is this worth my time
>>338339030
yes
>>338339030
maybe
I don't know
If you play the multiplayer, custom modules or build modules with the toolset
If you just want to play the campaign, no
>>338339115
i dont know... can you repeat the question?
I think so.
>>338339030
Definitely. Skip the OC and move straight to the expansions. After that you get hundreds of well made custom modules to choose from.
>>338339050
>>338339087
>>338339115
>>338339119
>>338339147
>>338339172
>>338339030
The first few chapters are ok, but then it gets convoluted
Every dlc is fucking 10/10 thoughBtw how are you playing the game? It shits out on me even from the gog version on my windows 7
YOU'RE NOT THE BOSS OF ME NOW
YOU'RE NOT THE BOSS OF ME NOW
YOU'RE NOT THE BOSS OF ME NOW
>>338339030
How much is your time worth?
If you're already flying around the world in private jets banging supermodels, maybe not.
If you're on disability payments because you're too fat to fit through the front door then yes.
Base campaign sucks. Hordes of the underdark is bretty good though.
>>338339342
Get the 1.69 hot patch cuckboy
Non-meme answer ahoy.
The original campaign, probably not. It's a slapdash collection of fetch quests. Plays out as, "Hey, we need these four things. They're probably spread out in these four areas around this hub. Go get 'em." And then that's the same formula for the next two chapters, and most of the sidequests.
The expansion campaigns are better, you can start a new character in Shadows of Undrentide and continue it in Hordes of the Underdark, and that's a much better experience.
But where NWN shines is the player made modules. There's a ton out there, shouldn't be hard to find most recommended lists.
Also the character creation and progression is top notch. There's a lot of satisfaction to be had planning and levelling your character. You can easily reach 'tism levels of obsession over planning characters.
What makes the main campaign so bad?
>>338339553
It's nothing but fetch quests
>>338339553
Its bland just like the NWN2 OC
>>338339553
It's not a trainwreck, just not worth the time
Too many fetch quests and McGuffin collecting
Nathyrra was my first vidya crush lads
>>338339553
At lower levels you move and attack at a fucking snail's pace in NWN
Combine that with ultra generic quests and dialogue in the original campaign and you'll die of boredom
>>338339503
Gog diamond edition came with 1.69 for me. Now and then I get a crash during the 8 video logos you have to click through, but never a crash in game.
>>338339347
and your not so big
>Looking over my steam list to find a new gamefu.
>This one's been sitting in my library so long I don't even remember buying it.
>Oh well, give it a bash, if it's shit i'll just throw it in the garbage tab.
>34 hours in 5 days of playing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zNyuWryaRk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_PZ2x2_vPI
>>338339923
But she's even darker than a shitskin.
Yes.
So long as you remember: This is D&D 3rd. Don't fall for the initially strong fighters.
>>338339980
Set safemovie to 1 and compatibility mode for windows XP
Am I the only one who actually enjoyed the regular campaign?
I mean, yes, it's fetchquests, but that's just the basic instruction to get you to moving and exploring and shit. Who cares? There's tons of shit to find and do.
>>338340510
For me, it's not the worst thing ever. I played through it a couple of times. But once you've tried some player created modules, or even SoU and HoU, it pales in comparison. Pretty much the only memorable thing about the OC for me is the Aribeth character, and she's not particularly original.
The fetch quests really hurt it. Even the side quests boil down to, "there's four parts of a book in these four locations around the hub" and "there's four fugitives from justice to track down in these four locations around the hub."
>>338340805
I don't know, I liked SoU a lot less. Felt like they just mashed together three ideas that didn't fit the original game.
HotU was also a bit disconnected in itself, but overall fine enough.
>>338339980
This >>338340439 and use spacebar/enter to skip the videos rather than clicking, sometimes my UAC fucks up unless I do that.
>>338339923
>>338340142
Drow are made for love!
>>338340178
>So long as you remember: This is D&D 3rd. Don't fall for the initially strong fighters.
Honestly, does it really matter? Aside from how strong Clerics and Druids are, you can cut through the campaigns or any community modules as easily with a fighter-type character as you would a mage. Hell, for someone who's not used to nwn or D&D, I'd say it was probably easier to fuck up building a mage than a fighter.
>>338339030
Yes. Main Campaign is decent but, not spectacular. Expansions get progressively better stories.
