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anyone else think the witcher 3 is overrated? ive played 13 hours
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anyone else think the witcher 3 is overrated? ive played 13 hours so far and its just not that good.
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>>338953829
nope, its very good.
13 hours is just scratching the surface desu.

This type of game just isn't for you if you think 13 hours is a long time.
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>>338954079
i actually liked it a lot; those 13 hours were over 3 days. but yesterday i started playing euro truck simulator and i played that for like 6 hours. now today when i tried to go back to witcher i just cant get into it. i'd rather drive a truck.
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>>338953829

No i think it's good
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>>338953829
Hearts of stone is leagues better than the main game just go play it
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>>338954332
also i played witcher 2 before starting 3 and i think the combat and movement in 2 was better
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>>338953829
its probably the most overrated game ever made.
mediocre at best, when talking to other npcs is the best part of the game, it tells a lot.
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>>338953829
Really good. blood & wine comes out in 4 days. My butthole is ready for Geralts pp.
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Everyone thinks it's shit except CDPR shills that won't shut the fuck up about it. Congrats. You fell for the shills.
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>>338953829

/tv/ here, literal patrician game which is weird since most games are pleb shit for retarded teenagers (yes this includes tlou, uncharted, and all those b tier "movie" games). The story, characters, setting and presentation are all 10/10, also no sjw shit shoved down your throat which lowers the artistic integrity of the game. If you can't appreciate this game then kill yourself, you're part of the problem why games have such low standards, because their audience is retards.
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>>338954332

>tfw bought both Overwatch and TW Warhammer
>just keep playing Overwatch all day even though I'm trying to get into TW Warhammer too
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>>338953829
The series is for and is praised by the easily impressed, you just "fell for the meme".
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>>338953829
Did you rate Uncharted 4 10/10 by any chance?
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>>338955686
TW3 is the Uncharted of RPGs so I don't see how you thought you were clever with that.
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Dropped after 2 hours.

rip 25 euribor
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>>338955686

N-NO, O-OFCOURSE NOT!
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>>338953829
I loved this game, every moment was encapsulating and I put maybe 200+ hours into it just looking in every nook and place I could find another story or quest to uncover
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>played 13 hours of a 100 hour game
>it's not very good
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>>338955765

that makes no sense, uncharted is like 10 hours long and witcher 3 is 200+ hours of content
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>>338956032
the witcher 2 only took me 15 hours to beat but i like it better than witcher 3's first 13 hours.
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>>338956125
They're both overpraised movie games, not even him
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OP hasn't even fucked triss or yen yet

kek
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>>338955948
how could you play the one and the same "muh witcher sense/follow the breadcrumbs trail" quest for the 200th time?
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Yup, I stopped at around 15-20 hours. The story was boring as fuck, the combat was garbage, the world was empty besides copy+pasted filler "quests", and the RPG mechanics like the perk based leveling and the inventory system sucked ass. Not a good game.
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>>338956405
Goddamit, why is it that only after I fucked Yen and am suddenly bound to her for eternity do I realize that Triss was best girl all along?
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>>338954332
when a game starts being fun only after 50 hours i would say that is a big fucking failure as a game.
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>>338956484
Sup TheBull, you faggot
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>>338956912
Magics gone
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>>338955658
Play TW it's super fun desu. Overwatch is pretty dank too but it's a fallback game for when I don't have anything else to play.
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It's okay to have opinions OP, don't let any faggots on this board tell you otherwise. It's certainly not a game for everyone.
It's one of the slowest games ever, and while I love the series people way more invested in it than me somehow think it's acceptable to lead a player on for 100+ hours with a literal crumb trail of a main story.

Of course everyone will tell you the game is literal perfection, which it's not.
It takes true fans to realize where their favorite game has flaws, you're all a bunch of bandwagoning assholes who shitpost nonstop.
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>>338953829
do Side quests. Dont follow main quest only m8. And give it 10-20 more hours so it kicks in. Propably at keira metz / Swamp Witches quest
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Do you like letting yourself get sucked into a neat fantasy world with actual characters, unlike Elder Scrolls? This is a game where you roleplay Geralt. If you don't like Geralt or the world he inhabits, you probably won't like the game.
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>>338955802
>played 2 hours
>first map is tutorial to introduce the game and it lasts for 4 hours.
Fucking V opinions
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>>338953829
No, it's a good game. The combat was never highly rated so what exactly is overrated about it?
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>>338956297
>
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>>338953829
It's extremely good for people who enjoy those kinds of RPGs, but I can see how some people may not like it
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I haven't even played it yet.
I've got like 9 hours played or so on Witcher 2 and I haven't even gotten past that troll out in the forest in that first village you get to, I just got bored. Story is pretty good and the atmosphere and music is great but the combat just bores me to death.

