>is a god
>can be killed by a mortal
why is this allowed?
Because gods always have flaws, and mortals are quite good at exploiting flaws.
>>338780928
Power fantasy
>>338781603
>Gods
>Flaws
Demigods have flaws. Pure god have power beyond comprehension and can kill lesser entities with a look.
>>338781740
says who?
>>338781740
Gods are manifestations of humans will and are inherently flawed
>starts game
>intro screen has a nietzsche quote
>>338780928
>implying they're actually gods
They're probably just some abnormally strong arrogant beings that claim to be gods
>>338781740
>Pure god have power beyond comprehension and can kill lesser entities with a look.
If we're talking about any deity system other than monotheism, then that's not the case, considering the One True God is the only being with all the power.
Any polytheistic system is filled to the brim with gods who routinely get served by humans, because humans know that gods are mostly just pussies.
Because it happens all the time in mythology.
Historically, not all concepts of gods have them as invulnerable, omnipotent, and all knowing beings. Just super fucking powerful.
>>338780928
Why did Greeks or whoever always make their statues with creepy hollow pupils?
>>338780928
Because there's only one god and all the others are pretenders.
Mortals created gods. They can yet destroy them.
*tips*
>>338782014
>not liking Baldur's Gate
What are you, some kind of homo?
If it has stats, you can kill it.
>>338780928
>getting upset the japenese don't view god the same way the west does
Wew
Because gods are only almighty in monotheist religions.
>>338782148
They were painted
>implying the god didnt get his power drained first
Mortals buffed by Gods.
>>338782324
What was painted? There's just a hole there.
>>338782059
If God is all good then he can't be all powerful.
>>338782543
why not
>>338782543
That doesn't make sense.
>>338782528
The back of the hole was painted
It creates a layered look
>>338782587
I think the logic is if he is all powerful why isn't he stopping all the evil in the world if he's such a good guy
>>338782695
what is evil
is it good to infringe upon the rights humanity has to act without interference
>>338782695
Because the true god is the old testament one where he was basically a teenager playing Sims with humanity.
The new testament was just a PR campaign to get people to pay attention and show up.
>>338780928
Because the guy who killed him is stronger you retard.
I bet you're a fatass who can't lose weight and blames your genetics.
>>338780928
I personally like the idea of gods that are super fucking powerful, but to interact with the world directly they have to put themselves in a mortal shell which leaves them vulnerable to death despite their massive power. The hook is that they never actually permanently die, but losing a mortal shell cuts them off from the mortal realm for a time.
>God talks shit
>Gets hit
>Cries about it because "Wahhh fucking mortals."
That's right, faggot. Watch your tongue next time.
>>338780928
gods existence is far shorter than human's history though.
>>338780928
Because humanitiy collective ego is too big to not invent godlike beings, just to have them be beaten by a human?
>>338783132
*humanities"
>>338782543
Go back to your cell, faggot.
>meet god
>it's not a cute loli
>>338780928
>>338781740
So at its core, it's the argument as "It's not a dragon it's a wyvern!"
A dragon is whatever the writer says it is.
A god is whatever the writer says it is.
my dick is a god nigga
Reminder
God is Chinese
>>338780928
Because when modern people think of gods, they think of deities comparable to the monotheistic ones. When in a lot of other mythologies, gods are killed by all sorts of shit.
>>338780928
>you will never be Zeus, fucking mortal women left and right as animals to hide from your bitch ass wife
>>338782014
>Game's title is a Nieztsche book
>>338783325
>>338783338
God must be pretty small
>>338782830
Oh man, the fedora fags really think they're breaking new ground with this shit.
>its been 2,016 years
>still no God 2
reeee whats the hold up
>>338782379
Thas porn ain't it
>>338783871
The jews, they're keeping God 1 on life support.
>>338782695
Notion of YHWH being allmighty is nowhere to be find in any canonical books. It's all later fanfics by cabalists and Plato-inspired church fathers based on what is quite obviously few hyperboles in the scripture. God of old testament was clearly not omnipotent, just really powerfull.
>God
>implying they weren't ayy lmaos
Sure, 4,000 years ago someone walks up to you and shows you a gaming PC, no shit we're gonna start calling him God
>>338782695
>>338782543
le pascals wager
>>338784435
I'm gonna call him a fag. Rockstation 4 can play better looking games for cheaper.
>>338780928
Because they were really never gods
The japanese word for spirit and god are the same
>>338784443
That's the dilemma of evil, you fucking imbecile.
>>338784591
Japanese word for Biracial and Tranny are the same
>>338782543
It's the other way around Epicurus
>>338783871
>>338784063
>ignoring mormonism, scientology, and all the other crazy spinoffs
>>338784104
Jacob even explicitly overpowered him
Gods were like us in the old days because that made it understandable. We didn't have the "god works in mysterious ways" bullshit, if Zeus fucked shit up, we knew he was just pissed.
>>338781740
you need to read up on some classics m8
>>338781603
that said, the greek definition of 'god' was basically 'immortal'. human beings were specifically singled out from gods because they were not immortal. however you can take away the physical form of a god without killing them
>>338784682
So is english's
We just call em degenerates
>>338785070
>that said, the greek definition of 'god' was basically 'immortal'.
Not entirely. Hercules was immortal, but he wasn't considered a god, just a demigod.
>muh Judeochristian god!
>>338785257
as if any other god matters? lol?
>>338785179
At the end of his life, he was accepted into Mount Olympus as a true god. But before then, he was just a Demigod. A super strong human with mortality.
>>338781740
Gods are fucking retarded. read some books idiot.
>>338783323
no, the bible very clearly stated what is and isn't a god, and that's canon
>>338785391
>with mortality.
No he was outright unkillable in some versions, it's specifically why Hera never just killed him.
It's why the hydra venom tunic was such agony, because the pain was infinite and he couldn't just die instantly like a mortal could. But yes, Zeus makes him a full god in the end to save his son from the suffering.
>>338785573
She never tried to kill him outright because he was still her son, even if it was from another mother. That's why she does the two snakes thing as a baby and the mentality mad shit when he gets a family. Because she couldn't touch him. But fucking with his life outside of actually touching him? Yeah, fair game.
>>338786238
No, she actually couldn't. On the night Heracles was born, Zeus took the baby and had him nurse on Hera's tits while she was sleeping. Her breast milk made him immortal.
She didn't realize he was immortal until after the snake thing.
>>338786385
Damn Zeus was a goddamn asshole
There's nothing wrong with that
>>338781740
How do you kill a vampire?
>>338786838
With a fruit knife?
>>338786510
Zeus did 90% of what he did because he knew no one could stop him.
>>338786510
90% of Greek mythology begins with Zeus being an asshole to either humans or other Gods.
>>338787020
In theory Athena is stronger. The oracle said that the child her mother would give birth to would be more powerful that its father.
You do realize that games that have you kill Gods generally use different Gods than Abrahamic ones, right?
In western games, gods you kill are generally built around polytheistic gods like pagan gods and such, who tend to represent a specific element or phenomenon. There's multiple gods of lightning throughout European religions, and they're always flawless because they're just that; Gods of lightning. There's gods of seas and so on too. They're not not all-powerful like Abrahamic gods.
JRPG gods tend to be based around Japanese gods in the sense that their mystical and powerful but they're not all-powerful, all-knowing or omnipresent, and tend to just be focused aroudn a specific gimmick. There's a ton of these "gods" in Japanese mythology that are just based on ridiculous or stupid things.
>>338787740
they're always flawed* not flawless.
>>338787740
>JRPG gods tend to be based around Japanese gods in the sense that their mystical and powerful but they're not all-powerful, all-knowing or omnipresent, and tend to just be focused aroudn a specific gimmick. There's a ton of these "gods" in Japanese mythology that are just based on ridiculous or stupid things.
That's not that different from Catholicism having dead saints relegated to things.
>>338782695
Choice requires freedom.
Choice also requires consequences.
No being will just "believe" you if they are determined to do something. Thus, they must be allowed to scientifically test it once without interference.
When the test is concluded, all will be revealed.
>>338787740
SMT always uses the Abrahamic God as the top guy
He's not all powerful however
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YL4cFzbrb9M
>>338787712
But Athena doesn't has a mother. She came to life from Zeus head.
>>338780928
because japanese gods are mostly strong and skilled mortals or elements of nature, if you compared them with the idea of christian god (omnipresent, omnipotent and omniscient) they are a joke
>>338788337
Nowhere in the jewish texts does it say god is all-powerful, that's later shit. He's just considered top dog of the gods in the area.
>>338788452
>She came to life from Zeus head.
That's because Zeus ate her mother to try and avoid the prophecy.
>>338788165
if he's all powerful, he doesn't need to perform any experiments because he can conjure a 100% accurate answer from thin air
>>338788538
This.
Unless it's SMT. Even then it's normally Demons/Angels that can kill Him.
>>338787740
this
the idea of gods being literally perfect and uncomprehendably powerful in every way spread from the middle east
before middle-eastern religions spread, ancient religions just used various gods as a means to explain things
pre-middle eastern religions
>one god controls this thing
>another god controls this thing
>another god controls this thing
>another god controls this thing
keep in mind that the stories of a lot of these gods, especially in europe portrayed them as emotional beings who sometimes failed at various things
middle-eastern religions
>one god controls every single thing
>that one god is also all knowing and perfect in every single imaginable way
>>338788568
Read my post again. The experiment isn't for us, it's for convincing the beings he's created.
It's perfectly fair, he tries to not get you to do things but if you keep pushing it he allows it.
>>338788737
Ugh, the experiment isn't for him.**
Why is God such a bitch ass nigga?
>>338788680
Greeks had the GOAT religion.
>>338788568
>>338782695
God don't want anything.
You can only desire if you miss something but God is perfection. Therefore God have no desire to end evil because he's incapable of wanting so.
We project ourselves in the idea of God, but really, if such a thing would ever exist, it would be nothing like we imagine. Perfection is beyond our grasp.
>>338789221
>Therefore God have no desire
Says a mortal projecting himself in the idea of god.
>>338785179
Hercules was not immortal until he was lifted back up to heaven.
