Pretty fun, no bugs for me yet. Anyone else liking the release? Any good webm?
Full skeleton stack with Blood Knight weathered multiple stacks of empire infantry and calvery until it was just a handful of skeletons, a single wraith, and the Blood Knight General. With Nehek spell he killed over 500 men, two lords, and routed the army with a sliver of health left because he was pushed into a corner.
>Mfw Kemmler and Mannfred got punked like bitches in their armies
>Mfw game named him Count of Beasts
>>339013471
This happens in tabletop too
>>339013821
>LOOK UPON THE TERROR HIMSELF, MORTALS
I think the fear mechanic stacks
>those graphics
>that animation quality
holy shit does that look bad
>>339014094
Nice bait
>>339014094
>>339014154
Are you blind?
Look the ground textures. The way he falls off too... It's like it's taken from a 2005 game.
>>339014229
Wow man, its like its adjustable or something
>>339014229
>
>>339014203
>>339014154
Why are you defending this game? Buyers remorse?
I still can't quite understand what everyone's problem is with this game on Steam. It's literally everything it promised us and surprisingly well optimized.
My GOTY this year, and unless Blood and Wine does something astounding, I don't think it'll be toppled.
>>339014281
Bad animation is adjustable?
Though modding I guess... Why do modders always have to fix these shitty CA games anyway?
>>339014332
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAu7945zfPc
>>339014442
literally thousands of animations are playing at once, do you expect them to be perfect?
>>339014443
Holy shit that animation quality is bad. Peoples faces aren't even animated. Fucking LMAO.
>>339014442
yea man why cant V like good games like call of duty ghosts that was a 10/10 from ign
how can this even compete, like they arnt even running on walls
>>339014332
This game has been the smoothest launch for TW in a long time, and was built from the ground up. Infantry has punch, calvery impact like trains, and theres fuckers who can raise the dead and cast fireballs. No remorse here, im actually pleasantly surprised
>>339013471
I read that Dwarfs can be a pain in the ass to play because of the grudge system. Sometimes they will get grudges with people that fuck off to the other side of the map. Only gameplay problem this game has so far.
>>339014543
Show me some better animation then fag
Pros
>Factions are diverse
>Confederation makes the AI keep up with you at some level
>Campaign has been challenging on hard difficulty
>the AI actually tries to do stuff in battles
Cons
>Agents once again are fucking pain in the ass to deal with. With AI's unlimited money, they will fuck you up and a high level hero can get out of control, wounding your leaders all the fucking time. Nothing is more legendary than having your emperor (who is surrounded by thousands of troops) wounded by one fucking chaos agent.
>Chasing armies. The AI deliberately moves his army that it's just out of range of yours. If you try to chase them, he will stance march away and you can't catch without having march stance or ridiculous amount of campaign movement +% bonuses. Yes, you can block armies with agents but since AI tends to spam agents, it can sometimes be hard to get an agent near their army alive and then actually succeed to block them.
>Fights are way too fucking fast.
>>339014558
>calvery impact like trains,
i feel like they took this shit a little too far though
one cavalry charge literally sends an entire unit flying through the fucking air
i know its fantasy but i dont think cavalry could literally catapult that many dudes IRL
the ragdoll physics are so over the top
>>339014550
ebin strawaman argument my man
>>339013821
>blood knight
uwot
does coop still desync?
>>339014573
Yeah Dwarf campaign can end up basically breaking if you get too many grudges you can't do anything about. And it's not always stuff that's even possible, some people have been given Grudges to kill x number of Vampire armies, AFTER they've already wiped the vamps out. Or missions to assassinate or do other agent-related stuff, which can be basically impossible with how hard AI agents are to deal with.
It's down to luck, and definitely needs some re-working so you only get grudges that relate to people that are nearby and are something you can actually deal with. Then again, Dwarfs are extremely powerful so it does help keep them from being totally OP. Even their basic units are strong as hell, they have a very large and detailed tech tree to let you specialize, and make money very easily.
>>339014626
good thing there is a mod which stops the ai agents from doing agressive actions which is a godsend
cause fuck that shit is stupid
>>339014791
Blood Knights on the tabletop are close combat core Vampires who forgo most spells and such, being a juggernaut at the fore of mostly skeleton armies. In the game there is a skill tree that runs along the top that gives them such attributes
>was always too much of an ADHD shitter to bother with normal total war games
>buy this shit
>battles go insanely quick compared to my limited experience in rome 2
i mean im not really complaining
but seriously the battles go fucking QUICK
>>339014976
i know that blood knights are a top tier unit for vamps but i had thought that they arent in yet?
