>shills make me want to buy it
>anti shills make me think it'll be dead in months
I honestly don't know if I want this or not.
>Another 6 v 6 "competitive" game where nobody works together to complete objectives
It's boring, frustrating and riddled with microtransactions. Don't do it.
Just watch some youtube gameplay videos.
>Letting a bunch of cynical, game hating nobodies on the net tell you what's good or not
Decide on your own, dude.
>>338880768
Just wait until it goes F2P
>>338881057
>Riddled with microtransactions.
Oh boy buying loot boxes is pretty much necessary for regular human cognitive function isn't it?
Ask yourself what you want out of it, and consider the price. I asked myself these questions, which are important to me with competitive games:
Does the game demand critical thinking from the player?
Does the game allow for a variety of playstyles/approaches?
Most importantly, does the game have a high enough skill ceiling that will allow me to feel my skill progress over time?
The last question is really important to me felt like a "No," so I decided to pass.
>>338881057
>pick reinhardt and win the game buy yourself
>>338881057
Honestly, is one microtransaction function "riddled"?
>Play with randoms
>decimate defending team
>Join up with friends later
>Defending team
>get absolutely destroyed
God dammit
>>338880768
>>338881057
This.
Don't forget a 40-60$ tag as well, should've been free to play.
>>338880768
They're both right.
I'm having a blast playing it right now, but it doesn't seem like it has lasting appeal.
>>338880768
it's a team based game that is marketed towards ASSFAGGOTS players and blizzdrones
swerve
i wanna see the frequency of updates and new content before i consider buying it because currently i feel like there is too little content.
>>338881057
> microtransactions
This meme needs to die, it's for fucking aesthetics (that you can also unlock for free) not gameplay stuff.
>dead in months
it's already dead
They'll add more heroes, maps, game modes over time so it'll do just fine
>>338881807
>couldn't even beat LoL
lol
>>338880768
>>anti shills make me think it'll be dead in months
And 40 dollars for months of gameplay isnt worth it? what the fuck is wrong with you?
>>338881491
This. With only two game modes it might get stale fast.
>>338881057
>riddled with microtransactions
>i literally don't know how to form my own opinion
>>338880768
The quick ability to get into a game and overall polish makes it a good base game to play when you aren't playing some new indieshit or the latest single player game.
Everytime I finish playing I get the desire to open it up again.
If you already have something like that it may be best to wait and see but it does fill that role well.
>>338880768
>anti shills make me think it'll be dead in months
There's literally no reason to be able to predict this, it's the only thing they have going for them, the fact that it wont last forever like TF2 did. Playing a game for a few months of fun is plenty acceptable.
That said I'd only necessarily recommend it if you have friends.
>>338880768
Give it a month, right now there are so many casual fuckers playing, you'll do nothing but rage when your team sucks total fucking shit.
>>338881057
>riddled with micro transactions
>boxes that you get every level up anyways
>this is the price we pay for all future maps, modes, and heroes being free
is this a bad thing or something?
>>338880768
buy it
play it
didn't like it? get a refund
do you want me to teach you how to breathe next?
>>338882507
that is the fun part, once the casuals leave the game is dead and boring or everyone get so good that it gets boring.
>>338882878
This. Playing against stupid fuckers is fun
>>338880768
Rent it (or pirate) and find out
>>338884065
>pirating a multiplayer game
>>338880768
Its not about 'anti shills' or 'shills'
People who are actually playing it are saying its fun, and "people" who cant afford it are saying its shit, simply because they are jealous. So there you go
>>338884270
At least I don't ask shitty, subjective questions about video games on a Chinese anime forum
>>338884270
It worked for about a month when Payday 2 was first released.
>>338882679
Remember when games had maps, modes, and heroes without microtransactions? I do, because I'm not 16 years old.
>>338881480
"Overwatch should be a free to play game with no microtransactions"
t. expert economist
>>338884548
Anon, you're silly. This website is for people aged 18+. I can't be 16.
Of course I do. That's why Overwatch is so great, because games now a days have too much DLC and it's awful
>>338881480
>Wanting F2P
People are shitty as is, I don't want any BRs or cyka blyats on my team making things worse.
>>338881304
Reinhardt is one of the easiest tanks to shut down.
>bait his charge
>can walk through his shield and shoot him
>shield can be focused in 2 seconds with any explosive class
>>338881304
Wassup fellow Reinhardt player.
>>338881057
Try playing the game next time kid maybe if you save up you can afford it used at gamestop.
>>338881807
>Uses Twitch views to try and say it's dead.
>Been constantly switching from from second most viewed to the first most.
wew.
>>338881807
no one watches it because everyone is playing it
>>338881807
>>338885538
>twitch
>watching games
name one blizzard game that died in the last 15 years.
>>338884974
This.
>play during beta
>shit niggers and kids spazzing out sort of running around trying to play hero by themselves
>EVERY FUCKING GAME
>paywall goes up
>Suddenly teams start coming together, using the voice chat and communicating, playing as a team.
Rarely ever now do I see more than one reaper on a team, but someone will usually ask them to change, and they actually will.
$40 is a small price to pay for making Overwatch great again.Now we just need to remove Mei.
>>338886078
>>paywall goes up
>>Suddenly teams start coming together, using the voice chat and communicating, playing as a team.
hasn't happened much during the beta. you're delusional
>>338881492
>ASSFAGGOTS
Why do you type like that? What exactly are you trying to convey?
>>338885369
I think that's the joke he is trying to make, since it actually rose by 30k viewers since this morning.