I enjoy the combat in Skyrim way way more than the Witcher combat
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>>338957639
>thinking anyone is going to go through a 4 hour tutorial

Anything longer than a screenshot of what the controls do is completely unnecessary.
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>>338957639
>V

I agree with you, but goddamn.
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>>338958068
I replayed Skyrim after W3 and couldnt get into Skyrim combat anymore. W3 is 10x better than W2 so just try it for yourself and you will see. It's masterpiece game, but you have to give it like 20 hours cuz main story quests are shitty at the start of the game. But then, when you do monster hunting quests and meet some new characters it's on baby
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>>338958217
By tutorial i ment that White orchand village is only to learn combat and basics of investiganting monster hunting. You can just leave it and go further. There is no level scaling so you can beat 30+ levels higher enemy only if you know how to fight m8.
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W3 Vanila is decent, but Hearts of Stone addon is a fucking masterpiece.
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>>338959219
Want to get into it but the frog is impossible

This is speaking from a guy that beat all the souls games
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>>338956183
>15 hours
Did you skip literally all the side quests and cut scenes?what the fuck
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>>338953829
Maybe its not your type of game OP
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>>338959505
>muh souls games
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>>338953829
Great game, in a very similar way to the elder scrolls games. In which the main story is just a way for you to explore the world and is not well written. However the quests are great.
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>>338958668
I love TW3 and I must say that you are full of shit, level scaling IS present and it's the major thing that they've fucked up. I don't know about other difficulties, but on death march every red/skull level enemy 1-2 shots you while you do 2 digit damage which won't even move a pixel from their healthbar
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>>338959716
i liked witcher 2, havent played 1
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>>338954718
how fucking shit does the combat in third have to be that someone calls the combat in second better ?
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>>338953829

maybe you're overrating your opinion
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>>338953829
The bloody baron questline was great and is partly why I loved the game. The gameplay is ok, but the game is in the quests and their writings.
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the fact is that there is a very big chance that if you started from the first one, you won't like the second one and won't even try the third one, and if you started from second one, you'll love the third one but will hate the first one, which is very weird if you ask me, and makes no sense whatsoever
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>>338959505
Nigger use igni and bombs
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>>338954332
>>338954079
25 cents have been deposited in your account
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>>338955538
>since most games are pleb shit for retarded teenagers
you perfectly discribed the witcher 3
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>>338954332
if you'd rather drive a truck, videogames aren't actually made for you (or at least, they weren't used to)

the witcher 3 is alright, but def a bit overrated
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>>338953829

along with dark souls its one of the best rpgs of the past decade
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yeah the story kinda never picks up. Gameplay is repetitive and combat is shit.
DLC was pretty good
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>>338953829
it's really well made
you can argue about the gameplay being imperfect, but the overall production quality concerning everything else is impeccable
how vodka-drinking, slav-squatting fuckers are able to deliver something like this is beyond me, though
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>>338955538
>/tv/ here
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>>338961401
op here i started with 2 and liked it.
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>>338953829
It's overrated and offends in many of the same areas other recent WRPGs do.

Presentation was very nice but that's about all it does exceptionally well. The combat is rather shallow and repetitive, the skill trees aren't very deep and don't change up the combat all that much. Enemies aren't too smart and you're stuck using a rather limited set of weapons and gear as far as functionality goes. Too many of the quests boil down to "Fetch/kill [X]" with your idiot-proof Witcher-sense. The voiced protagonist is kind of limiting in terms of role-playing as well. The dialogue choices are varied enough but I never really felt like I was actually role-playing as I was always a gruff Geralt and, again, the combat roles aren't particularly deep or varied.

It just forgot to be a good game on top of having a well-presented story with nice visuals. The actual gameplay isn't much better than something like Skyrim or Dragon Age, unless you want to count dialogue choices as gameplay. But I'm sure I'll get half a dozen responses dismissing this completely legitimate criticism.
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>>338953829

It's good if you enjoy roleplaying as a witcher. The fighting is ok but not great and the rest of the gameplay involves using witcher senses to find red things to click on and advance

I can see why people might not like it. but if you like roleplaying as that kind of character like I do then it's great
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>>338953829
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>>338959505

are you at the right level even? I found it alright, use igni on the gas clouds for some good dmage
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I think it's underrated

people shit on it all the time but it's still a 7/10
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>>338962412
don't you ever put a masterpiece like dark souls in the same tier with this garbadge
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>>338962269
Driving a virtual truck is more gameplay than watching a movie.
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>>338963895
did these losers at cdpr made this pic?
how fucking immature are they?
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I'm having fun
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>>338953829
I have not played it but compared to other games out there, and having played 1 and 2, It's unique and quite good in the end.

I am not very sure what people expected when they say that the game is overrated because it fits right in with the prior installments of the series and, in typical fashion of Eastern European developers from 2007-present, each installment got exponentially better or bigger in every area (graphics, sound, content size).
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>>338964280
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>>338964319
you are having fun by looking at trees?
wow...
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>>338964280

What the hell is immature about it? They're just being grateful for the award. Do you consider people who win grammys and oscars and shit immature for saying thank you in their speeches you fucking autist?
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>>338953829
It is good for what it is.
Not found of the Bioware/CDProjekt reliance on cutcenes and waifus but to each their own.
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>>338961312
>enjoying that quest a lot
>think Baron is a really interesting character
>he hangs himself

I also reloaded a two hour old save because I changed my mind about the Dijkstra/Roche situation. It's been a while since a game had me thinking about the decisions I've made hours later, much less regretting them.
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>>338964280
Nice Engrish, Pajeet.
And it's pretty fucking based, now kill yourself.
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>>338964567
they made a pic with their character holding a virtual paid award....
jesus christ
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>>338964635

Don't you dare fucking kill Roche you piece of shit.
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>>338964436
The gameplay just isn't great, and since it's, you know, a video game, that's kind of important.