>>339014946
Jesus are you a fucking babby that needs hand holding?
>waaaahhh agents are mean!
>>339014693
It's important to remember that many of them will get up again. Cavalry charges look spectacular, but they're not as lethal as they once were. They can seriously disrupt a unit's formation, but they don't outright kill people as effectively as they have in some previous titles.
It does annoy me that there's just "shock cavalry" now. Unless I've missed them, they haven't given us any melee cavalry.
>>339014693
Hate to be that guy, but they kind of did in real life too. Theyve been known to shatter an entire center
>>339015049
When they literally kill 2 lords and a hero with each assaniation succeeding its just retarded
if they ai didnt cheat its dick off with them it would be fine
but they just spam the actions without ever running out of gold and practically never fail
>>339015034
It's probably intentional, since they've done a lot of stuff to make sure you fight a greater number of open-field battles. They don't want them taking so long since there's more.
The series has been trending this way for a while, it was a big complaint for Attila. No time for manuevers, your line (or theirs) crumbles too fast.
This is always a main area of concern for the modders and Radious for example already has a mod package out that slows down the fights.
>>339015082
Chaos and Counts has melee and lancer versions of their heavy cavalry. Orks don't have any lancer cavalry either I think.
Probably the best Total War release + game ever
>tfw all you want is medieval 3
>>339015281
Hm. Maybe the designations are just wrong. I believe Orcish boar cavalry is still called "shock", though I noticed they carry swords.
>>339015047
No no mate. Abhorash was the First Blood Knight and all those who follow his path are dubbed blood knights. They temper their need for blood via marshal prowness and are hand picked from Knights
>>339015365
Well once has a higher charge, but lower melee attack and melee defense. The other is the opposite, however especially with the Chaos you can buff the fuck out of your units so they really don't have a weakness.
>>339015329
I want Empire 2 or WWI. This is basically Medieval 3 anyway, so it would be redundant for them to do that after this (which they won't).
>>339015329
Warhammer is probably a testbed for Medieval 3 anyway
>>339015047
>>339015427
Abhorash was highly against open feeding that the Lahmians and Necrachs practiced, and were super pissed when the cities they were charged with defending started falling due to the other vamps pissing off other nations, so when their home city was torched they all fled and renounced the other blood lines and sought to reduce their need for blood. Abhorash dueled a fucking dragon and sucked it dry, beating the need for blood. Now all Blood Knights are either generals or serving in Knightly Orders ij order to be as great as Abhorash and like Walach. You can make your generals Blood Knights by following the afformentioned skill tree
>>339015427
oh fuck yeah im just really tired right now
so youre just dubbing a lord as a blood knight due to a skill tree since blood knights arent added yet
Is it just me or are ranged units fucking useless in this game? Seems like you're better off with all melee and monster spam.
There also doesn't seem to be an effective counter to monsters or flying units either, other than having more monsters and flying units yourself.
>>339015742
Yes. Besides the unit in Tabletop is just 5 Blood Knights who answered the call to war as singular combatants, others lead entire professional armies as mercenaries
>>339015787
>ranged units fucking useless
say that to my dorf xbow and gun lines backed by warriors and longbears
ranged units are rly good
>>339015787
Yeah, playing as dwarfs vs VC, my ranged/arty kept getting flanked by bats and other shit. Best way to combat that is to keep some melee in reserve.
>>339015787
Just remember you can fire into melee combat with ranged units.
>>339015787
They had to make the vampire counts playable.
>>339015787
>Is it just me or are ranged units fucking useless in this game?
Nigga you what?
>not smoking an entire unit of Vargheists with crossbows and listolers
>>339015787
Ranged units? Do you mean ranged infantry? They're a very significant improvement over Attila, the previous TW title, since they have much more ammo and do more consistent DPS, although the lack of shot types is kind of dongs. Artillery is also exceptionally strong, and Outriders are just plain broken.
>>339015787
I have six handgunners in my stack and they fuck shit up before the enemy gets rekt by Greatswords and Halberdiers.
>>339015918
Yeah if you want to hurt your own units
>tfw 750 ti
>tfw muddy ground/unit textures all over the place
>>339015959
I played shogun 2 last. Is there really no option to make my spearmen form a spear wall?
