Admit it, you're getting it.
>>338359126
No, I'll be busy playing Overwatch.
lol no
>>338359164
This. Lost all interest in WoW after playing OW
Ha, no.
>>338359164
yep me too
>>338359126
Pre-ordered on day one. My guild/online friends don't seem to understand that I am staying away to maintain my sanity during this outrageous delay.
Ive had people offer to buy it for me... still no.
>me and mates went back to wow last month to try and beat the current and old content before Legion
>we were actually enjoying ourselves, running 5 man mythics, making pugs, getting classic 'chievos and looking forward to the next expansion
>had all these plans about how we'd start a proper guild for the first time, recruit people and run some progressive raids as soon as we could
>bot ban wave goes out 2 days ago and like 80% of our group got banned
>half don't get unbanned until November, the rest, some time next year
So much for progressive raiding you fucking cheating assbags.
Quit right after Cata. Looking at the shit that is in the game now (Garrisons, welfare legendaries) I certainly don't want to come back.
>>338359417
>welfare legendaries
Where?
Literally no clue what Legion is about. Is Illidan not dead anyone? Did he get better from being dead like faggot elf did? Death isn't much of a setback these days huh.
>>338359525
Everyone in legion gets a legendary weapon? And you don't even get weapon drops anymore just shitty upgrades?
Or did they change that?
I resubbed. Started playing in 2006, quit after lich king.
Here's to disappointment.
>>338359576
Illidan is going to become a "hero of the light" after a Naaru does shit to him. Apparently this was all planned. The newest book wrote in that before Illidan was killed by the champions in TBC he like went on a spirit journey where a Naaru told him he would be a hero. Then he was sent back to his body and the heroes defeated him.so basically killing him back in TBC didn't NEED to happen or matter
Probably to level to max once and forget it, like every expac since Cata
>>338359126
Pre-ordered and currently playing the beta
>bought Mists with big plans for the end-game
>got bored and dropped it shortly after hitting max level
>bought Warlords with big plans for the end-game
>made a conscious effort to slog through the early endgame to get to the good stuff
>still got bored and dropped it
I'd like to be able to get back into it but I think that period in my life is over.
>>338359590
Artifact weapons aren't legendaries.
They introduced legendaries similar to Diablo 3 however, with class and spec based effects.
>>338359812
Quality writing right there.
WoW lore was a mistake.
Yeah but only because I'm in a guild that does pretty well with progression raiding.
>tfw even more ability pruning
>>338360020
>even more ability pruning
good, can fit my fishing in there
>>338359126
No fuck you
Reported for advertising
>>338360020
That looks just sad
i already got it and i feel like a fucking moron
currently unsubbed and might not even play even though i already bought
if this reaches the eyes of anyone at blizzard FUCK YOU
enjoy getting rich of retards and microtransactions whores
>garrisons 2.0
lmao
blade and soul and bdo ruined any experience i could have in WoW again
Has to be action combat for me now, now if these fucking koreans could make something where you actually get randomized loot and a real open world I'd have some real fun.
>>338359164
1st post best post
>>338360120
Most other specs aren't much better.
Why would I, when I can just play the game that it shamelessly stole from?
>>338360149
thids is an n epic poist xD!!!!!!!!!!
>>338360193
>More than half the game is overpriced DLC
I hope you pirated.
>>338360193
Because Warcraft did it better.
>he didn't cancel back in early Cata
>>338360187
WHERE ARE ALL THE SPELLS WHAT THE FUCK BLIZZARD
Sure
once I get my free 7 days near the end of the expansion that they always send me
Already beat WOD with my latest 7 days
Really though, who the -fuck- subs to modern WOW, you can beat it in less then a week
>>338359126
No, Blizz will hand it out for free like they did WoD.
Nope my guild getting ready to raid uld.
>>338360312
ahahahahhahahahaahahahaaaaahahhaha
the only way I'll play is if someone buys it for me
>>338360259
>being this defensive about paying to play a facebook game
lmao
>>338360307
>Beat it
You in full 730's, bitch?
>>338360187
>>338360020
Are they getting this ready for consoles or what?
>>338360389
>Being so salty that he can't enjoy fun video games anymore
Why do you hate fun? Fuck off back to lereddit
I pre-ordered it.
I forgot that I pre-ordered it.
Yeah, i'm going to play.
Ive got a two month game card here I got as a gift too.
Should I buy game time tokens now or wait?
Ive got 250k
>>338360405
>Gear is content
See, this is why the game is shit, because of faggots like this
Also what the fuck is the point of grinding BiS when next patch resets your progress and its useless outside of raids
>>338360409
Yes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkPs9-bJZpQ
>>338360409
+1
upvote
"like"
retweet
You win the internet for today, sir!