>>338789417
That's not what projection means.
But tell me, how can something desire one thing, if he's perfect?
If God is all powerful can he create a rock that he can't lift?
What now fags?
>>338782695
you cant put inherent earthy things on something with such power. if god say something is good its not good because the actions of it make something for us positive, they are good because the power of creation say thats how it is. you dont think the nature favors a species over other because its an asshole, its because that how it works and help in the balance of everything.
>>338785432
The word "god" existed in english language before the bible was translated into english. Instead of using the exact word that God Himself used to refer to Himself when talking directly to Moses, they took an English word that SORT OF meant the same thing English bible is literally "rubbadubdub thanks for the grub" fansub tier.
>>338784443
Pascal's wager goes like this:
If you do the things that will get you into heaven your potential gain of an eternity of bliss outweighs any temporal boredom or financial hardship.
Of course it ignores all the other religions who also have things that you're supposed to do as you're assuming from the start that your thing has to be the right thing. Also it ignores that JHVH-1 appeared to J. R. "Bob" Dobbs and told him that all those of Yeti descent would reveal themselves to him by sending him $30 to receive Eternal Salvation and a ticket onto the spacecraft of the Sex Goddesses. If that's the reward surely the one time expenditure of $30 is worth it especially given the Triple Your Money Back Guarantee.
>>338780928
Elder Gods > everyone else
>>338789735
Only if he skips leg day.
Gods you slay in vidya are based on European and Japanese gods, who aren't perfect like Middle-Eastern gods.
It's never stated that a god can't be killed. Just because we cannot comprehend a gods power compared to ours, doesn't mean that a god can't die.
>>338790152
>Middle-Eastern gods
You mean Allah? Because he's the same god they worship in Europe by a different fan nickname.
>>338790252
So what happens when god dies? Does he go to god heaven to hang out with his own god? And what if god's god dies? How deep does this rabbit hole go?
>>338782114
This, I'm not very versed in a whole hell of a lot of mythology, but all that I'm aware of have gods that die.
>>338789857
English is kind of weird in that the word for god does not derive from the name of a specific deity as in most languages related to Greek or Latin the generic term for a god is directly related to the chief god of their pantheon. In Hebrew for instance 'El' started out as the proper name for the king and father of the gods of whom Yahweh was one before the monotheistic revisions that made him the only allowed god.
>>338790436
Just look at Norse Mythology
Its all about Gods being killed
ITT: people who have dont no enlightenment work yet talk about things like 'God'
>>338790407
When Jesus gets whacked, he goes to Hell and then returns to earth when he feels like it.
>>338790371
He means gods that originated in the middle east. That includes the Christian god. Even Jesus himself was middle eastern.
>>338790407
I'd assume that passage into heaven would cease to exist just like the dead god, trapping all those who are already in heaven created by the now dead god.
>>338790578
Jesus was Nordic, idiot.
>>338790015
Honestly the Old Ones actually being aliens that scared the shit out of Lovecraft and gave him nightmares, THINKING they were evil old gods, makes sense really.
If it greek myth gods they get rekt.
Humans are nothing but dust, God could easily wipe all of us out, right now. But keep being egotistical its pathetic desu. If you can take on an army by yourself then get back to me.
>>338790734
>he can't take on a whole army by himself
get a load of this pleb
>>338790552
Well technically the 3 days to resurrect thing came out of the chaos kampf myth where Marduk/Hadad/Yahweh the son of the high god fought the salt water chaos dragon ending in them both dying. But then the were resurrected on the third day through the intervention of their consort.
The Jesus myth draws heavily on that story but minimizes the role of the female part by having him already resurrected when she arrives at least in the versions of the story that we have.
Jesus is just Zoroastr 2.0 really. They talked about all the same stuff, both were crucified, both rose from the dead 3 days later.
And Zoroastrianism lasted a long time. Aren't many adherents of it these days.
>>338790734
well greek gods rekt somebody stronger than them and the titans did the same
>>338789221
Then God is not all good.
>>338790371
christian, jewish, and muslim god are generally perfect and flawless.
european pantheons just include very powerful deities who reign over specific things, quarrel with eachother and just make the world work together.
japanese gods just tend to be very powerful/strong mortals, spirits or elements of nature.
>>338790919
>>338790932
>unironically watching Zeitgeist
>>338790371
>You mean Allah? Because he's the same god they worship in Europe by a different fan nickname.
This isn't /int/, burger.
>>338791104
I have no idea what that is. I just like studying old religions.
>>338780928
>God could easily wipe all of us out, right now.
Yeah same could be set about an astroid heading towards our way or some planet sized thing that just eats you and floats away like you were not even there. God is fine but its the bigger things that you should be more concerned about desu. The phrase "there is always a bigger fish" can be applied here.
>It's a nitpicking thread
>>338790691
But that's exactly what the Old Ones are, it's completely explicit in Lovecraft's stories. Cthulhu is straight up portrayed as an alien.
>>338791235
I meant more like ayy lmao aliens
>>338791078
The monotheistic concept of god as a logical philosophical enterprise really was born out of stoic philosophy in the classical period. Before that point middle eastern religion was the same sort of chaotic mish mash of imperfect beings even in the religions that had become more monotheistic you have whole armies of minor deities fighting wars and meddling in human affairs.
>>338790831
Pics or it didnt happen faggot
Everyone knows its patrician tier to have God buff your power level with the help of angelic allies. Or take the dark route and team up with demons if youre an edgemaster.
neturalfags get btfo in Armageddon with their flawed human wepons.
>>338790691
To be honest though it wouldn't be all that hard to give Lovecraft nightmares anyway I mean the guy was a virgin till his late 20s, was scared of deep water fish, didn't leave his house during the day and used to regularly post letters at the speed of a modern day shitposter. The guy was a wreck but at least he had a cool cat named Niggeman
>>338780928
True. Gods are extremely superior to man due to their connection to the cosmos itself.
Humans are nowhere near that level. But of course, the Japanese have extremely retarded ideas about what a god is.
>>338791104
Never seen it, probably wouldn't get much out of it and I've heard there's a lot of bad information in it. You can find lots of good information about pre-monotheistic Judaism though if you read up about it.
>>338791504
Hell, back in some societies (the Assyrians for one) they believed that stealing a statue of a god means you'd be stealing the god itself.
>>338791519
>he needs crutches in the form of buffs and allies to defeat his enemies
Solo that shit or go home faglord
>>338790691
The Old Ones were actually just seafood, which Lovecraft thought was disgusting by itself and gave him nightmares whenever he had to eat it.
So yeah, I guess they were really aliens who scared the shit out of him.
>>338790951
God would be beyond the idea of good and evil.
>>338791519
Not true, I remember a documentary series that demonstrated quite effectively that nuclear weapons, beams of charged particles, and sharp objects or bladed weapons with specific designs could be highly effective.
I mean after all the bible states at one point that Yahweh couldn't defeat an army that had chariots made of iron. We've gotten quite a bit more advanced than that.
As long as it's not THE God, it's fine
>>338791631
He did lose his virginity and visited some of his friends later in his life, he wasn't as much of a shut in but not a normalfag either
>>338791903
>which Lovecraft thought was disgusting by itself and gave him nightmares whenever he had to eat it.
Holy shit. That guy was a pussy.
>>338791932
>God is 2deep4u
sounds pretty gay desu
Nice video game thread, guys.
>>338791861
>Implying I cant solo
Meet me in Antarctica at 23:00 and we'll get it on fag, bring your weapons of choice
>>338792028
He had allergies to it, and to his credit, seafood looks fucking weird as shit.
Kind of an issue to be allergic to fish in New England.
>>338791491
that guy's about to get smited
>>338783535
Not that guy, but he might be onto something. Old testament had some pretty messed up passages.
>>338791842
That was pretty common, and the hypothesis that the rejection of idols in various cultures may have started with those types of thefts.
There's also a weird little story preserved in the bible that implies that Yahweh was believed to only be god over a particular small region and that in order to worship him in another land would require taking a cart load of dirt there to create a patch of Yahweh's land.
I'm god, ask me anything.
>>338792216
>smited
smitten
>>338792293
Well could you honestly say that you wouldn't do what he did though? I mean if you have played Sims long enough you will realize just how boring SoL is so you would want to spice things up a bit with some chaos and suffering. Nobody ever had true fun during peace time.
>>338786510
If you were a god so powerful that you only answered to the weavers of the threads of life would you NOT be an asshole?
Not even gaia was above zeus m8
>>338792454
Are faggots allowed in heaven? I ask for OP's sake
>>338791997
Which verse?
Humanity would destroy itself in the process due to all the radiation by launching alot of nukes though desu.
>>338780928
>is a god
>can be killed by a Homs
fixed
>>338792571
Faggots, no.
Gays, yea.
>>338792545
To be fair mother earth was just that, a mother. She had to get more powerful gods to exact her vengeance.
>>338792581
>Humanity would destroy itself in the process due to all the radiation by launching alot of nukes though desu.
>in an alternate reality this has already happened
Yet in this reality we are fighting to prove the existence of god like entities on a Cambodian pictograph discussing imageboard.
>>338792581
Judges 1:19
And the LORD was with Judah; and he drave out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron.
>>338792041
Blame our shitty brains. We can't even comprehend time and get sick because of VR. I'd say the idea of God is a little more complex.
>>338792545
Well I mean he was in the sky and she was the earth.
Demeter managed to get Zeus to toe the line after Persephone was kidnapped, though.
The real reason no one tangles with Zeus, is that Zeus beat Typhon, which is canonically the scariest thing in existence.
Who'd win in a fight?
Ra or Zeus?
>>338792765
Pretty sure Judah is a tribe of Israel and that verse was depicting them fighting and God himself desu.
All it said was something akin to... God was in favor of Judah, not actually fighting along side them.
Speaking of old testament-era stuff.
The hilarious part is the fact that they're jews aside, the Maccabees were basically real-life /pol/. They saw the Seleucids as degenerates who practiced multiculturalism (which ignores the fact that the culture the Seleucids were emulating was Hellenistic period Greece, aka the height of human culture at the time), so they slaughtered them for it. Hanukkah was basically "Make Judea Great Again: The War".