It's not a bad game by any means, well above average, just overrated and not 10/10 GOTY. Kind of odd how something like Fallout 4 gets blasted for not being an RPG when even it gives you more freedom to role-play with the PC than Witcher does. Role-playing doesn't just mean picking dialogue options, it applies to other aspects of the game, such as your combat role, as well.
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>>338964678
>he actually likes it
you can't make this shit up
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Over Rated? Yes.

Good game? Sure is.
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>>338963834
>It's good if you enjoy roleplaying as a witcher.


>Halo is a good RPG if you enjoy roleplaying as John Halo
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how can i make the combat system less shit?
is there a mod that disables horrible auto-lock-on?
is there a mod that disables horrible monster defense scaling if you're below recommended level to fight them?
is there a mod that introduces more abilities so you won't be forced to spend 130 hours mashing light attack?
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>>338953829
In Russian gaming community games often judged by amount of "soul" they have.
You cannot measure "soul" but you can feel it.
There are games with big soul like Heroes 3 or STALKER.
There are soulless games like Final Fantasy, Halo and Overwatch.

And Witcher games definitely have soul.
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>>338964695

I did the first time because I agreed with Dijkstra about Emhyr, but after those hours passed I realized what I'd done to Broche. The nigger that helped at Kaer Mohren with no hesitation, when Dijkstra told me to fuck off. I was ashamed. Dijkstra had to die - the South won the war because I couldn't let my bro down.
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>>338957639
You could always have played it hard you pleb
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>>338964770
Mmh yes the tears are flowing. Your greasy tears are literally fuel of the slav magic used to make this GAME OF THE YEAR 2015.
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>>338964867
hahahaha!
this
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>>338964953
Now, try to define that to an autist.
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>>338964984
Game of the year !
bravo witcher
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>>338964953
>final fantasy
>soulless
you take those words back my dear slav
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>>338965106
It's actually my favorite game of all time lmao
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>>338964963

Fuck the rest of the north. Even if the north wins, Temeria is still not Temeria. At least with the semi-sovereignty Emhyr gives them, they can have their own army and govern their own land.
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>>338964169
>masterpiece
>lost izalith
kek
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>>338965083
>>338964953

Passion about the project, basically. An obvious desire to tell the story and show the player a good time, rather than make money and move on.
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>>338965190
i was being sarcatic
i was making fun of your stuborn behavior
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>>338964280
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>>338965374
a bad area doesn't make the whole game bad
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>>338965384
I know what you mean bro, but an autist wouldn't understand any of that.
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>>338964984
>GAME OF THE YEAR
witcher 3 shares this amazing achievement with other incredible games, such as the last of us and dragon age inquisition
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>>338965384
I see a lot of passion in the first game with its great quests and weird but at least somehow unique combat system.
But a sequel and third game? They are just your typical AAA products.
t. slav who played the shit out of older pc rpgs
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>>338963720
>The combat is rather shallow and repetitive, the skill trees aren't very deep and don't change up the combat all that much.
I don't know how experienced you are with the source material, franchise or the lore but Geralt, and at least he Wolf School, is built around the use of longswords. Yes, there are potions, mutations, bombs and magic signs but the very foundation is sword dancing - swings, thrusts and moves that are more akin to dancing that regular sword fighting. I really don't know how anyone would make that even more exciting without going full anime.

>Too many of the quests boil down to "Fetch/kill [X]" with your idiot-proof Witcher-sense.

So investigation quests are now mmo-fetch/kill quests? What's next? You're going to compare any sort of combat to arena combat where you are in a closed environment and the door won't open until all enemies are dead?

> The actual gameplay isn't much better than something like Skyrim or Dragon Age

Nevermind, you're just retarded or i am for taking the cheap bait.
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>>338965569
This picture is awkward to me as I played and enjoyed both games on a PS4
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>>338965669
>They are just your typical AAA products
Is this bait?
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>>338965384
>An obvious desire to tell the story
>tell the story
They can be as passionate about telling their story as they want, that doesn't mean they're going to produce a good video game. Good games have good gameplay.
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>>338964953
LoL thinking shit presentation is "Soul".
>Never change Anon.
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>>338965732
>Nevermind, you're just retarded or i am for taking the cheap bait.
Yup, right on time.
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>>338965732
>investigation quests
the only time witcher games had investigation quests is the first game
in third every quests boils down to "follow the witcher sight then kill a monster or find an object", sometimes with an obvious twist in the end
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>>338957016
still better than a game that stops being fun after 30 minutes
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>>338953829
No, you're correct, OP.
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>>338965569
>proceeds to post equally immaturely
bravo
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TW1 > TW2 > TW3.
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>>338966215
Well, you can turn of that feature but good luck finding anything in such a detailed environment.
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>>338965650
only the last of us had good gameplay too idiot
and it was way better written and presented
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Shit taste general?
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>>338954728

this

everyone that shills this game has no fucking idea of what an RPG is lol
the people who think witcher 3 is amazing also think the dark souls series is great
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Yeah well I played for almost 300 hours by now because I'm not a fucking normie who doesn't know about mods.
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>>338953829
Are the Witcher games the ultimate pleb filter?
The only person I know who doesn't like them is my spastic cousin.
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>>338966643

your spastic cousin is obviously not a pleb then
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>muh souls
the asspain is real
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>>338966494
Witcher 3 is my favorite game of all time and I find the soulsborne games boring lmao
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>>338966643
>tfw your spastic cousin has better taste than you
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>>338955658
Funny, it's the other way around for me. Warhammer is the best TW since fucking M2, as soon as some of the bigger mods get rolling it's going to be a masterpiece.
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I started the Witcher 2 and didn't like it. I've been playing the Witcher 3 the past week and I've been loving it. I really wanna replay witcher 2 again after I finish witcher 3

BTW how many hours would it take to complete an average playthrough. I'm sometimes overwhelmed by how much shit there is to do in this game
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>>338965140
There are lots of reasons.
In ex-soviet countries old FF games were not popular because everyone had bootleg NES and cartridges without memory chip. So no original FF.
Almost noone had SNES.
All games were in English.