>>338885369
>>338885538
Keeping in mind some "pro" league players, and tournaments use view bots to inflate the numbers like crazy.
I'm glad it's $60. Keeps the F2P MOBA shitters out. It's like a tall wall around a mansion to keep the poorfags out. If it was F2P the community would be shit. The saving grace of this game is the fact that it's casual and easy like a MOBA but has none of the shitter MOBA F2P community. So it's like playing golf at an exclusive golf club instead of playing minigolf at a ghetto minigolf course full of toxic shitters.
>>338886078
>>Suddenly teams start coming together, using the voice chat and communicating, playing as a team.
Literally no one ever talks or coordinates.
>having to have a group of people tell you what or what not to get
Literally kill yourself, you low brow sheep.
>>338885989
For awhile Diablo 3 had less concurrent players than Diablo 2 did. Also Blizzdrones will eat anything Blizzard shits out.
>>338886117
>>338886413
Sounds like you guys are just getting shitty teams, nearly all of mine have been great.
>>338886678
either you have a premade or you're bullshitting.
Just forget about it, wait a month, enter a thread were it is brought up, and ask all the questions you have about it.
That's pretty much the best way to see if a game is worth it or not.
>>338887273
>"It doesn't happen to me so it doesn't happen"
That's what you sound like.
>>338886440
He needs to go fuck traingirl again.
>>338881864
literally nothing beats LoL unless hearthstone csgo or dota 2 have a huge tournmanet and league doesn't.
>>338886078
>>paywall goes up
>>Suddenly teams start coming together, using the voice chat and communicating, playing as a team.
liar
>>338880768
>dead in months
The droniest of blizzdrones will play this shit, don't be stupid. I have no clue if you'll enjoy it, but I'll say that much.
>>338887624
>Not the crazy milf hairdresserd-do you have the name of this? I haven't read it in months and I'm terrible at finding Korean Manwha
![s02e11_viva_los_muertos.mkv_snapshot_06.01_[2016.05.18_12.11.04].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/uyd6Xw2.jpg "s02e11_viva_los_muertos.mkv_snapshot_06.01_[2016.05.18_12.11.04].jpg")
>>338881057
>>338881480
>riddled with microtransactions
>you can get boxes for free
>you get maps, heroes and etc for free
>>338881807
I'm shocked LoL is even still popular. is it just women streaming it now or something?
>>338887546
not him but I just finished playing it and you're full of shit
>>338887921
Sweet Guy, YoManga would probably be best place to red it.
Hairdresser was pretty great too, I'll agree with you there.
>>338886167
It's just le fun acronym because they refuse to use the term MOBA
>>338881226
>giving real answers on /v/
>>338888183
How did they get ASSFAGOTS from MOBA?
>>338887982
>>338887712
I'm playing now and fuck you.
You just have to be the first one to speak 90% of the time and suddenly everybody pipes up.
>>338888620
Aeon of Strife Styled Fortress Assault Game Going On Two Sides
As said, le fun acronym
>>338880768
If you want to play a fun game, buy it.
If you don't want a fun game to play, don't buy it.
It has a stupid high player base. How is it going to die anytime soon?
>>338880768
>shill
It's pretty obvious what side you're on for using that word.
>>338889162
>it has a stupid high player base. How is it going to die anytime soon?
Don't fool yourself, it'll die in a couple months. Once the hype dies down, the problems that this game has will no longer be silenced and people will realize that this game a shit. Kids will go back to CoD, many will go back to TF2
>>338880768
Blizzard games don't really die. HotS has a pretty strong player base despite what people will tell you.
So, what will be the NEXT TF2 killer?
>>338880768
Dude red orchestra has like 300 players and the game is still great, at least overwatch is fun and will last for a good while.
For me this is my casual ps4 shooter, something to have a go here and there,
>>338889162
>It has a stupid high player base
Blizzard never releases info on concurrent players.
>>338884548
I haven't even played this game and even i know none of that shit is hidden behind microtransaction you retard
>>338889798
By virtue of being a Blizzard game you know its high. Plus the fact that its brand ass new.
>>338880768
Already refunded it its a shallow piece of shit and the only content worth unlocking is hidden behind a scam for microtransactions and blizzcucks are obnoxious
>>338889798
You can infer player counts pretty easily by looking at discussion board post frequencies.
>>338889572
Post the PC metacritic score you coward.
>>338889871
Its the principle. What's stopping ActiBlizz from pushing new heroes & maps (cause it seems that they're not gonna do custom loadouts FFS) behind a paywall.
>>338889943
Are you on console? Because I want to refund my PC copy.
>>338890069
PC I owned it between monday and today and they gave me one.
Blizz supp is probably one of the best now days.
>>338889923
>By virtue of being a Blizzard game you know its high
HotS and SC2 are pretty much dead.
>>338889572
>PS4
Did you enjoy TF2? Maybe you got tired of TF2 now? Are you looking for a new casual FPS? Go get it. It will not be dead, simply because it is a blizgame and blizz hooks their games to life support machines if they have to. Infact, if you want an FPS that you can come back for the next 5 years I'd recommend it, too.
Main reason NOT to buy it I would say is that it has pretty crappy value for the price and knowing blizz you can expect expansionpacks or more incentives to pay in the future. There is absolutely no reason for you to go buy overwatch if you are already having fun with another FPS, overwatch isn't really able to replace anything.
>>338889572
TF2 is pretty much dead anyways.
