full of shitters. Especially Russians since I live near the country.
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>>339024998
It's only worth playing for the pretty areas and the dress up. I gave it 250 hours and still didn't finish the story quests. They're that fucking tedious and terrible. Find a friend and play at your leisure. It's at least worth the time to download and play the trial IF YOU HAVE A FRIEND TO PLAY WITH. If not, well you're fucked, because as another anon said, It's literally a single player MMO that has gone out of it's way to prevent you from ever having to interact with other players. Combine that with an exceptionally antisocial player-base and you're gonna have a bad time.
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How the fuck does WoW still manage to be the most visually appealing MMO?

TERA, FF, BD, ESO all just seem to blur together. Only Wildstar and Firefall managed to look unique but were horribly shit.
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>>339035352
>How the fuck does WoW still manage to be the most visually appealing MMO?
It doesn't...
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>How the fuck does WoW still manage to be the most visually appealing MMO?
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>>339035352
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>>339035352
>How the fuck does WoW still manage to be the most visually appealing MMO?
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>>339035352
>How the fuck does WoW still manage to be the most visually appealing MMO?
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>>339035879
And the sad part is, no other MMO can top this shit design. It baffles me.
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>>339035352
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>>339036104
>all that clipping and flat textures
Jesus christ
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>>339035879
>So I told Gul'dan to use his own skull for power
>And he actually did it the madman
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>>339026082
So it was Ozma? Damn they gave the old blob a polish.
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>>339036080
The other sad part is that nobody can top your shit taste.
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>>339024420
dead game
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>>339036586
I gave my dick a polish.
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>>339036804
>everyone afking in a capital city
empty world, dead game
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>>339036804
I'd get like 15 fps there
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>>339036804

those are bots?
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>>339036804
More lively than my dead server on WoW.

pls help
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>>339036804
>bot city
>proving anything
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>>339024420
King of surprised that Estinihogg doesn't seem to be reusing any of the mechanics from the Aery fight. I guess they thought Crimson Price and Sable Price but actually dangerous would be too much to deal with on top of everything else new.
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>Do the Golden Saucer event
>Oh fuck a murder
>Find clues neat
>You can do it without finding all the clues
>Some are necessary for getting the true ending
>lol its fake poisoning, just like 2.55
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>>339036880
>>339037348
>>339037441
>>339037576

>y-your game is d-dead!
>p-please come back to WoW we have demon hunters
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>>339037723
I am literally saying that my fucking WoW server is dead you and that this game seems to have more active players, you fucking retard
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>>339037348
>>339037576
Most of them are in FCs and standing around a group of people or near the trading boards.
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>>339036804
Only two people other than the player character are moving. Way to prove his point

>>339037723
Would it make you feel better if I said that all MMOs currently on the market are shit, WoW and FFXIV included? EVE might be an exception, but good luck getting into it as a new player
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>>339037835
No most of them are bots that craft or spam gold sell shouts 24/7 fuck off. Go look at the actual end-game city and see how dead it is.
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>>339037915

Extremely untrue.
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>>339037915
Which unsuccessful mmo did you like that you're so mad about XIV having people playing the game?
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Mithra > Miqo'te
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>3 roulette dungeons.
>A treasure dungeon.
>A 24 man raid.
>A trial that looks really good and has a vocal track.
Good enough for me.
I'm gonna stay subbed.
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>>339038649

2 roulette dungeons, 1 treasure dungeon and 1 endless dungeon (in 3.35)
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>tfw you only sub for story and Hildibrand

Part of the reason why I raid and why I'm not going to stay subbed for more than a month post 3.0, until they start packing in the raid content per patch again
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>>339039453

There has been the same raid content per patch in every patch since 2.0 though.
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>>339039132
>>339038649
Too bad all dungeons are the same trash-boss routine that was unchanged since 2.0
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>>339039132
Hullbreaker, Palace of the Dead and Sohr Khai.
That looks like 3 Roulettes to me. Which one of these is delayed to 3.5?
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>>339039508

Palace of the Dead is the deep dungeon thing they've talked about and will be in 3.35.

You get level synched to 1 at the beginning, can't bring your own gear and get stronger as you progress through it. You can save your progress every few floors.
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>>339039487
2.0 to 2.55 saw repeatability for nearly every raid. People had multiple reasons to run garuda ex or CT for example
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>>339039631

But it's the same now?