>>338342695
>Honestly, does it really matter?
In some spots... yes.
I mean, you can bash through as a fighter, too.
I did it on my first run.
Then I built a sorcerer, pushed myself through the first chapter, and then went to town. Easy mode engaged, and I'm even all pretty and shit.
A wizard is harder, I agree. It's more of an advanced build, and offers a wider option range, and higher ceiling... but compared to pen&paper, it's not as worth it, compared to sorc. And sorcerers are hard to fuck up.
>>338342695
just get a blank .bik file and replace the offending videos in the movies dir, they all have logo in the name.
>>338339030
Yeah, the expansions are great and there's tons of modules to download because the community revived the old NWN Vault.
>>338339030
Here's a good resource for NWN mods for better graphics, UI, and AI for your henchmen.
http://lilura1.blogspot.com/p/nwn-utility-visual-mods.html?
>>338342935
Yeah, I agree that sorcerers are a better choice than wizards for a new player, but couldn't you still fuck up a sorc by choosing the wrong spells?
I'm genuinely curious, Idon't like Vancian casting so Itried taking a Wizard through the expansions and got bored of it, tried a Sorcerer build and it was more fun. But don't endgame enemies have heaps of health and magic resistance, so you end up using Missile Storms for everything?
the sexy time modules can be good.
>>338344119
>but couldn't you still fuck up a sorc by choosing the wrong spells
No.
That's the beauty of the sorcerer - the learned spells aren't final. You can change on levelup. Not sure if at every level, but generally you can.
> But don't endgame enemies have heaps of health and magic resistance, so you end up using Missile Storms for everything?
In HotU, yes. Deep in epic levels you run into the good old "capped spellpower" problem anyways, and only save or suck spells are worth it anymore.
On normal levels, nah. You have enough feats and boosts to overcome it easily.
Is Swordflight really way better than BG2 or is it just a meme forced by one person on RPGcodex?
>>338344119
Oh, if you want to bash through as a fighter at some point again, pick human for no multiclass penalty, do so until you have the essentials, get 8 lore, and throw in one level sorcerer. Then go red dragon.
Over the next 10 levels you get:
Breath weapon, AC bonus, +2 INT/CON/CHA, +8 STR (yes, EIGHT), darkvision, immunity: sleep, fire, paralysis
fucking gamebreaker for a melee char
>>338344132
ADWR is legitimately fun to sneak around in. Part 2 had some bullshit encounters though that I just cheated past.
>>338340116
That's what happened to me with Baldur's Gate.I still haven't finished ToB yet
>>338342935
Or, you could buy the belt of greater swordmanship and laugh as 98% of the enemies can't hurt you, even with a critical hit.
BUILD DOES NOT MATTER! I was some fucked up 12 Fighter/3 Ranger when I finished the original Campaign. I don't know how I did it.
>>338340510
I loved the main campaign, dunno why people bash over it
I mean, i explored, i talked to people, get some quests, do stuff, laugh at possible responses i could do, kill people for more exp
There were tons of secret quests that were fun
>>338339030
Yes.
>>338344389
>>338345024
Huh, that's pretty cool then. I knew Bards could swap out spells at some levels, but not Sorcerers. And if it's only at the end of HotU that they start having trouble I might have tofinisha casting playthrough afterall.
>RDD
Yeah, I remember using Dragon Disciple with my Fighters/Paladins for my first couple of playthroughs because I knew how gamebreaking they were from NWN2
These days I tend to just straight Paladin builds for most fighters, though, unless I'm playing a mod as a fighter/rogue or paladin/rogue
>>338345490
>ADWR is legitimately fun to sneak around in. Part 2 had some bullshit encounters though that I just cheated past.
ADWR is one of my favourite modules, I haven't found another one yet with that level of detail paid to rogue skills and just exploration. A properly build Princess is entirely capable of soloing Part Two though, with UMD and a focus on Dex and Tumble you can become essentially unhittable
>tfw cut my way through Rizzen and the entire population of his city
>>338347305
I'm absolutely shit at building characters so I just kept getting destroyed.
>>338347915
Did you have HiPS from Shadowdancer at least?
The easiest way to build a good Rogue for community modules (ADWR and Bastard of Kosigan in particular) is to start with Rogue for the skill points, take one or two levels of Fighter early for proficiencies, BAB and feats, then level Rogue until your skills are high enough not to worry (with a level of Shadowdancer when it becomes available, or two if you hate it being dark all the time and want darkvision). Then, once you move into double-digit levels, start taking more Fighter than Rogue for attack and feats.