>>338890195
SC2 has 20k people playing right now, which isn't a lot. But it's more than games like Payday 2 or Killing Floor 2.
>>338882507
This is actually true.
>playing match, on the attack. winston is literally standing back at spawn point defending
>>338882507
But you're matched with people who are at your level. Waiting isn't going to change anything.
>>338886167
>>338888620
>hasn't heard ASSFAGGOTS before
Newfag pls go
>>338888183
>>338888781
>spoonfeeding
Take this guy with you
>>338880768
its evolve on steroids.
Do not buy it, it is slowly following the same path.
>>338880768
The only people who like overwatch are the waifu faggots.
The game is bland and boring, with no redeeming qualities but smiling digital females to appeal to the virgins.
Blizzard is exploiting you. Dont fall for it.
Don't buy it
>>338890892
See, I knew assfaggots meant MOBA, I just didn't get how those spammy retards got the name for it.
>>338880768
>Normal /v/ posters are loving it.
>Neet /v/ is absolutely buttblasted, raging about price.
Draw your own conclusions, OP.
>>338892490
Why though? Why pay $40+ for a game that's, as far as i know, only online?
>>338892490
Normies tend to be shit at video games so I can see why they would enjoy a brain dead game like this.
>>338890336
they've confirmed and stressed that future modes, maps, and heroes are free, because they never want to separate the community between who has what feature ,etc.
>>338881327
... And for content which can be earned via playing the fucking game.
To a NEET, yeah that's rampant microtrans abuse.
Shit, a skin might cost them their entire weeks GBP.
>Caring what /v/ says
Wew lad, I'm gonna need a bigger bucket of popcorn.
But in all seriousness, do NOT base your opinion on anything /v/ says. Form your own opinion with some research. Watch some gameplay footage. Learn about the game a little.
If it sounds like what you like, buy it.
If it sounds like something you wouldn't like, don't.
>>338880768
is there any indication that the enemy team is walling with widowmakers ult?
seems kind of op if there isn't
>>338894652
There is, but for some fucking reason, Blizzard did something retarded.
Instead of making her Ult a global sound, like EVERY OTHER ONE IN THE GAME, it has a vocal range, so if you are within a certain radius of her, you'll hear it, but only you. Even though it's arguably the worst Ult in the game to fight against, because it punishes smart flanking and if the team is good, makes it impossible to do shit for the duration.
And then add in she's literally the 100% best character by a wide margin means she's a mandatory pick if you want to win versus a decent team.
>>338884548
>Remember when games had maps, modes, and heroes without microtransactions?
Yes
>Remember when games ADDED maps, modes, and heroes POST-LAUNCH for free?
No.
They typically didn't release new maps and heroes until they had saved up enough to sell as an expansion
The boxes you get from microtransactions are all 100% cosmetic shit which don't affect gameplay at all. Cosmetic shit which barely even existed in games back then. Once in a blue moon, you'd get a game that let you select a color, but nothing like new 2-4 new costumes per character and dozens of voice lines and animations.
>calling other people young when you're either young yourself or so fucking old you have alzheimers
>>338894976
It makes sense, if it was announced like all the others, the opposite team would readjust instantly and almost no advantage would be gained.
All it takes is for one person to be killed by anyone on the opposite team while her ult is up to notice it on the kill cam and simply communicate it to their team.
Rmember when you bought a game and just had fun?
Looks like nobody does that anymore
>crying over 40 dolaroos
Get a job neets
>>338881115
>Buy game to decide for myself
>It was a horrible mistake
>I am now $40 poorer
Thank you tripfag you are my greatest ally.
>>338880768
Watch a stream of some guy playing for 10 minutes.
If that doesn't make you realize the game will be stale and boring within a month tops then I can't help you.
The game is polished and all but jesus christ it has the depth of a small puddle.
>>338881209
>>338881327
>>338894376
>>338881749
>>338882679
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiFagoBfX6Y
>>338895968
Yeah, I also remember when I bought games and they sucked.
Fortunately nowadays I can inform myself before buying games. Which made me dodge Overwatch. Not even worth 10 dollars.
>>338894376
>rampant microtrans abuse.
SOMEBODY CALL POLYGON
>>338896129
Then it's your mistake.
No one should ever listen to /v/. Even when /v/ has good ideas, they are usually horrible regardless.
>>338887941
It's still the most watched esport by a mile. When you have jews from ESPN trying to broadcast your games on TV you're doing pretty well for yourself.
As far as tits stream go, the most popular ones get like 10k viewers. The majority of viewers go to pros or ex pros.
>>338880768
Remember that toy you wanted so much because it's so shiny, new and all cool kids in the block had it and your mom bought it because you cried a lot?
It's same with Overwatch. It's shiny, new and all cool kids seem to have it, but like that toy, you'll play with it for a few hours then toss it to a corner.
>>338895456
Fair enough. Microtransactions still diminish the game experience and people should stop drinking the kool-aid and saying it's "optional" and doesn't affect the game at all.
(I'm not >>338884548)
>>338896635
You mean like the Christmas I got a Ghostbusters proton pack and trap and a couple Ghostbusters action figures and it was the happiest Christmas of my entire life and is still a fondly glowing memory these 20+ years later and I've kept the toys with me through all the years and looking at them still brings me pleasure?
Well h*ck yeah I'm gonna buy Overwatch now!
>>338881807
a-anyone remember Starcraft?
>>338896649
>people should stop saying it's "optional" and doesn't affect the game at all.
