What weapon has dissapointed you in Dark Souls 3 the most so far?
I'm dissapointed by the Soldering Iron from those Jailers in Irithyll Dungeon.
It's supposed to prevent people from using Estus when they get hit by the weapon for a short time, it even gives them a Aura/Brand on them. Yet they can still use Estus.
>soldering iron
I don't think you know what soldering is.
According to some, it does block estus usage for all of 3 seconds
>>338324679
Friend asks what weapon I'm holding in my offhand tell him it's the Soldering Iron
>that's not a soldering Iron
>>338324679
its the weapons literal name
All of them. They're all boring shit I already used in the other games.
>>338324679
>implying I named the fucking thing
http://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/Soldering+Iron
these niggas
at least dual wielding the black flamestone daggers in DaS2 gave you an incredibly fast moveset with straightsword-tier range
>>338324413
thats its name
>>338324413
It's probably a mistranslation since it lowers estus healing, but it doesn't block it.
>>338324413
>any shotel
>description still says it damages past shields
>they don't
Also literally any frost or poison weapon. Worthless effects.
>>338325234
STRONG attacks just like they did in the first game
>>338325285
Well that's worthless in PvP then.
>>338324413
I'm not disappointed in weapons, most of them are viable in one way or the other, but I'm disappointed in other shit related to combat.
>Fucking poise
>No powerstance
>Can't even dual wield regular weapons
>Invasions in general
I'm amazed how they still manage to fuck up on their 10000th souls game, and a minor nitpick, I miss the flashy backstabs from 2, they looked nice.
>>338324413
I kinda wanted a cowboy outfit just so I can pvp with this thing as Doug Dimma Domme
>>338324879
flavor text says it blocks estus healing, but the tips say it simply reduces the effects of healing
very consistent
>>338325431
>flashy backstabs
>give your bro a pat on the back and then wave your sword around behind him
>>338325439
Doug Dimma Domme? Owner of the Dimmsdale Dimmadome?
>>338325431
Invasions have been fucked in every Souls game except Demon's. Hell DS3 has the best in terms of technical details
>DS1
>connectivity issues up the ass, invading takes forever even on PS3/post-steamworks patch PC
>Darkmoon invasions don't really work at all
>DS2
>lel cracked orbs
>both blues and reds don't actually gain anything at all from invading, there is literally no reason to invade for either aside from blues needing tokens to do duels which are more easily gained from co-op since their covenants were broken
>BB
>can't invade in most areas unless they're trying to summon AND don't know where the bell ringer is
>DS3
>prioritizes people with phantoms too heavily
>>338325536
At least they were better than this coockie cutter bland animations from 3, but again, just a really tiny nitpick.
>>338325321
Is this your first souls game faggot?
>>338325321
>Well that's worthless in PvP then.
Not really. I mean, anyone that turtles is most likely a shitter, so it should be easy to get a few strong attacks off them.
>>338325536
>it's from das2 so it has to be shit no matter what!
>>338325812
Nah, they weren't, they looked like shit and the hornet ring animations are 20x better than the best ones from DS2
>>338324413
Almost all INT based weapons. They either need some points in Faith or are better suited for physical/pyromancer builds. I just want pure sorcery, man, I don't want any of that gay miracle shit.
>>338325864
It has to be shit because it looks like fucking garbage, are you fucking blind? The only good ones in DS2 were the great hammer animations
>>338325878
hornet ring gives weapons different animations?
>>338326002
only against other players or npcs
>>338325495
Welcome to Souls, where nobody gives a fuck about the game's writing.
>>338325946
Int got fucked over in general. The Int/Faith thing from Hex and Pyro will always fuck over either Int or Faith now. It sounds like a cool idea on paper but holy shit it just doesn't work.
>>338325878
>My opinion is fact
Nah, if you think so sure whatever gets you going buddy, but there was way more variety in 2, and I liked it.
>>338325431
>flashy backstab
I'm pissed that they didn't keep bloodborne backstab even though they still have the held strong attack in the game.