>>339015787
Focus fire with all ranged on the most expensive units
>>339016002
They added in d12 support. So they likely made the game run a bit shitier on d11
>>339015967
>>339015959
>>339015932
>>339015918
okay but how are you supposed to counter the monster spam then
where are the dedicated monster killing units?
it feels like rome 2 if there were no unit cap on war elephants, you just run into some shithead with 7 troll stacks and flying bats and get your shit wrecked
>>339016001
but thats wrong
thunderers get a debuff without line of sight like all gunners, but xbows can fire over your own soldiers into the enemies without hurting your own dudes
>>339016107
>what are slayers
>what are great swords
>what are kiting units
>what are heroes
>what are magicians
>what are flanking movements
>what are false fleeing movements
>what are you, a fucking scrub?
>>339016107
>where are your dedicated monster killer units
you do realise that there are units that are anti large right?
![A05DB30E0C7D1E2250D14C5BFAA189A06FBF736C[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/q14hWdy.jpg "A05DB30E0C7D1E2250D14C5BFAA189A06FBF736C[1].jpg")
>>339013471
the better camera mod is great. i really enjoy taking way too many screenshots
>>339016001
Crossbow/bow fire will arc over your lines into the rear of the enemy lines, and firearm troops apparently won't shoot unless there's no dudes on your side in their way, so you can move them around behind a unit and blam them in the back and it does massive morale damage.
>>339016107
Look at your units and look at the traits they have. They'll generally have something about being good against large creatures if they're monster-killers.
>>339016016
Attila went balls to the wall with unit abilities only for them to be pretty much stripped from the game in Warhammer. It's pretty shit.
>>339016016
No, Warhammer did away with most unit formations.
>>339016002
>Play game
>Glitch waves on the screen
>Set unit size to ultra anyway
>I put up with it because I <3 Warhammer
>>339016350
Fucking christ
>>339016107
>dedicated monster killing units
Look at the unit stats. Every faction has units that specifically say "Anti-Large", designed to fight monsters and win.
>>339014332
You're retarded, kys
>>339015034
Have you tried the Radious mod? Its a complete overhaul and it mentions that it makes battles last longer among other tweaks. I haven't tried it out myself though.
I love how people who cant deal with the monster units cant fucking read or change their ways from
>I mak line
>shooties go shootie
>lol gaym 2 ez
Now they panic because they send line troops to kill a pack of trolls and wonder why it doesnt work
>>339016547
trolls are fucking OP
>send out some greataxe units who are "anti-large"
>trolls fucking wreck their shit
>>339016002
The game looks quite shit regardless. Even maxed out, this game is a lot worse looking than Attila, Rome 2, and Shogun 2.
>>339015232
I agree, fuck agents! It has to be reworked, when you get swarmed by them fun is over.
>>339016646
If you have anything that does fire damage, hit them with that too if you can. Fire spells, fire spell bound items, flame weapons.
>attack non-walled settlement
>it's an open field
But why tho
>>339016646
Trolls have awful morale
Monsters are far from OP, Giants on the other hand can kill anti-large units unless they just swarm it.
>>339016646
>just sending in 2h troops into a frontal charge of Trolls
Nigga for fucks sakes. Stop the car with a speed bump, dont run out infront of it. If you see trolls, send a hero or muddlr unit to stop them, then charge in the anti-large
accidentally spoilered that last one
>>339016646
They have garbage morale, though. If you get them with something that does well against monsters that rout fast.
Why the fuck did they change morale to "leadership"?
>>339016829
>muddlr unit
wat
>>339016297
Which mod?
>>339014693
>the ragdoll physics are so over the top
They are always over the top for every game ever made. developers think its more fun if they are exaggerated. I always have to mod in proper physics for all my games i can becauseit triggers meskyrim and counter strike especially annoy me because its so much more satisfying with more realistic physics.
I can see myself not minding it too much for a game like total war though.
>>339016923
Muddler*. Like skeletons or clans dwarves, just something to get in the way and absorb their charge
>>339016852
Its called Leadership in the Table Top
>>339016782
Cheap bandaid instead of fixing shitty AI
>>339015329
>yfw all you want is for medieval nerds who don't play anything else in the series but go in every thread about them to let everyone know this fact to Fucking die already but never do
>>339017023
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=690476829
>>339017135
What game has better ai
Game is making me feel retarded as fuck
I like it
Empire 2 when? That world map gave me boners.