But both of those things are true. It's optional, and none of it has any affect on the gameplay mechanics
>Buy the game once, get all heroes and all future heroes
This should be applauded. They did microtransactions the right way - not like league of legends where you have to grind/buy each individual champion.
>>338897649
We've entered such murky waters I can't tell if this post is genuine, or a sillybilly trying to rile up more anti-Overwatch sentiment by posting retarded shit.
>>338897649
Yes, it's just /v/ shitposters looking for ANY reason to farm (You)s.
Ignore them, Anon.
While it could have been better, it's far from bad as is.
>>338896635
Ah yes, I remember how kids in grade school were analyzing how long they would be able to play with that toy before they eventually got tired of it. Many an hour I spent personally with graph paper trying to figure out how long I can effectively enjoy Batman in a white suit with dual-action harpoon and skis for easy Mister Freeze fighting.
If he was joined by one of the Ninja Turtles or Goku, then I could probably have gotten an extra 2 hours of it, easy.
People here need to relax. Just ask yourself: "Would I have fun with this game? Yes? Then I'll buy it and play it for however long I have fun with it. No? Then I'll pass, no harm done." That's it. There's no need for fucking math trying to figure out how long you would enjoy it or how long it is until $40 becomes too much of an investment. Just say yes or no and be done with it.
>>338897803
No, it is genuine. You don't have to grind for or buy anything that's gameplay relevant. It's all unlocked from the start. The microtransactions are only for cosmetic stuff which is easily ignored.
Compare to league where you have to grind for runes and grind or buy champions.
I'm getting sick and tired of mercy fags.
Stop fucking sitting on a sniper and using your shitty damage boost and letting me the tank die you fucking retarded sacks of shit.
DO YOUR FUCKING JOB AND HEAL YOU USELESS FUCKING NOOB CUNTS OR IF YOU SUCK SO MUCH ASS YOU CANT PLAY MERCY FUCKING SWITCH TO LUCIO GOD DAMMIT
>>338897829
>>338897939
>>338897803
How is it retarded? Releasing all future heroes and maps for no extra cost is good on them.
Microtransactions in an already buy-to-play game is dumb, but it's not like people are buying damage buffs so I couldn't care less.
>>338880768
Do you like TF2? Do you like mobas? Do you like FPS? if you answered yes to any of these questions you will like Overwatch. It has its flaws like all games but holy fuck is good. Better than most of the trash out these days
Even though this game has 20 characters or something and TF2 only has 9, TF2 seems deeper for some reason.
>>338881807
Guild Wars 2 is the second or third most played MMORPG right now, and it has almost zero twitch presence
>>338898005
useless cuck tank mains LOL
>>338898259
>but holy fuck is good.
please stop this fucking meme. The game is good for 3 hours at most and then it loses all of its excitement. The depth to Overwatch is so close to zero its staggering.
>>338896129
You don't have to buy it to decide for yourself, retard. Never heard of gameplay no commentary channels? Or you just don't go there because /v/ says "hurr durr cancer"?
This place is eating your brain, get some time off.
>>338898506
>tfw me and my friends have played for over 300 hours total in the past few months
>>338898005
Hahaha git gud kid. My right click benefits the group more than my left click on you.
>>338897320>>338897897
>Well h*ck yeah I'm gonna buy Overwatch now!
>People here need to relax. Just ask yourself
How much does your company pay you for shilling? I'm broke and would work for 5 cents (Euro) per post.
>>338898425
>TFW I wanted a second installment of guild wars taking place 250 years in the future.
>Instead i got a MMO using the guild wars name, some of the lore, and nothing else
>>338898506
I am thoroughly enjoying it and I've gotten about 15 hours throughout the stress test, open beta, and launch.
I'm not saying your opinion is wrong. Just making sure it's known that your experience is not the same as everyone else's.
>>338898595
Was there monetary compensation involved?
Please say yes
>>338898697
I mean, if you shitpost for free now, why start trying to charge for it?
>>338880768
>Wait some months
>See what happens with the game then
GEE, THAT WAS FUCKING HARD, WASN'T IT?
>>338898765
>how can anyone have fun playing games?
Hyped as hell personally. When will this come out for Wii U?
>>338898827
Because it could actually make money?
>>338898645
Shitty bait
Mercys right click is fucking dog shit and you should be healing
>>338898505
I have single handedly won the game at the end with Winston loads of times, he's very good.
>tfw you realize that the only reason ults are in the game is to give shitters a press Q and kill people button so they can feel like they're special for a few seconds
>>338897587
This is why what you're saying is a fallacy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHszeYz5Mi0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiFagoBfX6Y
>>338899035
You'll never shitpost for profit, anon.
You will always do it for free.
>>338898259
>mobas
It doesn't really have anything to do with mobas.
>>338899108
>They press Q
>You kill them before it does anything and/or totally shut them out
Ults are in as a strategic element more than anything.
"When are they going to use it?"
"When am I going to use it?"
"Where?"
"Will it benefit the objective/net me a billion kills?"
Etc.
Cause all Ults can be countered except for one.
on cdkeys i found the cheapst for 48€
is there a cheaper one somewhere?
>>338899185
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHszeYz5Mi0
Jesus Christ, Pepe really let himself go. Where did it all go so wrong?
>>338899185
>expecting someone to watch 40 minutes of video
>can't actually sum it up on your own
This is taking the "regurgitate someone else's argument" that happens here all the time to a new low.