I think I ended up with a Rogue 13/Fighter 10/SD 1 that was great; Rogues are really good defensively because they get UMD (which is insanely good, since it gives you access to scrolls without wasting a level as a caster as well as class-specific gear like Boots of the Sun Soul) and Tumble for extra AC, not to mention specialist feats at higher levels like Slippery Mind, Improved Evasion and Skill Mastery.On the other hand, you do have to know what you're doing, so it's not very player-friendly
>>338349449
I went ranger instead which I think was a big mistake
>>338349715
Ranger's alright (it's essentially free dual-wield and ambidexterity) but it's not as good as Fighter later on due to lack of bonus feats; you've gotta know what you're doing with it.
On the other hand, it fits a lot better lore-wise, so that's a plus.
>>338347305
>ADWR is one of my favourite modules, I haven't found another one yet with that level of detail paid to rogue skills and just exploration
my biggest problem with ADWR was that it is a module with a lot of running around the same place and it has no way to get haste equipment, thats a real crime against humanity desu, I actually cheated in a pair of haste boots because I got so bored of all the running
>>338350528
Part 2 gives you haste boots. In part 1 you can basically fast travel through the sewer system.
>>338350579
Also my biggest problem was it almost never rewarded you for exploration. I scoured all the outdoor areas for interesting shit and found nothing.
It was okay when it was released, it's pretty tedious though, especially in the beginning. Story is alright, gameplay is meh. Second expansion is quite cool, first one sucks.
>>338339050
>>338339087
>>338339115
>le reddit trifecta
fuck off
>>338350736
SoU is fun too. Gets better once you get memekin.
>>338339030
The original campaign of the first one is not
the original campaign of the two expansions are yes
the modules are definitely yes
>>338350952
Both games have shitty OCs with better expansions. And both have good modules but NWN1 has more modules for it and more populated servers today.
>>338347305
I wanna play a princess, please give princess build and I will play the entire module
>>338350639
It doesn't give you XP, sure, but investigating is a reward in itself, anon. What about all those hidden goodies you can find in Bentacuria? It falls away in Pt II (because update never ever) but it's still kinda fun, likekilling a green dragon
>>338350952
What's this from?
>>338351860
darkness over daggerford I think
I actually enjoyed soz far more tha hotu
I just played through SoT and HoU ending with a 23monk/4fighter. With haste robes and a base 60% speed increase from monk i felt like I was speed running the game. I recked pretty much every enemy except for the final boss of HoU, that fucker has insane damage resistance. I loved how you get to learn about the bloodwar and visit the planes in HoU, it brought back great planescape torment memories.
I would definitely recommend playing the expansions over the OC if you were only going to play one.
also once monk gets to level 20 they become an outsider and get glowy eyes, its awesome.
Can I fuck a female dragon or any other monsters with my superior human dick?
>>338351035
>He didn't like the nwn2 OC
Remove rivvil
>>338351440
Coming up!
>>338352240
Thanks, I've never played that.
I like them both, but I much prefer the first chapter of SOU and a lot of the little side conversations like that to the main plot of the last chapters
>>338353402
Fuck off drowfag. It's already established you have shit taste, liking the OC doesn't change anything.
>>338353391
Tales of Arterra is best mod because you can have a qt succubus gfand a qt half-angel gf, though sadly not both at the same time
It's also just an excellent mod in general.
>>338339030
skip nwn1 altogether and go straight to nwn2, you won't regret it.
>>338353539
He will regret skipping the better game.
>>338353539
Literally this, CLEAVE AND TEAR
>>338353509I can understand why most people don't like the OC, but I like the humour of it, and what I can't understand is people thinking the nwn1 OC is better
>>338339030
I didn't care much for it after leaving Neverwinter. The environment sucks ass.
>>338339030
The official expansions and some modules made by the community are good.
The original campaign is shit.
>>338351440
Human, of course.
