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Do you like Final Fantasy XIV?
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Do you like Final Fantasy XIV?
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>>338579523
I used to, but it's boring right now and the upcoming patch doesn't look to promising.
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I liked 1.23 and subsequently ARR. HW pidgeon-holed the game into a shittier treadmill with some of the worst choices you could possibly make. Hunts were fucking awful, fuck hunts.
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>>338579523
Sort of. I quit a few months ago but still get the itch to play from time to time. I think I mainly just miss seeing my femroe
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I love the game. It gets too much hate around here. It's basically the only MMO worth playing.
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I hated everything after 3.0.
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I like it a lot. I play it with about 6-8 people and we have fun, although savage is too hard to have fun with.
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>>338579654
Hunts existed in ARR. They were also great because they got players out in the world killing big monsters

HW has literally used the same content model as ARR

You're fuckin dumb kid
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>>338579523
Yes, don't care if some turbo neets think you need 24 hours fighting a boss to get some enjoyment out of something
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>>338579703
WoD even though it's shit is still better.
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>>338579793
Nah WoD is bottom of the barrel scum. If you said MoP during Isle of Thunder patch that would shit all over FFXIV right now.
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>>338579774
Except hunts were NEVER the only method of getting gear as it was in the beginning of HW. So go fuck yourself kid.
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>>338579921
>Hunts
>only method of getting gear
wat when did this happen ever
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>>338579523
>Boring combat
>main appeal is set pieces and fan-service
>My girlfriend broke up with me for some fat dude they met on FFXIV who used to shower her with free shit

Nothing about it was good
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>>338579975
Learn to fucking read. The gearing process for the beginning of HW was literally hunts outside of primal for your weapon.
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>>338580062
you never HAD to do hunts dungeoning was still a perfectly viable way to obtain gear. also hunts were fun fuck you.
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>>338580141
Hunts were not fun because of the instancing issue coupled with people zerging them down 30s after spawning. Keep changing the subject though.
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>>338580206
oh i get it, you were one of those slow ass faggots that always expected people to wait for him. good show.
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>>338580141
Dungeons only dropped 160, with hunts you could upgrade your law.
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alexander was shit.

the story was ok but now we just gotta kill nidhogg which is kinda meh so far. warrior of darkness is pretty lame at the moment tbqh

relics 2.0 was retarded.

sephirot is enjoyable.

only cool thing is that vivi is now in the game.
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>>338580573
2 minutes long Hildi quests, not worth doing until they're finished.
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>that guy in your steam friend list still playing the game
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>>338580984
>I used to be that guy
Finally uninstalled since everytime I "quit" I'd resub like 2 weeks later. Having to deal with redownloading the whole thing is a good deterrent
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>>338579523
Yes
But right now I'm grinding out cross class skills before I start leveling a rogue and lancer is boring shit.
It literally relies on only two skills until almost lv30, what the hell were they thinking.
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>>338581293
Same.
Deleting the game is the only way to cure your addicting.
The first time I tried to quit I had to resub 2 weeks later, but after deleting it I don't feel like ever replaying it.
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>no armor like pic related
>but there sure as fuck are enemies and NPCs that get it
>only class that uses spears/polearms is pure jump faggotry with edgy as fuck macros

No.
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>>338579523
Sorry, I don't like shit games.
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>>338579703
t. XIV subreddit cuck with shit tastes who has never played MMOs
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>>338579523
just waiting for 3.3 now
quit raiding since the new year, maybe i'll mess around with it again using raid finder
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>>338582083
DRG is great you nig.
A shame about armor, but the closest thing is alagan neon faggotry.
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I have started to dislike it but I chalk that up mostly to my raid group being total garbage and spending way too long on progression.
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You know I ping pong back and forth. FFXIV a lot of this time has a lot of really neat ideas that never really pan out to what I think was meant or at least what was expected. A lot of people like to agree around that if some things maybe got thrown around a bit more in developement they wouldn't had issues like Hunts or Hunts: Dino Island Edition experience.

But then again these are the same people that are always hungry for content (not that we can blame them). We gotta remember in the development of HW Yoshida explicitly stated they wanted to try something new, more patches, new concepts just generally MORE stuff - but it doesn't always seem that way.

Classes while fun I think are starting to wear thin on some people (mostly savage PvE people I'm talking too although it varies) in the sense that outside of MNK it's too vanilla or at least it feels like it. I'm sure the phantoms of XI are still attached to many people of the concept of being able to really mix want you want, but this is what we're getting for a long time. If the game had more classes I don't think it would be a issue (a lot of dudes want sam, red mage or blue mage) but it seems they're reluctant to comment often steer away from new class discussions.