Nah, it just looks like more of the same stuff they've been spitting out for the last couple of years. I don't enjoy dailies and sitting in fucking orgrimmar/garrison waiting for queue's to pop. Plus, the leveling experience is like 10 hours at this point to get to max level, it's not fun anymore.
There's no sense of dread/danger getting killed while pve'ing because all the mobs are ridiculously weak compared to you. The game is just past it's prime and the only ones sticking around are the addicts who just can't give it up.
>>338360405
Whenever I fight another player, yes :)
>>338359126
might get it down the line, I have 8 wow tokens to use, but really not feeling the itch anymore
>>338360475
Normies dont know how to make gold and normies are the only people that will play Legion.
So that means normies will buy a fuck ton of tokens to sell for gold but since half-way decent players that know how to make some gold will be a dime a dozen the token will tank in price at launch.
>>338360405
>You in full 730's, bitch?
I hope you're being ironic on purpose
>>338360457
>he pays to play a facebook game and then ironically shitposts in defense of it
>he calls this "fun"
Is that seriously your defense for any flaw in this deeply flawed game?
>>338360492
I still have my old tier sets on retail.
As useless as they are I can still say that I earned them. I think that's the point.
>>338360405
>not full mythic
LMAO
>>338360589
>Not finishing content
>Still crying
??????
Are WoW fans the most cancerous of them all?
>>338360521
it's not really that easy to reach max level unless you have heirlooms.
assuming you have somewhat of alifeit will take about 3-4 weeks to go 0 to 100.
>Never paid a single cent for WoW
>Have never owned WoW or any WoW expansion
>Don't like Blizzard games
But gee, I guess if you say I'm getting it I'm getting it, even though I have no way to play it and have no interest in playing it.
>>338359126
I won a legion beta key, jelly?
>>338360686
Well yes, they think gearscore matters to anyone.
Of course, I have friends.
>>338360726
Played since vanilla and not got a single beta invite, so slightly yeah here is your (you)
>>338360697
Depends if you're leveling a dps or not.
Non-dps can spam dungeons.
>>338360726
FUck yourself
>>338360492
nah
honestly though i really want to try it though
only because professions are not garrison trash shit anymoreand i really love the new female orc character models
if they announce legacy servers they'll definitely get a preorder for me
but its really not that hard to ignore this game because i still have witcher 3 and dark souls 3 dlc to keep me distracted from it
>>338359126
Nigger, I dropped this shit even before Lich King and never came back. Just let it die already.
Alright /v/
Now that the dust is settled, what class will be your main in the xpac? Im most likely gonna keep rollin with my boomkin.
>>338359126
I pre ordered it.
I've been around since the start of tbc.
I'm going to ride the blizzdrone train all the way to fuck city.
I don't expect much from it, but it's been like 11 years, no reason to stop now
Yeah I'am gonna get it I hope its gonna be good.it probably wont
Post UI's to stave off the inevitable disappointment.My account is down and I dont want to waste a token to take a picture of my UI and Shaman.
>>338360726
I'm in the same boat with >>338360807 so a little bit
>>338360889
Spriest, Ele sham or boomkin.
>>338359126
never played WoW so no
I understand WoW is shit, but it's the only half decent MMO out there
inb4 someone replies with some grind shit anime garbage made by yellow people
>>338360889
mage and druid always every time, they are objectively the best classes and always have favorable outcomes on the blizzard buffnerf wheel of fortune
>>338360583
Yeah, I guess ill wait then.
Still feels like a gamble to me somehow though.
I suppose anyone who has any sort of good gold making method has already gotten their subscription handled by then, or has tokens in reserve.
>>338361040
Actually ff 14 is more wow like than wow is
>>338360807
I got one for WotLK
kind of regretted playing it, spoiled the experience for me a bit I guess
playing that piece of shit when runescape exists
>>338360889
blood and unholy dk for main and arcane mage for my farming alt
i was looking into survival hunter but it turns out it aint that big of a change after all
ill still probably work on it to complete my orc girl harem
>>338361040
>I understand WoW is shit, but it's the only half decent MMO out there
This is the only reason Blizzard makes money
>WoW basically has no legitimate competition out of korean garbage
>SC2 has literally no competition
>Diablo has no competition outside of F2P garbage
>Hearthstone has no competition except the knock off version made by JaGEx
>Overwatch only has TF2 to compete with, and TF2 doesn't have tits and ass
>>338361196
>Overwatch only has TF2 to compete with, and TF2 doesn't have tits and ass
Wow I thought Overwatch had more going for it what happened ?