>>338792928
Is it sunny or raining? This is important.
>>338792928
Thor
>>338792928
Zeus is a crafty motherfucker, Ra would probably try to fight at least somewhat honorably. Then Zeus would probably turn into a crocodile and fuck Ra's mother.
>>338792545
>gaia
Tyranical Bitch. I wish there was a game where Mother Nature is the main villain trying to kill off humans due some retarded reason like: "They already finished they cycle. Let new life flow" or "they are killing the planet".
And you end up defying her because you want to go explore space and fuck hot alien chicks. So in the end you become the god civilization and culture.
Shit, you know what? I'm gonna write this shit.
>>338792854
Yep pretty much all the cultures of that region have stories of dynastic succession of the gods in which the new chief god was a younger son of the previous king of the gods who proves himself in combat vs some kind of monster representing chaos and then becomes the new king of the gods. Its not really clear what direction the flow was in because those cultures were in constant contact for thousands of years.
>>338792928
Huitzilopochtli.
May be a shitskin god. But that bastard was hardcore.
>>338793118
The fuck was with Zeus and turning into random animals to have sex with women? Was he bored of using a regular human dick to fuck things?
>>338793135
>Tyranical Bitch
How so? If it wasn't for her spawning herself from Chaos there would be no existence
>>338793248
Everyone knew what Zeus looked like, the animal thing was to sneak past daughters' dads.
>>338791208
I know that >she
>>338780928
Because gods are fictional and have no observable laws involving reality governing them so they can be killed however the fuck a writer wants.
>>338793143
I mean the oldest we have is the Sumerians, with Marduk slaying Tiamat. Makes you wonder if there was some underlying event that imprinted on everyone, like the flooding of the Black Sea, or was just a frequent but uncommon enough occurrence to happen in every civilization.
Would be neat if archeologists found a thousands year old fossil of a huge dude and a gigantic reptile skeleton.
>>338793065
Fair point, and the whole story is clearly fictional but this occurs within the same narrative that has Joshua who is arguably originally meant to be Yahweh in the flesh running around smashing everything in his path.
>>338793248
If you've been a deity for thousands and thousands of years, and have the ability to polymorph, you tend to try some weird shit.
Hell, I'd hate to see what kind of fetishes a man could develop over a sexual lifetime of a millennium.
In a different thread a while back, I recall that many people were essentially saying Buddha was leagues above any other god and the strongest 'God' figure.
What makes Buddha so powerful?
>>338793198
>posts irrelevant beaner god
>inb4 superior Macuahuitl cuts through spanish horsehead like maize tortilla
>>338793248
He was the first furry.
>>338793416
Because he stopped giving a fuck and attained true Alpha status
>>338793248
I recommend reading The Marriage of Cadmus and Harmony by Roberto Calasso; it includes excellent explanations of an awful lot of Greek mythology but spends a good long time on your question of why gods transforming into shit was such a recurrent motif and why it was so associated with divine rape of mortals.
>>338792459
Smitten means to be in love with
>>338793416
Something about that Sun Wukong story of him going to the end of the universe to prove that he's stronger than Buddha, only to realize that he didn't even leave his hand
Just because something is a god does not mean it can't be killed
>>338792928
Zeus was strong enough to beat Typhon by himself, while Ra requires Set to help him defeat Apep (arguably Typhon's equivalent), and that's never permanent.
>>338793198
Tlaloc was more hardcore, burned kids alive just for rain.
>>338793416
buddha was just some dude.
Who is the canon strongest entitie/s in
>Greek mythology
>Egyptian mythology
>Norse mythology
>Aztec mythology
>Hindu mythology
>Overall
pls respond
>>338793657
yeah and so was jesus
>>338793248
Lots of early local cults depicted their gods as animals and had their local royal house descended from the god. For instance Yahweh was generally depicted as a bull or a calf. Having Zeus turn into the animal was a way to incorporate those myths into a more modern mythic structure linking the local guys to the broader faith while also not damaging the divine ancestry of the local rulers.
>>338793416
Because even gods are limited by the boundaries of realities
Buddha said 'fuck that barrier' and he don't give a shit anymore
>>338793557
I remember Sun Wukong being overpowered as well but wouldn't most any God be everything, essentially?
>>338793710
Lovecraft
>>338793657
You'd be amazed when man is capable of when they reach enlightenment. The rules of the universe stop applying to you.
>Final Boss is god.
>Level: 60
>>338793416
I think that only works for the variants of Buddhism that were essentially just animistic pagans who adopted Buddhist philosophy and identified him as their central, universal deity.
The ultimate god is Brahma, for all that is, was, ever will be, and ever could be, is part of the 400 billion year dream he's having.
>>338793710
Do not fuck with Hindu mythology
Their heroes/gods are broken as fuck
>>338793416
Someone post that WebM you all know the one. Where everything is returned to dust and nothing is permanent.
>>338793248
Depends on the story. Normally he does for tactical espionage action reasons though. If he fucked women in Zeus form it would be more likely that Hera would find out. And transforming into golden mists and whatnot allow him to squeeze into places fleshy bodies can't get into.
>>338793135The nasuverse got you covered m8
>>338793539
Look in a dictionary. It's got a dual meaning.
>>338793657
Who achieved CHIM.
>>338793398
I think its more likely to be astro-theology related to the precession. Like the bull slaying in the Mithras cult.
>>338793710
The moirai are probably the strongest thing in greek mythology. I'd say chaos but it isn't even a 'thing'
>>338793318
Because she dictates how we are, who we should be and when we should die.
I say to that. Fuck no.
Humanity needs to be free from the slavery that has been placed in our genes and in our biology by that bitch that seems hell bent on continuing a cycle of extinction over any species that could possibly have a chance of becoming something more than a bunch of animals.
We most chose our own path. To get to the stars. To go further than the basic needs of our species. We need to transcend her. We need to evolve not by her, but by our hand. Culture, religion and myths, the cognitive revolution, the industrial revolution and the creation of an ideal world where stuff such as rights has paved the way to that unique moment.
And she will not go down without a fight.
>>338793710
>>Greek mythology
Zeus, Typhoon
>>Egyptian mythology
Don't know, probably Horus/Ra/Set, Apep
>>Norse mythology
Surtr, Odin, Tyr, Thor, Jormungandr, Fenrir
>>Aztec mythology
Don't know, probably some of those hardcore war gods or Quetzalcoatl
>>Hindu mythology
Don't know. Shiva?
>>Overall
Abrahamic God
>>338793710
Hindu mythology has the most metaphysically powerful deities due to them representing concepts like "existence" and "cessation of existence".
At the end of Kali Yuga, Shiva is so powerful that he literally dances the universe to destruction. This is after his wife Kali has eaten every living thing, which is after the final Avatar of Vishnu, Kalki, has destroyed all evil with a flaming sword.
>>338793879
I'd like to learn more about Brahma. Could you post a few sentences or a paragraph or three about the godhead?
>>338793916
Both him and Cu Chulainn sounds like they weren't written in old times when you read them. They sound like they were written around 10 years back on livejournal by someone who watches too much shonen.
>>338792835
>blame your shitty brains
I think you mean blame your shitty god that created us so horrendously and then punished us for having flaws that he gave us.
Now for the real question:
Who'd win in a fight? Thor, or Jesus?
>>338793796
>but wouldn't most any God be everything, essentially?
No, take a look at Zeus for example.
>>338793994
>Kill the goddess of all life
>suddenly no more life
good jeb m8I do like that alternative approach on gaia tho
>>338794138
Loki
WHO /EVERWORLD/ HERE
IF YOU DON'T THINK THAT WAS SOME TIGHT SHIT, YOUR OPINION IS WRONG
>>338794004
Pretty sure Urd, Skuld and Belldandy are the most powerful.
>>338794108
Exactly
Karna and the rest of the Hindu mythology are written fucking insane.
>>338793710
>Greek
Zeus or Athena.
>Egyptian
Ra?
>Norse
Thor or Odin.
>Aztec
No idea.
>Hindu.
Well, there is this faggot who is asleep and if he wakes up the whole universe gets destroyed. Don't remember the name though.
>Overall
Mary Sue, aka. God/Allah/Yahweh
>>338794070
>At the end of Kali Yuga
Also, rockin' tits.
>>338794138
Trick question
Jesus would actually be Loki disguised as Jesus, who would entrap Thor, who would then later be saved by Jesus using his magically power of FUCK YOU CEASE EXISTING that appeared in that one episode of the Bible but was never mentioned again.
>>338781740
There are no rules for this. The Christian god has different rules from the Greek gods. There are different kinds and you don't make the rules.
>>338794174
I think killing the goddess of life stops the creation of new life, not ends what's already living.
>>338793606
>Tlaloc was more hardcore, burned kids alive just for rain.
The God of War killed 300 Suns and a shitload of Gods. Decapitated half of them and bathed in their blood. Asshole was the Crossed version of the Gods.
I can honestly see all those pussies of the Nordics and the Greeks pissing themselves looking at those crazy mother fuckers.
Hell, one of them supposedly threatened to eat the entire Milky Way. All the stars, all the people and all the fire that existed.
Wouldn't any 'time god' be the most powerful of his own religion? Nigga can just go back in time and prevent any other god from existing on the first place
>>338793710
>Overall
I would go with the comic books here. Marvel and DC's portrayal of TOA and The Presence (essentially beefed up Abrahamic god) depict omnipotent beings through and through. There are no "oops I lost a bet to the devil" or "oops my powers stop working against iron chariots" kind of bullshit.
>>338794138
Well going beyond the fact that Thor is real and Jesus is just a myth Thor has Mjolnir, and power over electricity Jesus has the ability to become incorporeal temporarily (though he never uses it in combat canonically) and the ability to multiply food.
>>338793710
Aztec and Hindu gods are "That Kid" levels of power. Only Jesus and Odin were properly balanced.
>>338794106
The worship of Brahma is the smallest of the four main branches of Hinduism; its a lot easier to sympathize with the Preserver of reality, the Transformer of reality, or the feminine personification of power.