Every odd patch is an 8 man hardcore raid and every even patch is a casual 24 man one. Every patch gets an ex primal (well not technically a primal this time) that drops weapons and a rare mount. The 24 man drops upgrade items for tome gear.
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>>339039612
Oh well. That's still a ton of content for an odd number patch.
No reason to unsub.
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>>339039765
>Every odd patch is an 8 man hardcore raid and every even patch is a casual 24 man one

Got those backwards but my point still stands.
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>>339024420
you can't lie though that the trailers are really good
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>Bought this piece of shit game on PS3 when it came out and only played for the free month
>Found out there were free weekends
>Can't remember my login details because Square Enix makes you jump through hoops just to make an account so my password isn't one of my few usual ones
>Forgot about that token login bullshit that makes it extra hard for me to care about playing

XIV is a disaster.
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>>339024420
>Ozma isn't even the final boss of Weeping City of Mhach
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>>339039976
>using a login token
lol dumbass
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>>339039976
>XIV is a disaster because I'm a dumb faggot
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>>339040153
That's some shit right there, what a waste
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can't wait to beat the main story quests in a hour and then complete all 3.3 has to offer in a weekend.
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>>339040228
>>339040247
Enjoy your dead as fuck game because creating an account and logging into this game is the end game boss itself. :^)
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>>339040398
At least I'm not a shitposting fag.
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>>339025491

I never understood this argument. Its been around since sub based mmos have been a thing. Its like 50 cents a day, and yet people still complain. When you cost it out compared to other forms of entertainment for money spend vs time mmos will almost always come out on top.

If you can afford to have internet you can afford a sub based mmo. I don't understand how people can say 15 bucks a month is a lot of money.
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>>339040228
not him, but there is a way to not using them? iirc you can't login if your account seen as vulnerable and don't have that token app
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>>339024420
>that tiger
that better be a mount
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>>339040464
it's not even 15 dollars a month, entry sub is $13 a month

if you look on g2a or some keyreseller sites, you can find 60 days gametime codes for like $20
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I've just realised that I can't stop playing this game on account of the story.

I just need to see how it ends.
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>>339040610

It'll never end.

Zodiark is set up to be the absolute ultimate uber final boss and he requires 14 calamities to be revived, we still have 7 more to go.
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>palace of the dead

WAS THAT FUCKING EDDA AT THE END?
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>>339039490
Meh I still like it since I only get to play a few hours a week due to work, not being a NEET helps when you play this kind of game.
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>>339024420
I don't play anymore and i don't plan to come back, but damn i wish some other MMO's like WoW would have animations this good, and environments this orgasmic. The raid looks absolutely fantastic visually.

Boss animations in FFXIV have always been fucking fantastic and way more intuitive than in WoW
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>>339024420

>that part when the Warrior of Light walks towards Nidhogg while the other soldiers flee like in the cinematic

Fuck that gave me goosebumps.
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>>339040610
That's basically why I resub; that and all the other misc stories like the class quests. I've gotten too invested in my character to bail now.
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>>339039976
Just create a new account, they are upping the free trial time up to lv35 now, then if you really really like it, just pay for ARR which is cheap as fuck everywhere and i you really really liked that buy heavensward which is cheap as fuck everywhere too
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>Niddhog Extreme is ilvl 220 minimum

It's gonna be Thordan Ex all over again, nothing but wipes.
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>>339040530
I don't have a login token. I didn't evne know it was a thing.
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>>339040530
>using a login gimmick

I never had one and I log in fine. >>339040398
>>339039976
Is just an illiterate fuck
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im going to be pissed if the deep dungons doesn't have a zombie wiegraf fight somewhere in it
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>>339024420
You know your game is dead when they announce Flowerpots as a major content feature.
What's next? A selfie camera?
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>>339040610
Paying 12$ for each patch or a couple of patches seems like a good deal for me, I have not subbed back since 3 months now but I'm definitely subbing back, now I can get some good old MSQ while I queue for old dungeons, I'll get my money's worth and have fun
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>>339032507
old raids are poppin' now bruv
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>>339041202
DON'T GIVE THEM WoW IDEAS
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>>339032507
I literally just ran 3 consecutive runs of crystal tower with different people as a DPS, what the fuck are you talking about
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>>339041202

The flowerpots actually enable people without a house or gardening rights in their FC to have access to a lucrative money maker only like 5% of the playerbase ever had a chance to do.
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>>339032507
the biggest issue with the game is that there isn't enough midcore content and the vertical gear progression is making the content stale
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>>339041334
You must be on a high pop server group or one that cares about old content, famalan

>tfw aether
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>>339041202
>What's next? A selfie camera?