Some people owned PS1 and some had PS2, but almost everyone played games on PCs.

So there is no nostalgia here for old JRPGs and games like Zelda.

Maybe this is why I couldn't feel it when I tried to play those games.
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>>338966494
Dark Souls at least has decent gameplay and lots of replay value
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>>338966696
He is literally a drooling fucking retard who always shits himself but he likes Dark Souls because it's just slashing monsters without any story,
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>>338966625
Mods are a sekrit club now? You actually believe this? Kids install hundreds of mods just fine, and have been doing that for years.
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>>338953829
there is not such a thing as an overrated game, you just don't like it, you know: people have different tastes
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>>338966742

then you probably love the witcher 3 for the story which is acceptable since you're probably so illiterate you can't tell good storytelling from bad storytelling anyway

protip: the story is mediocre at best, some quests are well-written, i give you that

but gameplay wise? nobody likes the witcher gameplay wise
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>>338966865
I have never seen a single comment about any Witcher 3 mods neither on /v/ nor /vg/.
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>>338966782

you are absolutely right
objectively, dark souls is a way better game, even a WAY better RPG which says a lot, really

the fanbase is equally cringeworthy though
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>>338966895
>dont like shit
>y-you just have different tastes
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>>338959624
That's the impression that I get.

>Blaze through TW2, so you can get to 3.
>"This game sucks, I don't know what's going on, lol!"
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I've lost most of my faith in CDPR after TW3. Which really sucks, since I want CP2077 to be good. I really do. I absolutely do. But I can't be more than cautiously excited for it anymore.

>>338966742
>Witcher 3 is my favorite game of all time
This is just sad.
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>>338966946

because /v/ is cancer-incarnate and 99% of the people here are straight from reddit
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>>338966776
You never had a dirt cheap modded ps1 with a fuckton of games? I had one since i was 8 years old and i've played the shit out of FF games.
Some ex-soviet anons had a really boring childhood.
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>>338967026
>dark souls
>rpg
wew lad
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Are the crying man children who hates on Witcher 3 for being one of the best games in recent time the funniest meme on /v/ right now?
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>>338967117
So you're agreeing with the original statement that normies don't know about mods for Witcher 3?
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>>338967081
>This is just sad
Name 1 (one) better game than Witcher 3
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>>338967026
I just don't get how people here can say something like Fallout 4 isn't an RPG and then say Witcher 3 not only is, but is a great one.

You're always Geralt, you always have the same personality and backstory. Making dialogue choices doesn't make a game an RPG by default, and the "But you role-play as Geralt!" excuse applies to literally every game with a set character, like Mario or Halo.
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>>338967168

its not an rpg, but still a better rpg than the witcher 3, dark souls at least has SOME kind of artstyle, some kind of immersion, atmosphere, the sense of danger lurking around a corner
(its still a shit game)

witcher 3 is just lifeless as fuck, it has no personality. AAA-garbage.

that's the fucking funny part about it

fucking cutscenes with a little text don't make no RPG nigga
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>>338967326
what would you call it then? RPG is the only genre that fits it, its not pure action or pure adventure etc. its an RPG
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>>338967324
The Witcher.
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>>338967168
>Make your own PC
>Choose your role in the story
>Choose your role in combat
Yup, it's an RPG. Might not have deep RPG elements, but it's an RPG.
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I only played first Witcher for a bit, looked and felt like poor quality Neverwinter Nights mod so I never played again.

GoG gave me copy for free anyway. Same with second game. I guess they will give me free copy of Witcher 3 next year or something.
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>>338967303

I'm another dude but generally speaking you might be right, but steam workshop is becoming mainstream fast and so will mods.
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>>338967326
Because the Fallout games weren't always like that and you can choose gender and customize your looks and what not.
And the choices in the Witcher games are different than Yes, Hmm Yeah, Sarcastic Yes and Alright
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>>338967405
Action game with some RPG elements and a decent dialogue system. It's not all black or white, there's room between "RPG" and "Not an RPG"
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>>338967148
I had bootleg NES and a PC. Can't tell it was boring.
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>>338967398
>witcher 3 is just lifeless as fuck, it has no personality. AAA-garbage.
Oh frig off Randy, you're cracking us non-autists up kek
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All the quests were very samey. Collectathon question marks make me fall asleep. Combat is meh.
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>>338967405

It's a fucking hack & slash with a lot of cutscenes. The decisions don't matter at all, they are pointless and don't affect the state of the world in the end anyway. It is completely static.

