What went wrong?
JRPGs are getting less popular. DQ is still popular in the East because people have nostalgia for the series. They don't have that here.
They tried to shove a bunch of remakes nobody asked for and then abandoned the property.
westerners dont like level grinding. Also shit loacalization ith awful text accents that make dialogue harder to read
>>338522435
the remakes were great
and 9 sold very well in the west
the fucking commericals for that game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrjU4WZeaSk
>>338522435
The DS remakes?
I'm sure there were people who wanted to play an official version of DQ5 and 6 in English.
>>338521890
The few games that got marketing sold over a million copies. The rest of the series didn't get marketing, but still sold marginally well. Basically, Dragon Quest can't be compared to something like Final Fantasy or Pokemon, which saw the largest ongoing marketing campaigns in video game history. Plus, we would often go 3-6 years with no Dragon Quest game released in the west. While Final Fantasy gets 10-20 games released a year. The spin off FF games effectively keep the hype for the series going. Dragon Quest spin offs hardly get released here.
In short, it all has to do with inconsistent releases and a lack of marketing. But even with this, Dragon Quest is still one of the top selling JRPG series in the west. Compare Dragon Quest sales to something like Tales, NI games, SMT, Mana or whatever and they still sell more. That is, when a DQ game actually gets fucking released.
>>338521890
Nintendo
>>338524527
Nintendo has been the only one actually trying to get Dragon Quest popular in the west. They have published half the games that came here, when SquareEnix didn't want to. Including the next two games.
>>338525010
And? Nintendo ruined 4-6 and 9 with their awful translations, and censorship. DQ11 being on PS4 is a gift from god. The 7 and 8 remakes will be butchered to hell, mark my words.
Marketing.
>>338525391
>Nintendo ruined 4-6 and 9 with their awful translations, and censorship.
Plus Alpha and 8-4 localized those games, with the supervision of SquareEnix. Nintendo covered the cost of publishing, distribution and marketing, but had nothing to do with the localization.
Stop blaming Nintendo for every act of bad localization. Which can also be found on SquareEnix PS3 and PS4 games.
>>338525391
>censorship
Like what?
And while the accents can be annoying I'll take them over no DQ at all, since if it was for Squeenix themselves we would have got nothing.
>>338525391
>censorship
Fucking Fire Emblem idiots, I swear.
>>338526001
Is the english version of DQVI as terrible as the italian one?
I'm playing it right now, and on top of the stupid accents it's filled with Star Wars and LotR references.
>>338521890
It was showing growth, but they stopped making what westerners would have wanted.
DQ9 is handheld, non-traditional and disappointing.
DQ10 is an MMO, originally developed for the Wii and never localized.
DQ8 was the last 'real' DQ and DQ11 looks like the next one and it will probably be 2018 before we get to play it. That will be 13 years. 13 years is what went wrong.
The stupid accents are the best part, I love them.
I've been playing Dragon Quest 5 DS and I'm kinda sad they aren't as emphasized as 4's.
>>338526493
All the English versions have bad accents, cheesy pun name changes and pop culture references. The accents lessened over each game, but never totally went away. The name changes and pop culture references got worse.
>>338526703
>DQ8 was the last 'real' DQ
What an idiotic thing to say.
Everything.
>>338526703
DQIX sold nearly as much as Dragon Quest VIII on PS2. Being on a handheld didn't hurt it at all.
And are you seriously implying the west doesn't like MMOs? Dragon Quest X could have done even better than FFXIV, since it wasn't just a clone of WoW.
>>338521890
Took them ages to bring over the first game.
>>338525391
I really enjoy the localization though. It gives the DQ a unique feel to it coupled with the already great world and monsters. Its piss easy to read if you aren't an illiterate child.
>>338526946
In the eyes of the western market? I stick by it.
>>338525391
>removed a vague mention of boobs grapping
>IT'S ALL RUINED!!!
>>338526771
I didn't notice pop culture references in IV, V and IX, that's why I was so surprised when VI had one every 4 minutes.
It was too late
When it arrived in the west, turn-based was consider old fashioned
>>338527191
Many of the name changes in DQIV and V are pop culture references. And of course, you have the Zenithian Dragon in DQV talking like Ned Flanders.
DQIX had the most pop culture references however. And probably the worst accents.
I fucking despise the notion that a series having main installments on a handheld makes it not a true follow up. Dragon Quest IX like say Shin Megami Tense IV were great games that are immediately shat on by retards for being a handheld.
![I8QlqUVh[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/kyiNDyu.jpg "I8QlqUVh[1].jpg")
>you bought DQ Swords
>>338527425
>people throwing a bitch fest that FFVII:R and FFXV aren't turn based
>DQXI is going to be turn based
Its an opportunity for Dragon Quest to stand out when almost all other JRPGs are trying to go the ARPG route.