>>338326202
I've seen magic hit crazy hard in pvp. I was fucking around with the golden crest shield trying to parry some random mage who invaded me magics. I got hit by a heavy greater soul arrow and it did 870 damage on me. I still don't know how
>>338325439
Blackhand hat has a westerly vibe
>>338324413
This thing. I went through the whole game anxious to get it so I could shoot holy light out of my sword and then I got it and learned it didn't actually scale with Faith at all.
>there's no miracle that lets you buff your weapon to drop timed bombs like cathedral knights do
>can't get snekman wall hack axe-on-a-chain either
>>338326002
It's barely noticeable in 3, 1 has a way better looking hornet stab.
>tfw using the raw astora straight sword +2 and invading people in the first area of the game
This sword is OP as fuck.
>>338326580
what? both in 1 and 3 it changes the animations to those from demon's souls, they're absolutely the same
>>338326002
Only against players/NPCs
It replaces them with the more brutal Demon's Souls animations like in DS1
>>338324413
goddamn it I want this sword to be good, even maxed it out to +10 but its still crap.
>>338327175
I've never used hornets ring so I have no idea what to expect. is it just back stabs or will repostes work?
>>338327042
Not really, the parries are the same, but the backstabs are slightly different, 1 and 3 have a variation with big weapons, in 1 goes 2 vertical slashes, in 3 it goes horizontal then only slightly vertical, 1 was way more brutal.
>>338324413
Winged Knight twinaxes
>>338327298
It changes backstabs and ripostes, yeah. Ripostes with great weapons are especially satisfying.
>>338327228
its that muti type damage, what sucks even more is if you infuse it with an element it gets even fucking weaker
greatbows.
They're ok I guess.
>>338327489
Why does multi-type damage suck? I keep forgetting the details.
>>338325824
If you try to land a strong attack without some sort of trickery the other player will just punish you with a quick one.
>>338325816
Looks like it's yours.
>>338327661
Has to go threw three different types of defenses.
>>338327661
you get a flat resistance to each type so it drops your low elemental damage to almost nothing
>>338327661
it's split up among different resistances
instead of doing 200 - 25 damage with a regular weapon you do 100 - 25 + 100 - 25 damage with a split weapon
>>338327661
Lets say your weapon does 100 and they have 50 defense, you'd deal 50.
Now let's say it does 50 physical and 50 fire and they have 50 defense and fire defense, (50-50)+(50-50)=0
>>338327676
The shotel has only ever gone around shields with it's strong attack you dumb motherfucker. It was like that in DeS Dark souls 1 and 2
>>338327661
The defense stat (not the absorption) is a damage threshold of sorts so having a lot of types of low damage is a lot worse than a large amount of one damage type, even if that large amount is a lot lower than the totals of the other types.
Demon Fists. The moment i saw that they were in the game I decided to use them. Right now I''m doing a Demon Fists run and bum-rushed Lothric Castle to upgrade them to +4, and even still they aren't terribly strong. I can't even beat Deacons of the Deep with them.
All I wanted from this game was everything it already is, plus the variety of viable weaponry that DaS2 had.
Instead I got Straight Sword Souls 3 (oh and Estocs)
>3 Scythes in the game
>2 are trash, and 1 is slightly better but also inflicts bleed on you overtime you hit something with it
>All whips are worthless except for the Witch's Locks because of it's weapon art
I get that it's difficult to balance weapons, but you didn't need to make straight swords the objective best weapons in the game and hang everything slightly unorthodox out to dry
>>338328785
>Whips being useful when theres fucking armor
Nigga why would you be able to feel a whip under plate
>>338325495
Yeah the souls games are filled with stupid bullshit like that
Dark Souls 1 had that fucking ring that said it regenerated health when it fucking didn't, waste of a starting item
>>338328938
>Muh realism
Fuck off, this is a game, there's no reason to limit the ammount of fun from a fucking game.