>>339017147
whatthefuckamireading.jpg
>>339016702
Agents have been consistently dogshit since M2. I've used mods that remove them in S2, R2, Attila, and now Warhammer.
Attila is *literally* impossible as a horde faction if agents are active, and Chaos are exactly the same way in Warhammer.
>>339016867
Because that's the morale stat in the tabletop game, and is a change that was probably mandated by GW.
>>339016852
>Aye, I see its time to cash in my wrist gold.
>A fine doom, this shall be
>>339017197
Moders have better AI, they can fix it but devs cant?
>>339015082
I love watching my Reiksguard send archers flying
>named them Emperor's Lancers
>I will probably be authentically sad if they ever get wiped out
>>339016297
me on the left
>>339017337
Are you going to list off an example or just thumb your asshole like a retard?
>>339015787
Not at all man, if you've got 4-6 units of crossbowmen you can easily rout at least one infantry unit before it crosses swords with you front line using focus fire. handy if the enemy has elite anti-infantry troops
Is anyone making a minor factions mod?
Honesty, just have it unlockable and CA puts a warning that it's completely unfair and let it be.
>>339017204
My sentiments exactly, nice to have a game that isn't super handholdy easy and can fuck your shit up "for once."
>>339016682
sure thing
>>339017460
inb4 darth
>autistically naming each unit in your army
It's great, but it just makes me want a mod that allows you to select equipment and unique unit cards. The armor upgrades in M2 were FLY AS FUCK; as you improved each unit the model would change to represent the upgrades. I wish they'd implemented the same kind of system for WH so you could have units of the same type look at least somewhat different from each other.
Explosions are fun
>>339017537
>ally pressures me into joining him in a war on one of the minor imperial states
>said faction immediately besieges one of my poorly defended towns due ot my main armies being balls deep in enemy territory as I seek to reclaim my empire
FUCKi'm mad, but's it's a good mad
>>339017361
Naming troopers has mad me flee them intentionally so they wont be lost. I was lost an entire named Army due to a siege
>mfw watching them slowly killed to the last man
>mfw chasing that stack down with a fresh army
>cornering them in the woods
>killing them all to the last man
>then executing all the survivors
>>339017460
He's gonna thumb his asshole like a retard.
>>339017698
>B-BUT AWFUL A-A-ANIMATIONZ
>>339017808
Well, previous TW games have had properly animated artillery crews
>>339017698
Kek does that mortar army get its shit pushed in when they finally make it over?
Don't know why people are moaning about enemy agents, just hire some yourself, do some easy missions to level up then put star points into assassination. I've got two high level witch hunters cock blocking all the faggy northern chaos vikings at a bottle neck near the top of the map.
>>339017869
Yeah, that turned a wheel or glitched through a barrel with a fucking ram rod. Shut your chew hole
>>339017879It actually almost won, had I been aiming properly and not AFK they would have won easily.
So the consensus seems to be that the game has flaws, but it isn't a buggy mess and captures the feel of the setting well?
I hope for a mod or even an expansion that lets you tear down enemy settlements that aren't compatible with your race and rebuild them so as to be usable. Frankly I'm baffled that this isn't in the game
>can't use priests to purify chaos taint from norscan towns and rebuild them into human forts on the northern frontier to safeguard the realms of men from the horrors of the warp
>>339018006
Burn them all, Klaus
>PURIFY THEM
>>339017808
well they could be better done, but it's not a massive deal to me.
>>339014693
I like the charges.
It's really fucking unsatisfying in Shogun 2 and Medieval 2 when you slam your shock cav full speed into the rear of an engaged enemy unit and they just bob to the side.
Unit displacement and disorganising is basically the main role of heroes/cavalry/monster units. Now they've gotten rid of kill animations, huge blobs of infantry melt fast when disorganised.
>>339018006
The game has flaws the same way all games has flaws. But its not a 'flawed gem' like a Souls game. Its a really well made game.
>>339017869
>calling the glitchy and garbage animations in those games "fully animated"
Like dangling a dead body from strings and calling it alive because it moves. All those games had human only models.
>>339018006
Yes it's a good game. Some aspects have been dumbed down compared to previous total war game's, but the races variety makes up for it.
>>339018006
Yes, much more to love than hate. I'm really hoping this is just the start and they address all the complaints people have eventually such as formations.