>>338527512
Good for you. I really liked that game. I wish it had a follow up. Fleurette is the best DQ female.
>>338527487
Its just one idiot who says that in every DQ thread. Dragon Quest has seen success on handhelds since 2001. Call him an idiot and then ignore him.
>>338527617
I like turn based rpgs and actually miss them but let's face it, it's consider a niche nowadays in the west.
I'm going to replay(never finished) DQ8 with cheats to skip all of the battles because the combat is Shit Tier.
How does this make you feel?
>>338527436
Maybe the english versions got it worse then.
The only characters with accents in our version of IX were Rocko, the kidnappers of the doll and maybe a couple of teachers in the academy.
>>338527660
When Skyward Sword came out, I realized that the Wii Motion Plus would have been perfect for a DQ Swords sequel. So sad it won't happen.
How's DQ Heroes? I'm thinking about getting 2 since it has multiplayer.
>>338527868
>>338527868
I don't care.
>>338527487
Western audience doesn't care about handhelds like the Japanese audience does. The thread title is about the west.
>>338527863
Turn based RPGs have always been considered niche. Nothing changed, with turn based RPGs or JRPGs as a whole. Outside of Final Fantasy or Pokemon, JRPGs have always been a niche demographic.
And these days, Final Fantasy is starting to falter, despite trying to be more western.
>>338527883
Oh and the gladiator spoke in faux latin, that was neat.
>>338527436
I'm currently playing IX and I'm not seeing any of those references
But perhaps it could be thatI'm playing in french
>>338528025
Interesting graphics, shallow and boring combat, mildly entertaining cutscenes.
It's like one of those animes you just watch and isn't very special.
Unless the combat is immensely improved, multiplayer won't make the game better in my opinion.
>>338527868
Why should I care about your life?
>>338528251
Are you emulating it?
>>338527883
>>338528375
I've heard from some people that the versions outside of English were better. Maybe that's why DQ has done better in Europe than America since the DS era.
And yet another reason SquareEnix is stupid to ignore DQ. They have a series which is actually gaining ground in Europe, but they just dropped it. DQ could have been their big European series.
>>338527436
Same position that >>338528251
Only that I'm playing DQIX in spanish
Is it just me or this japanese exclusive special edition is literally a 10/10?
It's even better now with that sweet O3DS charm.
>>338521890
They havent released many games. Thankfully thats about to change.
>>338528608
Nope
>>338528375
Dude DQH2 is more like an open world action RPG.
It's open world, has actual quests, it's not instanced, and has online multiplayer, plus characters can switch weapons now.
It's a HUGE improvment, even for someone like me who considers DQH to be a fun tight 8/10 game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zlfnho8vgRw
deploying thread theme song
>>338528971
How do you plan to deal with the Wi-Fi locked content?
I ask because I just finished the main story and have no idea what to do.
It never got as much advertising as other games. Final Fantasy 7 had a marketing budget of 100 million dollars. Dragon Quest has never had anything close to that.
>>338529097
>even for someone like me who considers DQH to be a fun tight 8/10 game.
That just means you have shit taste dude.
It's still made by omega force, it's probably shit.
>>338521890
random encounters you are way too strong for
>>338529297
I'm sorry you hate fun.
DQH is pure and simple fun.
>>338527868
As someone who owns an Action Replay for PS2, a word of advice
Don't set the experience rate too high, the game will recognise you're cheating and you'll stop getting stat increases and new skills when you level up.
>>338527487
The greatness of any game on a handheld is restricted by it being on a handheld.
If DQ9 were not on a handheld, it would be a better game.
Anyone here play the 3ds version of VII? I'm sick of waiting for english release but hear it's much better then the ps1 release. Never played it before.
Also this is bothering me, is the main protagonist canonically named Arus?
>>338529409
It's an average and simple game with long cutscenes.
>dragon ball game is seller than the dragon quest in the west
kek
>>338529482
The greatness of any game on a console is restricted by it being on a console.
If DQ11 were on a PC, it would be a better game.
>>338529596
okay senpai
Spamming rain of pain with Bianca or beating shit up with Yancus is satisfactory as fuck.
>>338529208
fuuuuck
I genuinely didn't know about this feature but I guess it is the same that happened to FE Shadow Dragon
Guess it can't be helped
>>338529208
>>338529840
I was playing DQIX when it came out, was and still am a big fan, but I was busy doing other shit at the time so I never got to finish the game and actually make use of the wifi so now i'm fucked because I didn't realise at the time :(
>>338529741
And that's why PC exclusives are always shit tier graphics games made to run on a toaster with WoW and Overwatch artstyle.
If anything, games look the way they do now thanks to consoles, PC catters to toasters, i'm so sorry for you.
>>338530017
>>338529208
So what exactly we had on it? Special items I guess?