>>338328785
I would've given whips longer range and faster attack time. Make them the ultimate poke weapon.
>>338329132
What the fuck is the point of armor if it doesn't do anything then?
>>338325779
>DS3
>prioritizes people with phantoms too heavily
This is honestly the worst part. I don't mind the occasional 3v1, in a fair system it would be part of the risk. Bumping into a full team every once in a while should happen.
3v1 EVERY time, though..
>>338329204
Fashion because poise is working as intended.
>>338329204
Reducing the damage, not making them completely fucking useless.
>>338328938
whip is really good actually, if it's anything like it was in DaS 1 it is unparryable that AND it has a great WA that has the most melee range of any attack PLUS it goes through shields
>>338329251
well, it will die off a little when the game's been out for a while. Less people playing would mean there won't be a million signs down all the time.
>>338329289
Nigger whips have no down side besides their low damage out put even with that they still do decent damage and can move up to good damage if your fighting a naked man or a guy in cloth
>it's just straight up worse than the spiked mace
So can someone fucking explain to me why the fuck schythes are the ONLY weapon that get damage fythes have to suffer like this.all-off close range? Spears do BONUS damage at the very tip, But still does good damage close range.
It's fucking stupid how schythes have to suffer like this.
>>338329436
*output
*you're
Don't call anyone else a nigger if you're illiterate yourself, you fucking retard.
>if your fighting a naked man or a guy in cloth
Because that happens a lot right? Fuck off, having 180 base damage is absolutely garbage.
>>338329689
My GOD my net is stupid.
So can someone fucking explain to me why the fuck schythes are the ONLY weapon that get damage fall-off at close range? Spears do BONUS damage at the very tip, But still does good damage close range.
It's fucking stupid how schythes have to suffer like this.
>>338329639
It's good for a Smough cosplay on a budget
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwsG0zo0xxg
>>338329639
agreed
I was trying to do a priest turned warrior character and this weapon was perfect but the damage is such shit.
>>338324679
>wanting this badly to sound smart over the internet
>>338326457
It's weird how many magic weapons there are in this game that don't really scale with either magic stat.
>>338329689
You're just whacking the guy with a stick up close. I'd like it if some attacks had specific followups. Like your light and hard might be two different attacks, but if you do light and then hard, the hard attack is different. For spears it could be pulling back after a swing that leaves the blade behind them for more damage.
Also
>get real close to a guy, stab my spear all the way through him
>this does less damage than poking him a little from three feet away
ok. just remove sweet and sour spots.
>tfw spearfag
>tfw spears suck
>>338329639
Are you implying that the Spiked Mace is bad? Because you're sorely mistaken..
>>338329837
How much fucking base damage do you want on a nomral whip? They aren't very damaging. They are meant to inflict pain yes but only skin level it tears nerves it is not meant to kill people. You kill them via shock with whips witch works out to killing them with bug bites game play wise. It's called balanced. They have long range fast recovery unparriable. If they were to turn up the damage the whips would have to lose something in return.
>>338329957
>damage is such shit
if i can kill turtlers with a soldering iron you can kill a shitter with yorshka's spear famalam
>>338330067
>for spears
I meant for scythes.
>>338329957
>The long animation doesnt even buff the damage
>>338330120
I feel it
>>338330128
I'm saying there's no reason to use the mallet when the spiked mace exists, dipshit
>>338330120
Charge is one of the absolute best weapon arts in the entire game though
>>338329295
none of that matters. the damage is so bad that it just leaves you open to get killed.
you are a zero threat and it takes people with zero knowledge of whips little time to discover it. people who already know are going to wreck your shit.
>>338330153
victories do come to the patient but when you're constantly fighting gankers there's no time
>>338329837
Heh good one, you almost had to admit you were wrong but you caught some typos, good catch now you don't have to respond
>>338330225
like other than the santier's spear has a spear ever been good in a souls game?
>>338330301
I've yet to have it be usefull
>>338330249
Ok. Well good then.
Carry on.