>>339018223
I do find the lack of formations weird, being able to spread your people out is super helpful against an army with a shitload of artillery or archers, maybe they were concerned it fucked with balancing or something.
Waiting on lizardmen
in the meantime I've been doing vampires. Sword skeletons are all you need.
>>339015787
I wouldn't say so. They have decent range, plenty of ammo and will wreck shit if you're using them against unarmoured/unshielded units.
This has been countered by the fact that forests work as cover from missiles now (maybe they did before but now they visualise woodland blocking shots with a little fire effect).
I would say they're more useful than they were in Attila. They also reorganise and fire faster than they have in other Total War games.
>>339018465
can someone please webm the skeleton warriors marching? That shit delighted me when i saw it, it's perfect
>mfw can easily max out the vampire counts units
Only 10 turns in and already have almost all elite units.
>>339018584
>mfw they jump into the air in a charge
>mfw their little icon screams when given an order
>mfw Grave Guard sweep an entire unit
>>339018465
>Doesn't run Varghulf only armies.
seems legit
>>339018584
I made one of my commanders a combat monster and made all his units skeleton swordsmen with some spears for anti large.
Watching the columns of skeletons charge is amazing
>>339016547
I'm so glad multiplayer battles are now more involving than watching a blob of units meleeing whilst trying to out hammer and anvil the other player.
Why does the game look like ass on highest settings?
TW games from 5 years ago had better graphics
>>339017157
Thanks. Pretty cool stuff.
>>339018970
I need to fire up a custom battle and play with gyrobombers, they look sexy as fuck
So how are Skaven going to work? Public order will be a nightmare due to them killing each other like orcs.
And diplomacy with dwarves and Empire?
>>339017147
wat
I know that there aren't any torrents out for the game yet but does anyone know of any places I can get it for under 60 dollars? Thanks
>>339018006
Basically yes.
People are a little salty that the game did away the formation selection element that was basically 50% of Rome 2 and Atillas battles, but I think it wouldn't really work with the unit variety as the game is about selecting the right units I counter the enemy rather than picking the right formation.
The downside to that is that the game is a little dull when you're playing Empire vs. Empire factions because they lack special units that need countering.
>>339019158
>diplomacy with dwarves and Empire
>stab option
>don't stab option
Easy enough
>>339015650
nothing after 1900 at the lastest, after that it was squad based fighting.
I heard they fucked up undead and fear. Whats going on?
>>339017526
i've seen a "all factions available in custom battle" mod
>>339019487
They didnt. See >>339013821
>>339018006
There's already a mod that let's you capture all races settlements.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=687689947&searchtext=
>>339019926
Man, thank christ they let modders at the game.
Why does unit scaling work in this game with single heroes and monsters?
Do they get more powerful with larger AOE attacks at higher scales?
>>339020536
You earn war gear that makes youstronger as well
Some heros are pure rape trains even without it. Kholek Suneater practically routed my entire army the first time I encountered him, that motherfucker is beefy and he scares low level troops shitless.
>>339020536
It doesn't work. An oversight on the devs part I'm guessing but magic doesn't scale with unit size, so mages are far more powerful playing with small or normal.
Playing as greenskins, I like it but...HOW THE FUCK DO I KILL DWARVES!? They literally just sit there and refuse to fight. My siege engines are worthless, theirs fire across the fucking map, their units are superior to mine in every respect and their lord is a fatass that cant move but apparently is also so peerless in melee combat he cannot be bested.
I have tried hammer and anvil (Difficult to pull off because they refuse to fight), doom stacking (my units break almost the second they smell a dwarf). What the hell is the secret? The more I look at their units the more broken they seem. Even their fucking 2 handers have shielded. Did they grow a third arm out of their fucking beard?
Some allied dwarf AI took the 2nd settlement next to my spawn. What do I do?
>>339021426
monstrous units that cause fear are invaluable in fighting dorfs, anything with amor piercing is also essential. hammer and anvil is less useful in this game, gotta use encirclement and using the right types of units to win close fights
>>339018959
I guess to get it to run better, which is why they gutted half the features that have been standard for years too. Apparently they really needed this one to do well (the backlash from Rome 2 and Attila must have hurt their bottom line more than they let on) and that relied on being playable on a much wider range of machines. Pretty disappointing, but oh well, better than a slideshow.