It's a alright game, fun most of the time but definitely has flaws.
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A piece of shit game that tricked me into playing it because I needed my XI itch scratched. I tried to accept it for what it was but even that made me realize how empty this garbage is. Dragon Quest X when square enix???
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>>338582705
>they wanted to do more stuff
>do literally the same shit except less often
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So is isghard housing coming with 3.3 or 3.35?

I know they're expanding and cheapening plots but I don't remember if it was mentioned directly about isghard housing and the preview didn't show any off.
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>>338582856
3.4 or 3.5, if not 4.0. All they said was after the Dragonsong ends, so like everything in this shit game you can expect it later than sooner.
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MUH WOWFUGGEE BOOGEYMAN BAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
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2.5 second global cooldown. I don't care if it gets better at level 40 if I slip into a coma before then.
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>>338579523
I got bored as sin at level 60. I really don't get how people keep playing this after max level.
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>>338583556
wow has trained people to accept and even "like" the gear grind
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>>338582129
Why do you have to call games that other people like shit, bro?
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>>338579523
No, I do not. It is not a good game, so I don't enjoy it.
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>>338583684
Why do you think the game you like is immune to people calling it shit just because other people like it, bro?
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>>338583556
There's a lot of grinding. It's pretty standard fare for an MMORPG. Endgame for MMORPGs is usually when players find out they don't enjoy the genre.

>>338583721
What makes it not a good game?
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>>338579523

Love the game but it wears on you at the end of the patch. They need to spend more time updating the things they have as they add more stuff every catch up patch and leave it.


>>338582981
3.4 as in 3.3 they are adding more housing zones.
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Yeah, my team saw Brute Justice Wings for the first time last weekend.

This tier isn't as fun as Gordias but still a lot better than first and last coil
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>>338583858
does it even matter? all the new housing will be snatched up by the same gil buying cunts
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>>338579523
I liked it. Later patches of ARR and now HW have taken it far away from what made it good to me. It needs help.
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>>338583838
It isn't immune. I am just curious as to why you would waste your time coming into a thread just to call a game shit. I guess you were answering the OP, but OK, that's your opinion.
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>>338583925

>isn't as fun as gordias

But Gordias sucked cock. The only even remotely fun fight was a3 but even that didn't have much mechanical complexity at all besides the triple tornado phase.
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>>338583990
Because I also play the game, and can call it shit and call you a shitter. Go back to the subreddit if you want a hugbox.
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>>338581293
>>338581970
no
I droped all my shit
ALL MY SHIT
before quiting

I wont be dealing with that shit again. I had a guhe backload and all what I did was getting it for my dailies and that's all.

Now I have time for all my games and drawing.
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>>338584078
The subreddit for this game is pretty garbage, is so is the /vg/ thread. /v/ is basically the only place left to discuss this game.

So you play games that you consider shit? I'm not following.
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>>338580141
No, you HAD to do hunts at launch, the only way to upgrade 170 tome gear to 180 was through items you could only buy with centurio seals. They didn't add the items to the tomes vendor until one of the Alexander patches.
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>>338584156
No, I'm just not a faggot corporate apologist who gets uppity every time someone calls a game I'm financially and emotionally invested shit, and can still keep playing that shit game because I still enjoy some aspect of it, despite the rest of the game being complete shit.
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>>338583840
I've played out games out max level. I just couldn't deal with ARR. Two fucking dungeons that unlock 2 more dungeons then unlocked 2 more dungeons. After you do each pair of dungeons the next pair makes the pair you were farming obsolete. I mean, people bitch about games like WoW only having 7 or whatever dungeons at max level, but ARR gets away with having 2 effectively? For fucks sake.