Not a huge fan of the heavy maces perseverance skill since its near impossible to catch someone after you use it.
>>338330151
Anything else would be a better sacrifice. Whips do shit damage. It doesn't matter at all that that's realistic, making whips completely worthless isn't good balance. Just buffing the damage might make them too good, yeah, so what I expect from to do is put some fucking care into designing and balancing their weapons. Why even give someone a weapon that's designed to do little damage because that's how it is in real life? If whips can't kill people, don't put it in your fucking game where all you do is kill things.
>>338330376
The Demon's Spear was an overpowered weapon in DS1
>>338329639
It's kind of a shame that the only good Great Hammer is the Great Club.
I love Great Club, but it'd be nice to have a bit of variety.
>>338330120
Dude you arent trying hard enough.
Quality build + Resins = Any weapon is viable.
This build with the fucking Workers Pitchfork gets 392AR and 482 WITH a fire resin.
Don't knock it 'til you try it.
>>338325638
That's right, Doug Dimmadome, owner of the Dimmsdale Dimmadome!
>>338329639
Pissed off at how shitty this is. Ruined my Mario cosplay.
It's a branding iron.
Also, it works fairly well. It's not a strong weapon by any means but the Jailers health drain coupled with the ridiculous stun this thing has can pretty devastating.
>>338330151
Again ''Muh realism'' fuck your logic you shit, who cares about it being pictured like real life, this is f-a-n-t-a-s-y, a fucking game, it's job is to be fun, if I find a weapon fun I shouldn't be punished by it.
>It's called balanced
*Balance, nice google check retard, balance would mean making it viable but not OP, which is not the case, whips are slow and way too predictable, the damage is garbage, the only things they have going is that they can't be parried and some reach, but they are almost worthless if you compare them to a spear, they don't need to lose anything at all.
>>338330587
>Simple Farmer
I like it.
![sellsword_twinblades[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/ukyAroq.png "sellsword_twinblades[1].png")
this weapons are fucking trash
>start new sellsword character
>first hollow enemies die in one hit with R1
>hit with both attacks with L1
>they do not die
>L1 is slower, does less damage, costs the same stamina, has less hitstun, and has a worse hitbox than R1
It's so stupid, this weapon is better if you just hold it in one hand and pretend it's a scimitar. The weapon art is decent but not even especially good. Literally the ONLY thing it's good for is Bleed, but if you're going for bleed the grave warden twinblades are way better.
Double weapons in general are all shit in Dark Souls 3, with the sole exception of the drumsticks
>>338330534
You are so hung up on the whips lowish base damage it's like your forgetting it can get A scaling plus you are ignoring the facts you can hit people from a range that they can't hit you at all. The whip has the longest range the only thing that stands a chance melee wise is a fucking pike class weapon to get in range. If it had damage range and being unparriable everyone would be using it.
>>338330657
You dont use it the same way the enemies do dipshit, And were talking about using it as a player, The fire damage is garbage, The scaling is dogshit and its range is pathetic for a spear type.
I'm thinking of trying a faith build again after giving up on my last.
Should I just completely ignore miracles and focus on faith weapons?
>>338330120
Use a quality pike, buff it, use the leo ring, use the pontiff's right eye, git gud
>>338330562
Spiked Mace and Morne's Hammer are good too, but require specific builds to bring out their potential
>>338330851
Bleed, my friend. Those two L1 hits count as two separate bleed hits.
>>338331007
He mentioned bleed. Read, nigga.
>>338330851
>He hasnt used the Twin Axes
>He didnt use the Twintanas
>He never got his hands on Gotthardts
Alot of the twin weapons are god tier if done right.
>>338330120
i cried when noSilver Knight Spear.