>>338530037
what the fuck are you talking about
>>338529840
It's worse than you think.
We're talking about 80 sidequests, some of which story related with cutscenes and everything, various optional bosses, cameos from old games and a shitload of unique equipments.
>>338529840
>>338530017
There's still ways to unlock the Wi-Fi quests
You can either
>Link your game with another one that has all of the quests unlocked
or
>Buy a flash cart or an Action Replay cart that's able to transfer saves and use a save editor to unlock the quests
>>338530214
Games only have good graphics if they are multiplats.
PC exclusives ALWAYS look like shit barring 1 or 2 exceptions every 5 years.
I'm sorry bro, majority of PC users still have ps2/ps3 levels of PC, this is why almost every PC game has stylized art style.
Consoles push graphics forward, PC devs try to sell their games to users with 2004 PCs.
>>338521890
The problems started back when Enix was still a separate company and making games for SNES. Instead of translating and bringing over Dragon Quest V or VI or the SNES remakes, they pushed garbage games like Paladin's Quest and The 7th Saga. Back then JRPG's didn't have much of an audience outside of Japan, so once you hit about 5 or 6 years out from a Dragon Quest game here in the U.S. they simply lost what momentum they had.
Also, the original translations for the U.S. Dragon Warrior games was top tier. I might be the only person in the world that liked it, but it brought a consistency to the series. I also liked that it pulled me deeper into the game and made it feel like a fairy tale.
>>338530568
I hated the translation back in the day. But compared to the accents and masive changes we got from the PS2 and on, the original faux Olde English would be welcome now. Though it still wouldn't be accurate to what Yuji Horii wrote.
>>338528375
>animes
>>338521890
putting them on shitty meme nintendo consoles
I'd totally buy a new main DQ if it's on PC
>>338530879
Didn't Dragon Warrior 3 and 4 get rid of the Olde English?
>>338529493
Anyone?
>>338531062
They pretty much got rid of it with the second game on NES. By the time of the PS1/Game Boy Color, it was gone completely. No idea why SquareEnix brought it back for the PS2. Then went fucking crazy with accents in all their games shortly thereafter.
>>338530912
>>338521890
They dwindled their thumbs releasing the original series back in
>After nothing for almost half a decade they pop out 8 with some ultra thick accent driven story trying mask how straightforward of RPG it is believing US would hate it.
>8 does well so naturally they ramp up the accents in 4 but it's basically illegible
>every game since has soften the accents but still very much remain
>after 9 sold 1 million, SE just seem to not care to follow it up so it falls into limbo
>the next game localized is heroes, a fan service musou game on ps3 and PS4 (eventually PC), which only PS4 and PC got releases for.
>The next games announced are years after the fact 7 3ds and 8 3ds, which apparently both need re-writes.
this franchise is like a go to example for how to botch a localization via lack of striking while the iron is hot
>>338531062
3 had it. Well only a very tiny bit of it.
4 didn't have it at all.
>>338531057
why are pcbros always so salty about exclusives?
>>338521890
Dragon Quest 8 was a well received traditional RPG on a platform everyone owned
Since then they haven't actually released a game of that type, it's all handheld titles and fucking mmos
>>338531758
because nintendo is a garbage publisher based entirely around exclusives and their shitty inferior hardware
I wouldn't even mind if it were sony/microsoft exclusive with a PC port later, but putting it on a stupid nintendo handheld is a waste of resources
>>338531595
That and just not caring about a series that isn't Final Fantasy. The way Dragon Quest is treated now is basically how series like Mana, SaGa or whatever were treated back on the SNES/PS1. They release one game years late, with no marketing, then wonder why it didn't sell 4 million like the latest FF game. Then throw up their hands and claim the series isn't popular.
Problem is, one FF game might sell 4-8 million. But if they had released the 20 other games they overlooked, and each one sold 500k, they would have made far more money.
>>338529493
>>338531414
7 but streamlined some and faster everything compared to PSX. I haven't beaten enough to see the new content added but if you liked the original expect to enjoy more.
No, that was just his default name. In Japanese I'm pretty sure the default name is literally "protagonist".
When the hell are the 3DS games coming out?
I keep being reminded about it every other month, but whenever I check stores the fucking game is nowhere to be seen, FUCK.
>>338531914
Look on the bright side, anon
At least we might be getting Dragon Quest 11
They aren't popular at all in Spain, although VIII is one of my favorite games ever.
As for DQH, it's fun for 4-5 hours, then you realise that it is aaaalways the same. DQH2 looks really good
>>338532370
Summer 2016! Which means the end of September.
The series actually sells well. I bet some DQ director just hates the west.