The leveling system for extra jobs is literally the most boring thing I've ever experienced. Either spam dungeons as a tank/healer and kick yourself in the balls as half your abilities become inaccessible each time, or do fucking leves. At least leveling new characters let you do different quests and shit to level and spice things up in other games.
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>Gather 10 of each item from tokens required for 210 anima
>Spend 5.5m gil on 4 of each HQ required
>Go to get items for anima
>Realize I need 20 of each item from tokens

>my fucking face when

Well I'm a damned fool for some reason thinking I just needed 10 of each. It will take me about a month to get 10 more. I wanted to have this shit by 3.3. Fuck my life. Does anyone know a faster way than Esoterics/Poetics to get this shit?
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>people find teleporting around zerging down a beast in an explosion of medicas and aoes "fun"

I'll bet you also thought fate grinding was fun.. bet you liked collecting those zodiac gems, huh.
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Question to FFXIV experts:

I'm lvl23 and just killed ifirt i believe. I don't really care much about MMO end game and just want to clear the story till the latest patch. FF stories were magically charming when i was kid/teen and i want to relive that. I heard the story in ARR is okay-ish, patches 2.1-2.5 are great, and Heavesward is "elder god tier amazing". How true is that? Also, how long would it take me (hours/days) to finally beat it?
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>>338584467
oh, the main story is pretty good you'll probably be well entertained until the end of it. I found there to be a few low points, such as the whole breaking garuda's barrier and doing boring side shit in coerthas.
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>>338584467
2.0-2.5 were amazing days full of people
3.0-xx was a mistake and the game is losing a ton of people
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>>338584609
The game was shit since 2.0 and it's the exact reason why 3.0 also turned out to shit. It was always obvious the game would end up stagnating because of how safe they were playing it, especially after they gutted the few redeemable 1.0 features that weren't complete WoW rehashes, and replaced them with badly implemented WoW concepts.

Sure playing it safe was arguably the best strategy after the 1.0 disaster, but it was obvious just how many corners they were cutting, how many 2.0 promises they were breaking and that nothing would ever change since the very first 2.0 alpha.
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>>338583840
>What makes it not a good game?
The same things that make World of Warcraft not a good game.

I'd honestly prefer to hate this game based on it's own 'merits' but it has none of it's own. It's a bad game because it wants to be a bad game. It is what it strives to be.
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>>338584923
I dropped ff 4.0 pretty early on. I just couldn't play it. Can you please explain what about it was good?
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>>338584923
Neither 2.0 or 3.0 were shit by any means.

>>338584609
It was new and fresh. Right now its succumbing to the drought of interest the entire genre is going through. The game is still humongous in Japan.
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>>338585178
World of Warcraft was a great game, and to some extent it still is. Warlords turned a lot of veterans away from it, though. I think you probably just don't enjoy MMORPGs as a whole.
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>>338582083
>with edgy as fuck macros

wat. Maybe you use macros, but I know that most people think they're just annoying.

I do agree with you that I wish they were more focused on actually using the spear in a traditional way. I'd actually rather be just a lancer than a dragoon.
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>>338584923
I can't trust the opinions of someone that has to compare everything to WoW and everything related to WoW ALWAYS =Bad. I mean its such an obvious sign of a retard contrarian.
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>>338584124
>have 17 million Gil
>friend that still plays tells me the FC I was in with them is like 10 million short of being able to buy a mansion
>mfw I could have funded it myself
Fuck 'em, they were never on and when they were they always stayed in their little clique. I really should work on my backlog now that I have alot more free time but I keep just coming back to DaS3 and Xcom 2.
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>not stocking up on dragon maps
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>>338585709
>Salty because nobody wanted to be friends with him
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>>338579523
red scripts and alex savage patch ruined it
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3.0 is the exact same as 2.0

I already played 2.0

So no, I don't like XIV anymore. Trying to find an MMO to partially fill the void in my heart left by XI
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>>338585184
The promise of 2.0 not being a generic halfassed WoW clone, until it turned into one. They took out unique gear with unique abilities and the game had more variety of meaningful endgame content than just the single relevant 4 raid bosses and the primal of the patch.

While it wasn't much, it had Hamlet which also included crafters and gatherers, Beast camps that were a form of smaller scale open world dungeons and not just irrelevant areas with some irrelevant FATEs in them, and Skirmish which was a challenging enough 8 man mini NM rush, all which dropped relevant gear. Meanwhile other meaningful types of content didn't happen until HW with Diadem and it was a complete flop.

The maps got more unique in 2.0 but also more linear and much smaller with nothing to explore in them, at least 1.0 had shitty copypasted caves and mini dungeons you could walk to and hard mobs you could run into. They also added shit weekly lockouts for content with the best gear, while 1.0 only had a 15 min. lockout between runs.

>>338585687
No, WoW =/= bad, but WoW clones are always shit, no exceptions.
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>>338585774
Speaking of dragon maps. How are you going to deal with rolling on loot in the new map dungeon thingies? Normally I do it the way where only the owner of the map gets to roll on the stuff, but for the dungeon thingy the other people are also doing some work, it'd feel kind of shitty to make them kill shit for you multiple times only for them to not get anything out of it.
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>like the dragoon class
>it became the huntard class of wow
>have to go balls to the wall every dungeon or raid otherwise people shit all over me
>win an item
>raid goes fucking ape "oh wow of course the fucking dragoon wins"
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>>338585959
Things that never happen?