>>338967326

I don't get that either, mate.
RPGs are dying.
Have you played Divinity: Original Sin by any chance?
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>>338967508
Not trying to suggest FO4 is better at all, just found it odd how much flak that game got for not being a good RPG while Witcher is just as/more shallow with its RPG elements but gets hailed as the pinnacle of modern RPGs. I guess if Witcher had started as an actual RPG too people would probably have said the same thing.
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>>338966494
>everyone that shills this game has no fucking idea of what an RPG is lol

Go on name some recent RPGs better than the Witcher 3.

What's that? There are none and all your examples are going to be games that are 10-20 years old and overrated by your nostalgia?
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>>338967648
>The decisions don't matter at all
Le bait meme picture
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>>338967648
No but it's in my backlog, looks neat
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>>338966847
>because it's just slashing monsters without any story


So Witcher 3?
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Witcher 3 looks nice but under the surface it includes all those features that players complained about just a few years ago.

Like Witcher vision handholding or how the world is very inconsistent.

The "modern gamer" is being conditioned to consume crappy food in fancy packages and say "yummy" afterwards.
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>>338953829
Best advice I can give is to level using the main quest-line. You will not gain hardly any experience elsewhere.

The Glitcher 3 has a hidden tier system in regards to level. Around level 13 or 14, you will magically stop getting killed by every other mob you come across.

Stick to mainland quests before going off to Skellige. Skellige is a leveling disaster.
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>>338967753

Divinity: Original Sin
Pillars of Eternity
Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning
Dragons Dogma

Divinity is in fact one of the best rpgs I've ever played

It's true that there are not many RPGs out there, but that doesn't make The Witcher 3 a good one - what kind of argument is that even.
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>>338967398
I think English localization is to blame for that.
I do not know about Polish, but in Russian dialogues were thick with character.
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>>338967642
>Combat is meh.
Can you think of a better sword combat game?
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>>338967753
only cocksucking retards likes witcher3
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>>338967846
>Witcher vision handholding
See a trunk from a mile away, have to run up to it just to see if its been looted.

Following a trail of blood tracks, yes they are all the same, but you have to run to the eyeglass in order to find out it's blood tracks.
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>>338967810

when you finish the game you are thrown back into the world at a state BEFORE you finished the game and ALL the main characters are just GONE and NONE of the quests you did made an impact except maybe visually (some dude is there or not)

did you not notice that or are you just literally a fucking shill?
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>>338968039

Mount & Blade
War of the Roses

Am I on Reddit?
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>>338968069
Calm down, Jr. I usually run into at least one game breaking bug per session, but it's not that bad...until I run into the next hopeless glitch.
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>>338968149
>finish the game
>why is the game finished! REEE?!?!!11?1
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>>338967508
>Yes
>Sarcastic Yes
>Axii prompt that only works 50% of the time
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>>338968287

>play 1.0 vanilla cracked
>no gamebreaking bugs

s-support the developer
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>>338967947
I give you DivOS and PoE because they can focus more on giving the player a million different ways to solve a quest or skills opening you more choices but KoA and DDDA? The first is the definition of singleplayer MMO and the last is barely an RPG. Don't get me wrong, i love them both, sunk over 150 hours into both but they're not even in the same league as Wild Cunt neither in terms of presentation, story, gameplay or polish.
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>>338953829
The story is interesting, but the world feels so shitty and empty Exploration is pointless, since all the best gear is literally marked on your map, and restricted by level requirements. You're punished for exploring by MMO-tier enemy gating (lvl 25 ghoul is invulnerable while a *your lvl* ghoul dies in 2 hits), and it's just not very engaging to play.

The combat is generally just fucking awful and somehow manages to be even worse than witcher 2.

That being said, I think it's a decent game if you ignore the open world and only do the main quest.
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>>338966742
LMAO DUDE !
LETS WATCH JONTRON NOW !
SO RANDUM!
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>>338968315

so you agree that none of the decisions you make in the game have any impact on the state of the world in the finished game?

wow, great RPG
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official witcher 3 review.

all non-quest related things you can find on the world are copy paste boring shit
no one will talk to you unless they are quest related and you have the quest that requires them
awful ui made for consoles and only 2 consumable slots, making alch spec a chore
no resource management, you just instantly get all your potions back for whats essentiallly free
enemys have 1, maybe 2, attack that they repeat over and over, making fights absolutely boring after an hour
level system only works to the games detriment, as youll quickly outlevel everything you have to do and it will all be easier than the game already is
coming across a SKULL WARNING SIGN monster should be exciting but it's not, because you know it fights exactly the same as all the others of its kind, only with more hp.
"cinematic" controls that ignore accuracy in favor of looking more natural
even death march is easy as fuck due to a lack of enemy attack variety and every ability you can spec into being way too strong
ciri sections are boring and unneeded and only serve to rob you of what could have been the one interesting boss fight in the game.
the final moments of the story seem rushed as fuck, from oh hi crones now we fight, to im eredin i have a secret, im dying my secret is this guy tricked us and i had no plan to deal with it, to oh actually geralt i didnt trick you
majority of loot is randomized and scales to your level. Nothing you find really excites you.
all enemies have an extremely short tether that you will cross unintentionally more often than not. At this point they ignore you and start walking back to the center of the area or hang around to get hit easily
witcher senses are only ever used when the quest requires it and is just hold right click to follow quest arrow. you cant actually track monsters or anything out in the world(and why would you need to? theyre all tethered to a small location and never move away)