>>338532370
>Sumer 2016
>nevermind, sometime in 2016
>nevermind, could be 2017
>nevermind, we're not releasing them, please buy two copies of FFXV
>>338531914
>was a well received traditional RPG on a platform everyone owned
So was 9
>>338532539
Fortunately, that's not the case. Yuji Horii actually wants the games to get brought over. Also, every game in Japan gets commercials with foreign actors. And there's always events for DQ in Europe.
>>338532539
>director
Game director normally doesnt touch about promotion.
>>338532576
9 wasn't purely traditional, it had a multiplayer gimmick that meant that your entire party was made up of characters with no personality
That and the wifi gimmick really weaken the game
>>338532053
>implying playing DQ on your way in the subway isn't super comfy
>>338532539
The main creator wants all his games to come west. He's gone to greath lengths to put unique content on the western released versions of his games.
Its people like the localization Noriyoshi Fujimoto who keep blocking the games from getting localized. Which if the games don't get localized, then no one can release them. Even if Nintendo offers to fully cover the cost of the games release, they can't do anything unless SquareEnix localizes the game.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/09/02/square-enix-still-contemplating-localization-for-dragon-quest-7-on-nintendo-3ds
/v/ needs to stop complaining that the games won't get brought over. Only things we don't get are some spin-offs which is understandable and the MMO which is rightfully not here since no one would play it. 11 will be the first real Dragon Quest in quite a while.
>>338532927
Your characters had no personality because of the ability to make your own characters. Which started with Dragon Quest III on the Famicom (arguably the most popular game in the series).
The problem you are pointing to was indeed the major problem DQIX had. But it was mostly a problem for the west. In Japan, it actually had the opposite effect, it helped the game. Since you couldn't get on a train or walk to school without getting 100 people to trade with.
Dragon Quest X would have worked much better in the west since it was all on a dedicated server, you could play with people even during the main story and it had better content. But of course, that's the one game we didn't get.
>>338533257
Remember everyone. Don't respond to this bait. As he dangles it in every DQ thread, then never shuts up when people respond to him.
>>338533648
What bait? The DQ franchise didn't do anything worthwhile for quite some time so of course we don't get many things in the west. Stop just calling everything bait you don't like and grow a brain.
>>338524361
>The few games that got marketing sold over a million copies.
...like?
Weren't they also released on the two biggest selling consoles ever..?
>>338533207
>He's gone to greath lengths to put unique content on the western released versions of his games.
Like what? I've only ever played the Japanese versions. The only thing I know of is the MC going Super Saiyan if you max out his tension in DQ VIII.
>>338533543
I was in Japan at the time it was released and it really was a true phenomenon
I've never see anything like this in the west with a mobile/portable game, the closest may be the Pokemon back in the late 90s
>>338533960
>...like?
Dragon Quest VIII and IX.
>Weren't they also released on the two biggest selling consoles ever..?
Yeah? And? Their sales aren't retracted just because they were on a high selling system. And there's other games like Dragon Warrior II-IV (NES) or Dragon Quest VII (PS1) which did poorly. Because of no marketing.
>>338534036
>Like what? I've only ever played the Japanese versions. The only thing I know of is the MC going Super Saiyan if you max out his tension in DQ VIII.
That's in the Japanese version as well. The stuff that was unique in western games were stuff like:
Dragon Warrior I - Got remade on the engine for Dragon Quest III for its American release.
Dragon Quest VIII - Got orchestrated music and voice overs, not found in the original Japanese.
Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker - We got the professional version instead of the first release. Since it took so long for it to come to the west.
Of course after this, SquareEnix started to not give a fuck. And we didn't get improved versions of games. When we got games at all.
>>338534036
The Japanese version of VIII only had a MIDI soundtrack while the rest of the world got the fully orchestrated soundtrack.
dumbass spell names and DQ was vastly inferior to cRPGS. Nobody wants to cast shit like zoom, FF did it right with their spell tier system eg fire fira firaga
Anything Toriyama touches that isn't Dragonball is doomed to die, no matter how good it is.
Anyone know if the Chinese version of DQX is going to be in English?
>>338534608
>That's in the Japanese version as well.
No it wasn't. It wasn't in the 3DS version anyway. I also read that it wasn't in the Japanese PS2 version.
>>338534680
Oh yeah, that too. And voice acting.
>>338534907
It'sgoing to be heavily censored.
>>338534680
>horns intensify
I'd have gladly taken the MIDI rather than the obnoxiously loud, unorganized mishmash of orchestral "music" they have in DQ8
>>338535141
Oh come on. The horns weren't that bad.
>>338535137
As long as I can play the game, I'm okay with a little censorship if it's DQX.
>>338534779
>Nobody wants to cast shit like zoom, FF did it right with their spell tier system eg fire fira firaga
So much bait. Zoom is probably the best spell ever introduced to an RPG since it allows you to teleport to or away from areas. It gives the player the control over he flow of the game. Rather than just having to follow the pace of the story like in a FF game. It also allows you to warp out of an area if you want to avoid grinding. Which is the biggest complaint idiots like you use against DQ. But in reality, Final Fantasy games actually have more superfluous grinding because of a lack of being able to avoid battles and not being able to leave areas.