I main DRG, and I only sometimes get a loldrg from my fc mates when I jump at shitty times and get rekt. Or a "loldrg tanking the floor as usual" in a joking way.
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>>338585959
I only go 'oh wow' if you've spent the majority of the raid floor tanking.
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>>338584338

Maps and Beast tribes.
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>>338586059
maybe it's just my server then. hardly ever die, I get usually #2 on the dps charts. I do have some issue managing blood of the dragon on some fights though.
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>>338585820
I moved to Tonberry and joined that FC since mpat everyone from my old FC moved from Aegis. Turns out it was a mistake since most of them quit shortly after. Stuck around because of the few that stayed but finally got sick of doing the same shit since 2.X.
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3.3 sure is building up to be a huge disappointment. I can feel it.
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>>338586250
nidhogg fight will be shit

no new triad fight

no hildibrand

moogle daily quests (just fucking kill me now btw)
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>>338586198
Maybe it also depends on what content you do. I've only beaten A1S and A2s and never ventured beyond that. Haven't even done Thordan or Sephi EX.
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>>338586327
I was ok with beast tribe quests.

Beast tribe crafting quests can go fuck itsself with a shart stick.
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>>338586250
It does have their best writer on the job.
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>>338586439
they're bringing back meme moogles. they can suck my dick.
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>>338586439
>Live letter
>Here she is, the main writer for the main scenrio for 3.2
>No, I actually wasnt the main writer for 3.2 at all it was Oda

They lied.
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>>338586250
3.1 all over again
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>>338579523
>tfw got a 1 week ban for doing this in CT and lost all interest in the game
>its been a year
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>>338586250
>rehashed Nidhogg fight
>rehashed dungeon using Churning Mists assets with a rehashed Moogle fight, on top of the usual HM dungeon rehash
>the access to the first of only two promising pieces of content is entirely random and limited to once per day per party member, unless you buy more maps like a good goy
>the second promising content won't come out until almost 2 months later
>some shitty PvP mode, no one gives a shit and will invalidate The Feast, like every new PvP mode invalidates the previous one
>shitty 24 man, who gives a shit
>QoL shit that should have been added day one

It's shit.
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>>338586669
god you probably had this shit bound to one ilm punch or something
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I should add, the ability to make one character do everything is nice, but the cripplingly tiny amount of retainer space makes it completely moot.
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>>338586715
I played Bard, actually. I'd just push my macro every so often, and I'd still be doing top DPS while goofing around.

I got so many shitters mad as fuck.
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>fewer Gold Saucer updates because of a shitty seasonal event

Hope you weren't still looking forward to big features we've been hyping for years, like snowboarding.
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>XIV will never be this cozy again
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I tried it.
I don't think it's very beginner friendly and I can never make out if other players can read what i am writing
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>>338586798
he got his promotion. he's done with this fucking game now.
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What to do when your FC is dead during content drought
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>>338586798
>Spend a lot of time on Vermillion
>Nobody plays it from day one and everyone shits on it

Can you blame him for not wanting spend any more time on GS?
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>>338586798
It would be shit anyways
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>>338586941
play a better game
come back when there's stuff to do (so in 6 months or so)
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>>338586941
Take a break untill the new patch comes out

Some of the people in my FC feel forced to log in every day for some reason only to complain that they're bored. They see taking a break as something shameful.

I find that after taking a break for a few weeks that after I come back I feel refreshed and have a lot more fun.
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>Want to play Mechanist
>You have to beat the entire vanilla game to play them

Fuck that.
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>>338587086
You don't want to play it anyway. Trust me.
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>>338587086
Please understand. It's for the good of the game.
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I was very fond of the "fun" stuff they added like triple triad, gold saucer, and hildebrand. Decorating a player house was my main motivator for playing but when player housing was >100M gil for the biggest houses AND all the plots are already claimed, I stopped having fun.
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I'm honestly considering playing Legion now that we've seen how contentless 3.3 will be.
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>>338579742

I saw that this was japan only and it made me quit till they implement it in the US. Glamour is the best part of this game and the only reason to play
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>>338579523
i really like the atmosphere and world of the game. its super fucking comfy and the soundtrack is fantastic too. it has a pretty good community and does a lot of smart things for an mmo and has great polish, but these days MMO gameplay just bores the fuck out of me and i just can't justify sinking hundreds of hours into something i only very moderately enjoy when i could spend that time playing a thousand other games i'd enjoy way more
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>>338587086
>grind to 50
>now gotta play the same 4 dungeons 100 times @ 25 min a pop to get to 60
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>>338586250
Why? I'm pretty hyped for it. We're getting new 24-man raid, Aquapolis, 2 new dungeons, new trial, new Beast tribe, new MSQ, new Warring Triad quests and new Anime weapon quests.