6/10 game. Had potential, wasted it.
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I wish i didn't get it for ps4. it's all blurry and shit compared to the pc version. I've googled it and i swear no one else seems to be talking about this problem but it's blurry as fuck for me and I can't justify spending more when I already spent £40 on it
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>>338968249
Now i know you're fucking with me. Just because you can tilt the attack angle that makes them better?
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>>338968574
Just pirate, you already paid for the PS4 version.
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>>338967212
they are. The funny thing is how fast they react to threads being posted, like they're monitoring the board just waiting for their chance
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>>338968520
No because you are ported back to a state before the ending, are you really that stupid?
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>>338967947
Not him but
>Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning
The combat is pretty good, but how is it a good RPG, really? It gets really stale and repetitive, the quest are nothing special, sense of progression gets lost midway, quests are pretty mediocre. I even had to drop it.
DDDA fares better but it's of a bit different kind of RPG.
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>>338968595

are you really saying that Witcher 3 has a good sword fighting system?

lmao fucking gothic 2 had a better one
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>>338967947

Yo, Kingdoms of Amalur was fun for a bit but come on man...
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>>338968809
>the quest are nothing special
>quests are pretty mediocre
I fucking suck cocks at writing things.
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>>338968776

which is the most retarded design-decision I've ever seen and how you can defend that is literally beyond me.
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>>338967324
Even doom is better than the witcher 3
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>>338968825
witcher 3 plays like if someone played gothic and wanted to make the same game but didnt know anything about why the gothic games were successful and then slapped an incomplete excuse for running around for 100 hours of a story onto it.
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>>338968683
I tried pirating before but I gave up. Couldn't figure out what "mounting an iso" even meant
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My biggest issue is Geralt is just an insufferable boring faggot and so is his story

Everyone else in the game is far more interesting.

If you're going to lock me in to playing as one character in an RPG https://www.google.com/recaptcha/api2/payload?c=03AHJ_VuuzWmGUVJCk3RmP_J2EUTwR8aa-Ws6nrFDc99_x2pxN6HSaIasK_mxqw2we8iYIPLi7TGgJ5K0IvGC-8VjRmqD2C5QBs1Z5uQtrqzX8D3si3eH0Nt9hhyGis9Fvt5grpsNE6XCpByp4zuTw_W3pzL_iqtXsbyUTcflDaSzsKFmaqsUK39M1Olg5Qe6sn0PhJagBhOOrPINUS-m-hIwgZ1OwG6p65XgEB10Uo8RFgLekxFeF39E8wzBve5ZwVyeRf9dePsIfFULBnmhURieC5K3uttrwjScUZsh9z1Ns1cQwg5Pl7OFQ_LCZS-b1EPQht8mktybHXQ8GT_jcepzzyYHMcrODhVq-xigrf5AiGB77cas_ZbCmpWCi-uoO1Lk37LWB3G9SNtdsG2ZoE3H413aFY1zUejzOgRsxPRDWbGhtaWSpxq51l4cA80_zHLcCJrfWQWJZtVrs6MOyhvyfk2OIT8MlfE-mUR_s8f9OnR9BjGEOiufOQLIgbCFHlQ_JwAcYwYCCG6ByPoxndFkwAMFL2eypGQrtQs6__kClucjpIHmsS8TQ8-YeMqBKWi9PXhQKV3t77nYyUCVH_Z9EltYawZYQNvwUaAnw3uXUA8oqGJbgfZJykusaNTauywbdBnliDpVIBj1YKAlYfU-PesR4qgoaSj9f6KDpRAiciuUkmQfOUuujatNVR0tehPZDPiV94-kPGvV0-SMs2lmkw55winnR2l614ZFEbmGf4PjIW6XJjmyuNcJfByrxipVxTnwNzgEUld71VU0ZRtymqCpOX_-VlH9gM3vnjrvaqloU_WIPE_uQbVjihJIw3-ci6_a8rzWTFobDDxn33WY7BQQWjka_6xCP_4S25F_-be3IAIwEDnGPKg-N7hHR5FBLZqO4WbbEbSw7HWO5fvdrw4xVcIFeaw&k=6Ldp2bsSAAAAAAJ5uyx_lx34lJeEpTLVkP5k04qcits
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>>338953829

I love it personally.

61 hours in so far, still only in Act 1.
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>>338968468

Uh, gameplay in DDDA is way more fun and varied than Witcher 3. If you want to go ahead and try to argue you have more options and skills in Witcher 3 compared to DDDA, you are more than welcome to if you want me to completely annihilate your argument.
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>>338968039
are you retarded or you just didn't ever play a good game in your life?
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>>338968809

You are probably right. But the lack of recent RPGs (fucking genre is dying out, really) forced me to include it in the list. I kinda liked it, but it got repetitive really fast. But so did The Witcher 3, I just hate the modern obsession with all that crafting shit.

And also, since the other anon mentioned it, all the Mount & Blade games are phenomenal RPGs.
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>>338959505

The frog was annoying but not insanely hard by any means. Use axii, hit him a few times, dodge.

Rinse and repeat until the frog dies.
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>>338968952

Man I am so gonna replay Gothic this weekend
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Its mediocre. The combat is weak and clunky, the weight limit is retarded (wouldn't have finished it without a console command to take it off), and the questing is usually the same format of "witcher sense, follow trail, kill monster". Exploration is worthless because most of the world is empty and normally just full of bandits, and the loot you find out there is usually just vendor trash anyway.