Brahma possesses four heads which look in the four cardinal directions. He is identified with Brahman, which is the ultimate cosmic reality of existence.
>>338794232
>Thor or Odin.
Thor dies to Jorgumgandr and Odin dies to Fenrir though.
>>338793710
>Greek mythology
Prometheus
>Egyptian mythology
Ra
>Norse mythology
Odin
>Aztec mythology
some corn munching fuck
>Hindu mythology
Shiva or some other poo in loo god
>Overall
Any half assed bullshit that Marvel/DC tries to pull with their gods seriously its some silly shit.
>>338794573
what animoe is this
>>338794474
Chronos wasn't all-powerful, so no.
Generally time gods don't control time, they are the stewards of it. Most religions that believe in time gods also believe that fate is immutable.
>>338793710
Chaos, The Ogdoad, Thor (physically speaking), Huitzilopochtli, Brahman, either Gnostic God (all these fucking demiurges itt) or Brahman.
Eastern mythologies generally have no sense of scale (or perhaps better, religious cosmology is a spooky place) and thus end up with more powerful deities.
I wanna take this opportunity to mention Gods of Pegana, which is a criminally underrated Lord Dunsany work that's in the public domain.
My nigga MANA-YOOD-SUSHAI needs more respect.
>>338786838
with hamon
>>338794004
>Jormungandr
I want a video game that depicts Ragnarök.
>>338794115
Our flaws are part of who we are and sometimes you need to punish to educate.
>>338794474
There are Hindu gods that represent the concept of existence. Time manipulation means nothing if you are dealing with the concept of everything/anything.
>>338794474
Some times gods of 'time' are presented as powerless to change fate, and only watch as history unfolds.
>mfw people claim the Abrahamic God as the strongest overall
>>338794174
>goddess of all life
You do not need to kill the goddess. You just need to survive her to the point where she has no hold on you. You need to become a God or a Goddess of Civilization and Culture to held her off for a while, at least until life can can become independent of her. Then they fly away from her. And you, as the Lord/Lady of Progress, will have to fight for the survival of other species so they may one day escape her claws.
Why? Because Gaia is Nature and Entropy is Nature's Final solution. You need to force her to find a new one.
>>338794683
Brahman got his shit pushed in by Shiva when he got all uppity about being the strongest and the best out of the big 3.
>>338794734
>sometimes you need to punish to educate
Preach it, brother.
>>338785432
>Because everybody uniformly believes in the words of the bible
You can't possibly be this stupid and single minded...
>>338794810
>mfw people claim any god as the strongest overall
Its like watching one of those autistic powerlevel threads unfold. There is enough concentrated autism to power the entire planet several times over.
>>338794683
>Gnostic God
The Archons are not gods. They are demons or cosmic abominations that feed of suffering and pain.
But Gnosticism is a fanfic cult. So whatever.
>>338794674
Hiatus x Hiatus
>>338794995
all cults are fanfic m8
>>338794627
Am I bovvered though?
The final goal of god's creation is to kill god and usurp its throne. This is the true path. Reach heaven through violence.
>>338795058
Indeed.
>>338794991
>Tenji was such a beta male he didnt dick all the girls that wanted his dick
Fuck me Im mad as hell.
>>338794991
>missing the joke
>misusing autism intentionally
What a surprise.
>>338794683
Eastern gods are pretty low tier outside of the Vedic ones.
>>338795058
Do we even have cults these days?
And I don't mean "this sect that have an out-there view of their religion". I mean full-on, chaos legion level cults.
>>338794995
I presume the gnostic god would be Sophia, not Yaldaboath.
>Gods created humans just to be their successors when their time comes to leave this world
>>338794995
>cosmic abominations
Elaborate. I like this.
>>338795160
He dicked literally all of them.
Ryoko was still best girl though.
>>338794637
>Prometheus
Is that why Zeus fucked him up?
>>338793248
Get their guard down, then go in for the kill
>>338794995
Actually its entirely possible that gnostic judaism predates Christianity which would make modern mainstream Christianity one of those fanfics that takes a ridiculously over the top series with tons of goofy philosophical stuff and then tries to make it into something more realistic and serious.
>Gods are jealous of mortals because of their mortality
>>338795202
Heaven's Gate was '97.
Apparently some of them stayed alive to run the website.
>>338795202
Aum Shinrikyo, aka the group that released the sarin gas in the Tokyo subway. A literal doomsday cult.
>>338794675
Cronus is not a god of time travel. He is the god of Entropy. He's the god of all things going to dust.
When he comes into play that's why the world's quality starts tarnishing and going to shit.
Because what's a god to a Nonbeliever :v)
>>338795160
Welcome to every goddamn anime ever. Only Japan could be such a nation of cuckolds that they'd pay women to sit next to them and do nothing.
>>338795202
None that have made the news lately. Mostly it's just occasional flareups of christian offshoots who proclaim to be the true nature of the religion and that fucking children/smoking crack is the way of the lord. Besides, once a cult reaches chaos legion level it just becomes a religion, since every religion is just a cult with a large enough membership.
>>338795214
Sophia is just a spawn of God (a very incompetent one).
Yaldaboath is just a spawn of Sophia that became jealous of God and became a manchildren faggot.
The Archons are spawns of Yaldaboath.
Humans are a spawn of God. But Yaldaboath wants to corrupt them and make them a bunch of Sadistic Degenerate fucks.
It's so fucking stupid.
>>338794108
In a lot of Hindu paintings enlightened and gods are shown with halos of flames. It's basically just DBZ.
>>338795382
Chronos, not Cronus. Cronus is a titan, Chronos is the greek personification of time.
>>338794890
Depends on the school, either Shiva's gonna Shiva or he's gonna get together with Vishnu and Harihara all over the place.
>>338794995
I thought I was being fairly blatant about how I wasn't referring to the Demiurge but I guess not.
>>338795178
Most non-Abrahamic religions have a shitton of very specialised gods. I suppose it's a conflict in philosophies if you have a load of superpowerful Chinese gods, though, true.
>>338795259
Go read up on Archons.
Then put that down and go look at Enochians.
>>338795202
I'm assuming he's using the word 'cult' in the classic sense to just refer to any group practicing some form of religious worship.
>>338789794
Faggot
>>338795391
A bolt of lightning.
>>338795259
>Existence is created
>Demiurge is created to craft laws and physics
>Deludes himself into thinking he is the creator
>Fashions archons or 'angels' to enforce these rules
>Because life is pain, it is going according to plan, and thus pleases the demiurge
>True knowledge of existence is Sophia
>Sophia holds that eventually, everyone will be redeemed and see the light
>Even the demiurge
>>338795202
When Ron was still alive anyway, Scientology was pretty close to a cult. A cult of personality at the very least.
>>338781850
the bible
>>338794674
Meme X Meme
>>338795442
I like it because it tries really hard to be incomprehensible.
>>338795619
L.Ron*
>>338795463
Abrahamic religions have those gods too, but they've been demoted to angels / demons / saints etc. Basically they only got out of the polytheism category because of special pleading.
>>338794674
Hunter X Hunter
Be sure to post your reaction in /a/ when the bee girl gets it.
>>338795619
>was
It is now. Watch Going Clear a documentary about trying to escape from Scientology.
What if we're all immortal Gods and we just don't know yet because we haven't died before?
I like this thread.
>>338795702
>Basically they only got out of the polytheism category because of special pleading.
That and it's easier to canonise saints these days.
I bet little gods like Ebisu would kick most angel's asses, though.
>>338795797
What if only you're immortal, but you'll never know if you really are because you can't tell that you're dead?
>>338795797
Are you prepared to test your theory?
>>338795848
>I bet little gods like Ebisu would kick most angel's asses, though.
Definitely not Seraphim or Cherubim
They burn holes in reality.
>>338782059
>Any polytheistic system is filled to the brim with gods who routinely get served by humans,
At best gods are outwitted by humans though. It's very rare for polytheistic systems to involve gods dying, even by the hands of other gods.
>>338783323
>"It's not a dragon it's a wyvern!"
This makes me so mad everytime
>>338795931
Once you're past their AT field they'll go down like any of the other lower ranked ones.
>>338794138
Thor. Jesus wouldn't fight and would die and his followers would say some shit like "He died on purpose for us".
>God is really insecure and created humanity because he was alone and just wanted friends.
>>338796074
>Implying we have any evangelions
Still waiting for second impact
>>338796060
There's a difference though. Dragons have 4 legs. Wyverns have their forearms built into their wings like a bat.
>>338795359
>All me :^): the story
I like this metaphysical shitposting
>>338794198
What is Everworld
>>338781929
So is gravity, but it exists, dumbass.
>>338796132
Then why doesn't he talk to us anymore? He must be so lonely.
>>338794138
Depends.
Regular Jesus is a fucking pushover.
But Revelations Jesus is a completely snow white force of destruction with eyes of fire and a sword erupting from his mouth.
>>338796192
What
>>338795202
"Cult" is literally just how the mainstream marginalizes NRMs, unless you want to start using more subjective, deliberately formulated and applied academic definitions.
>>338796146
Oh boy here we go.You're right
>>338795931
Well yeah, but generally speaking nobody in their right mind fucks with God's throne posse.
Especially by Revelations, that book is fucking intense. It's like the entire universe was written by the original heavy metal band.
>>338796237
This guy gets it.
>>338795458
Ah oops. Greek/Roman religions are such clusterfucks. Syncretic bastards. The more in detail you go the more confusing it gets. Every little island had their own OC donutsteel version of each god so you have a gorrilion origin stories for every god and a gorrilion conflicting family trees. One of the 7 wonders of the world was a temple which had a statue of Artemis as a fertility goddess with hundreds boobs. Then you have this primordial god vs olympian vs titan business. The primordial god bit is particularly obnoxious because there are no two identical catalogs of them.
>>338796052
> It's very rare for polytheistic systems to involve gods dying, even by the hands of other gods.
Actually mythic cycles that involve death and resurrection of a god tended to be at the core of most polytheistic religions. One of the oldest myths we know of involves the death and resurrection of Ishtar's boyfriend Tamuz.