And you're an idiot if you think the naming Fire Final Fantasy spells is good. It was done by the same guy who created the naming convention for Dragon Quest games outside Japan. Who also made accents standard for Square games.
>>338534863
>Anything Toriyama touches that isn't Dragonball is doomed to die, no matter how good it is.
>Dragon Quest is celebrating its 30th anniversary
Sure thing anon.
>>338530879
I think the biggest reason I'm fond of the old translations is because that's what I had growing up. I had no clue what Dragon Quest was over in Japan, all I knew was I got a free game with my Nintendo Power subscription and became hooked from there.
>>338535106
Tension was also in the Japanese version of Dragon Quest VIII.
>>338535141
you have horrible taste, son. Sure the MIDI one sounded good but the orchestral one was great
>>338527191
Zeer Rocks
Xerox.
Dunno I imported the Minecraft clone they did and it was fun. English dub when?
>>338535734
Tension was, but not MC's hair going all spikey, that was English version only.
Has there been any news of DQ XI coming to the west?
>>338535760
The localizations in the Dragon Quest games is astoundingly bad.
>>338535734
Tension was there, but the Hero didn't have the Super Saiyan face at max tension.
>>338535975
There hasn't even been any news on when DQXI is releasing in Japan.
>>338535975
Nope.
>>338529112
>no song has topped this
>>338534863
Whatever you say, son
>>338532576
9 started out as a very non-traditional game. It was a multiplayer action RPG retooled due to fan backlash in Japan. In the end, we got a game that doesn't truly feel like a traditional game.
>>338535975
Square Enix has said that they plan on releasing the game in Japan on May 27th this year at the earliest and on May 27th next year at the latest.
http://gematsu.com/2016/01/dragon-quest-xi-aiming-release-before-may-27-2017-japan
>Calling it DQX instead of DQ Online
Just fuck my shit up, DQXI should be DQX.
>>338536780
I'll fuck you up, guy.
>>338536780
>DQX
I wonder if private servers for that gane will ever be a thing.
>aside from Vanillaware, Dragon Quest games are the only games I really get hyped for anymore
>Dragon Quest games don't come to the west
SquareEnix is worse than Konami. At least Konami released their games.
>Implying this wouldn't sell 500.000 on the west being the only MMO on the 3DS.
>Maybe even go B2P and sell extra content as DLC.
Why is Square so stupid.
Turn bassed Dragon Quest MMO on a handeld, fucking comfy levels just exploded.
>>338537096
Sure. With emulation its very possible
>>338538040
It's literally a streaming client, you're playing the wii version streamed from some shit server in Japan and it's fucking terrible.
Nobody would put up with that bullshit in the west.
>>338538218
Didn't know that senpai.
Sounds like shit, thought the 3DS has running the game.
>>338538218
I did. Was a lot of fun, but I'm far from the typical consumer.
I presumably they would make english servers if it was localized though.
>>338538387
You have to pay an extra subscription fee as well as the normal one just for the privilege of playing on 3DS too.
I was as excited as you were until I tried it.
>360$ on amazon
>regular version is 160$
fug it's just way too much.
>>338538040
The game would do fine even if it was just on PC. Let alone if they also released the Wii U, PS4 and NX versions.
>>338522728
I had to watch a commercial to watch a commercial
>>338536512
>posts something that is dead
>>338532927
>it had a multiplayer gimmick that meant that your entire party was made up of characters with no personality
So you never played DQIII?
>>338530187
there were new items, quests, and events.
>>338529208
https://github.com/polaris-/nintendo_dwc_emulator/wiki I have read nothing at all but here's maybe a starting point
>>338531545
underrated
>>338532927
I always thought the lack of the characters really allowed for better story telling in each of the towns. Silent protagonist worked for me in this game.
>>338541352
The problem is that the party members really feel like they shouldn't even be there. See how they just disappear with no explanation whenever you go on the train or to heaven because, according to the story, they shouldn't even be able to see them, being normal humans.
>>338541907
Got me there. I never noticed the inconsistency. The other npcs were just humans. I guess my hype for the game masked some of its flaws.
>>338541907
play dq3
dq9 was short in comparison to dq8 and has a multiplayer focus, but its still a normal dq game.
>>338542243
so are you telling me to play 3 or 8? I played 8 and I think I finished it. I've considered playing it again. And I've been browsing the DS titles recently.
>>338542243
Uh? I did play DQIII and I don't generally dislike fully customizable parties.
I'm just saying that the story of IX was clearly written with just the hero in mind and the party feels tacked on and doesn't make much sense.