Then again, from what i'm reading in this thread people are just generally salty that we're not getting another hardcore raid. I don't get these people who literally only play for ultra-endgame hardcore raids, i bet they even skip all cutscenes. Why do you even bother to play at that point?
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>>338587196

legion is just garrison 2.0 + ffxiv's relic quest
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>>338587317
>Why do people want content that will last longer than a week?
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>>338587293
Leveling new classes is absolutely ridiculous. I can't believe they haven't done something to make it less tedious but they somehow haven't yet.
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>>338587317
>m-m-m-m-muh hardcore players boogeyman

If a major gear patch and raid cycle still lost the game 150k players, a shitty catch up patch will lose even more, just like 3.1 did.
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>>338587196

Posts like this just have to be made by complete idiots or shitposters. Patches in this game have followed the exact same pattern since the start yet people act all fucking surprised when content that typically gets released is then released along with some other dumb bullshit nobody will care about a short time after patch day.

If you honestly ever expected for Yoshi and SE to get off their ass and do a huge overhaul in their design then I just don't know what to think. Maybe they are actually new and joined recently and aren't aware? Or maybe they're just gullible morons for thinking that anything would ever change for the better.
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>>338587317

we're also getting palace of the dead in 3.35, which i guess is two weeks after 3.3 drops
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>>338587451
>posting charts in MOON and expecting people to take them seriously
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>>338579523
Unsubbed a few months ago and don't miss it in the slightest.
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>>338587561

Try a month and half to two months.
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>>338587410
>>338587451
I'm perfectly happy subscribing to play for 1 week and see the story progressing, and this is coming from someone who lives in a shit country so i have to overpay for subscriptions. I guess that makes me retarded.
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>>338587079
My FC leader is a single mom in her 40s with 3 children that hasn't taken a major break since I started playing two years ago. I doubt she did even before that.

For some people XIV is just part of their life, even if all they do is complain about it .
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>>338587608
>posting in a japanese lead japanese imageboard without knowing moon
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I'll probably resub just before 4.0 to do the story in one go.

Not that I think 4.0 will be any better but I can dream
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>>338587646
my friend

did u know u can by specific amounts of crysta now. it helps. they never announced it but it's an option on mog station
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>>338587737
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>>338587751
have they announced what the next area is going to be?

also I just did the story.. we're not getting minfilia back are we
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>>338579523
I played FFXI during CoP and ToAU so no, I don't like WoW: FF Edition.
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>>338587820
All signs are pointing torwards Ala Mhigo to join up with Yda and Papalymo.
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>>338586847
>Alph was so proud of himself he got the wood all by himself
>So he thought
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>>338587646
It does when you can just wait for the welcome back campaign or just sub right before the new expansion and still experience the story and content while it's relevant and before the expansion invalidates it.
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>>338587727
Everyone has a hobby. For some people its an MMO of choice.
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>grinding for anima weapon
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>>338587797
>not fuck (You)
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>>338587964
Honestly, having to bulldoze through the HOURS and HOURS of mandatory level 50 quests before I was allowed to touch HW content drove me nuts.
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>>338588002
>stat bonuses will be RNG
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>>338588030
Nice one, but that image is pretty old.
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>>338587917
>faggot elf trying to steal my waifu
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>>338588002

>mfw i'm doing another because i have literally nothing else to do aside from the typical daily/weekly lockouts
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>>338579523
I did, but when Heavensward came out and they had the gall to copypasta the progression/quests of 2.x and do stupid shit like make crafting a complete clusterfuck, I said fuck that shit and bailed. They're going to have to take it a lot more seriously and reintroduce complexity before I'll consider giving it another try.
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>>338588117
>tfw always someone who can't make raid days so there's no reason to log in this week
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>>338588191
>reintroduce complexity

Was there ever such a thing in XIV?
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>>338588049
You can easily get those done during each of the free login campaigns, then sub for a month and get everything else out of the way for only $10-$13, instead of waiting months and paying for no content meanwhile.
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you guys talk to npc's right? not just the quest giving ones?
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>>338588051
>need to get between 76 and 46 stat things