>>338361164
>blood and unholy dk for main
Why would you do that to yourself?
>>338361196
also TF2 became complete shit after hats/crafting.
RIP
>>338360583
>>338360583
This, coupled with the fact they are pruning gold generating methods and will be introducing heavy gold sinks in legion which they say is to curb inflation but its really the next step stage in their gold selling plan.
Anyone with a bit of sense will just continue business as usual.
>Afk with sniper running
>make more gold afk than normies will ever see
>>338361159
it's like you like loading, polygons and no content
>>338360889
My shaman.
Glory to the Frostwolves
>>338361382
lmao no i have the runescape client on my solid state gf moran
>not playing oldschool
>>338361382
they removed loading
also runescape has way more content than WoW
>>338361320
its either that or warrior on my plate classes for my orc girl harem
while the fury changes seem okay
im not really digging the prot changes
and with DK my racials have more value
>>338361581
>be orc
>best race in legion now human racial is removed
Feels good to be a femorc
>>338360405
This is the same garbage argument Ion Hazzikostas uses to justify why players are wrong about WoD. He'll probably still think he's right when the game drops below 2 million subscribers
>>338360889
Moving to warrior, DKs got absolutely destroyed by the ability prune, so back to the warrior which was my main from BC -> MOP. DKs also don't get a new class hall, and the Warrior one is delicious, so that just makes it easier
>>338361739
Ah yes I can already feel the bandwagon pulling up.
2.5 second stun and slows with diminishing returns here we come.
its not going to last but I'll sure enjoy the fucking ride
>>338361836
is there a more sinister looking man than ian hazizizfiafzlf
>>338362041
He worked as a practicing lawyer for many years, so the sinisterness is not just your imagination. Also explains why he always talks around the point and never addresses anything directly
>>338359164
You say this like it's a good thing. WoW is terrible now no doubt. But at least it's not a fucking TF2 clone.
Already got it
Will resub for 60 days one month before release and brush up on WoD content and then play one month of Legion. If i like it and we get good additional content i might resub somewhere down the middle of the expansion
Ive been doing this since WotLK
>>338359126
I'm over WoW. Blizzard made it clear that they wanted a different crowd years ago. There's nothing here for me and nostalgia isn't even enough to get me interested any more. Time has marched on and so I with it.
>>338362305
> everything is a clone
im sure enjoyin this meme.
>tfw they are getting rid of the only troll character in the entire game
I'll just stick with Overwatch for a while
Im not paying 60 fucking dollars for reskinned garbage
>>338359812
Killing him in TBC didn't NEED to happen even in TBC. They just needed a big spooky villain and randomly chose Illidan, even though it made literally no sense
Since /WoWg/ is full avatars, and this seems the most appropriate thread:
>Best Class
>Best Race
>Best Race/Class combo
Lorewise or gameplaywise it doesn't matterbut would love to hear your reasoning.Horde or Alliance, who should really win, if it was allowed to be resolved?
>>338359978
It was decent up until they made Boolvar the Lich King.
>there must always be a lich king
No there musn't and you look fucking stupid with that helmet and orange colour scheme.
>>338362716
Paladin
Dwarf
Dwarf fury warrior with avatar talent
I like dorfs
>>338360405
full 740 when I fight against others @:^)
>>338362723
The orange COLOR scheme is alright but he looks pretty stupid with just the helmet on and none of the armor.
>>338362716
Priest
Dwarf
Orc Warrior
>could have had Azshara and N'zoth
>instead they're going to resurrect Illidan just to rape him to death
>>338359576
Illidan never died at the end of BC, was just captured by Maiev. Players are basically never allowed to actually kill Lore characters in WoW, case in point Deathwing, who had to be killed by green jesus to please Metzen.
>DH is just Rogue lite
>One defensive ability is literally smoke bomb but called something different
>>338360515
I would definetly level my 4 abilities rotation warrior with a comfy controller but there's no solution for looting shit
>>338360986
This mess that I had been too lazy to do more with.
>>338363067
-We killed Arthas.
-We killed onyxia
-We killed Nefarian
-We killed Kael(5man)
>>338363176
this thing always drops. I literally have it on 4 different characters, with 3 of them unable to even use it.
Guess that explains why Illidan's bow was always better.
>>338363148
Steam controller has a touchpad instead of a D-Pad which allows more precise control of a pointer, it actually works fine for looting shit.
>>338362962
>color
I'm not a burger, son.