>>339020717
Kholek is great, but I still despise horde mechanics. I want the Dawi Zharr so I can have a daemonsmith on a bale taurus that's just as beefy as Kholek except my campaign doesn't end when I lose one battle.
>>339021845
You gotta get multiple hordes going anon, if you're doing chaos right by turn 60 you should be raiding at least 3 different areas simultaneously to sow discord and make paper and starting to pop karaks like water balloons.
Even if Kholek gets routed, no biggie, pull his wounded ass back and build a new horde, with blackjack, and hookers!
>>339013471
>be vampire cunts
>start blobbing north, eating up all the vampire cunts and razing the gobline settlements in the once dwarven mines to the south
>turn 70, I'm scraping money up but have 4 or so armies now
>suddenly chaos doomstacks
>weren't an issue before as I kept a buffer by kislev and other smaller states
>now archaeon turns up with 3 other doomstacks
>get in a battle with archaeon with 3 armies and 4 flying weirgheists
>40 minutes on chokepoint fighting near the cap of my city, it takes 3 full weirgheists (the flying ones) to wear him down before he runs
>lose 2400 skeletons to kill 69g chaos fags
>crush his army next turn
now I just have to focus my men on the other 2 cities getting sieged...
>>339021426
Yeah, having the same problems. The Dwarves are 100% broken. Thorgrim Grudgebearer (or Captain Battle Stroller as I call him since I thought he was on wheels at first) is quite possibly the strongest unit in the entire game and he can single handedly wipe out an army unless you have a Lord a few levels higher than him to beat him down with. Their ranged units are stronger melee fighters than most dedicated melee units in the game. They pretty much are unbreakable unless you can get cavalry charges behind them but even they'll fight a lot longer than any other faction except VC who fight to the last. They have fucking cannons and helicopters for fuck's sake. It's ridiculous and killing the fun of the Ork campaign significantly, especially now that I've taken over almost the entire Badlands area and they have no other Ork factions to be distracted by.
>>339019256
Empire v. Empire is like the first quarter of the campaign, then HA HA TIME FOR CHAOS
>>339022479
you basically just start migrating south and east to avoid the chaos rape
>>339022330
Want to beat dwarves? You need to smash Hugh king early. The others are irrelevant.
>Start out as Orcs
>Turn 10 out of nowhere 3 full stacks of dwarfs just decide that they need to deal with all their grudges against me. Now.
I can't fucking do shit against a rank 10 Thorgrim and two level 5 lords with full fucking stacks fighting me. How the fuck do I deal with Dwarfs?
>>339022330
Bruh just kill them. Like I don't know what to tell you but the "Dwarf" faction you have to kill as an objective goal was dead in my Greenskin game by turn 50. I went ham on them. Get a WAAAAGH! running around fucking them over and then sweep in with Azhag/Grimgor.
I feel you on the armor side of things but if you get some spells like SNEAKY STABBIN' you are all good.
Are those quest battles random in location? Cause holy fuck do they expect me to send an army to the furthest south part of the map as vampires.
>be Empire
>advance south instead of North
>take Bretonnian provinces while being allied with Bretonnia
>one dwarf faction is literally stuck in his own mountain
>>339022654
Sauce?
>>339022654
>>339022982
this
please
>>339022852
this, I get missions 2 or 3 countries away/.
>>339022654
I'm playing as dorfs right now and the big advantage orcs have over me is cavalry
I have no fucking spearmen and no cavalry of my own, the only defense I have is longer range bowmen
Get lots of cav and charge + retreat while being conscious of their bowmen
>>339022852
>>339023271
The quest battles themselves actually have a button you can press on the quest details popup that for a gold cost can just teleport your lord and his army to it.
Then when the battle is over your dudes are back where they were.
>>339019197
https://uk.gamesplanet.com/game/total-war-warhammer-steam-key--2794-1
honestly game wasn't worth it for me. its just a warhammer mod for shogun 2 with lots of features stripped. it's clear they are going to dumb down each sequel into the series becomes just real time battles.
>>339019256
As someone that has beaten Atilla and Shogun 2 on legendary, they left the only two useful formations in the game
The only useful formation they took out was Wedge for cavalry
>>339023709
>shogun 2 mod
>>339024029
I'm hoping wedge is only out because in the tabletop its a Brettonia exclusive cavalry formation and they'll get it once they're introduced properly.