Shit was so cash in DaS. The 1 handed strong attack would be nice to use against gankers
>>338331007
If you're using a bleed build then you would be using the gravewarden twinblades instead, and you still wouldn't bother with the L1 because the spin attack will trigger bleed instantly
>>338325536
Wow that accurately describes any heavy weapon backstab in 3, but not half the ones in 2, great job fuckwit. I wish I could kick your knee out and lay the fucking smack down on a bitch like you with a great hammer like I could in 2
>>338330851
Hollow Grave Wardens with rouge isn't that bad
but i gotta agree
>>338330534
You can push the whips damage up pretty good 40 dex sharp whip flynn ring can get it's ar to high 300s. That's pretty solid for a whip class weapon or you can go chaos witchs locks like my friends pyro build has and break 600ar with it.
>Go for a spot of pvp at the start of Irithyll
>faggots unironically using straight swords on their red sign marks
Like hell I'm going to summon your ass. Give me someone with a unique weapon, or something less broken.
>>338330851
Half the twin weapons are really good, the sellsword twinblades and dancer's are ass but the rest are at least decent, some are god tier like the maracas and the Einlanzers
>>338330896
Are we? Was that specified? I don't know, man, but I've literally never seen a single person using this weapon online, so bitching about is kinda moot. As an enemy weapon which is used against you it can be pretty effective. It basically just stuns you, making attacking or healing impossible for a short period.
Also, after reading though the thread AFTER replying, From are fucking stupid for calling it a soldering iron. It's very clearly a branding iron. Not only from the way it looks but also the way the Jailers use it.
>>338330880
see
>>338330312
have you ever actually tried to pvp with a whip? it fucking blows.
if they hyper armor or even trade a blow with you, it's fucking over.
i think whip is for pyromancers. alone it is really bad, but complimented with magic it is decent.
Mannakin Claws SUCK
>>338330851
>>338331174
>>338331007
r1 l2 r2 faggots. They can murder whole gank squads in on spin combo for 1300+ damage
>>338324413
Dancer's Enchanted Blade
Why is the L2 so useless
>>338330361
>Ignoring the rest of the comment
Back to you, buddy.
>>338331108
I've used all those weapons
>twin axes
worse than a single axe, the spin attack sucks because it's too slow and doesn't stunlock properly
>twinkatanas
worse in every way than a single katana
>gottardts
okay those are actually pretty good
so pretty much for twin weapons, we have
bleed gimmick weapon (grave warden) and Gottards as the only decent ones. The rest are mediocre
I personally had fun with the drumsticks but they're still really damn weak
>>338325495
blocking it would reduce the effect... to zero.
seems consistent to me.
>>338331290
This. By far the most disappointing weapon in Souls history.
>>338326457
having sean bean as ds character is kind of fitting
>>338331120
They even gave the SK weapons weapon arts, but they didn't let us get them. Why.
>>338326538
the lack of chain based weapons has been disappointing
>>338331535
a kusari gama in a Souls game would be so fucking cool
>>338331406
Twinaxes hit like a fucking truck, are you crazy? They are far from shit.
>>338331257
Fashion souls, anon. Gotta parry very fashionably
>>338326457
If it's any consolation, your dude looks pretty cool.
Gimme a build, /v/, I'm up for anything
>>338327228
only decent for cleric builds that darkmoon or lightning blade it.
Even though it's not that great.
>meanwhile at FROM
>CHING CHONG BING BONG SENSEI MIYAZAKI DIS GLEAT SWOLDU IZ TOO STRONK AND SOMEHOW OUTCRASSES RONGSWOLDS
WAT DO?
>MY GOD IT MUZT BE NELFED IMMADIATERYI was pretty fucking mad desu
>>338331406
>Twin Axes worse than a single axe
Seems you didnt try buffing, One Carthus Flame Arc buff with a 40/40 quality build sets my axes at 512AR, And with a single L1 i deal about 850~ damage.
Don't call a weapon bad just because its worse by comparison, If you think that way every weapon is worse than just picking up Dark Sword and blasting trough everything with that.