>that guy who'll get +5 on every single one that retard mentor in your fc who's shit at everything but thinks he's good
>that guy who'll get just 3 on every single one (You)
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>>338588461
Fuck
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>>338588390
I don't pay anyway. I'm just saying waiting for a new expac then doing ALL the story content can be a real fucking chore.
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>>338588051
>But Yoshi says they will be equal to the i240 weapon with 3 materia V !!!!!
>ooh an i240 drg weapon with 3 spell speed V's
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>>338588461
so that's how I kill myself. I finally get it now.
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>>338588446
I know people are all salty about how nobody ever dies but i really hope that Estinien survives this patch. He's just such a cool ass dude, and since DRG was my first and only class i got to 50 i've liked him since before Heavensward.
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When we saving Ala Mhigo
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>>338588613
Estinien was cool once he stopped being a dick. I don't know that we'll be saving him though, with all the talk about having to be committed as the enemy is, and sacrifices, etc., as we heard from Matoya.
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>>338588693
4.0
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>>338588613
Estinien is bro.
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>>338588693
Next expac pretty much for sure.
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>>338588693
>Y'da is getting blacked right now
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>>338588693
>mountain mexicans
{No thanks}
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>>338588693
>you'll be executing this guy next expac

feels good man
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>>338588861
ALA'D
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>>338588748
Yeah but Alphinaud's bullshit "you know what despite what literally everyone told me i think we should save Estinien" gvies me hope
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>>338588861
I think you mean BEASTED
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>>338588921
>He's so shit he's probably not even a dungeon boss.
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>>338588979
Oh wait, I'm retarded. Skimming posts and saw Y' and immediately thought Y'shtola.
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I tried the trial and only lasted a few hours. I hate the leveling process... the content all feels meaningless, and all I'm doing is going from glimmering object to glimmering object. I'm not putting up with 50 or 60 levels of that just to get to the actual game.

I like the game I'm playing. I can actually enjoy the low level content and go at my own pace. I've been in the 30-40 range for the past couple weeks and I'm fine with it, because there's enough challenge, exploration, and other players doing the same. Not just painstakingly going through the motions to get to max level so there's something to do.
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good enough for me to keep subbing, but i'd be lying if i said i was satisfied with where the game is at
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>>338588979
>Liking Y'shtola

It's like liking a blank piece of paper. She's so boring and characterless.
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>>338589140
Literally every character in xiv.
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>>338589090
Which game are you playing?
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WHAT
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>>338589237
I totally agree, but for some reason people have a huge boner over Y'shtola. Probably all the faggots that play Mi'qote.
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>>338589268
Battleborn. It's great, you should check it out.
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>>338589140
Don't talk SHIT about my waifu.
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>>338589330
how could they, when we have this goddess?
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>>338589313
That's not rare at all, especially on a game that keeps dropping subs hard, and at this hour.
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>>338589421
why are her thighs so canon thicc
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>>338589421
Dat Elezen on the right
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>>338589391
Sure thing Randy.
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>>338589268
Project Gorgon

it's by a couple old Asheron's Call devs, apparently a "dream game" of theirs

I love how whenever my character feels stuck I can just set out and explore the world and I'll end up finding something to help me progress. It's retro af tho and not for everyone. Community is nice.
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>>338589441
Game is actually pretty booming with players even during this content drought.
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>>338589502
Yeah man, idk, she JUST got her shit fucked up.
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>>338589558
Not really, it lost 150k players since 3.2 and only keeps losing more. We get it, you're in one of the 7 populated servers out of the 60 total, still doesn't mean anything.
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>>338589698
>150k players
Sauce?

And I get it. You're a Blizzard shill spewing bullshit as normal. Be glad I'm labeling you as a shill, because at least you have a reason to shitpost about this game. If you weren't a shill getting paid, heaven help you for wasting precious minutes of your life shitposting about a game you don't like.
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this is escalating quickly
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>>338588748

As long as Minfilia stays a hand puppet for Hydaelyn I'm fine with any developments.
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>>338589928
It's reaching a level where we might not be able to contain it.
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>>338589813
>MUH BLIZZDRONE BOOGEYMAN

We get it, you're a weebshit contrarian who thinks everyone is out to get your precious WoW clone.