>>339014332
Let me guess, poorfag that's butthurt that he can't pirate the game?
God I love denuvo for butt blasting little faggots like you
>>339015136
the only guy you are is the guy that is wrong.
>playing multiplayer with friends
>every time my units lose morale and run away when I've only lost a hundred or so troops
I feel so bad at this game, I had my entire army retreat when I had about 1000 troops against my friend's army with like 300 troops. He didn't even have any large creatures left, I just had 80 man spear shield men running away and full strength archers who were completely safe routing as well.
Playing campaign with my friend, started a new one as chaos after a waaagh ended our first campaign. What does awakening settlements and shit do for chaos? I want to March down to him (vampire counts) and avenge our last campaign by raping the orcs.
Would I be fucked if I don't awaken shit in the north?
Did they remove one-on-one kills when units clash? Because it seems like they're hitting air and still getting knocked around.
>>339024391
That would actually make a lot of sense, it's honestly a niche use in the total war games anyway, and one faction doesn't even have cav
Not a huge deal
>>339024753
yup it's old style, I hated the one on one shit, but some people miss it
>>339024753
Unfortunately yes. They did it to improve performance, I suppose it worked, but it sucks badly without that.
>>339024906
>>339024962
Well shit. I was really hoping to see some fantastic gore-y kills when Chosen clash with regular humans, but I guess that's not happening.
I suppose something like that would be too much to hope for as a mod?
>>339025075
no, animations are hard coded, plus the different in size would be hard to animate for. I'm personally glade they are gone, but it seems like CA thought they were too much work.
>>339025075
No chance for a mod. But maybe as DLC or in the expansions.
>>339016332
Thanks god.
The only one that shoud have abilities are heroes.
Maybe just switching firing rate and or projectile
>>339013471
Game stutters constantly on any graphic setting. Read online thats CPU related issue that many people have.
Fuck
>>339019280
Nononono
Wouldnt it be more like
>stab option
>stab option
I swear, i got one of these with my dorfs. Both options had the same outcome.
How is the turn-based campaign segment? Last Total War game I played was Shogun 2 and I didn't think that part was worked out too well.
>>339013471
Chaos, empire is literary making full armies of just outriders.
Iam i being trolled by AI?
>>339016107
Handgunners and witch hunters work well.
>>339026682
> i got one of these with my dorfs
the one about whether or not avenging grudges is worth it. both are AVENGE! CROSS ANOTHER OUT THE BOOK
Great game, 24 hours in and only now im seeing these undead cunts
>glitches
vg mentioned something that artillery and magic doesnt scale properly to large units. i can sort of see what they mean
>>339027654
Yep i think thats the one. Did give me a giggle
>>339016682
You've got a point, despite what people are saying. The shading and lighting seems off in a lot places - especially in snowy areas.
How the fuck do I kill Grimgor in battle? He's invincible
>>339028134
use warchief earth warder thrall
AYY I can finally post my webm
>>339027991
The textures on everything except units when fully zoomed in are also pretty terrible. The units look decent, there's a fair amount of detail on them, but that's it. Campaign map also has really bad lighting and detail and looks washed out.
>>339028357
>my
>>339016787
>Thy interoploers came to the wrong neighborhood.
>>339017693
I look for this in every single TW game and get disappointed every time.
>>339014443
Damn, that looks impressive.
I wish I could afford a new rig to run that shit on ultra.
This might be the first TW game to never crash on me. Did CA finally look up what "bugs" are?
>>339015242
>Radious
GRAIL DEMIGRYPHS CHOSEN THUNDERERS (skirmishers)
>>339028993
No, they simply realised their reputation couldn't take another shitty Rome 2 release.
How do I get rid of corruption?
>>339029182
that would be a first too
>>339021426
Hammer and anvil worked for me most of the time. Boys up front and wolf riders to flank. Only problem is that the dorf crossbowman can fucking out melee the wolf riders, so it gets problematic at times.
Ever since I recruited an Arachnaros spider though it's been smooth sailing. This thing is a godsend.
>>339022654
Fucking panic and consolidate. I had a similar thing and it made for a hectic fucking early game.
>>339025075
There's bound to be a blood and gore dlc. There always is.
I love to right-click enemy heroes with Dwarf cannons.
>playing as any faction but Bretonnia
>>339030496
>Playing custom battles.