>>338331724
Carthus swordsmen build
>>338331290
>Why is the L2 so useless
because split damage
also, if anybody is curious, the formula for defense reduction is actually a lot more complicated than it seems... it's not a flat reduction. If that was the case the effect wouldn't be so extreme. Actually, if you're doing damage that's below a threshold based on your defense, then your damage is reduced to like 10%, and if you're above that threshold you do like 90% damage. So pretty much it completely negates low damage from a source but does almost nothing against high damage from a source. That's why a weapon like Dancer's Twinblades and drakeblood sword do shit damage (they do small amounts of elemental bonus) but dragonslayer greataxe, which is also split damage, does fucktons of damage (because the bonus electric damage is huge enough to overcome the threshold)
If DEF >8x ATK, deal damage equal to 0.10 * ATK
If DEF >ATK, deal damage equal to (19.2/49 * (ATK/DEF-0.125)^ 2 +0.1) * ATK
If DEF >0.4x ATK, deal damage equal to (-0.4/3 * (ATK/DEF-2.5)^ 2 +0.7) * ATK
If DEF >0.125x ATK, deal damage equal to (-0.8/121 * (ATK/DEF-8)^ 2 +0.9) * ATK
If DEF <0.125x ATK, deal damage equal to 0.90 * ATK
>3 greataxe boss weapons
>0 scythe, mace, axe, or whip boss weps
thanks
>>338331821
Jesus christ why. What's the threshold then?
I'm at the end of the game and the only two bosses I can fight is the lord of cinder and the nameless king. Should I keep trying to fight the nameless king or just do it on my next playthrough? I don't like using assistance on bosses but fuck me I'm like 10 minutes away from beating it and this asshole's holding me up
>>338331821
I swear it's always been like this in dark souls, where the best way to make your weapon is to just go the easy normal upgrade route. I wish they would give an incentive for using weapons like the dancer twinblades, but split damage has always been shit sadly
>>338331884
>90% of the Boss weapons are Large Weapons or Terrible Spells
I'm still mad that Pontiffs weapons werent Greatsword and Straight Sword.
axes and maces have the same attack for the r1 and r2 for their 2 handed counter parts.
They basically have two moves and they're alright tier at best. Strong attack is almost useless since it covers less range and has no armour. Meanwhile BKG has fucking 10 unique moves.
>>338331884
>Mace
Vordt's boss weapon is a Mace.
>>338332087
it is a greathammer, not a mace.
>>338332025
>You can't combine the pontiffs weapons for a deep sword
>aldrich soul only makes gywndolin soul and lifehunter scythe
>nothing to do with the deep
>no mention of the deep at all
>no cut scene for Aldrich no matter what
I will never not be mad FUCK YOU FROM
>>338332087
It's a great hammer, Not a normal hammer type.
>>338331724
cancer build
>estoc
>great shield of glory
>dark moon blade
roll over every player in pvp without using any skill, if they wanna break the shield(they arent going to) u just poke them behind the shield, do 2 r1s when u find the opening(no spam cuz thats parriable as fuck)
thanks for the balancing from soft
>>338329934
That was excellent, that little bit of lightning on R L Steins weapon made me lose it
>>338332025
>all boss weapons fucking big as hell and most of the dex based ones are split
>don't find a good, solid dex weapon until nameless king
at least my strength run will be interesting
>>338332157
It looks like a fucking mace.I don't give a fuck what it's called in the game; it's a mace.
>>338331967
I posted the formula already senpai. It's based on the defending character's defense stat.
ALSO, I should point out, the effect is made much more noticable on attacks that are rapid low damage attacks, such as the twin blades spin. Each spin hit does low individual damage, but that means each hit is fucked over by the damage threshold.
Compare that to the Dragonslayer Greataxe weapon art, which is just one single extremely strong hit, and since it's one strong hit that means that it's pretty much garunteed to be doing 8 times your defense value damage, and thus is not mitigated at all by defense besides the basic 10% reduction all attacks get
>>338329639
So upset that this is just a joke weapon. Gonna use it anyway though.
It's a shame that only this and Smough's Hammer are the only hammer weapons that look like actual hammers instead of giant clubs.