>>338363264
>steam controller
I guess, I just tried it with my xbone controller
>>338362716
Dwarf
Monk
Dwarf/Monk
Hate me but i am happy
>>338363190
Hence basically never, nothing recent there
>>338363190
Tirion killed arthas
ony and nef weren't exactly GIGANTIC lore characters. ony was kind of, but she wasn't like end of an expac boss
>>338359126
No?
>>338359126
MMOs r 4 gaylords
>>338360124
You can refund through live chat
>>338359126
played wow once, got bored and uninstalled it the next day. never again.
>>338363358
I would say Kargath, but I guess that doesn't count since Warlord timeline shit.
>>338363417
If Tirion killed him, why did players finish him? Tirion lifts him or whatever faggy Pally shit he uses, but we're the ones beating him down.
Is the official lore that Tirion killed him? Because that's some bullshit if they gave him credit when he was frozen the entire battle.
![killdragon[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/D7uXW34.jpg "killdragon[1].png")
>>338363190
>>338363417
lol guys XD
WE didn't kill onyxia, it was the most badass character Varian Wolfheart Wrynn (OC donut steel)
>>338363568
>I would say Kargath, but I guess that doesn't count since Warlord timeline shit.
He was also meant to live and come back in Hellfire Citadel, then get killed by the Laughing Skull leader, but that was cut.
>>338363597
yeah, I'm fuckin' done. fuck this game.
nope got banned for botting on purpose
>>338363597
and holy shit is that artwork ever awful
DC trully has the worst artists
>>338363568
The canon is that Arthas was toying with us the entire fight. When he gets bored he instantly kills the entire raid and begins to resurrect them, as per his plan, into agents of the scourge. The only thing that stops him is Tirion breaking out and basically soloing him because of Ashbringer
>>338359126
>0.05$ has been transferred to your battle.net account
>>338359126
I'm Actually pretty excited for it, Gonna Pre order it on the Start on August.
>>338363953
>You have been credited with 15 memecoins
>Made by same people
>Has command table
>Has class Garrison
>End game content appears to be grinding mobs similar to apexis zones in WoD
It will be definitely be different from WoD guys
>>338360020
Friendly reminder that this is shit posting, Balance doesn't have that many buttons.
>>338364028
>>Made by same people
Actually Legion is being made by the Diablo 3 team, which did not develop WoD.
>>338364047
And take a look at fucking Restoration Druids, look how much they've pruned this spec! Unbelievable!
>>338359164
First post, shill post
>>338359126
No, I'm not getting it. I don't have stockholm syndrome.
>>338364013
What other point there is to make a thread like that than to shill the game?
>>338359126
Sure.
I'll buy it.
I haven't played more than six hous of WoW, ten years ago, and I've never paid for any of the releases before, but sure, I'm getting Legion.
It's really looking as if this time, it'll start being worth my time.
>>338359414
what bot
>>338360739
>Of course, I have friends.
>That's why I'm playing a game for people with no friends
>>338364309
some times people like to make threads about video games on /v/
it's rare but it happens
>>338364047
>>338364125
For real though, Balance's toolkit has grown a little bit since WoD, there's now more abilities to use during combat as well.
>>338364421
>no simb
>no might of ursoc
Balance is a meme outside of dancing with the stars and lsd
>>338359126
This and overwatch desperately need a Toddler "JUST BUY IT" meme edit. The amount of shilling has been ridiculous.
It's the first expansion I'm just not getting.
Normally there has always been something that wowed me back (no pun intended), but every new feature in this expansion is just awful.
Let's review:
- Everyone gets an Ashbringer
- No new weapons ever again
- No stat management
- Even more ability pruning
- Garrisons are back in an even worse form
- Still no CC required
- Obvious Burning Crusade nostalgia grab
I would say the only decent things this expansion is offering are Mythic+ dungeons and updated animations.
World of Warcraft is finally over, guys.
>>338364476
You mean Symbiosis? It was removed because it was too OP, it's sorely missed, though. Symbiosis hasn't been here since MoP though.
MoU has been gone since then as well, it was a shitty defensive, and I'm glad they removed it and made Barkskin double as good.
>>338360020
you know they are doing console port when those abilities are getting smaller
>>338364751
>>338364751
>console port this late into WoW's lifecycle
You're mad.
>>338364751
why is it so shiny
>>338364903
It very likely would be a huge success.
>>338364530
>Everyone gets an Ashbringer
Granted, that's stupid, but it's the premise of the expansion
>No new weapons ever again
You'll likely throw away your artifact for blues in the next expansion.
>No stat management
Literally no different than what we've ever had, excluding reforging (which was a glorified hit-cap machine)
>Even more ability pruning
Everything's been condensed, no one has really lost anything of value
>Garrisons are back in an even worse form
They're really not worse than the current garrisons, and they interfere a lot less with your gameplay.