>>338796146
Wyverns are classified as dragons in p. 20 of Dragonology, first edition.
This is the arbitrator of all draconic concerns, and argument for the veracity of any other account is impossible.
>>338792293
>Old testament had some pretty messed up passages
elaborate
>>338796146
Wyverns are literally just a heraldic type of dragon, the term "dragon" can refer to any mythological or heraldic serpent
You can for example simply add wings to a snake and call it a dragon
>>338796179
A 12-book (very short individually) series by the author of Animorphs about a small group of college-aged kids who go to Everworld, another world created by the Gods of all the Pantheons to escape from the God-eating bug God, Ka Anor.
It is really fucking good.
>>338796145
You don't need an Evangelion if you have a powerful enough particle canon.
Plus have you been living in a cave? Second impact was years ago.
>>338796230
We invited him to a few parties but he mostly just stood in the corner drinking so eventually we stopped asking him to come over.
>>338796390
>>338796457
Yeah, they WOULD say that. Filthy wyverns taking the jobs from dragons.
Based off of Hesiod's Theogany, Chaos is the most powerful entity in all of Greek mythology
Hinduism still wins because of the fact that their gods deal with existence itself
>>338796549
Literally all literature concerning dragons is fan fiction.
Dragons don't even need wings to be dragons you mong.
>>338796452
Here's a rundown:
>kill your first born son because I said so, or you'll burn in hell, wait don't just a prank bro
>kill your brother
>this city displeases me, fuck them with plagues, fire and brimstone
>some shit about getting fucked by donkeys
>motherfuckers getting stoned because of some dumb shit but it pleases the lord
just google old testament passages if you want actual quotes.
>>338796452
The book of Joshua, aka "How the Jews murdered thousands upon thousands of gentiles in God's name." Arguably Job, but its exploration of theodicy and value as pre-classical literature leave it in a gray area.
>>338793812
bruh, englightenment is just a fancy way of saying someone is calm in mind. you probably achieve mini spells of "enlightenment" or insight throughout the day. it's not so much something you obtain, but more returning to your true nature you were born with. like washing all the cruft off.
>>338780928
Main characters are above Gods on the power scale
>>338780928
Depends on your definition of "God". If you mean an all-knowing, all-powerful, all-present entity or being beyond mortal kin able to create something from nothing, then no, a mortal isn't gonna kill it.
If you mean a being modeled after humanity or animals whose power is in a single aspect of reality (ie: can shoot lighting from their ass), then yeah they can be killed.
Because they're not "Gods", they're just beings of power who like to go around calling themselves "Gods" because it excites their nipples.
Nipples.
>protagonist tricks god and he fucks off.
>Jesus is god/god's son
>Born knowing the plan and he has superpowers and shit
>Gets killed on a cross
>Comes back to life and fucks off to heaven
Someone explain to me how this was a sacrifice. It probably didn't even hurt. If you die on purpose and then you come back to life and get the best seat in heaven it does not count as a tragedy or suffering.
>>338796792
I was expecting some gay fedora shit whining that a Bronze age god didn't share his post-modern egalitarian bullshit like in
>>338796790
I pretty much agree that Jews are generally awful.
>>338796790
sounds like a game of Populace that I had from not that long ago desu.
>>338795307
From Christianity another fanfic gospels where created. Fuck, there is a non canon gospel that pretty much put Jesus in the world of the pagan gods and there he actually meets the roman gods. He is trying to reach the one true god.
It's actually pretty fun.
>>338795259
The Archons are monsters that according to ancient jewish mythology. Were created from the lowest form of the Godhead (Yaldaboath that spawned from Sophia, that spawned from God).
They were Cosmic beings that hated humanity because they were capable of feeling happiness, love and all that good stuff and to make things even worse for them, Humans have a spark of divinity inside them that was placed there by God itself. Yaldaboath and the Archons hated humans and wanted to corrupt them. You see, Archons can only enjoy fucked up shit like the crap that you find on Deep Weeb creepy pastas. They want humans to remain on the material realm of the Cosmos so they can enjoy seeing them doing horrible shit to each other (wars, rape, murder, torture, pedophilia and all the crap that happens when you combine all that shit into a single fucked up orgy of blood). The Archons apperently are responsible for some of the Dark Magic that involve ritualistic murder (a greek branch of magic was named after the Archon of magic, Iao). While curious enough, another brand of magic is actually supported by the Jewish Angel: Metatron.
Then the greeks grabbed the idea and decided to add more shit to an already complicated myth. Epicurus argumented that the Problem of Evil was that god was not good and some assholes decided that was somehow related to the how the Archons try to corrupt humanity. And then you got Plato giving you the Form of the Good, which indicates that Good is the perfection that humanity can acchieve by being.. well, good to each other. This shit was somewhat similar to the Gnostic myth in that the Idea of Good of the Theory of the Forms is actually the Spark of Divinity.
I figure that with all there in is our universe, if not multiverse, then yeah there's probably something that fits the description of God.
But I really doubt our perception of God is right, or that it gives a shit what goes down on this one little planet. Maybe if we become a galaxy-spanning empire it'll care. Maybe. there's a lot of galaxies out there.
>>338797014
Is God capable of any and all acts?
Then he could have made himself into a form which perfectly experienced the suffering as described.
I'm not even a Christian any more but most of Christian apologetics is spent telling retard fedoras who watched AmazingAtheist how stupid they are
>>338797054
>Archons can only enjoy fucked up shit like the crap that you find on Deep Weeb creepy pastas. They want humans to remain on the material realm of the Cosmos so they can enjoy seeing them doing horrible shit to each other (wars, rape, murder, torture, pedophilia and all the crap that happens when you combine all that shit into a single fucked up orgy of blood).
So basically precursor Cenobites?
>>338780928
It just works
>>338797014
>It probably didn't even hurt
>>338797054
where do you find this esoteric shit? It fascinates me, and I imagine many other readers here as well.
>>338797139
I think the closest thing to a 'God' that we could encounter in reality would be a hyper-advanced post-organic civilization somewhere out in the depths of space.
>>338797014
>Get hit and laughed at by jew mafia
>Get whipped harder than a BDSM porn actress
>People decide they love a murderer more than their prophet and send you to death
>Nailed to a piece of wood, almost naked for hours on end
>Get stabbed in the torso, probably got your legs broken too therefore you stop gaining brouzofs
>Not a sacrifice
>>338796452
Book of Job.
God and one of his angels named Satan get into an argument about whether this righteous guy Job is faithful to God only because his life is easy.
So God says "Alright Satan. Make him miserable: he will still be faithful." And Satan does that. Job is still faithful so Satan goes, "Just let me make him more miserable, he'll reject you I promise." So Satan does worse and worse to try to break Job. By the end Job is horribly sick, all of his family has died in some horrible way, he has lost everything he owned, and if I remember correctly, birds have shat into his eyes blinding him. Then Satan admits defeat and God gives Job new fortune and new family to make up for the old family that got killed off. Thanks YHWH.
>>338782014
>starts game
>intro screen has an anonymous quote
>>338797538
The Lord giveth, the Lord taketh away. Tough shit.
>>338796790
You can do whatever you want as long as god tells you to. God is not a reasonable defense in court.
>>338796825
N-nipples?
>>338797640
But the Lord didn't taketh away, Satan did to try and prove a point to God.
Is Unas the hardest hitting motherfucking deity in all of mythology?
>Slayed the gods
>Feasted on their corpses to become the strongest
>Became the stars of Orion
>>338797717
Keikaku doori
>>338797538
He did get pissed by the end, before God came to him directly.
>>338797219
Kinda, yeah. Leviathan would be Yaldaboath in this scenario. But that guy is just a very scared manchildren that doesn't want to end up alone but hides his fear of God and humans by being an edgy asshole.
To make things even more messed up. New Ages idiots decided that the Archons are somehow related to the UFO's because ONE of the descriptions that is given to the Archons is very similar to the usual portrayal of the grey aliens. It's so retarded that the myth got out of control and now you can't even enjoy the story because of some idiots that takes this shit too seriously.
>>338797185
Yeah but it wasn't even that bad. People die in way worse ways every day. If he got his skin peeled off and set on fire then maybe I'd believe it but he chose a really softcore way to die. He could have chose to die of ebola or something but nah he just chose to be nailed to a couple boards. Sounds like he just wanted to half ass it.
>>338797305
I read. Also, i used to bait the shit out of /x/.
>>338797717
But in that story Satan is an angel of God who gets permission to take away.
>>338797819
Yeah if I recall this is because everyone keeps telling him that his suffering is his fault because there was a belief that only evil people had bad things happen to them.
>>338797832
>People die in way worse ways every day.
You heard about the one about the maggots, poop and honey?
>>338797538
>Yo god I bet I can break one of your followers by making him suffer
>Nuh uh. Try it.
>It didn't work but this time it's really going to work. You wanna bet? I'll kill his family in horrible ways.
>Yeah you're on
Many years later
>Well, god I guess you were right. You win.
>>338797932
Well its not exactly a hard feat to do today considering that /x/ is more roleplaying and spoopy skinwalker stories then anything else.
>>338780928
A god isn't always defined as something omnipotent.
>>338798013
God reimbursed Job in every way afterwards though. He lived long, had a big new family, and was rich as fuck.
>>338797961
On the boat?
>>338798147
Yeah but Job didn't know that was gonna happen
>>338798153
Yep
>>338798147
What about the old family tho
>>338798238
ded probably
>>338798186
And?
>>338798238
They're in heaven.
>>338798107
>/x/ is more roleplaying
And idiotic "magiks" threads. Or wankers asking for imaginary fuck toys.
>>338798186
Yeah I guess it was fucked up, but he still won in the end.
If God had told Job there would be a reward at the end, then the bet would be skewed, since he'd know he was being played and it wouldn't be a pure test of faith anymore.
>>338798186
Isn't that the point of faith?
At least try to keep it vidya, faggotrons.
>>338798147
The old family still died and Job still experienced that misfortune.
>>338798278
Nah. They're waiting in Hell for the Messiah.