Also, "optional" is an objective trait. You don't have to buy it. Nobody has to buy it. Everything you can get from it is attainable without spending real money. I'm 50 credits away from being able to buy whatever legendary skin I want for the character I play the most, and I've only been playing it for a couple of days. It's objectively optional
The fact absolutely nothing you can get from the chests affects the gameplay mechanics in any way is also 100% completely objectively true as well.
There's no fallacy here.
So far I have a blast with the game.
The only thing that bugs me is how shitty the maps are.
The best maps are ok at best.
I really get the feeling that this are some leftovers from Titan because I could imagine that all the maps would fit MMO citys pretty good.
>>338900094
Besides, even Jimbo there admits that Overwatch's lootcrate system, while unfortunate, does not detract from the overall experience. It's more like a blemish to an otherwise fantastic game.
I think that's the important thing to remember: the lootcrates are a bad system, but it's not going to detract from the core of the game, which is the gameplay. And people are loving the gameplay. That's what people really mean when they say the cosmetics don't matter/are optional.
If the lootcrates had a chance to bring out a gun for Widowmaker that lets her use her ultimate faster or something, then it gets to the point of gameplay-changing bullshit that should die immediately.
>>338896635
That's what i did actually. It was good for 2 hours, but it gets stale fast. I wish I played beta.
Honestly the biggest problem with this game are the players. It's an objective based game and most of the time you get team mates that think its team deathmatch. I've never been more annoyed playing a shooter than overwatch before, I'm just going to stop till competitive mode comes out and maybe try again to see if people that play that aren't completely retarded.
>>338881807
you are telling us that lol is better than the other games listed? are you fuckign stupid? you think popularity in that fucking caner shit web is going to be the source of the truth?
>>338899290
Yeah, I should go sell some loot crates :<
i just realized its just piratefags mad they can't pirate it so they make endless threads because butthurt
>>338900647
From what I've heard with the closed beta, people learned after level 20 or so that the best way to win is to be able to adapt to the situations.
Most people below that stick with their favorite characters and play them all the way through regardless of their actual usability. I have a sneaking suspicion that people don't know about the hero-switching mechanic until like level 5 or so, or simply don't care.
Overwatch is infinitely better when you're playing with people who know what they're doing, so I think competitive will be the ticket whenever it comes out.
Think the game would also benefit from a mode like Mann vs. Machine. A team of 6 having to deal with an onslaught of NPCs.
>>338901115
or people actually dislike the game because of its shallow gameplay and content?
>>338899349
>hear junkrat tire
>literally no enemies around the cap
>tire turns the corner and gets fucking wasted immediately
>Ryuu ga waga teki wo suu! while no one is attempting to contest the cap
>everyone just side-steps it
>>338901270
That's adorable.
>>338900980
Yes. It's a neutral platform.
>>338901270
why would people who dislike it continue to post threads about a game they aren't gonna play?
where can i find a the cheapest cd key for pc?
>>338901510
Because fuck you and the things you like, that's why
>>338899349
>>338899108
>Blizzard
>>338880768
Did you play the beta? If you did was it fun?
Now, if you answered yes to both of those questions, ask yourself do you still want to play it? If so then fucking buy it wow
>>338901576
memes never really die, they fade and age into full form
>>338880768
It won't die, it's fucking Blizzard. If it did fail it would be a first for them.
>>338901576
I wish you'd shitpost harder. Despite being so uninterested in the game during the open beta I only played a couple days, I'm half kicking around the idea of spending $40 and picking it up just because I haven't really got any other MP shooters worth even half a shit like Overwatch.
I readily admit TF2's a lot better, but I've also played the living fuck out of TF2 and can't be assed to go back.
CSGO is fine, but it's still CS-like and I played the hell out of that as a HL1 mod.
Modern Battlefield games are garbage that has moved away from large vehicle-heavy maps and in to half-assed CoD/CS gameplay.
CoD MP was fun, but much like CS it hasn't changed much over the years and I haven't bought one in a long fucking time.
Natural Selection 2 was great but the community died because they launched unoptimized and fucked up.
Quake and Unreal in various forms, good, played a lot, not much fun against randos any more.
Overwatch is tempting me simply by virtue of being ever so slightly different from TF2 and being passable in a dark bar and I'm horny and if I'm getting a blowjob I won't grab it on the head since that might move the wig around and spoil the illusion but this is all I have.
>>338899185
Watched the Jimquisition one. Everything he says like "it's unacceptable" can be responded to with "Why? Because he says so?"
My favorite part was
>"No game company ever makes microtransactions optional because they DON'T want you to buy them"
A dev wouldn't add a colorblind mode to the options because they DON'T want anyone to ever use it, either. It doesn't mean it's not optional. The logic here is flawed. Nobody ever adds options expecting nobody to use them, yet somehow when money is involved, it's "no longer optional"
>>338902267
thanks for the blog, mashing that like & share bro
>>338902471
Thanks for the validation, I'll make more posts like this in the future. Assuming I'm not too busy. Got plans tomorrow, you see. I did some grocery shopping today but I only hit Aldi's and I've still got some more stuff I wanna pick up elsewhere. Caramel syrup to put in my cappuccinos for example, and I was thinking about picking up a bag of pierogies for supper 'cause I haven't had them in a while and hot damn if pierogies aren't tasty as hell.
>>338880768
I want it but out of principle I won't buy it until a sale or price cut.
>>338880768
>he didn't try the open beta when he had a chance
Braindead
>>338896129
Sorry you did not like the game I love it find a critic you trust as /v/ is a worse critic then Anita Sarkeesian
>>338901341
This fag understands. Ults are tools, not "hit to win" buttons.