>Still no CC required
Must've hated this bit ever since Wrath, then?
>Obvious Burning Crusade nostalgia grab
No, that was WoD. The people who joined because they missed TBC already left, and they're most likely not coming back.
>>338364751
I've never understood this meme
FFXIV has buttons on buttons on buttons and is on console.
>>338365016
FFXIV has competent developers though
>>338365067
>>338365067
Good joke, but that still doesn't really answer why ability pruning points to consoles, when it doesn't.
>>338364403
This is why he made a "You know you are buying this" instead of "What do you think about it" thread?
>>338365007
>Must've hated this bit ever since Wrath, then?
CC was required at the start of Cata when heroics were good before casuals blew up the forums with complaints.
>You'll likely throw away your artifact for blues in the next expansion.
Very unlikely. These are the most powerful weapons in the warcraft universe. Blizzard would shoot themselves in the foot if the Ashbringer is replaced by Bearslayer Greatsword of the Bear.
>No, that was WoD.
WoD attempted to play on all kinds of nostalgia. God I remember those "back to the roots" presentations. But this time they're really going for BC with the whole Legion theme plus Illidan. It's just shameful.
The rest of your post is bullshit I'm not even going to address.
>>338362305
>TF2 clone
but I thought OW was a moba? what changed?
>>338359126
got GW2 instead to fix my mmo addiction, worse than pre-cata wow but better than current wow plus no need to grind for tokens/pay sub
>>338365256
Relying on the shitty 'u never quit WoW xd' meme doesn't really mean much, anon
>>338365007
>They're really not worse than the current garrisons
That's about the lowest form of praise possible to give. Not worse than the mechanic that almost single-handedly tanked an expansion, wow, what an accomplishment.
>>338364903
Not necessarily, they probably see it as the final untapped frontier of players they've yet to capture into the game, console-only players
Chosen One Illidan bothers me, but then I'm getting total power fantasy on my Death Knight so whatever.
Unholy spec looks really fun now.
I will be getting it, because they redeemed Diablo 3 with the expansion.
This is, however, the last chance that I give to Blizzard
>>338365540
Yeah DKs sure are getting a 'total' fantasy in Legion:
>Removed abilities
Plaguebearer
Plague Leech
Unholy Blight
Lichborne
Anti-Magic Zone - now PvP Talent
Death's Advance
Chilblains
Blood Tap
Death Siphon
Conversion
Spellbreaker
Desecrated Ground
Necrotic Plague
Death Pact
Asphyxiate - Unholy Only Talent
Soul Reaper - Unholy Only Talent & Changed
Breath of Sindragosa - Frost Only Talent
Runic Corruption now baseline Unholy
Runic Empowerment now baseline Frost
Gorefiend's Grasp now baseline Blood
Remorseless Winter now baseline Frost
>>338365701
>passives and active abilities which either fit badly into rotation, are very situational, or evry RNG
>>338363597
>That writing and art
It's all just so awful.
>>338365286
>Very unlikely. These are the most powerful weapons in the warcraft universe. Blizzard would shoot themselves in the foot if the Ashbringer is replaced by Bearslayer Greatsword of the Bear.
Do you know anything about how the game works?
And you called my post BS.
>>338365920
Blood Tap fits perfectly in the rotation, there's basically not enough to do without it as a Frost DK
Death Pact is pretty much a signature PVP spell since WOTLK, with decent utility in PVE
Same with Death's Advance, Anti-Magic Zone, etc, etc.
gr8 shitpost m8
>>338365286
Chaud, how about you fuck off and die in a hole?
Thanks.
>>338363781
>Akama and the Warden handle Illadin
>Tyrion downs Arthas
>Wrynn kills Onixyia
>Thrall deals the finishing blow to Deathwing
>Thrall kills Garrosh
>etc.
This is a really stupid trope and I wish it would just die. These OC doughnut steel marry sues are too much. It removes any sense of accomplishment.
>>338366334
They are letting it die. Instead, in Legion, your character is the OC doughnut steel character.
>>338362305
>a game is coming out that is a clone of a game without a strong player base after 8.5 years, and is considered one of the best multiplayer FPSs of all time
Wow, who would want to play that? Give me my call of duty, battlefield, or halo clone any day.
>>338366487
I'll believe it when I see it, when the player actually kills Sargeras or whoever the final boss is, and isn't cockblocked by Metzen's self-insert Thrall for yet another expansion
>>338366524
Meant "with a strong player base"
>>338366578
Thrall loses all his powers because they told him to fuck off because he cheated in the fight with Garrosh and passes Doomhammer to the Player Shaman before going into retirement.