>>338798013
>missing the point
The specifics of Job's suffering are ultimately irrelevant. The motivation for his suffering, OTOH, is the crux of the book. In this case (this is prior to the establishment of Satan as "the Devil" and ultimate evil; here he is merely an adversary or prosecutorial character), man suffers that he may prove or forge his faith.
>>338798393
Didn't get enough from being ignored the first time round friend?
>>338788105
could be wrong, but when Christianity started tossing it's weight around all the pagan lands, weren't the majority of their pagan gods demoted to saints or demons depending on if they were good dudes or not?
someone should make a Gods fighting game with gods all religions
>>338798418
I thought Jews don't have a concept of hell.
>>338795797
I think that's the whole thing with Islam.
You die and you return to God literally, because only God is eternal, but you still gotta have eternal peace in the afterlife, so-
>>338798278
>And?
If Job knew that it was all a cosmic game, he would know to stay on God's side the whole way through. Faith wouldn't be a factor anymore if God promised a reward, and that'd defeat the whole deal.
>>338798418
Yes, which sucked, but he got rewarded both on Earth and in Heaven. His old family was waiting for him there.
>>338798508
>Pick YVHV
>Win before the match starts
>>338798508
>inb4 someone complains that Allah is OP and pagan gods are literally unplayable in ranked matches.
>>338798515
What is Gehenna?
>>338798481
>weren't the majority of their pagan gods demoted to saints or demons depending on if they were good dudes or not?
No.
Also no
And no.
What the fuck are you on about?
No.
>>338798549
>If Job knew that it was all a cosmic game, he would know to stay on God's side the whole way through. Faith wouldn't be a factor anymore if God promised a reward, and that'd defeat the whole deal.
So he did good, right?
>>338798515
The Hindus would throw a fit. Those guys are huge bitches.
>>338798278
This was before Jesus. There's no guarantee they went to heaven. God let those people be tortured to death because Satan tricked him into it on a dare.
>>338798515
You'd be right; the early Hebrews instead believed in Sheol, a universal, inevitable underworld.
>>338798661
An actual physical place next to Mount Zion
>>338798753
Well they do have a reason to be bitchy since their entire pantheon is pantsu on retarded desu
>>338798780
Job was a good man of God, I'm sure he had his family on the right track.
>>338797538
I don't understand, wasn't Satan not an Angel anymore after influencing Adam, and Eve? Why would he still be an angel and have contact with God here. Because they're A&E are supposed to be the first two humans alive.
Because you're a pleb who can't read between the lines.
Gods were the pinnacles of the virtues of man, the representation of the very idea of ideal to any given abstract of thought and emotion.
Love, lust, war, mercy, hunting, crafting, knowledge, despair, dreams, sleep, power, deception, debauchery. All of the things which could ever dwell within the human spirit.
And ideas can live on beyond a lifetime, earning the title of immortal
Vengeance can move through one person to the next, living forever
Mercy and love fight against war and greed for seemingly endless generations
But while ideals have the potential to live forever, they are not invincible.
And one whom can wield their virtues is a god unto themself, able to slay or evoke the gods themselves in the heart of every other soul.
>>338799029
By the way the bible is written, it appears that Satan may have been more than one dude and not just the Morning Star.
>>338798664
demonizing pagan deities when christian empires conquered them and absorbed their religions? thats not a thing?
>>338797932
>I read.
Obviously. Anything specific?
>>338799031
Sounds like the plot synopsis to the average JRPG
>>338798949
But there's no guarantee. They could have died cursing god for all the bullshit he put them through and went to hell. And they'd be totally justified in doing it. Then when they're all dead through suffering, and Job is still an alive crazy man, he gets a new family that doesn't have to go through that shit and lodsamone because he put his family through some shit.
>>338798515
It depends on the Jew, and it's not Lake 'o Fire hell. It's more of a waiting for God to create paradise limbo or type deal.
A lot of people no longer use the term Hell to refer to it but I like the middle-ages feel that referring to it as Hell gives. It is the Hell in "The Harrowing of Hell" that refers to Judgment day in Judaism and the events immediately after Jesus's death in Christianity. The Jewish word is Sheol.
>>338794734
>punish to educate.
Its incredible how modern parents cant understand this logic
>>338798508
>>338798753
I meant this.
To be honest. It would be better if it was just gods of old mythological background that nobody worships. Kinda like a combination of Age of Mythologies and that shitty comic book God is Dead.
All the Gods fighting to control the world and beating the shit out of each other.
>>338799029
Satan isn't one person and he's not the king of hell or anything like that. That's made up because it's simpler.
>>338799029
Ignoring the fact that Genesis contains at least two different Creation stories blended together, complete with multiple gods in the Elohim, it never makes any actual mention of Satan. The serpent is just that - a serpent. Christians went back and amended that shit later.
Poliel did N O T H I N G wrong!
>>338796192
those poor dinosaurs then, having to float around all day
>>338799246
Just read Everworld.
>>338799396
How else do you think they got so big, with no gravity weighing them down
I'm more into the idea that there isn't a "god" and god is everything and everything is connected in one organism. This seems more accurate than he's one separate thing and has a bunch of angels or there are a bunch of different ones.
>>338799530
Fuck, it all makes sense now.
>>338799029
The bible, especially the Old Testament is really complicated and contradictory in many cases because it's an amalgamation of various religious texts written by different cultures hundreds of years apart.
Oh and that trickster is just referred to as a snake.
>>338799103
The concept of Lucifer is a late middle ages Christian construction.
>>338799212
>culture decided to make college near free for most everyone with a cunt and a different skin color than white
This is ludicrously untrue.
>>338799541
Isn't the "nature is god" thing just deism?
>>338799324
This intrigues me. What was the second creation story? Was it actually just God's creation of the Earth, and Adam and Eve's creation being two separate things and to make it simpler the two were fused?
>>338782014
>start game
>intro screen has a ricky quote
>>338799616
Maybe that wasn't the case in 2011 now however is isn't really that far off.
>>338799643
Not nature. Literally everything. We're just one big organism. It's in us as equally as in everything else because there is no everything else. It's just one.
>>338799705
College is more expensive in the US now than it was in 2011
>>338799616
Please tell that to my face. Iowa State is nothing but Indians and Asians and women, and I'll let you look up how much of Iowa is white and Hispanic.
>>338799705
No it's not. Do you enjoy talking out your ass?
>>338782014
>starts game
>intro screen has a quote
>2016
>not worshiping the one true god>and our original Sun
>>338799673
God's singlehanded creation of Creation itself is indeed one story, yes. Eden afterward is the other. IIRC, the Eden story is considerably closer to the original than the latter, as the Jews didn't devote themselves to exclusive monotheism until quite a bit later.
>>338799125
Beleve it or not. Some comic books nail this shit pretty good. Berserk actually talks about the Idea of Evil quite well (a shame we don't know if that shit is still canon). Prometea by Alan Moore is pretty much an explanation on how this myths work.
Read the Non Canon Gospels especially Thomas and Judas (almost all of them are nonsense and i really can't blame the Catholic Church for trying to fix that mess, but some of them are really interesting).
Dive into the mythologies of other cultures. And do not, i repeat, do not read any of the shit that involve magic cause that is just a huge waste of time.
>>338799759
I don't know where you live so sadly I can't tell it to your face but maybe Iowa State is mostly Indians and Asians and women because they apply themselves and got into college instead of your "they took muh school" mentality.
>>338799790
Yes actually I do as well as pissing off things like yourself desu.
>>338781740
why would a god have to look?
I mean if we are talking about a real god wouldn't he/she/it be omnipotent and omniscient and all powerful? He/she/it would know everything about everything so if he/she/it really wanted the events leading to your birth would never happen and because he/she/it is outside time you technically would have never existed, not even as a thought in he/she/it's mind.
But yeah, if he/she/it/them created the universe and were able to make everything that ever was, is, and will be, why in the fuck would anything ever be a challenge for them?
>>338799616
Women and minorities have a far easier time getting grants/scholarships, so yes, actually, it is true. Ludicrously true.
>arguing with my friends who don't believe in evolution
>>338782379
well, i know what i'm doing for the next hour.
>>338799643
Not at all. Deism posits that one supreme and ultimate deity created the universe and set in motion the laws that govern it, then allowed it to play out naturally. Hence "natural laws" and the scientific concept of laws. The actual order is a bit more muddied. In any case, it's more like "God is a watchmaker and the universe is his watch" than "God is a giant living clock."
>>338797538
I always thought this story was retarded. Satan manipulates God's ego to get him to torture one of his most devout followers, even though he obviously knows the outcome.
>>338799961
And yet minorities are less likely to even go to college because even with a scholarship it's still incredibly expensive.
>>338800012
>arguing with my friends who don't believe in evolution
Why do you hang with those people?
So what's the deal with Metatron? I remember reading a story that he was so powerful that some guy mistook him for God and God had him beaten in front of the guy to show him he wasn't the top nigga.
>>338799467
I don't wanna read it. I wanna play it.
It would hilarious to cut Zeus in half by playing as Ra. Or beating the living shit out of Susano with Thor.
>>338799616
There are many scholarships that are specifically for women or minorities.
If you are a white male, unless you have Native American ancestry, you aren't getting shit for your race/sex.
In addition, I've heard things about some minorities getting allowed entrance to universities with lower standardized test scores.
It's not "near free" but you have many more opportunities for scholarships as a woman/minority.
>>338787712
didnt the oracle said "a son", not a child in general?
>>338800172
Mettaton?
>>338800172
Isn't he literally just the voice of God because humans can't stand the awesome power of God's voice?
>>338800228
>In addition, I've heard things about some minorities getting allowed entrance to universities with lower standardized test scores.
That reminds me of some test score information regarding minorities that used to float around a few years back, maybe on /pol/.
>>338800001
>338800001
Close, but no cigar.
>>338799616
Just look up the medical school acceptance rates from the American Medical Association themselves. If you're black, you'll get accepted even if you're orders of magnitude below the Asians applying.
>>338800152
It comes up naturally. I live in a place with a lot of Christians who try to get me to be Christian with them and I say no I don't want to go to your church meetings but we can still hang out. And when we hang out natural conversation leads to me finding out how retarded and ignorant they are.