Although, I do wonder. How would a game revolving around a "hit to win" button mechanic work?
>Everyone gets a "Win" button
>First to hit it wins
>Every round after the first, which usually last mere seconds, will feature some twist or advancement stacking on top of every previous round
>Can be anything from "Hold to kill anyone who presses the Win button" to "Simon Says to Win"
>You can see everyone else's screen, 4 way split and what button they're pressing if any
>>338881115
The beauty of this post is that he never specified which side he is portraying as cynical. It's a beautiful mirror.
>>338902326
>>338899185
Also, another pattern I'm noticing about both of these videos is that their stance on cosmetic microtransactions is based on the cosmetics being ONLY available through microtransactions; they talk about how buying a fancy costume creates an air of classism between those who have and haven't put up front real money.
This classism doesn't exist when everyone's getting their costumes from the same RNG pool, regardless of whether or not they spent real money. Their argument doesn't apply here.
R8 M8S highlight intro was hammer down
>>338903814
This picture is magnificent.
>>338903814
>50 coins
I assume you bought a Leggo?
Decent box overall.
>>338903982
i bought a bunch of blue and purple skins
>>338880768
Played the beta and while it was fun for a few hours, it got very old, very quickly. Here's the rundown:
>The skill ceiling is incredibly low
>There isn't much to do, there's hardly any maps/game modes
>Whoever created the maps knows next to nothing about actual game design, they're all basically corridors with little to no possibilities to flank and a heavy focus on 1-2 choke points
>There's a ton of characters but each one is incredibly shallow, there needed to be a lot fewer dudes with more varied weapons/abilities on each one
>The matchmaking is atrocious, you will always either be matched with barely-functional subhumans or autist turbonerds
>The balance is laughable at best, several characters are outright useless and a few are flagrantly overpowered
>Referring to the above, the community is also shit. They pretend OP characters aren't OP because "well I'm so 1337 I can counter that" but you could literally be the best team NA with 5 Bastions and anyone who disagrees just plain sucks at video games
TL;DR - It's not better than TF2 and you're probably already bored with TF2, so why would you play a shitty knockoff? Spend your 40 bucks on 2 indie games, you'll get more longevity if you pick 2 good ones.
>>338904285
Anon....
>>338901270
Shallow game play is a iffy criticism
I do see the potential for alot of depth forming from synergys, Counters and the amount of flank routs is insane if you use your movement ability's (as genji you just dash through a choke point then climb a wall and run right to the objective and watch the defence brake as they try to kill you while your team who are just trying to run through the choke point get in when the defense is weeker its like holding a door open for some retard who keeps running into it)
But right now people are to fucking stupid to take advantage of this so alot of the depth there is in the game can not be experienced right now because of casuals
This is why I have a issue with blizzards low skill floor high skill ceiling mindset It lets tards like in the house
>>338904285
>not saving up for legendaries
>>338904505
im a compulsive buyerthats why i don't own any sort of credit card
>>338904725
Alright, fair enough. At least you know how to limit yourself.
>>338881057
>all these replies focusing on the microtransactions
Fact remains that unless you have a group of friends to play with exclusively, its going to suck.
>>338904883
And you also need friends to play on the other team because that's what will going to happen.
>inb4 Overwatch exclusive 12 pack
>>338887712
The truth fucking hurts I see a GOTY contender under this but it is a team based game where no one knows how to play the fucking game or work as a team when some kid who sounded like he was 12 was the only person who I found who actually communicated and tried to play as a team then something is wrong or I just have shit luck
When I hit level 25 i'll see what competitive is like hopefully people there can play the game
Did I just have bad luck tonight, was playing with a friend, my first time playing since open beta because I was out of town, and out of like 7-9 games we continuously had shitty teammates, useless hanzo's, a torb on offense. We were on Dorado and we were a mercy/pharah combo, we wiped out their entire backline yet our entire team was held back by a single Mei. I know it just came out, but I figured people would be a little experienced from open beta, it was awful tonight.
>The microtransactions are just cosmetics, so it's okay!
No, it fucking isn't you braindead mouth-breathers.
This is exactly how the publisher wants you to think, 10 years ago no one would have made this argument. But you've successfully been conditioned to accept DLC/microtransactions that wall off previously in-game unlockable content, and it's only going to get worse from here.
Players broke games (EvE) to refuse microtransactions, so shills, stop acting like you're going to convince people that microtransactions are OK. They're not OK and they never will be.
>>338904492
>>The skill ceiling is incredibly low
>>characters shallow
relative to what?
>>338904492
>died to a bastion
>srsly bad
whatever man, don't be mad you're bad... get gud
>>338905375
>10 years ago no one would have made this argument
10 Fucking years ago games did not cost nearly as much to make
10 Fucking years ago free content updates where not common
Want me to go on
>>338905375
10 years ago I was addicted to wow and paid 25 bucks to transfer servers
>>338905375
>that wall off previously in-game unlockable content
Well good thing that this cosmetics are in-game unlockable content.
>>338905758
>10 Fucking years ago games did not cost nearly as much to make
Correction: 10 years ago marketing costs were not as high as development budget.
That explains why we are seeing traveling salesman all over internet.
>>338896649
What breed of trash bin /v/ are you
>>338905758
>10 Fucking years ago games did not cost nearly as much to make
Yes, they did, the publisher just didn't take that development budget and double it for the marketing campaign. The US dollar is worth 40% less than it was in the mid-1990's.