Metzen isn't doing the writing for Legion if you couldn't tell.
>>338365007
>They're really not worse than the current garrisons, and they interfere a lot less with your gameplay.
personally i think they will be worse. they will offer the same lack of social interaction because its exclusive to faggots of your class and you wont be able to do anything relevant there but would still be required to sit there a lot because of order missions and whatnot. i just wished they would have axed the whole idea entirely and went back to forcing everyone into a hub. that's just too much development time for really fucking stupid features absolutely nobody wants.
>>338366662
Thank fucking god
sure i'll get it shill
one of the reasons i dont play d3 its the retarded non-stop grind you must do to get items . i'm sure i'll do it on wow when it can take 800 kills to get 1 mount
>>338365920
>removing anything is ever good
If anything they should have been made talents.
But you know what, fuck character customization, why? Because arena esports and world first raiding, which is all Ion fucking cares about.
If Ion never took over as head dev mid way through wrath we would probably have a path of exile style talent tree and way more world content by now.
>>338366724
>"I've come out of retirement, the call of adventure is too strong, now allow me to smite Sargeras with my newly regained Shamanistic might!"
>>338359126
>2010+6
>still playing this shit
TOP KEK
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>>338366840
Yep, its why Ion calls himself "Watcher" on the forums.
He litterally sits in raid instances and top tier arneas, fancying himself as a godlike dungeon master
>>338365920
Appropriate use of plague leech and blood tap is what separates good DKs from the bad. The removal of these two abilities, along with the simplification of the rune system (they're all death runes now), is going to make the death knight a really boring class to play.
>unholy looks fun
We're getting one extra ghoul. That's it. We're still not the necromancers we should be.
>no abominations
>no way of maintaining army of the dead
>no different dark transformations for different situations
>still no worgen monks
Fucking why
>>338366662
That's the first bit of good news I've heard out of this.
>he cheated in the fight with Garrosh
Didn't he channel the elements to do that though? If they didn't want to aid him, why enable him to channel their power in that instance in the first place?
>>338367220
Because Blizzard would have to update their animation kits.
>>338367243
>why enable him to channel their power in that instance in the first place?
Shamans can force spirits to help them (Kor'kron Dark Shamans for example), it just makes the spirits really buttmad.
Are BM monks still the most fun class? I haven't played since MoP
Why do they keep removing fun spells and abilities
>>338367371
Brewmaster is getting absolutely gutten in Legion
>Chi removed
>Can no longer completely cleanse stagger with Expel
>Brewmaster is literally being balanced around sitting a 40-60% HP, and if your healer doesn't understand this and heals you above that, your mitigation goes to absolute shit
>Mastery is being turned in more dodge because RNG is what tanks want right?
>>338367342
>t just makes the spirits really buttmad.
That's a whole process though. Shamans can't just snap to dark shamans in an instant and start compelling the elements to do whatever; there are rituals and bindings and all that shit. Thrall shouldn't have been able to just force them, on the spot, to do something they didn't support. I don't know why I'm still expecting the developers to care about lore and internal consistency, but there you go.
>>338366840
Blizzard has the obnoxious policy of drastically changing classes every single expansion. Cutting and changing abilities to the point you can't even recognize them anymore. This has been going on since WotLK. It's 10 levels of retardation.
Vanilla > BC was a great transition because classes played virtually the same, but had interesting new abilities.
>>338360726
Did you win that from the Wowhead giveaway last week?
>>338365701
>>338366840
Yeah Strike Knight has been my favorite class, wtf is Blizzard doing? Which was your favorite spell, Plague Strike, Frost Strike, Blood Strike, Heart Strike, Necrotic Strike, Festering Strike, Scourge Strike, Rune Strike, maybe Death Strike? Mine was Heavy Strike, also known as Obliterate.
Now shut the fuck up.
>>338367463
Class fantasy
Nothing makes you feel like you're playing a rogue like removing abilities they've had since vanilla
>>338366669
I 100% agree with you, it should've been scrapped totally. But the poster I originally replied to, said that this was worse that the current system, and if you've spent 2 seconds on the beta, you'd know that it just isn't true. This is the lesser of 2 evils.
>>338367895
Scourge Strike was GOAT
>>338367613
welp, there goes my preorder
>>338364530
I'm in a bit of the same boat
I'll still be getting the xpac because I've finally found a fun guild to raid with, but it's the first xpac I'm not getting the collector's edition for.