>>338800228
Not him but scholarships based on race/sex give a pittance in terms of funding most of the time unless you can actually get good grades too.
>>338797538
Doesn't God know everything though? Including the future?
He should've just said "You dont understand Satan, this is not up for discussion, I literally know what'll happen"
the end
>>338800095
Depends on where you go. I'm going essentially for free on scholarship, but I'm awhite male.
>>338799863
>>and our original Sun
>It's a "I'll spout complete nonsense as if it had the slightest possibility of being true because I skipped high school physics class" episode
>>>/x/
>>338800012
most people like that will never change their mind. the only way humanity will move forward is by teaching the young minds what the few knew to be true. over newer generations, the truth will become the new standard.
the conservative views of the older generations were once progressive back when they were young. now that they've grown old their views have also grown old. the cycle will continue on like this until humanity doesn't exist anymore.
stop worrying.
>>338800407
Good grades are usually necessary to maintain scholarships, anyway, especially academic ones.
>be me
>be Catholic
>humans have free will
>angels don't have free will
>if we're bad in life we suffer in Hell for all eternity
>if we're good we go to Heaven and become slaves when we turn into angels
What do I do???
>>338800228
>i've heard things
I bet
Scholarships don't make a difference if 1: you don't have enough money. If you didn't have enough money to go to college a scholarship isn't going to do shit and 2: You have grades to be accepted into college
>>338800451
>responding to it
I did the same thing but I didn't go to a main campus so I didn't have to worry about insane pricing.
>>338800228
And the bulk of them are created and funded by third-party organizations that seek to represent and support historically marginalized groups.
>>338800442
Satan doesn't believe that God knows everything.
>>338800537
>when we turn into angels
This is sum gud headcanon.
>>338800601
But why does that matter? Why is God's ego damaged by Satan not believing him?
>>338800537
>if we're good we go to Heaven and become slaves when we turn into angels
hol up
do all humans turn into angels in heaven?
>>338800537
Put your hand on a lit stove and ask yourself if you're prepared for an eternity of that x1000.
>>338800675
Old Testament God was a hormonal 14 year old who had a serious ego problem.
There's a reason why the OT is summed up with the tagline "There is one God, and he is pissed"
>>338800172
He was Enoch, the great grandfather of Noah. The guy impressed God enough to take him into his realm and turn him into an archangel. The King of all Angels.
The guy has a seal that according to the myth supposedly has the shape of the universe. He was one of the 3 top dogs in the heavenly real with Raziel Archangel of the Holy Secrets (of all secrets actually) and Michael the Leader of the God's Army.
Metatron can actually sit in the throne because he is god's scribe, he listens to what god got to say and writes it in a book or a scroll.
>>338800545
1. Scholarships can go as far as covering full tuition and room and board (even just for one). It depends entirely on the scholarship, and you can get multiple. If you need to, you can also take out loans to supplement this. If you're getting a good degree, you can repay them after graduating.
2. If you already fucked yourself in high school, you probably don't belong in college, and if you plan on going to college, you'll probably be able to find a way to get decent standardized test scores, since they all can be learned.
>>338782059
And then there's shit like bayonetta and persona
>one true abrahamic god
>it's just a disembodied head with jaundice or a guy you can PUNCH... INTO THE SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUN?
>>338800537
Hoy.
>>338800537
>when we turn into angels
That's Jehovah's Witness, and even then only for a select few.
>>338800537
Stop being catholic? How hard can it be?
>>338800675
If you are to believe the old testament it's because he's a jealous and petty god. The new testament is what makes it seem like he's your bro who loves you unconditionally and yet with tons of conditions.
>>338800537
>be me
Well that was your first mistake there dumb frogposter.
>>338800516
It's just insane to me that someone can be so stupid. I bring up science and they say it's nonsense or say that they simply have no idea how that could happen like vestigial bones. College has taught me how close minded people really are.
>>338800785
>>338800172
...according to the Jewish apocrypha. It's not biblical canon.
>>338800537
>we turn into angels
where did you hear those heresies you fucking philistine?
>>338800537
>be Catholic
You're supposed to suffer. That's the point.
>>338800537
Nowhere in the Bible does it imply humans can become angels.
Anything that does is apocryphal.
>>338800937
Canon only matters if you believe in the bible anyway
>>338800802
>persona
>one true abrahamic god
>>338800798
This is true but there is no scholariship for minorities or gender that covers that much unless it's a cheap college anyway. Those kinds of scholarships are determined by ability.
>>338801018
so what do humans in heaven become? Do we just cease to exist and the only other option is suffer for eternity?
>>338800920
>during my public speaking course
>one girl does a persuasive speech on becoming a Christian
>mentions something about 'scientists' finding something in our bodies (I honestly don't remember what it was; the way she described it sounded like she was talking about atoms or some equivalent) that were shaped like crosses and that's one reason why God exists
>mentally facepalm
>>338800442
God wanted to demonstrate to Satan what was going to happen.
Also book of Job marks a change in faith towards a belief that this world is a sort of ground to develop virtue. This contrasts with an older belief that if bad things happen to you, it's because you're being punished.
>>338793416
But can Buddha kill servants?
>>338801023
Whether or not you believe, I was clarifying that it's not a part of many Christian ideologies.
I'm beginning to think Greek Orthodox may be the best approach to Christianity because it's supposedly the truest to it, and I might check it out.
>>338801116
we get to netflix and chill
>>338800835
Can't. Once he's Cathoilc, he'll suffer.
>>338801168
he already is one, so yes
>>338800537
Actually they do have free will and they love like humans. Raphael actually blushed when Adam asked him this and answered with a hasty "Yes" and then flew out of that place as fast as he could.
>>338801116
Spirits in Heaven.
>>338801140
There are a hundred good ways to argue for Christianity and people always choose things that just sound retarded.
>>338800937
Christians believe in shit outside of the bible too, i.e. Lucifer.
>>338801116
Nah the typical belief is that you get a second perfected body to live in paradise with God.
>>338801116
>so what do humans in heaven become
still humans, except in the presence of God
>>338801181
Anything after the Nicene Creed is basically heresy, so who really gives a shit?
>>338801227
Depends how strict his family is/was. Not all Catholics are hard asses.
>>338801116
You sing YHVH's praises forever.
>>338801264
Gabriel is my waifu.
Don't Catholics consider literal bible fanfiction Dante's Inferno to be true?
But what does God need with a starship?
>>338801308
>>338801332
>>338801301
so we have to live perfect regulated lives to die then live the same life but with some giant old fart watching us at all times? Why would anyone want this.
>>338801303
Not if they only believe in the canon Bible and follow it, as they should.
>>338801143
This is an incredibly good way to look at suffering in general, and it will give you a more optimistic view towards life.
>>338801140
This friend who didn't believe in evolution also believed electrons weren't real because we can't see them.
>>338801353
Michael>Gabriel>Raphael>Uriel
>>338801143
>>338800601
He's all powerful too though, and he controls the angels, which do not have free will and aren't even living beings.
Why couldn't he just mind trick Satan or show him what he sees for a moment?
>>338801382
Most don't. But Catholicism is more multifaceted than you think.
For example the Jesuits are panentheists.
>>338800920
were only human. it wasn't long ago that were apes running around in the savannah. humanity despite building rocketships and what not, is still pretty basic. we are short sighted and still see the world through the small perception of whats right in front of us.
that perception served us well when our survial was based on hunting, and fucking. but now that we affect our planet, now that a decsion made by one person can affect the lifes of every other person on this planet, that perception holds us back.
Its sad but you have to give evolution time to catch up with our progress. If we haven't killed ourselves in a hundred thousand years perhaps we won't be as held back by our past.
Or maybe they'll have to deal with the same shit of us holding them back. who knows.
>>338801382
No, why the fuck would they?
It's just a nice read.
>>338801324
I care about trying to get to the core of the faith. I feel like if more people were true to Christianity we'd have a better world.
>>338801382
Not any I know, it's just an epic poem.
>>338801449
But they believe in God even though they can't see it. Sounds like typical religious logic alright.
>>338801462
if angels don't have free will, what is satan? He clearly has free will and questions everything god does.
>>338801116
You probably just turn into fuel for God's power so he can battle other gods. He needs pure souls because they're the best kind of fuel.
>>338800391
Again, why do you bother still being friends with them?
>>338801425
That's a poor interpretation.
It would be more like living in perfect spiritual harmony and fulfillment for eternity.
>>338801382
No, but they do worship saints.
>>338801425
you don't live the same life m8, if only because once in the kingdom of heaven, you are outside of time itself
>>338801567
The bible is a bunch of bullshit and it contradicts itself. Just make sure that you don't combine more than one type of cloth into your clothes.
Who needs God when you can have a system of AIs?
What's the deal with Lucifer and Satan? Are they two different beings or the same dude?
>>338801563
one of my coworkers arguments for evolution existing is "why don't we see half-monkey people or monkeys turning into people"
>>338800391
>retarded and ignorant
This is not because they're Christian necessarily, but because they're retarded and ignorant.
I'm fairly certain the Catholic Church even formally acknowledges evolution as true, though guided by God, but I suspect they were protestant.
>>338801704
Extremely overrated.
>>338801704
Who needs God when you can have fragments of God based upon popular virtues/emotions?
>>338801547
You should be trying to find your own way instead of trying to rely on Christianity. There's no such thing as true Christianity as this thread has explained.
>>338785423
>>338781929
>>338785070
>all gods are like the grecoroman / nordic pantheon
oh, the irony of telling someone to go read a book
>>338801480
>>338800920
like population for instance. its written in our dna to fuck and produce offspring. offspring and survival are the two most important things for every form of life.
but what happens when producing offspring negatively affects survival? this planet can't sustain the billions we have for long, nor can it sustain the tens of billions we will soon have.
but its natural for every mommy and daddy to want to create kids despite the fact that they are ending up destroying the planet because they can't see past their small view. our evolution just hasn't caught up with the times. we're only human.
>>338800516
>>338801480
>t. Angsty teenager
>>338801567
The Christian belief of free will is insanely strict. If you were to build a prefect AI a Christian would say that it has no free will.