>>339030571
>implying
>playind dorfs
>time for chaos invasion, everyone stops fighting each other to stem the coming tide
>everyone expect karak hirn, who still keeps on fighting (and losing) against border princes and even asks me to join them in the war several times, they are eventually defeated and nothing of value was lost
>>339030689
Funky. Mod? I kind of feel like the official release of them will be a bit more fleshed out though.
What's a decent unit composition for Empire?
Can I just cheese the game with Handgunners, Halberdiers and Greatswords?
>>339030751
Yes you can "cheese" it with that
>>339030751
>logical late game unit composition
>cheese
Are Miners worth it?
Quarrelers or Thunderers?
>>339030745
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=690370176&searchtext=
There's no tech tree, and their unit roster is not fully complete, but they're playable and fun. The DLC is very needed though.
>>339030795
>>339030847
I'm not too big on cavalry but the AI is pretty smart with kiting in this game and without siege weapons I'm getting swarmed by Chaos stacks.
>>339030850
miners are slightly less expensive than warriors but far inferior
as for thunderers i prefer quarrelers because they have decent melee and can fire over the troops in fron of them
>>339030751
>Meet greenskin army full of Big 'Uns - lose because your army only has anti-armor units
Nice cheese.
>>339030928
I've never encountered any Orks yet since I'm pushing north and fighting fellow humies.
What are Big 'Uns like?
>>339024456
Alexander was famous for shattering armies many times larger than his with cavalry charges...tell you what, go stand in the 2nd straightaway at Belmont and then you can tell me that cavalry charges aren't earthshaking
When is dx12 support coming?
>>339030979
They have some armor, high damage and are anti large, so I guess against unarmored opponents they're strong
Greatswords would still fuck them
>>339031024
"Shortly after launch"
>>339024556
Yes, they essentially just become vassals and ,dare I say, safe spaces. Great for AI cover after you eventually have to go to the chaos wastes to lick your wounds
>>339030979
Big and Un.
>>339030850
Miners are alright, but the maps are far too lacking in trees to make much use of their deploy anywhere ability to be able to use them as effective flankers. They might be more useful if you could essentially plant them somewhere pre-deployment and have them spring out when you want them to. Haven't used their grenade version, but ironbreakers put on quite a light show with theirs.
I tend to favor quarrelers since they fire over top of your other troops and are highly effective against anything without heavy armor. If the AI is bringing a lot of heavy armor and monsters though I'll start upping my thunderer numbers.
>>339013471
Is every battle a big open plain? Ive not seen anything with interesting terrain yet.
Why did CA opt for the dubbed intro cinematic? It's vastly inferior to the voiceover of the old guy from the reveal trailer.
>>339029679
>Only problem is that the dorf crossbowman can fucking out melee the wolf riders, so it gets problematic at times.
It's a good reflexion of the TT, where it's a common strategy to give them Great Weapons to fuck up anything that thinks it can roll over them.
>>339031290
There's plenty of "interesting" terrain. But open fields are the most common ones, just how they should be.
>>339027116
just get the poison doggies, they shit on the outriders
>>339031292
Probably legal complications, they had no reason to redub
>>339031351
They still have great weapons ingame
>>339031142
FOR THE LADY
Given that I've not been happy with any of the Total War games since Empire I'm going to give this a miss. They really need a new engine. Shogun2 and Napoleon wasn't bad and I was fond of what they tried to do with the multiplayer in the former (which they now seem to have entirely given up on) but everything else has been pretty disappointing. The melee just doesn't feel good because everything's a big clump and the little 1v1 locked animations look pretty dumb. You could kind of forgive it in Shogun because of muh honorabu samurai but even in Shogun FotS was the best.
Is it worth getting if i've never played a warhammer game before?
>all the dorf economic buildings require a YUGE settlement otherwise you'd be stuck with level 2 or level 1 shitters
>>339031567
No 1v1 in this.
>>339014626
Agents have been a nuisance to deal with and use in every Total War game and they've never done anything to fix it. They made it worse if anything.
>>339031567
I stopped caring about how the animations look 10 battles in, senpai. I rarely have time to stop issuing commands and look at a single engagement, not to mention zoom in and appreciate it up close.
>>339031567
So why even post? Nobody cares about your opinions on a game you haven't played.
>>339015242
It's been a complaint since the first Rome to be honest.
Im new to the total war series, and so far im enjoying it, but i have no idea what im doing.
Is there some video series that explains this shit a bit better than the advisor?