For qt pettanko Princess:
>STR 10 DEX 15 CON 8 WIS 8 INT 16 CHA 16
For sexy thick Princess:
>STR 10 DEX 14 CON 14 WIS 8 INT 14 CHA 16
Take your first level as Rogue, take a few points in Pickpocket and then forget about it. Focus on Persuade, Lore, Open Lock, Disable Device, Hide, Move Silently, Search, UMD and Tumble (try and keep UMD, Persuade and Tumble maxed, and Open and Disable close to maxed. It's important to get Hide 10 and Move Silently 8 ASAP but once you unlock Shadowdancer and HIPS it becomes less important)
If you're a pettanko take Two-weapon Fighting and Ambidexterity at first level, if you're thick take TWF and Dodge (pick up Ambidextirty once you get your Dex to 15 and taken Mobility).
Dump all your points into DEX on levelup
Optionally: cheat your CHA to 18 so you can be a real pretty Princess and/or make Perform a class skill and chuck a couple points in there for flavour.
Take Fighter as your second level for free proficiency, dump all the skill points you get on Fighter levels into Discipline until it's about 10; save any extra for your Rogue levels. Take Weapon Finesse with the bonus feat.
Take Rogue as a third level, and take Dodge/Mobility; then Fighter again and take Mobility or Ambidexterity.
Stick to Rogue levels from now (taking one level of Shadowdancer as soon as it becomes available); dumping all your points into DEX and try and pick up Improved Crit and maybe Weapon Focus for Rapier.
1/2
>>338351440
>>338354975
Don't focus on dual-wielding all the time right away, especially if you're not landing any hits (extra attacks is most useful for extra Sneak Attacks) and use the best weapons you can, with a Light off-hand weapon, but over time try to pick up a good Rapier for your main hand.
As you move into pt 2, and your Rogue skills are sufficient/you get into more party-focused combat where you can't just Hide, start taking more Fighter levels and focusing on dual-wielding rapiers. Stick with Light armour or clothes for that massive DEX bonus (the Dress of the Black Archmagi is good if you have the UMD to wear it); between DEX, items, Boots of the Sun Soul and your armour/dress you should be OP as fuck.
Good luck anon! Have fun.
Pia a best.
>>338344389
>That's the beauty of the sorcerer - the learned spells aren't final. You can change on levelup. Not sure if at every level, but generally you can.
NWN1 lets you change as many spells as you want on each levelup. NWN2 only lets you change one or two spells every now and then, which is one of many reasons NWN2 sucks.
>>338344119
>I'm genuinely curious, I don't like Vancian casting
Don't hide it in spoilers, anon. It's nothing to be ashamed of. Vancian casting is bad, which is why literally no systems use it besides D&D.
>Tfw I can never finish SoZ cos I keep making female harems then reset about 6 hours in because I don't like my team
>>338353524
I was hoping for a romance with the half-drow warrior woman, but alas, no such luck, even though she flirts with you like crazy.
My handsome but frail sorcerer needs a strong woman who will charge in and make sure her boytoy is safe to destroy things with missile storms.
>>338353539
Don't listen to this guy. NWN1 is much better, despite the graphics and the lack of direct companion control. It also has about a million more modules for it than NWN2 does.
>tfw no modern NWN equivalent
>tfw the only dev that makes highly moddable RPGs is Bethesda, and their tools are shit for making quests
>>338357291
divinity is as close as it gets
>>338356019
NWN2 also nerfs Haste. It doesn't let you cast spells faster anymore.
>>338342695
>Drow are made for love!
And Nathyrra is open to a threesome with you and the other love interest,Aribeth.
>>338342695
>Drow are made for love!
I wish there was a full-fledged alternate storyline to switch sides and join the Valsharess.
>tfw no evil femdom romance option
>>338353539
But if you skip NWN1, the reveal in Tomb of Betrayers in NWN2 won't be as fun.
>>338357405
Weren't CD Projekt going to release a full toolset for Witcher 3, then went back on their word and decided to withhold the toolset and sell DLC instead? Some based RPG devs they turned out to be.
>>338359618
That reveal doesn't make sense.Fenthickdidn't really betray Neverwinter,hewas tricked, just like everyone else was.
>>338360045
That's why it's so funny. Not Aribeth, not even Desther, but fucking Fenthick.
>>338360115
One of Obsidian's many fuckups in NWN2.
>>338356649
I know! She spends all that time teasing you about teaching you things privately, as well, and then it turns out she actually meant teaching you. She would've made the perfect foil to Ev and Persey, as well.