There's just nothing thematically interesting going on with the expansion itself
>More legion green bullshit after more than a fucking year of being stuck in the dark green, poorly lit HFC
>No new races, environments, or really anything we haven't seen before
Demon hunter tanks look fun, and I'm interested in the lore they're doing for a lot of the classes.
Hell, my main class is gonna have a blast mechanically and lore wise. But all of that's pretty divorced from the expansion theme
>>338359126
I won't. I played WoW until level 20 to get a Hearthstone hero, willing to give it a fair shot and I didn't find anything compelling enough to make me want to play itover or alongside FFXIV
>>338368068
>Demon hunter tanks look fun
They aren't. They're even more boring than DH DPS, and DH DPS only has like 12 buttons.
I preordered back in november 2015
I will not be playing Legion. Im not even going to get a refund, because I just dont care.
Games are so fucking shit now, Blizzard has been infected by the rest of the faggot gaming industry. Take Overshit and Shitstone for example.
>>338365701
Bitch all you want, Unholy is getting the spookmaster build and it's going to fucking rock
>pet micro is meaningful
>multiple viable builds with options to talent into heavy range
>necromancer spells a major part of your rotation instead of the fire and forget one button
The artifact looks like a ttyrofoam sword, but there's a couple of skins for it that are decent
>>338368056
>Scourge Strike was GOAT
Then GOOD NEWS! It's staying in Legion! You can continue doing the thing that does some damage when you press it. It interacts with FESTERING WOUNDS, which is pretty much a callback to how it used to work where it did more damage when you had your diseases up, only this time it REMOVES THEM like old Obliterate did! Wasn't that fucking FUN?
In all seriousness, it doesn't seem to be the same horrible mess launch Frost was, wounds are applied and consumed to produce a few different effects. It sounds nice, really.
>>338368267
noone cares /faggot/
Ryuu ga waga teki wo kurae
>>338368340
Overshit Blizz shill detected
>>338367071
>We're getting one extra ghoul. That's it. We're still not the necromancers we should be.
Go read what your artifact weapon does
And yes, you are getting abominations. Say hello to the double grip in pvp for 50 yard hooks
>>338368376
how dare u fucking address me and my overwaifu u fuckin weeb
im going to submit this post to mr and ms blizzard
>>338367613
I'm glad that someone told him to shut the fuck up and then fixed brewmasters in the next build.
It's nice to finally have a button to collect all those fucking ox orbs, damn things are fucking useless on a raid boss when you have to keep it still for the rest of your raid
>>338360889
Mistweaver, Holy Pally or Holy Priest. Healslut through and through
>>338368279
The talent for the second pet has been bugged for 6 months and is very likely to be removed, you do not have the option to talent into ranged because Epidemic has a 10 second cooldown as of the latest build, and Apocalypse is now a single button fire and forget ability.
>>338368497
RYUJIN NO KEN WO KURAE
>>338359126
>>338368543
WE DID IT REDDIT!
fuck off
tracer is cute
>>338360889
Death knight
Blood looks pretty interesting. A lot of the blood dk community are up in arms about it, but only because they won't be able to play it like a dps like you can now. Most of the level headed tanks in progression guilds seem to think it's pretty decent, if a bit clunky
Unholy seems to have universally well received feedback, especially compared to most other plate melee classes.
Frost looks boring, but what else is new.
And of course, lore wise it's going to be the best out of every other fucking class. Glad to be getting my boy Nazgrim back
>>338368601
>11/4/2038
>>338368152
>Blizz couldn't even bothered to make 3 separate specs for DH
I'm pretty excited to pick up my copy of Overwatch Origins who cares about this fucking WoW garbage that shit died like 7 years ago.
All you nerds angry about the WoW changes are just salty nerds who are too shit to cross-over to the more superior genre which is FPS.
Overwatch is literally going to surpass WoW in success and all you nerds can do is sit here going "m-m-muh n-n-n-nostalgia m-m-muh v-v-v-vanilla.
Time to move on nostalgifags and come to the superior gaming genre which is NVIDIA + FPS.
GTX 980 Ti user OUT!
>>338368826
>GTX 980 Ti user OUT!
>>338368826
This. I played vanilla, then Wrath, then retail, all in 2015 & 2016 and got bored as fuck. Times change.
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>>338368537
The problem is most likely that they still haven't fixed DK to just have a fucking normal pet instead of a summon with a pet bar. It's always been buggy as shit and they have adamantly refused to even bother throwing people at it to just fucking change it already. Did you know that back when corpse explosion was a real spell, if you mashed the fuck out of the button, sometimes it would make your ghoul blow itself up? SAD BUT TRUE
>>338368826
Meh, I like good open world MMOs
Too bad WOW fucked it up for all of us by becoming the gold standard while also single handedly fucking the genre.