>>338543151
Actually, in the context of the story, you lose your angelic powers and become 'normal' before you go to the place to make your own characters. This is also why NPCs can see you. So having people on your party doesn't break the rules of the story.
Why they don't appear in cutscenes? Might be because of DS limitations or just because they're not important to the story.
>>338544264
No, you're still half human half celestial, and that's why you can interact with both sides. Until the end of the game, when you wish to lose your remaining powers: then you stop seeing the celestial being and were even supposed to forget about them until you eat another fruit and get your powers back.
Reminder that VIII was shit and if you like it you're a shit faced shit.
4 fucking party members, only 2 of which you join up with since you basically start with 2.
Shitty skill trees that leave entire weapon groups completely worthless for an entire playthrough.
Crafting system out of a fucking facebook game.
Monster recruitment reduced to specific monsters in specific locations that don't even join your party.
Not to mention the western release including voice acting was the thing that kickstarted the incredibly shitty text accents that we still fucking have to deal with today.
VIII is shit and I personally hate each and every single person who says it's a good game.
>>338545174
Nah. 8 is amazing. But so is every game in the series. Well maybe the first two...are still good.
>tfw can't get a (liquid) metal slme to join in V
reeeeeee
>>338545927
Thank you for addressing my points and not being a fucking retard like most VIII fanboys
Oh
Wait
>>338545942
What are the odds?
>>338545174
8 was pretty straightforward I agree. The system itself felt kind of bare bones with the combat and I felt regret specing in a certain stat and wanted to try another. It still has some charm and I really like the goofy voices. Especially because the VA is pretty good for a ps2 title. I'll prolly emulate it at somepoint so I can speed up the dull parts.
>>338545942
I tried for both them and Metal Slimes so long that I never needed to worry about grinding ever.
>>338545174
8 is easily the best one in the series. You're a fucking retard. Stay mad.
>>338545174
>please pay attention to me senpai!
>>3385465364 is best.
>>338545174
>this is what FFtards ACTUALLY believe
stay delusional
>>338545174
>8 is bad.
>4 party members is bad instead of having like 20 different members you need to micromanage.
>Wanting overly complex crafting so you can grind and go through more bullshit just to play the game.
>Whining about the voice acting and accents when they're part of the series' charm.
lol stay fucking mad
>>338521890
Shitty accents
>>338546907
Usually it's FFtards that overrate DQVIII, since they can't stand the old ones due to first person combat and no voice afting.
>>338545174
>4 fucking party members, only 2 of which you join up with since you basically start with 2.
Leaves more room for character growth, as evidenced by the massive shift they all go through in the last half of the game
>Shitty skill trees that leave entire weapon groups completely worthless for an entire playthrough.
Gives each weapon tree worth, instead of letting min-maxing faggots like you spread 1000 points and get perfect damage rolls by the 2nd boss
>Crafting system out of a fucking facebook game.
You're an idiot
>Monster recruitment reduced to specific monsters in specific locations that don't even join your party.
Bad mechanic from the worst games in the series
>Not to mention the western release including voice acting was the thing that kickstarted the incredibly shitty text accents that we still fucking have to deal with today.
>Hating on based Yangus
Can't agree with you guv
>>338546978
>>4 party members is bad instead of having like 20 different members you need to micromanage.
It is when it means absolutely no variation in how you build you team, yes.
>>Wanting overly complex crafting so you can grind and go through more bullshit just to play the game.
I want crafting where I don't have to wait for 10 minutes to craft another item.
>Whining about the voice acting and accents when they're part of the series' charm.
>literally one game in the main series has voice acting.
>accents were added only after half the fucking series and multiple spinoffs had been released in the west.
Uh huh ok
>>338527660
I hope to some force that they put her in DQ Heroes 2
>>338547419
>5
>worst game in the series
u wot m9
>>338521890
Anyone know when DQ8 is coming to 3DS?
>>338548003
at this rate, next year most likely. we still don't know when 7 is coming out
>>338548003
Sometime after Dragon Quest VII. So probably around 2050.
>>338548003
No one knows.
>>338548003
FUG, I meant 7. Is there a release date for DQ7 yet?
III is the best game in the series.
>tfw getting to Zoma
Goosebumps everytime.
>>338548387
They said early summer, but who knows.
>>338548387
TBA 2016
>>338547419
>Leaves more room for character growth, as evidenced by the massive shift they all go through in the last half of the game
IV and V both have better characterization and they also have more party members available to you (and fucking monster companions in the case of V) More characters != less character growth.
>Gives each weapon tree worth
Are you gonna sit there with a straight face and tell me the knives skill tree for Jessica or the Boomerang Skill tree for the hero are "given worth?"
>Bad mechanic from the worst games in the series
>DQM 1 and 2
>DQV
>Bad
I know you 8fags have shit taste, but come on.