That was a major content feature in 3.1.
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>>339031132
Not even. You're trespassing on what used to be Ratatoskr's domain
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>>339041202
It's weird that they advertise fucking flowerpots but don't advertise the new Anima weapon and Warring Triad quests (even if there's no trial).
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>it's a "do this shit content everyday or else" episode
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>>339041421
This

Nazi guild officers often don't want to share the gardening rights with people, and it's a moneymaker that only a few have access to due to shit design
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I need more fanservice.
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>>339041656
>Ozma with the ff9 battle theme
>Ymir
Anything else?
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>>339041848

FF4-style pig costume
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>>339041656
i wont tower of zot
at least let the magus sisters be part of a hildebrand quest
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>>339041848
Junctions.
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Will someone ever top this madman?
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>>339041951
Magus Sisters might be saved for Sharlayan as their primal
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>>339041464
Not sure about my server group but I'm in Excal
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How do I get the true ending in this gold saucer quest?
SPOON FEED ME
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I AM VENGEANCE INCARNATE
I AM KNEE DOC
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>>339041656
If you want blatant fanservice play this instead

https://youtu.be/cecuCfLSOVg
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>>339041848
>nobody noticed that the last boss is Calofisteri from FF5

fucking normie newfags get out REEEEEE
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>>339042280

Interesting
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>>339042071
the entirety of Alexander OST is garbage
Sephirot is hot garbage
Phase Change Shiva is garbage
Titan is grating as fuck

Meanwhile Nobuo Uematsu continues to knock it out of the ballpark with Answers.
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>>339042280
>normie

Why did people stop saying normalfags and started saying normies instead? Is it offensive to them or something?
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>>339025690
this is why i dropped this garbage game
couldnt progress together with my friends what the fuck was the point
sad part is the combat is on point
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>>339042387
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>>339042280
Final Fantasy started at 7
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>>339042389
shut up you normie
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>>339042387
>disliking Enjoy the Metal
Uplander pleb detected
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>That Final Steps of Faith song
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>>339042538
Stop using normie, normalfag.
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>>339042165
Get all the clues
Say the the beverage was poisoned after it was served.
Say it was the Sabotender who put the poison in the glass
Say the lalafell lost too much MGP
Say he killed the elezen because Roland ordered him in exchange for money
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>>339042573

Doesn't fit Nidhogg as much as Answers did Bahamut.
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>>339042454
You played the PS1?!
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>>339024998
It depends if you find the areas comfy and the music good enough, yea there is a shit ton of content for a new player to do and if you need people for a dungeon just ask for a party and people will help newbies, that until you reach cap of course, once there you are on your own and people will expect you to pay at your best or will bitch.
I'd say IF you are curious play the trial, the max level you are allowed is 35, which will give you a nice look at what the game has and could offer
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>>339042071
Mizuta's Final Fantasy XI music beats everything from XIV.
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can we all take the time to appreciate how god tier Heavensward's soundtrack is?
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>>339041202
>What's next? A selfie camera?
>implying they didn't already add one
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>mfw 1.23 was better than any ARR patch

You all did this to yourselves because you're a bunch of fucking casuals.

Do not complain about the game you wished for
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>>339024998
It plays like Tortanic; don't bother
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>>339040610
Just in it to see what classic FF thing they'll bring back. I like XIV as a theme park but I think the story is easily forgetable and none of the characters in XIV will ever be memorable like some of the more iconic ones throughout the series. No FF fan is going to ever mention Haurchefant as their favorite character.
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>>339042856
I've found 2.X's to be better overall, but HW's has its moments, definitely. The entire soundtrack is basically ear sex, though, so saying 2.X>3.X doesn't mean much when they both give you a fantastic orgasm.
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>>339042862
That's a femroe doing /point and the camera pushed up against a wall.
We don't have a selfie camera.
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So what mmo is the best right now? I REALLY want to play one but FF14 feels like shit. Archeage? Wildstar? If you had to pick one to play which would it be?
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>>339042629
You know there will be two parts to that fight, right? So there will two sets of music.
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>>339042934
I never understood the Haurchefant appeal.
He's literally a creepy stalker.