The one saving grace should be the story, but I found it pretty hit or miss. The only one I truly got invested in was the Baron questline, and a few of the optional "breadcrumb" quests. I remember around the ice level I realized it was getting extremely fucking boring, but I had already put in the time so I just rushed through to the end. IMO just play the Baron quest line out and then uninstall.
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>>338968967
It treats the .iso file as if you had inserted a DVD into your optical drive so you can install as you would normally.

Just google "mount iso" and you should be able to figure it out. You may need to download a program to mount it but it's easy. It just makes your computer think you've got the disc in there and are installing from it.
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It has a lot of great parts, but the boring parts in between really kills it for me. I don't see the fun in 70% of the game being running between ?'s on the map.
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>>338968967
Uh, what? Download the GoG version, you idiot.
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>>338968570
Oh shit, you've forgot your Gene Wilder that comes with this paste, here you go, I'll lend you mine.
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>>338968825
Yes, horizontal left and right swings are a much better combat system than light, heavy, light and heavy special attacks and counter attacks.
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>>338968981
If Captcha fails, and tells you to paste the coded line which gives out your personal information, don't post it.
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>>338969009
You're comparing game primarily focused on sword combat to a game that gives you every ranged and melee class in medieval fantasy. You see how that is more than just deeply flawed, right?
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>>338969035
You could just answer the fucking question, how about that? Keep in it's a sword combat game, emphasis on semi-authentic long sword fighting.
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>>338970289

But even the sword combat of Witcher isn't nearly as fun as fighter or warrior...

For Witcher you get light and heavy attack, special attack of each and a parry and roll.

For Fighter in DDDA you get light and heavy attacks, where the light attack has different combos. Jumping attacks. Blocking and perfect blocking. Various sword skills, various shield skills. Grappling and climbing.
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>>338968967
You also don't even need to mount it. Just use your RAR program on the ISO and it will extract the normal files from it. From there you can just install like normal.
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>>338970468
like every jrpg ever made is better than this garbadge
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>>338970468
literally every other game with sword fighting

die by the sword
blade symphony
orion dino beatdown

witcher 3 combat is braindead made further braindead by doubly braindead enemies.
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>>338966915
>the story is mediocre at best
It's been that way for every Witcher game. People play it for the cast of characters, not the plot.
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>>338970514
The only valid argument is that DDDA allows you to grab an enemy, but even that simply wouldn't work with the lore. Witchers are supposed to be nimble fighters. Dancers. They get signs, mutations, potions, bombs and swords, CDP already broke with some traditions by allowing for daggers, axes and small crossbow to be added to the game albeit in a very minor capacity.

No, as far as longsword combat goes, Witcher 3 is actually the best around. Maybe if CLANG hadn't become vapor ware or Chivalry and War of the Roses weren't first person multiplayer slaughterfests. But as it stands, especially for RPGs, there is nothing that comes close to it.
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>>338953829
anyone else think /v/ is overrated? ive browsed it for over 2 years and its just not that good.
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>>338971235
where in the witcher books does it say that all witchers must also have shit gameplay
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>>338971235
DD's combat has a lot more depth, get the fuck over it. You have more skills, more movement options and just more of everything in general. As he said, even the fighter vocation alone offers more diversity than Witcher 3's combat.
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>>338968520
This is identical to literally every CRPG ever made.
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>>338971387
HAHAHAHA !
imagine if the book writes'' If you make this a game make sure it has shit gameplay''
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>>338971235

How is having literally just 4 sword attacks and two defensive options (parry doesn't even work on monsters) better than having roughly two dozen skills split between offense and defense in terms of pure gameplay?
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>>338971737
Because CDPR made them, duh!
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>>338971503
>even the fighter vocation alone offers more diversity than Witcher 3's combat.
Because it's a fucking RPG mixed with japanese cuhurazay. The whole Witcher franchise, from the books to the movies and games is about semi-authentic longsword combat, you may not like that but those are the boundaries. You get magic, potions and bombs to mix things up but your sword fighting is based around sidestep, dodge roll, 4 different sword attacks and a counter attack. I have no idea how to make that any more exciting without going full animu retard.
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>>338971987
But muh giant edgy flaming animu swords!!11!
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>>338971987

I'm sorry, but no one in the history of sword fighting twirls around like Witchers do. If DD is seeped in japanese cuhrazy then Witcher is seeped in ballerina cuhrazy.
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>>338955538
Exactly, some people blame the game devs, but they are only targeting their audience. No point in making things deep/complex(won't be noticed and the retards will complain) when you can put in half the effort and spend money on the most important thing...advertising.
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>>338960553
Witcher 2 is fantastic, i'm convinced only bad people say this.
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>>338972173
t. Pleb
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>>338958068
Play it on the hardest setting. I found it immensely tactical, rewarding, and fun.
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>>338972208
Name single game with more complex and deep characters
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>>338953829
keep playing till around 30 before final judgement, also playing on hard makes the combat amazing
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>>338963720
How is the combat shallow and repetitive if each enemy type demands a radically different approach and has different attack patterns?
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>>338965569
>Only PS4 users can play 3 best rated games
>crying PS4 wojak

? Only losers here are PCucks.
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>>338971987
But DDDA has potions and other items to use as well on top of the myriad of skills, like various potions, buff items, etc. It also has a more robust crafting system as well, there are dozens upon dozens upon dozens of items that can all be combined in a number of ways to produce different items. I don't think I've come across a single collectible/loot item that could not be combined in some way to produce something else. And of course there are other vocations beyond fighter that all have their own skills, spells, etc. as well.