>Hating on based Yangus
Yangus is possibly the only decent voice performance in the entire game. Having to deal with years of fucked up translations because of it is not worth it.
>>338548524
What worries me is how longer it will take for Europe to get it too.
>>338548650
>>338547419
>>338546978
Stop responding to an obvious attention whore.
>>338548136
Just so you all know, she's a great party member.
>Tension +50 (or 100 if you can get it up that high)
>Killer Juggling
>Watch things die
>>338548781
Isn't SE good to pal? Or am I thinking of someone else
Dragon Quest is the best RPG series for many reasons. But chief among them is how the girls are both sexy and well developed characters.
>>338525010
>>338549513
>>338549781
I hope you enjoy VI. Underrated as fuck one of my faves.
>>338550337
VI is fucking shit. Easily the worst DQ.
>>338550337
>tfw you play VI for the first time and realize that Terry and Milly are the same Terry and Milly from Monsters 1
So i've never played DQ before, i started DQ8, like 2 hours ago and just recruited Jessica.
Game is pretty slow so far, does it get better? i am pretty bored.
>>338550521
Fuck you too faggot.
>>338526771
i'm sure the jap versions have very sophisticated writing in comparison.
>>338551378
I don't think it's a very good game for babby's first DQ especially because it's pretty long compared to the other games (except 7)
DQ5 is probably the best starting game.
>>338549781
if I wanted to emulate the original trilogy, which versions should I play
>>338553283Android
>>338550521
Yeah I got unbelievably bored while playing it, even II was better because it only took me two days to finish it.
>>338553798
>no android device
well shit
>>338551378
That's the thing with DQ, don't go in expecting endless style and cool cutscenes. You play Dragon Quest to run around a medieval European fantasy world, explore, kill monsters, collect treasure, and defeat the ancient evil.
Dragon Warrior is underappreciated. It makes me wish there would be JRPGs with just a single character. You could do so many cool new things if you focus on one character.
>>338553283
I've only ever played the SFC versions, but they were all good, especially DQ III. I've heard about there being a problem with the English patch in DQ I and II, where you have to unpatch it for a moment at times, but I don't know if that's still a problem, it may have been fixed by now.
>>338553283
DQI is just as good on anyu platform. You'll probably prefer the SNES one because of improved graphics and faster EXP.
DQII, you really need to larger resolution of the SNES version. The SNES one also improves EXP rates and movement. The NES version, while playable, is the hardest game in the series.
DQIII, play the SNES version without question.
>>338554186
..You know. I can't really think of many JRPGs with a solo hero actually.
>>338554186
I still think its one of the core games on the NES which has aged well. Up there with Mario 1 and Zelda 1. Its simple, but that's not exactly a bad thing. I'd even say I prefer DQ1 over DQ2.
>>338554327
I believe there is just one glitch in the snes version of ii where you need to make sure you have a yggdrasil leaf with you before a certain point in the game or else it locks up with an endless text loop or something.
>>338521890
no marketing most of the times
DQVIII and IX sold well enough because they had proper marketing
then SE proceeded to bury DQ localizations because idunno
What 3D DQ game is best to start with? I have access to 360, PS3, and all Sony and Ninty handhelds.pls tell me there's a way
>>338555093
Well there is only 2 main games that are 3d and 2 spinoffs. Just 8 and 9 for main and Monsters Joker 1 and 2. PS3 version of heroes wasnt localized either.
>>338555009
>DQVIII and IX sold well enough because they had proper marketing
And came with an FF XII demo, in DQ VIII's case.
>>338555093
DQVIII is the game that set the style for all the 3D games since. But its also the only real option we have besides Joker or Swords for a 3D game.
>>338555093
Just wait for the 3DS versions of DQ VII and VIII. Or emulate some of the 2D ones in the meantime.
>>338555327
true, but still, SE made an effort and it did work
>>338549513
>My littlecritbotcan't be this cute!
>>338555093
Why does it have to be 3D? The DS Dragon Quest games have 2D sprites and 3D environments and it works fine.
>>338556280
I fucking love the look of the ds games and I wish 3 got that treatment.
>>338555093
you should just start with DQIV or V since starting straight with VIII might bore you right away
also V has monster recruiting, a feature that should be implemented more often
>>338556570
1 to 3 deserve the DQVII 3DS treatment
considering DQ IV-VI remakes use a lot of resources from DQVII PSX
>>338556784
I guess seeing them remade again would be nice.
>>338556784
Didn't they get DS versions in japland anyways
>>338557201
you mean the Wii Rerelease?
those had the SNES remakes and the originals, nothing else
>>338521890
Bland art style.
Very generic gameplay that always has the same skills every game.
Shallow dialog which despite how wordy it is.