Source is Lucky Bancho which you'll dismiss anyway. There's no official SE source because they're cowards who refuse to give sub numbers because they know their game is performing like shit sub wise in every region.
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>>338589420
She's only good for breeding
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>>338584338
damn when did you buy your HQ crafted items? or is it just your server's prices are spiked like that.

i got all 16 of mine for around 2mil
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is it time to resub
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>>338586327
moogle CRAFTING daily quests even
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>>338590179
No.
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>>338590179
It's time to choose.
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>>338590029
Why contain it?
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>>338590050
>no official source
>no accurate way of tracking subs
Well then you don't have a source, now do you?

There's also no real point in releasing sub numbers. They've never done it for any of their games.

Blizzard frequently released sub numbers but neglected to tell anyone how inflated and inaccurate they were given how they calculated Asian "subs", which doesn't use the same sub model as the west.
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>>338590254

I liked the Ixal quests.
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>>338590395
yeah but these are moogles. you gotta make deductions for that
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>>338590131
A few days ago. I watched those numbers for two weeks and they all stayed between 1-1.4m. I bought them on the lower end. I had no choice since I don't know any crafters capable of HQing them.

>>338590254
It's about time they do more with crafting.
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>>338590462
i tried doing the ALC HQ myself, but i learned fast that unless you have highend or close to the highend crafting gear, its basically an RNG crapshoot to HQ them
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>>338590254
>Crafting
>Not Gathering

Fuck you Yoshi
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I just resubbed. What are some comfy areas to visit in FFXIV?
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>>338590615
the ixal dailies had both crafting and gathering. so probably will be the same here
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>>338579523
I loved it.
HW basically killed that love.

>>338579793
WoD is single handedly the worst expansion for any MMO, but I'm playing it currently because I got the free trial. I forgot how much freedom WoW let you have (to an extent). I'm kinda surprised that Yoshida's goonsquad somehow surpassed Blizzard in terms of shitting out time gated time gates. God damned near everything in HW is restricted in some form or another.
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>3.3 upcoming
>new expansion in sight, probably gonna be announced at E3
>DRG still hasn't the Lancet ability (and no, don't tell me Life Surge counts)

I'm still not losing hope, but damn.

>>338590635
Mostly parts of the Black Shroud to me, but generally any of the 3 major cities qualifies.
Also, Costa del Sol.
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>>338590635
gold saucer's fun to chill at.

gridania has the best housing.
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>>338590894
>Lavender Beds
>Not having a beach house in the Mist

Lavender Beds shits all over the Goblet (shit tier housing for poverty people) but maaan the Mist is ultimate comfort.
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>>338590894
I want to fug that roe____
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I liked it up until HW's end game. Amazing how the game stops feeling like a Final Fantasy title so fast.
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>>338591137
she's a qt and a mt
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>>338580984
>that guy that is on it 24/7
>ask if he wants to play something else
>goes back to FFXIV 20 minutes later
>all he does is idle apparently
>buys other games on steam but never touches them
XIV players are weird.
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>>338591124
>tfw you're one of the 3 people on earth who like the Goblet
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>>338591375
there's only one reason to live in the goblet
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>>338584156
>The subreddit for this game is pretty garbage,
Checked it out last week it's literally
>LOOK AT THIS FUNNY THING I FOUND
>DURR I NEVER PLAYED ANOTHER FF BEFORE WHY IS THERE SO MUCH STORY?
>LOOK AT THIS MEME!

Almost reptetive as /v/ FFXIV threads and I refuse to go on their official forums.
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>>338591124
Ul'dah and Thanalan are just fucking trash in general. except for the Sultana who is cute
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>>338587326
Look I'll shit on WoW as much as the next guy, but not really. Class Halls aren't like Garrisons. They just have the stupid follower mission (Retainer Venture) shit.

Legion is more Diablo 3 + Relic, since the content is all 'scales to your level up to X' and is basically 'fight and kill and farm mobs in the overworld for rare drops and daily bounty quests'. So basically still a joke. But at least you can buy game time with fucking in game currency unlike XIV, where gil is literally U S E L E S S.
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>HEY LOOK WE'RE BRINGING BACK COOL BOSSES FROM FF6
>But first, let's interrupt it with a rematch against a Nidwhogg
You can't be fucking serious
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>>338591439
Thought you were going for a Muslim joke here for a second. That would have been way funnier.
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Quick question: which is the best way to farm fieldcraft demimateria? Just make a bunch of craft/gather gear and desynth it? Which level must be the item to drop it?
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>>338591375
I like the goblet because I like desert/oasis aesthetics.