I mean it's great that he helped you and sad that he sacrificed himself for you, but it felt like he was sniffing me every time I had a cutscene with him.
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>>339042980

The /icam command and group pose don't have twitter integration but it's basically the same idea.
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>>339043003
Rift maybe. It's been a long time since I played it but it was a pretty good MMOs. The landscapes were beautiful.
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>>339043003
ff14 plays good at max level but shit at low levels

if you can stomach that, it's the best MMO right now.
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>>339042934
I actually think the game as a whole is second only to FFVII, story included.
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>>339042616
I don't even understand it logically goes to from the lalafell to Roland. There was no indication that Roland was involve with the lalafell at all. I figured the lalafell was the killer since he was the only one small enough to fit into the suit even though I couldn't figured out how we the players was suppose to know that the motive for the lalafell was he was broke.
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>>339039490
What do you want? Fucking jumping puzzles?
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>>339042901
TELL ME WHY BREAK TRUST

WHY TURN THE PAST TO DUST
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>>339043146
Guess you didn't play XI
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>>339042934
I miss Nael, she was my favorite
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>>339042901
>1.23
LOL
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>>339042280
it's not Ozma so who gives a fuck
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>>339042280
I started FF with 6, are you buttfrustrated anon?
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>>339043219
What did it do better over XIV?

Or is it as archaic as Phantasy Star Online?
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>>339043257
And?
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>>339043165
In the Triple Triad square you can find a piece of paper. It's basically some guy called R. asking for a guy called K. (the lalafell's name begins with K) to kil the elezen. If you talked to the lalafell previously he tells you he lost all of his MGP after gambling too much.
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>>339042980
And here I was thinking everyone in this thread would be a gullible idiot
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>>339043357
FFXI was a shitty Everquest clone
PSO is a diablo clone
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>>339043003
The best RIGHT now is FFXIV hands down, yes it has it's up and downs but overall is very enjoyable if you take it slow, high lvl content is top tier too. I personally don't like grinding much so when I reached cap and went through all of the dungeons I quit and then came back eac 2-3 patches , to a new player you will definitely get your time and money worth, there is a free demo out too
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>>339043165
>>339043376

Also forgot to say that R. tells K. that he'll give him a shitload of money if he manages to kill the victim.
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>>339042387
>hating on Brute Justice

this really snaps my whizzybooms
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>>339043376
>>339043460

The R could have meant anyone though.
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>>339043003
ffxiv is easily the most chill and content heavy mmorpg i ever played, just try out the free trial
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>>339043357
A better question would be what did it not do better than XIV?

Maybe jumping?

It had a better story. It had a better leveling system that actually made you play with other people (I know, crazy). It had better music. It had better end game content. It had a horizontal progression approach instead of vertical like every WoW clone today.

I can go on forever
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>>339043393
The only thing FFXI had in common with EQ was that it required a party to level past low levels.

Everything else was much different in all approaches
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>>339043053
tumblrinas and pixiv fujos

pic related is my face when he is kill
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>>339043524
Yup but some other guy says that the elezen was on a winning spree. I assume the Gold Saucer was losing too much money because of him and Roland wanted to end it.
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>>339043257

That Black Shroud is amazing.
I hope they add it back, aswell as all the other 1.0 maps.
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>>339043672
>copypasted maze
>amazing
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>>339024420
How do you make youtube black like this?
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>>339043515
That's all?

Anon, it really should whirlygig your fizzlesparks while crackbanging your whizzybooms.
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>>339043672
2004 Bobbys can't comprehend an MMO zone that isn't a giant circle.
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>>339043515

Fuck you. That complete switch of mood made me die because I couldn't stop laughing and staring at my screen in disbelief. I didn't realize the fucker could actually wipe us.
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>>339042934
>>339043053
For me Shiva's death carried much more impact than Haurchefant's, who I didn't give a single fuck about.
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>>339043716
only on PS4â„¢
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>>339043716
I use this https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/magic-actions-for-youtube/abjcfabbhafbcdfjoecdgepllmpfceif?hl=en
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>he plays a meme race
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>>339043728
>Draws circle
>Copy pastes it 400 times

1.0 fag crack me up
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Thanks for posting that trailer, I've been unsubbed but that brought me back in. This is the most amount of content I've seen in an update since 3.0, good signs, good times.
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>>339043971
meme race has best stats and hitbox in the game
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>had to rma my gpu
>not sure if my integrated graphics can keep this game above 10 fps

I really want to play some more but my sub ran out and I'm not even sure if I can run it atm
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>>339043916
Nooooo speaking of which PS3 support dropped when?
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I´m not coming back. It´s always the fucking same.