It just screams mediocre. In fact it's my go to series when I want to play something mediocre, don't need to be invested in and can just shut my brain off for.
>>338557701
(You)
>>338557701
But this isn't a wrpg anon
>>338558108
None of those are traits of JRPGs though.
>>338549781
Is 3 really that good?
3 and 7 are the only ones I haven't played yet.
>>338557701
>Bland art style.
>Very generic gameplay that always has the same skills every game.
>Shallow dialog which despite how wordy it is.
By your logic, Pokemon should have also failed. But obviously it didn't. What's the major difference? Pokemon has had the biggest marketing budget in video game history. Dragon Quest hasn't.
dragon quest fighting game when
>>338560128
Someday.
>>338558969
not that guy but ive played 12345 89.
3 is amazing. it fixes the problems of dq2 and lets you have a custom party.
its also right before the series becomes story heavy, so its great if you love exploration and battles.
also all the porn came from it because creating a custom party kinda makes your mind fill in the blanks for those party members. they don't even say anything but you get attached to your members
rip thred
>>338522728
>the remakes were great
The localization was god awful that made the dialogue far harder to read than it should have been.
>>338562808
it was good while it lasted, and FFXV-kun didn't come to shit it up
>>338525391
>The 7 and 8 remakes will be butchered to hell, mark my words.
Well Jessica's bikini is already censored in Japan as is Red's outfit.
So ya, expect more along those lines.
>>338562808
ded series ded thread
>>338563125
>being illiterate
I can literally read the text as is AND read it while converting it to normal speech as a I go. Not hard at all.
>>338521890
Not edgy enough, unlike Final Fagtasy.
>>338563421
Notice I said that it was harder to read than it should have been, not impossible.
The fact that you converted it to normal text as you read along proves my point, the accents where stupid and pointless, nobody fucking writes like that.
>>338560125
Well ok let's go through the list.
First, Pokemon's art style, specifically character and monster design isn't really generic. Weird at times, shitty at times, but rarely generic.
Second, Pokemon's gameplay is expanded upon every game, huge amounts of skills are added every game.
Third, Pokemon's dialog is shallow but it's not wordy. It's short and barely even tries to have a story. It's not a positive thing but it's not a focus of the game either. What really plays to it's advantage is it has a massive competitive multiplayer community who isn't even interested in the story or dialog.
I'm not really a pokemon fan but the differences are pretty obvious when you give it a little thought.
>>338538218
Actually is the Wii U/PC version
>>338564203
>Pokemon isn't generic but Dragon Quest is
>Pokemon's gameplay expanded each game while Dragon Quest didn't
>Pokemon is shallow, but DQ is bad because its shallow and has more words
>>338563421
>being illiterate
Please stop using this stupid comeback any time someone doesn't agree with you that the accents are good. Anyone can read the accents. But the fact that it takes extra processing power to do so destroys the entire point of a localization. Which is trying to make something easier to understand for a new market. Instead, they go out of their way to make it harder to understand.
Plus, you keep conveniently overlooking that all the accents change the character to be nothing like what Yuji Horii even wrote in the first place. You might think Alena speaking in backward s Yoda speak is endearing. But that's not what Alena is suppose to sound like, it is not.
>>338566449
>But that's not what Alena is suppose to sound like, it is not.
Well played sir.
>>338564203
Fuck off with that bullshit. Sugimori's early style was a straight rip of Toriyama's
>>338567551
Plus Pokemon basically copied Dragon Quest with its skills and engine. But that guy was trolling anyway so obviously he wasn't going to admit this.
>>338563872
>Fagtasy
Its Fagasy to fucking mong
>>338521890
Enix. Completely fucked up any chance of it being popular in the west because there was no strong marketing for it or mass advertising campaign like Pokemon and Final Fantasy had.
The games themselves don't have strong appeal in the west because in the west they try marketing it to older people but they don't care for anime artstyle games , unlike Pokemon which is marketed to kids and that is the main people who buy it since kids like anime artstyle, and FF uses artstyle that is mature and more appropriate for adults to enjoy so they never had the problem DQ has.
>>338571340
>Enix. Completely fucked up any chance of it being popular in the west because there was no strong marketing for it or mass advertising campaign like Pokemon and Final Fantasy had.
That doesn't excuse SquareEnix, which did market Dragon Quest VIII and Joker, then suddenly stopped all marketing for the series after that.
>The games themselves don't have strong appeal in the west because in the west they try marketing it to older people but they don't care for anime artstyle games
Stopped reading. If Chrono Trigger can sell 1.5 million copies, Dragon Ball game can sell 4 million copies and Pokemon can sell fucking 20 million copies, there's plenty of opportunity for Dragon Quest to get popular. It just didn't get that opportunity because both Enix and SquareEnix fucked up.
>>338526771
>hating on the puns
>>338572442
They weren't punny enough.