>http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/Most_expensive_video_games
Obviously take this with a grain of salt, but games today cost as much as they do because of their massive marketing campaigns. Games in the 90's could still cost tens of millions to make, adjust that for inflation and it's absolutely comparable to development costs today.
FF7, for example, had a development budget of ~$45 million, that would be almost $70 million today and wouldn't even count the marketing.
Halo 4 had a development budget of ~$100 million, that would only be about $65 million in the late 90's which, again, is comparable.
And then there's manufacturing costs, which were astronomically higher back then due to carts and, packaging etc. Capcom spent almost $400 million manufacturing SFII carts. Digital distribution is becoming more and more prevalent and cuts back on costs immensely.
tl;dr: Numbers say you're stupid.
>>338905573
Most other shooters? Very few games in the genre (popular, successful ones anyway) have a "press this button to kill a bunch of guys near you" button in them. The rock-paper-scissors dynamic also makes it a little difficult for one player to truly run the match because there's always going to be 1-2 active characters at any given time that are direct counters and have a significant advantage vs that guy, even if the person playing them is godawful.
>>338905645
>tries to counter a point
>illustrates it perfectly
Hahaha it's funny how mad this game's defenders are that "if I memorize the turret's location and rush it with my entire team including at least 2 tanks, we have a 50/50 chance of killing it!" isn't a counter to "this character is overpowered." I stand by the statement, a 5 Bastion team is better than any other team comp.
The fact that Blizzard of all fucking companies doesn't think it's OP should immediately indicate to you that it is, in fact, broken as fuck. Go read some WoW patch notes for keks, these clowns don't know shit about vidya.
>>338905375
>M-microtransactions are bad because are bad in the future
Nice argument
>>338906826
>I stand by the statement, a 5 Bastion team is better than any other team comp.
That's how things panned out in beta. We started with 1 bastion and were winning, enemy team got 2 bastions and started winning, we got a second bastion and started winning, they got a third and won the match.
>>338906826
>comparing it to a typical shooter, not something in between entirely
> The rock-paper-scissors dynamic also makes it a little difficult for one player to truly run the match because there's always going to be 1-2 active characters at any given time that are direct counters and have a significant advantage vs that guy, even if the person playing them is godawful.
wow, that sounds like a lot of skill is involved in staying alive while killing
>>338880768
The game is going to be dead in 3 months tops. Another failure from neo-Blizzard.
>>338907109
>M-microtransactions are bad because are bad in the future
Want to try that again in English?
devs don't need microtransactions to offset costs, digital distribution and generally much lower physical manufacturing costs already do that.
Of the estimated 20 most-expensive games ever made, only three are recent, being MW2, GTA4 and GTA5. The rest are games from the 1990's and Pac-Man.
>>338907264
what was the last?
>>338906782
I admit to having poor wording but 1 I had a 2nd part of the argument no one commented on and 2 Im talking about the investment made as a whole the game has to stay profitable for the devs to make free content updates and typically game sales and not enough on there own to have a game be consistently making enough money to make the free updates
>>338907348
All the Starcraft 2 expansions
Diablo 3
Mists of Panderia, Warlords of Draenor
Overwatch
>>338907507
>considering success a failure
only on 4chins
>>338897370
Saw this, Got sad.
>>338907507
>Heroes of the Storm not on the list
>RTS on the list
>Diabluh 3 on the list
Confirmed for knowing nothing.
No seriously, you're retarded, Blizzard fans won't let their games die, D3 is still facing decent numbers and SC2 will ALWAYS face good numbers cause "There are no good RTS games, so play the one that has the most potential APM."
>>338901216
dude have you tried the Hard mode AI bots holy shit there like actualy players.
but yea the mechanics no one knows about yet.
reached level 20 last night, it is getting boring but competitive play we will see.
>>338907507
Shits, I forgot their biggest blunder, Heroes of the Storm
>>338907627
We are Blizzard fans because they make good games, no other reason. You make it seem like it's a bad thing and turn it into this bullshit meme. They make some of the best games out there, that's simply our opinions.
>>338907408
>the game has to stay profitable for the devs to make free content updates
My point is that they don't need to push these microtransactions to do that, development costs are not much higher than they were 20 years ago and are largely offset by the fact that manufacturing costs have gone down significantly. Publishers also don't need to blow tens of millions on marketing.
The game could have simply been a complete $60 game with no DLC/microtransactions and it would still be very profitable. Publishers are just trying to monetize everything they possibly can.
>>338881414
this
>>338907754
Yes, it is just opinion, but it's widely shared opinion, and thus, they won't let the games die.
There also aren't any good RTS, so you play SC2 cause it's the most popular and has the most potential for you to flex your e-peen.
>>338904709
Got a legendary Widowmaker skin out of my second box. Feelsgoodman
I'm already bored as fuck from playing Overwatch. When is it getting more content?
>>338902267
Ahh this is how I feel, sure overwatch is really great the first couple of days then gets uninteresting, but try going to other shooters after playing overwatch naaaaa.
I tried downloading TF2 After open beta last weeks ago, nearly impossible to play or have fun.
>>338907843
Why do good games need to die?
I know why, because you're edgy.
>>338907769
Profitable for a bit as I said the way to keep a game profitable contently is micro transactions
Sales numbers drop over time
>>338884621
it should be free to play with microtransactions
its the only way it will survive long enough
>>338907854
How many loot crates you've bought? It doesn't say in ToS that you're entitled to free content updates.