>>338591439
>See this
>Get angry because the Ul'dah storyline got fucking rushed and handled retardedly.

FUCK this shit.
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>>338591439
I don't care about potato slut.

My allegiance is to Raubahn only.
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>>338591535
You're probably that guy asking for them to add the buster sword or Sephiroth every week.

The game needs it's own shit too instead of just constantly feeding off fanservice.
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>>338591260
It's a shame there's so little fanart of them. The size difference is great.
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>>338591702
This game has always been fan service from the start. which is all done in vain since FF fans ignore the MMO's
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>>338590635
Western side of of upper la noscea
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>>338591663
Don't think Raubahn would be very happy with your allegiance.
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>>338591816
The song that plays when you step out of Camp Bronze Lake is great, shame it's so short.
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>>338591639
they dropped the ball on the whole thing. nothing ever happens of consequence. raubaun loses his arm but can still go beast mode. no real consequence to the scions being split up except now you have to play hide-n-seek.

they kinda did the same thing with the whole dragonsong war too. civil unrest in ishgard for like 2 quests. 1 instanced area of rescuing a hostage.

even hildibrand had more continuity and impact
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>>338591702
>The game needs it's own shit too instead of just constantly feeding off fanservice.
You're absolutely right, but it just so happens that they end up doing fanservice much better than original content.
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literally impossible!
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>>338591850
>Can't have a portrait of him only
>Has to have the sultana in it

ruined
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>>338591870
So many good field songs are short
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>>338591337
I've never seen my fc leader leave the area in front of the fc house
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>>338591941
remove drk bring pld

there u go senpai
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>>338591375

The goblet is cozy as fuck.

There are way too many people running around the in the other two. Of course the beach resort is going to be packed. And the quaint little forest is going to be full.

The goblet is like a mountain getaway, up in the canyons, above the fray. Looking out at the vast vistas, seeing the birds glide overhead. Its peaceful. It feels like a home should.
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>>338591941
I've caught a fish this big!
I don't know what they were thinking, the difficulty slope from 5-7 to 8 is more like a difficulty catapult.
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>>338592027
>My FC leader is just the person that says hello when you log in
>Never does anything with FC members
>Pretty much always gets ignored

Life is hard for FC leader
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>>338592098
There's too much sand.
It's coarse and it gets everywhere.
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3.3 is lackluster.
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>>338592228
<se.2> hello I'll be your healer today!!!
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>>338592027
When I used to be on Gilgamesh there was this one guy in Odin gear on Odin's horse who was always in the same spot near the EX primal girls, never moved, never said anything, was always there right after maintenance, never logged off.

It's pretty spooky.
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>>338592202
3.x is lackluster.
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>>338592093
but why? Delirium and Reprisal are good enough reasons to stay with DRK. I'd rather switch to monk later, seems more reasonable. We will kill it before this happens anyway
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>>338592425
>Al Bhed
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>>338592425
>Check search profile
>Its over 9000!
Old meme is old.
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Had the weirdest experience yet in this game so far a few days ago.

>Someone advertising a maid cafe in PF
>Am really curious
>Ask some FC people to come with me because I'm scared to go alone
>Some house in the Goblet with a dude standing in front of it
>Asks what lanauge you speak and how many people your party is
>Get shown to the basement which is almost already entirely full of people and get seated
>5 or so catslut maids
>Get asked if you want tea or muffins which you have to pay 500 gil for
>Hardcore weebs weebing it up shouting stuff like "Can I see your pantsu. X-chan?"
>Just sit there for like 30 minutes in astonishment laughing my ass off

It was hard to believe actual people set this up and were hardcore pretending to be maids.
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>>338590179
You can skip the next patch altogether. Come back in 3.4
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>>338592228
>catfag attempting to steal my roman look

HERETIC
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>>338586956
I probably single handedly ruined it for everyone on my server since I have extensive rts experience and console players are free wins to boots.

Had to farm those 100 wins for that qt as fuck 'princess of verminion' title.
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>>338588461
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>>338592852
>princess of verminion

Why would you want that? Might aswell say princess of shit.
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>>338592523
3.x killed crafting/gathering for me.
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>People still can't do Moggle Mog Normal.

Had to do the entire second half of the fight with just my DRG and 2 other DPS because both healers, tanks and the other DRG somehow all managed to die in the opening salvo.
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Do any of you guys like fishing? I always try to recommend fishing to people that say they're bored and have nothing to do but I just get laughed at.
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>>338593062
fishing is comfy as fuck
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