WoW is shit and has been shit for years now. Legion will only succeed for a little bit because of the Illidan meme. After that it'll die off. WoWs on it's last days.
I wouldn't be surprised if we got a Vanilla server shortly after Legion.
>>338368537
Honestly, I'm take it or leave it on All Will Serve, but fair enough point.
Clawing Shadows is still a thing, and unholy probably has about the strongest ranged options out of all the melee classes(maybe ret has close? I haven't looked into them)
>Fire and forget
You're gonna need to make sure to spend at least two to three global cds to back max festering wounds on the target before you use apocolypse if you want to get the most out of it(assuming festering wound max count is still 8, might have changed)
>>338363597
Metzen approved. I don't mind lore characters killing big baddies but the quality of these comics was terrible.
>>338368936
DKs were bugged as shit when they first came out.
If I remember right, you could get yourself stuck after you died if the talent that would let you come back for a short time as a zombie bugged out and expired early
>>338363597
>we kill with lava and magic
>so do humans
We do? With lava? That's new.
>>338369308
>What is Lava Burst
>>338369356
not available to humans.
>>338369356
>Humans can get Lava Burst
>>338359812
>>338359812
TBC has the worst lore
>>338359126
Probably not t b h, raiding is all this game has left and it's gotten stale after doing it for so many years.
>>338359126
Already bought it and leveling an alt tank in case prot warriors suck ass.
>>338369824
Sounds like it's going to be more of the same. Artifact trait makes you think a little bit, so people hate it. Probably could use a buff numbers wise
>>338368068
>More legion green bullshit after more than a fucking year of being stuck in the dark green, poorly lit HFC
I don't know why there isn't an uproar about this. After spending all this time fighting against fel themed enemies, they throw an entire expansion and class themed around fel. Give it a fucking rest already.
>>338363597
Sweet Christ that's fucking bad.
>>338369894
Was more worried about the rage changes to be honest.
>>338369935
In reality, it's not going to be that bad up front. The zones are going to be some decent variety of green and diverse. It problem is going to be for the final part of all the zone storylines, it's going to involve the legion raining down and all kinds of fel corrupted bullshit. So it'll be even worse, because we'll have a taste of some fresh environments, only to be brought right back to the legion puke green.
The real kicker is that the first two raids seem like they'll be pretty different environment wise(emerald nightmare seems to have a lot of dark reds, but I figure there will be enough trees and different bits of nature shit to make it feel different) but the FINAL raid will be the tomb of sargeras, and there's not a single damn chance that it's not only going to be a poorly lit, legion color shitfest, but we'll also be stuck in there for another year and a half once again. That more than anything is probably going to be the kiss of death for WoW
>>338370134
Be warned, they're changing the formula again. You'll get rage generated from damage, but it'll be based on the damage your taking as a % of your max health. meaning that getting more stam on gear, using last stand, or HP trinkets will reduce your rage generated
>>338367071
>they're all death runes now
Are you for real? I refuse to believe that
>>338370357
What gets me about the Emerald Dream raid is that it's supposed to be Azeroth wholly unaffected by the mortal races, but one of the areas they showed in the alpha was just a shattered Thunder Bluff. Plus it's like Dragon Soul in that it's all disjointed and you just teleport from area to area.
>>338370465
I'm aware, that's why I'm worried. Can't believe they're going back to the shitty rage formula AGAIN.
>>338365565
Don't fucking do it, wtf is wrong with you??
What's going to be the weakest tank in Legion? I'll roll that
>>338370652
Currently Brewmaster or Blood DK so roll Paladin. They're obscenely OP right now so it's more likely than not that they'll go live completely broken then get nerfed into oblivion.
>>338370771
Brewmaster is doing ok in the current build, but the vision they outlined for them sounds like ass.
Right now, every tank is bitching and moaning about how they're doing, with the blood community throwing by far the biggest tantrum. The only exception is guardian, who are happy as hell to finally have a set of tank mechanics that aren't ass
>>338371175
>with the blood community throwing by far the biggest tantrum
You can hardly blame them considering how garbage Legion Blood is. All they needed to do was take WoD Blood, add Heart Strike, and give an RP generation that scales with Haste.
>The only exception is guardian
Guardian isn't getting major overhaul tier changes, just QoL and flavor stuff. You'll notice that the size of the tantrum is directly proportional to the amount of changes Blizzard is making to any given class/spec. It's like Blizzard blew their entire load of creativity on Shadow Priests then said "eh fuck it" with the rest of the specs.