>New dungeons are nice the first time then you get tired of doing them every night because of EX roulette.
>new 24 man event it´s fun and hard the first time then you won´t want to touch it because it fucking long and easy. You end doing it every monday at night.
>main story quests just last you a day
>ex primals is just a bunch of people wipping after the first try and getting mad is you never watched a video. Just raid groups clear it.
>a bunch of extra content that you just are going to touch once.

You just get bored of doing the same every fucking time.

I know people are going to come with the "But I enjoy it for x reason" but you know that everything is like this.
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>>339044014
Odd patches are catchup patches, so you should be able to easily hit 240 this patch.

However, 3.2 probably had more content as a whole.
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>>339044140

It depends. If there's still a lot of people playing on the PS3 SE won't drop it so easily.
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>>339044019
I want to impregnate a meme race.
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>>339032614
So Lizardskins really do come from dangly voidsent scum?
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>>339044207
That's nice.
I want to fuck an Ascian.
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>>339044149
This. Also these jews have deleted my house and none of the people I know play the game anymore. Why even bother?
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>>339044149
doing the same shit everytime gets boring, even your favorite food will taste like shit if you eat it everyday. Just do it once and don't play until next patch, that's what I'm doing at the moment, it's not like this is the only thing I'm allowed to do in my free time
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>>339042280
No one picked up that boss. It's pretty sad, not even official forums knew who Ozma was either.
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>>339034667
The expansion added almost nothing new or interesting, and just rehashed the exact same formula as ARR, only with less content now because almost everything in the game is obsolete, and even the obsolete stuff is unfun now because you can unsynch faceroll it in 2 minutes.
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>>339043534
The hell is horizontal progression?
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>>339044412
>things like getting a relic/gear or seals for nice stuff makes you spam the same stuff
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>>339032507
I think the biggest turn-off for new players (at least what I feel) is that the quests in-between Primals (like FUCKING TITAN) are so goddamn draining. You hit Coerthas and you're right there, nearly at end-game Vanilla content and you just want to fucking die.

That said I still want to get back in even though I have literally nothing to go back to. No FC, no friends (unless I server transfer), nothing.
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>>339044474
Think FFXI where you don't up your ilevel every 3-6 months, rather you get sidegrade gear that has a different utility.

It worked in XI because you gear swapped constantly. In XIV implementing horizontal progression would require re-adding the stats they removed from 1.0 and expanding materia.
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>>339031825
Because it was nothing like XI and threw out everything that made the game good while adding more awful bullshit that should never have existed.
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>>339044438
Lack of content aside, HW managed to make the gear even boring than before by neutering secondary stats to the point there's <1% difference between two gear sets of the same ilvl. That's not even touching the appearance which very few I know have found appealing
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How would you make FFXVII Online?
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>>339044207
please don't be so lewd
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>>339044543
>Was part of one of the top FCs that stresses attendance
>On good relations
>FC suddenly falling apart for no reason hard and FC leader angry about all these active people disappearing with no warning
>Had to stop FF14 completely myself due to real life trouble myself
>Scared to log back in because one of my old FC mates might PM me
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>>339044548
>>339044617
Remember how people complained that Anime relics had suboptimal stats? The fact is that SE have written themselves into the corner with only 3 DPS stats (Det, Crit, Spell/Skill speed - no hit on the weapons anymore). And since there were already two other weapons of the same ilvl ingames, they literally had no choice with what stats to use for them. This is how bad the FFXIV itemisation is.
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>>339044617
The gear in HW is one of the worst things.

It's either all lazy recolors or just minor remixes of old gear.

Stats are a disaster that will never be fixed because SE doesn't give a shit about the game and will never pay a single dime more than they need to, because they've stolen all the sub money to fund XV and VII, and just need XIV on barely life support to keep bringing in dosh.
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>>339035352
>WoW
>Visually appealing

WEW LADDIE THAT'S A GOOD JOKE

Even FFXI, a fucking PS2 game from over a decade ago, looks better than WoW in every measurable way.
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>>339044774
Name change or move servers
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>>339025491
>why doesn't this one game do what no other game does, $12 of mom's money is worth a lot to me!
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>>339038620
Not even debatable
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>>339025718
the bosses in Alexander are fun at least, so that's good. And it is sped up, as people get better gear, and get better at the fights.

Fuck relic grinding.
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>>339024420
>they finally used the song from the first trailer
god DAMN
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