I was also disappointed there wasn't a threesome option to end up with them both, it would've made perfect sense from a character perspective. Still, nothing beats how qt Persey gets when you take her into temples (and then defend her from the people inside). Paladin x Succubus is best pairing.
>>338358523
See, built for love!
That conversation is great. Their whole characters are great, really.
>ywn adventure the planes with a gorgeous Arcane Trickster Drow and a permanently youthful lady Paladin
>>338359492
I feel you, anon, but don't you want a caring Drow mistress to gently Dom/switch with you instead? Nath is a top-tier love interest.If they had an evil campaign, though, that's what I'd want.
Why are there no good mods focusing on the Drow? In fact, why are there not more dominant female love interests in general?
>>338339553
Low exp rate, tenth of normal.
>>338360115
>>338360323
That's what I love about it, though, it's the kind of call-back that would just perplex the vast majority of people who saw it. Good old Obsidian.
>>338360369
>I feel you, anon, but don't you want a caring Drow mistress to gently Dom/switch with you instead? Nath is a top-tier love interest.
Good point. That would definitely be preferable. Being sexually dominant and aggressive might even be a good way for her to act out her darker side without slipping back into evil like she's worried about.
>In fact, why are there not more dominant female love interests in general?
I don't know, but it's very disappointing.
I just started iwd2, it's based on 3.0E, but seems different from nwn 2bh. I can't for some reason change spells for sorc after lvlup. And bards - do they get new spell after lvlup or i should scribe scrolls for that?
>>338360369
>I feel you, anon, but don't you want a caring Drow mistress to gently Dom/switch with you instead? Nath is a top-tier love interest.
That's true, but it's just kind of disappointing that the game is so explicit about the Valsharess' aggressive, predatory seduction and doesn't let you follow through with it. It's kind of the same problem with the drow from Tales of Arterra. I mean, she calls you a "delicious morsel" the first time you meet her, for fuck's sake. Writers shouldn't tease me like that.
>>338360885
What's the highest level you can get in OC? If my memory serves me right, I barely managed to score 18.
>>338361738
>2bh
>lvlup
Stop that.
Sorcerers' spell choices are permanent by tabletop D&D rules, so that's what you're stuck with. Bards should get spells automatically when gaining a level.
>>338361783
There are some tricks to maximize exp, like getting fixed exp for quest as later as possible, playing with shitty ECL class.
http://nwn.wikia.com/wiki/Effective_character_level
I usually finish it with level 17.
>>338361930
What's wrong with that?
>Sorcerers' spell choices are permanent
Good to know this while i'm in the beginning yet.
>>338361781
>I mean, she calls you a "delicious morsel" the first time you meet her, for fuck's sake. Writers shouldn't tease me like that.
Then there's the part where you help her out with something and she says "If we had more privacy, I'd kiss you," and there's no option to say "I don't mind having an audience" and have her push you against the wall and kiss the fuck out of you.
>played base campaign a long time ago
>got stupid fucking mad at the deadend quest fate of fenthick and aribeth
>thought neverwinter should be burned to the ground, along with its stupid moron asshole king
>its over a decade later
>i still feel the same way
>recently burned down neverwinter in a 5th ed D&D game because fuck that place
neverwinter a shit
Can I play NW1 and 2 with a friend? Like Co-op'ing the campaigns and shit?
>not playing official main campaign
>playing fanfic tier modules
lel
>>338362998
I hope this is bait.
I only got this game for A Dance with Rogues
It was worth it
>>338362862
Not sure about nwn2, but the first game has coop.
>>338363251
Have you tried other smut modules?
>>338339030
Yes, if you like good old gaem
No, if you don't like rotten arse gaem.
I'm lovin'in it btw.
>>338360369
>In fact, why are there not more dominant female love interests in general?
Come to think of it, are there *any* dominant female love interests in games?
>>338363521
Miranda Lawson
Viconia, probably.
>>338362671
Neverwinter just can't help but get burned down continuously.
>>338363521
kinda?
>>338363695
I'd say Jaheira was more dominant.
>>338363695
Miranda isn't really dominant, just a bitch who slowly becomes less of a bitch. And doesn't Viconia's romance specifically require you to frequently take charge or she'll lose interest?
Any other NWN1 modules that are not ADWR in which you are a girl and get raped?
I dont want to rape I want to get raped. As a girl.
>>338364092
Demonheart, gladiatrix.