>>338880768
>doing quests cause tavern brawl is up on hearthstone
>6 friends playing overwatch
>usually just 2 friends in wow
>once I finally get money for the game I know they'll stop playing
>>338908061
I hope it's a paid game forever. When TF2 went free to play, the playerbase went to shit instantly.
>>338907681
For me in the 2nd closed beta once I got to a decent competitive rank I feel I found the game I expected with all the team work and co operation I wanted people knew what they where doing it was amazing and the best time I ever had in a multiplayer game now my ranks reset and the tards are even dumber then they where in the closed beta
Why the fuck is everyone arguing over microtransactions?
The fact still stands that this game is a shallow shooter lacking in features and gamemodes.
Apparently in the future competitive play is going to be added, but since at the moment it's completely missing from the game I can't imagine anyone playing it, much less talking about it in t-minus two weeks.
People are comparing OW to Splatoon, but even Splatoon rolled out a list it's post-launch updates and patches prior to the game's release, we don't know what the fuck is in store for OW's future.
Like I get it, everyone likes Blizzard games, but get over the hype train already; it had a huge marketing campaign that got everyone talking because Blizzard dumped piles of money into it, it was Snapchat for fuck's sake. It doesn't exactly need your rabid defense.
This is the same shit I saw with Evolve all over again, multiple betas and hype articles all flooding the internet until suddenly a month later it's like the game never existed.
>>338908203
Yes, that's absolutely correct. But there wasn't any game like TF2 at its inception so i'm naturally skeptical about Overwatch's community.
>Core gameplay is casual as all hell
>Most battles for a point are complete cluster fucks especially once people start popping alts
>Team comp meta is going to be favored soon so most teams that are competent will just the same shit.
It wouldn't be so bad if slower characters moved alittle faster. McCree/Tracer/Genji feel like they have real skill ceilings. The rest of the cast feels like they're just dependent on pure team comp and there is no individual skill and room to grow as a player past and point and its just team shit.
I'm sick of these trends of games that are designed to be mastered in 5 seconds from a core gameplay perspective i miss when mechanical skill was favored over just yelling locations to my teammates of the enemies.
Btw i give it a 4/10
>Blizzard game
>Dead in months
lmao
>Overwatch community insist of NEET's
>only way to enjoy it is with friends
>you'll get consently /a/nal ruptured if you're already bad at games
>>338908048
Because games ship with so little these days and people lose interest quickly. Sales didn't used to be so heavily concentrated in the launch window and then drop off entirely, this is a relatively new thing.
Almost as if its by design, pubs hype up their game, push preorders and DLC, then players drop the game in a month or two and prepare for the next $60 AAA game + season pass.
>>338908298
>Apparently in the future competitive play is going to be added
Dont know why it was removed it was in the 2nd beta
>>338907940
>I have no argument so I'll call him edgy
That has 0 connection to the conversation.
But if you must know, it's so that better games can be made. The problem is, it never happens, either a game lives for an exceptionally long time and turns to sour milk or it gets a shitty replacement and is immortalized as "better than the sequel."
The goal should be "better games," but since we live in a monetized society, we get "game that can make us more money for less" instead.And no, Communism is not the answer either, there is not proper answer, human being are greedy, awful creatures that will destroy themselves long before anything else does.
>>338881807
>>338904827
now post battleborn
>>338908595
>>338907318
http://www.dollartimes.com/inflation/inflation.php?amount=200&year=1990
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_expensive_video_games_to_develop
>>338908623
>Fingerless glove meter
I chuckled
>>338908436
Its sad how true this is. If this wasn't a Blizzard game it would be pretty much guaranteed to be flavor of the month tier and then forgotten. But because Blizzdrones will eat any grade of shit good or bad its life span is guaranteed to be awhile.
I've never seen a company where so many people will say their shit games are good. Its a shame too Blizzard has made good games before but you can't trust a single one of their fans because they will slurp up anything.
>>338908268
Oh thank god the game is getting stale right now, but now that my friends purchased the game it will last longer then a month.
I'm glad I know competitive mode will build a meta and more team work though thanks for the post kek.
>>338908623
Its funny because Overwatch also has a fucking disgusting HUD. Can you even turn off eliminations popping up on the middle top of your screen? I honestly feel like the kill part is good enough in the corner i don't need huge ass letters telling me i killed someone with some faggot point percentage. Its even worse then most shooters since its in all bold ass capital letters.
Overwathc is a total ripoff.
But man is it fun to play. I would talk so much shit about this game if I wasn't actually enjoying my time with it. Online only, no single player campaign, etc. the same shit I said about battlefront and the division and destiny. Just one or two modes and repetitive as fuck.
but the thing with overwatch is that even though it is very repetitive, it never really gets old. people play so differently from each other and you have enough characters to switch out to that it stays fresh.
If you ever had fun playing FPS games in the past (and you aren't burnt out on them) give it a try. you can still sell it back if you get it on console.
>>338908348
>Core gameplay is casual as all hell
Thats because everyone sucks at it as somone who was in the closed betas once people learn flank routs,synergy's and counters is where the depth will start to come in
>Most battles for a point are complete cluster fucks especially once people start popping alts
Once you get used the the audio ques and what not it becomes much less of a clusterfuck
>Team comp meta is going to be favored soon so most teams that are competent will just the same shit.
Teams have to change to fit the current situation
Like the objective is currently close to us so switch of Symmetra
Changing your team comp to counter their team comp
ect