Look, I get what you're saying, but the fact that these limitations had to be in place doesn't change the fact that they make for rather shallow and limited combat. Doesn't matter why it's bad, it's still bad. And even then I'd argue they could have done a lot more with the combat despite those alleged limitations. Geralt could have more than ~4 sword attacks and still remain faithful to the game's lore. If Witchers are supposed to be master swordsmen and twirl around like dancers, then let's see some more of that.
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>>338972520
They don't
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>>338972656
They do
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Since the expansion comes out in a week, I wanna start playing it again to familiarize myself with the game since it's been a while.
What are the most fun/op builds and what armor set goes with it?
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>>338972173
>ballerina cuhrazy

Yeah that's Sapkowski trying to give the Witchers a more badass flair. Their mutations, training and potions make them so superior to humans, no matter if it's a highly trained soldier in plate or bandit, they don't even need to fight efficiently but can just twirl their blade and dance around. But still, what i meant with semi-authentic was to exclude all the JRPG style crazy games simply because they're going for something completely different than the Witcher. You could compare Assassins Creeds sword combat to Witcher, or the Arkham titles if Batman had a sword.
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>>338972684
Nope.

And even if I entertain this notion, you have like 4 attacks and a parry/roll and a tiny, tiny handful of spells at your disposal. The game does not allow for "radically different approaches" because your options are so few and are not radically different.
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>>338972487
Bloodborne
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>>338972826
I loved that in Bloodborne I had to stick to boss side while rolling and using the same tactic. That blew my mind with how complex and fantastic combat variety in games could be
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>>338959505
Frog? use igni while frog tries to spit, it explodes in its mouth. End of story
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>>338972743

There is no less crazy shit in DDDA for Fighter/Warrior than there is in Witcher 3. They have the same kind of exaggerated animations. The only thing you can argue is that the weapons for Warrior are fuck huge but in terms of animations, you aren't doing things like swinging at the speed of light or anything.
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>>338972551
>If Witchers are supposed to be master swordsmen and twirl around like dancers, then let's see some more of that.

Well you have combo attacks. You can mix heavy and light attacks, it's terribly stupid because you'd have to be legally retarded to not focus on one style(armor and talents have bonuses that affect only light or heavy), but it's possible.
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>>338973019
>Deflecting this hard
BB is a watered-down Dark Souls. Nice try.
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>>338972875
Like that staring nun, amirite? Or all of the NPC's talking without moving their lips XD
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>>338972826
The signs are very different and drastically effect combat, you have signs, two different dodges, light and heavy attacks, different types of bombs, potions, oils, armor and weapon stats, and the crossbow. That is the textbook definition of combat variation and on top of all that different enemy types force you to actually combine all of them or find the most efficient one for a specific type. Humans behave radically different from beasts, beasts are distinct from monsters, each of those three categories has a good amount of variation in enemy types. Its a good variety and has lots of depth learning each monsters attack pattern then using all the tools at your disposal.
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>>338973275
Implying Dark Souls is any better lmao
Le evade and stab: the game
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>>338956297
t.someone who hasn't played TW3
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>>338972551
So you want every game to play the same? I'm not sure I understand what metric you're using for good and bad combat.

Fallout combat is very shallow, only allowing for general attacks and targeted attacks. It doesn't hold a candle to some of your more advanced turn-based games, but that doesn't mean it's bad. It's still perfectly satisfying and does nothing to detract from the experience.
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>>338959505
I thought fighting the sandnigger army without healing was harder desu
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>>338973334
Again, you have ALL that in DDDA in spades. That's my point, Witcher's combat is extremely limited when compared to that game. Two vocations have more variety and utility than everything Geralt can do. Fighter alone shits all over Witcher's sword combat in terms of complexity, utility and diversity, any of the blue vocations have more variation in their magic/spells. And every vocation has access to various potions, buff/offensive items, etc.
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>>338964867
Kek. I played ps4 version and it was sweet. On pc there is button to lock/unlock target. They explain it to you in first 2 minutes of the fucking game
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>>338973072
>aren't doing things like swinging at the speed of light or anything
But you're charging an attack for 10 seconds that throws chunks of soil into the air. That is crazy. If it weren't for the Arc and the comically oversized swords i'd say you're right but Witcher is still a game focused on 1on5 sword combat(unless you're fighting a boss monster).

A regular fight again human enemies works like this: Shield guy, two handed weapon guy, archer in the back and a couple regular sword fighters. Axii one, circle around to the archers, maybe throw a bomb or two and start counter-attacking and sidestepping. That is it basically. You could also chop down a few with attacks from horseback or burn them with igni.
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>>338973456
>So you want every game to play the same?
If that were the case I'd be playing The Witcher 3 :^)

But seriously, where did you pull that from? Oh, right, your ass.
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>>338973697
I dont know what DDDA is honestly, but its irrelevant. The fact that better games exist doesn't make this one bad. Like every game in existence has to be better than another unrelated one to be worth someone's time. I dont agree with that sentiment, bringing other games into the conversation is absolutely irrelevant and the combat in Witcher 3 is great, I literally only see it called not only bad but awful here on /v/'s hugbox and nowhere else.
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>>338953829
No I don't think so but you're allowed to have your opinion.
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