>>338801760
That seems to be the biggest one. You can't see evolution happening therefore it's not. Also frequently coupled with the earth is 2000 years old.
>>338801760
How fast do they think evolution works?
Even Darwin's finches took a couple centuries
>>338782014
You act like if games use different Nietzsche quotes.
>>338801963
>earth is 2000 years old
No one thinks this.
>>338801737
Canonically different beings but often mistaken as the same.
>>338801760
I'm a Christian and I can tell you that we actually have monkeys that are seemingly entering a Stone Age, since they're developing an understanding of tool usage.
We even have monkeys that can comprehend sign language. It's not hard to see that we're of the same roots since the other hominids and primates are generally more intelligent than others.
I think, given tens of millions of more years of uninterrupted evolution, we might even see the emergence of another intelligent ape.
>>338801938
It's totally true though.
>>338801938
>t. Cuck
>>338794070
>his wife Kali has eaten every living thing
voreboner.jpg>which is after the final Avatar of Vishnu, Kalki, has destroyed all evilthe evil are slain quickly, the good are devoured alive
vore_boner_intensifies.targ
>>338800537
>mom turned more religious over the years
>meets a man who implys hes an angel and higher rank the Gabrial
>he changes his angel name every now and then
>she still belives him
>>338801954
The thing is, angels probably aren't even a perfect AI, they're constructs made by god to follow his will and to be extensions of him. I don't think they're conscious.
>>338802039
My friend does
>>338801963
Ofcourse you can see evolution happening. And those half apes are chimpanzees, gorilla's and urangoetans. They are "apes" and not monkeys.
No wonder you can't argue with these people if you don't even have the knowledge yourself.
>>338802001
they expect it to be like pokemon, even though I try to explain to them it takes hundreds, or thousands to see even minor changes. Like you have slightly more muscle mass than your dad, your kids will too, and if they continue breeding with other people that have larger muscles you'll eventually have a family branch that is far stronger than when they first started.
>>338799467
>The Aztecs are fucking everyone up
Wut?
>>338801938
not angsty man. I know fully well I'm apart of the problem just like every other human being.
hell every person or at least most people have thought and said the same thing I'm saying. its a normal thing to view the species as faulty based on what you perceive. thats exactly the point im making about our evolution hasn't caught up yet because im full of shit, you're full of shit, he's full of shit, we're all full of shit.
>>338801847
That's what I've done so far and I'm pretty happy with it. I've mostly tried to follow Jesus's teachings about loving one another and forgiving others. It's done very well for me so far.
Also, of course, the Ten Commandments, but some of the other old laws seem to be very contextually concerned with health, reproduction, and propagation of the faith (mixing fibers, homosexuality, etc...).
>>338802052
The earth will be either destroyed and we'll have fucked off by then or we'd have jumpstarted primate and ape growth before nature got around to it. Plus we'd be gods ourselves in that time.
>>338802158
Why don't you beat some sense in him?
>>338802039
I'm a Christian in a very Christian place and I actually met a girl who thought this. I just asked her "When did the Old Testament happen, then?"
She couldn't give me an answer.
>>338802001
Natural selection can show a shift in phenotype in a few generations anon. You can even demonstrate with simulations of coloured boxes. It's a really simple concept
>>338802227
You're doing better than most. Most people aren't even strong of mind enough to consider things outside their teachings.
>>338802238
do you think humans will ever evolve to a point where we leave behind organic bodies?
>>338802154
there is literally nothing that states angels don't have free will
>>338802167
Nigga I was bringing up vestigial bones to this guy and he replied with "I don't know."
>>338799103
Modern Christianity would have you burned at the stake for saying something like that. Even though it's true.
Originally, Lucifer Morningstar was an Angel and head of God's musicians (a very important role as God requires the constant singing/song of a select group of Angels to power him - I shit you not), who became jealous that God was more interested in Flawed Humans than Perfect Angels, and led a revolt against Him with 40% of all the Angels.
The Angels were cast out of Heaven to live on Earth (becoming "fallen angels" as they had literally fallen from His Grace), fucked the humans, and birth a bunch of giants (Nephilim) which God eventually wiped out (mostly) with a massive Flood (Originally, the Book of Exodus had Moses wiping most the last of them out once he and the remnants of God's People finally left the desert and came upon their promised land).
Lucifer, meanwhile, was chained down for about a thousand years on Earth until being freed. He never got to go back to Heaven, so he just wandered the Earth, occasionally getting God as a visitor, and otherwise living it up to this day.
Satan was an entirely different Angel who also was forced to exist outside God's Grace/Presence as it was his role to tempt humans away from God in order to test humans...under the specific instruction of God. What a dick, huh? Satan couldn't exist with God as he was a deceiver by nature and was, therefore, "sinful", which was anathema to God. He also hung-out on Earth until the Christians co-opted the Norse, though Satan & Lucifer had been made a singular being long before this to make the religion "simpler".
Yeah. Early Yahweh followers believed all this fairytale bullshit.
>>338802238
Yeah, it's pretty obvious that's going to happen. I wouldn't be surprised if we become a hivemind of sorts and create our own new planet or system with our own species.
Who knows, we might even figure out how to transfer consciousnesses and create our own afterlives, if that's even possible.
>>338802154
the good doctor already settled the matter desu
http://www.newadvent.org/summa/1059.htm
>>338802323
And what disturbs me the most is that teachings are so obviously slanted in favor of personal views.
>>338801938
I don't think you know what that word means.
>picrelate
>>338802158
What are these pictures of?
>>338802131
Get rid of this man before he tells your mom to suicide or do something crazy.
>>338802154
Most Christians would also say that it's impossible for anything other than God or a human to be conscious so even a perfect AI not be conscious. So Angels are more like philosophical zombies to them.
>>338801847
Yep even in one branch of Christianity, Catholicism, you have very conflicting beliefs. Pic related is some panenthistic mysticism stuff.
>>338802502
his devastated prolapsed anus
>>338802502
A thread from a while ago where a guy got a Fox Amiibo and broke it and then tried to paint it. The thread was deleted by a mod who hated fun.
>>338800012
>>338800391
what am i looking at here
>>338802420
And I thought fanfiction was an autistic past time. They have been doing this shit for thousands of years.
>>338802549
>Most Christians
fucking nonsense
It is indisputable that angels can know God, therefore they are conscious
>>338802327
It will be happening soon. 2030 is marked but it will probably take a little longer. I've started to worry about whether or not this is actually a good idea. If you upload your consciousness to a computer, can it really replicate all of the brain's functions? Stuff like that. There's so much we don't know.
>>338802421
We will probably become a hivemind or a few hiveminds if we split up far enough before it happens.
>>338802652
but what is the real truth anon?
>>338802154
Are we talking about Christian Angels here
Because fucking Satan himself was one, to name the most obvious.
The bible is chokefull with angels doing angel stuff on their own account.
>>338802740
>muh singularity meme
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>>338795359
lol every time u fucked someone u fukt urself
>>338798508
>Thor and Susanooh are the the typical shoto clones of the game
>Jesus is the counter character
>Odin, Ra and Zeus are the zoners, Zeus has a Jupiter skin
>Budha is the grappler
>Quetzalcoatl is the gimmick meme character
>Lucifer is the rushdown character with weirdass inputs
>Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi are one character and its the puppeter character
>Final Boss is YVHV or all of the giant snakes of different religions fused together (Typhoon, Jormungand, Orochi, etc)
>>338802916
What do you think will happen then?
>>338802748
my peenus weanus
haha
>>338802680
>It is indisputable that angels can know God, therefore they are conscious
t. your beliefs
Knowing doesn't mean conscious.
God I love /x/. It's such a fun time.
>>338803016
Not whatever you were thinking in the next 30 years brah if anything we will be heading to a cyberpunk future of overcrowding, further class separation and the world being run by corporations. All the benefits of technology will be out of reach for the likes of you and me.
>>338802420
>why isn't religion and mythology more realistic!
>>338799902
>And do not, i repeat, do not read any of the shit that involve magic cause that is just a huge waste of time.
what does that mean
>>338802968
>I'm telling you. If they don't nerf Thor i'm gonna throw this game down the toilet.
>You just need to beat the game on the hardest difficulty with every god to get to play as YVHV. Oh! And no matter what, if you reach the level where Thor is dressed as a woman, DO NOT FUCK THE GIANT. The developers made him a cute trap on purpose. If you do, you can't play as YVHV because he hates faggots
I wish these threads could last longer
>>338795308
This.
It's totally a mortal coping tactic.
>I'm so scared that I will die like everything else literally ever in existence!
>But what if you could live forever?
>WELL, uh, it would totally suck! Because, you'd have to see your friends and family die, and your lovers would all grow old and die in front of you, and every time you make new ones it would seem briefer and briefer as life becomes more and more trivial to you and if you fall in lava you couldn't swim and no one could get you out abd blah blaa b;a
But I mean seriously, you could always make new friends, experience all kinds of people, go everywhere and do everything, it would take centuries just to master every passtime, centuries more to master every job and career path, another century or two to master every educational field in school, millenia to read every book, even longer to experience every website! Just stay away from volcanoes.
>Were NASA. We're so sad that we can't send anyone on a century-or-more-long mission to a distant system with earth-like planets to try and discover intelligent life!
Well guess who you can sign up? The motherfucker who lives forever. You can drop them in a foreign environment on solid ground and as long as they can move, they're fine. You can send a return craft whenever you manage to figure out how, and the immortal one will be waiting, trying to pass the time by fucking around in alien land.
So people are naturally jealous of someone who could live forever. Since we know immortality would never happen to us even if it did exist, we try to cope by imagining that being immortal wouldn't be all smiles after all.
WE PAGE 10
GOOD NIGHT YOU WONDERFUL CIVIL BASTARDS
FUCK YOU SHITPOSTING NEWFAGS
YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE
>>338803323
/x/ talks A LOT of shit about how "magic" is directly related to this stuff. But it's bullshit. It's a waste of time.
>>338798508
You could make a pretty good game out of all the people claimed to have been the Son of God.
I wanna beat up Jesus as Caesar Augustus.