>>338325431
>can't dual wield regular weapons
You can
Just don't expect to use both in one button
I know it's not good but I fucking love the Thrall Axe.
Axe attacks with quick dodge art is fun fun fun
>>338332279
well I'm talking about small maces, not big ass ones.
>>338332398
weapons in your left hand have fucked over gimped movesets in Dark Souls 3
>put sword in left hand
>L1 makes you hold it up like some sword of shitty tiny shield
fucking stupid
>>338331808
Is this the one with the twinblades that bleed every other hour? How do I make that work? Stats and such?
![3045236-screen+shot+2016-04-06+at+4.02.16+pm[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/nHWh7sZ.jpg "3045236-screen+shot+2016-04-06+at+4.02.16+pm[1].jpg")
Sigh.....
>>338332463
It looks very similar to Sauron's mace from LOTR actually. Pretty sure Miyazaki ripped it off and called it Hammer.
>>338330562
>Not using Vordts hammer
>Not destroying shields and screwing their stamina
Get gud
Saw people talking about split damage. I'm currently playing str/fth character using the Dragonslayer Greataxe. I have yet to use a weapon that has more AR.
People are saying split damage is shit though so should I just switch to a pure str weapon that I can buff? I'm at 40 str 30 fth
>>338330587
I think you invaded a character of mine once. My friend and I were impressed by your dedication to a role.
>>338332717
GSGA split damage isn't bad like most other weps.
You can roll with it or buff any STR wep. Both would be good.
>>338332659
It's a greathammer in the game because that's it's moveset. The "Heavy Mace" weapon is also a greathammer.
Being in the greathammer weapon class != the weapon is a hammer, that's just what determines the moveset. Most greathammers are clubs/maces. Only the toy hammer and Smough's Hammer are actually hammers in that class. Sort of like how maces are part of the "hammer" class.
>>338332717
Read this:>>338331821
pontiff curved sword
such shit damage and you cant buff it or infuse
To the people using the Fume Ultra Ugly Sword crying about the nerf...... Dont get mad...Get good ;3 (Btw I was one of the people who asked for it justified nerfing) If you think you should get a automatic two hits doing 1274 damage go play with the LVL 150+ player where trash like you belongs
>>338331535
There was going to be one in Bloodborne.
On the right there.
>>338332717
Dragonslayer greataxe is fine, the damage per hit is high enough to overcome damage threshold.
The AR you see on your stat screen is misleading, though. If you have a Dragonslayer Greataxe that says it does 600 AR, and a Black Knight Greataxe that says it does 550 AR, and you hit the same enemy with an R1 attack, the Black Knight Greataxe will do more actual damage to the enemy.
>>338333006
>on the right there
that's wrong anon
>>338332717
The only reason for split weapons is so you can't get gud weapons with just strength
The only time I needed to split with Dex is Great Axe, it's done we well and I love it
>>338333307
I'm from the mirror world.
>>338333006
>On the right there
Fuck off Woolie.
>>338333343
>you can't get gud weapons with just strength
wut? several of the best weapons in the game are strength weapons with only a small dex requirement to wield them
Which one of you niggers just invaded me in grand archives just to have me go through the whole path up to the boss kicking your ass along with the enemies just to black crystal out after I killed the last knight between you and me?
>>338330587
AWAY AWAY
>>338332603
nah thats grave wardens meme twinswords, for that bleed build, go luck/hollow/quality
>Simple Parrying Dagger/Claw on my off hand
>Two hand Dragonslayer Spear
>L2's for fucking days, pelting people with either the charge or the thrown lightning bolt at the end of the charge
>Some chump keeps at a range because he's certain I'm out of FP for another charge
>NAH FUCKER HERE'S MORE LIGHTNING, NO ESTUS ALLOWED
>Okay that's like the seventh charge there's no way he has-
>EAT DICK HAVE ANOTHER
The damage is shit but the shenanigans are amazing
I sure do love getting assraped by four phantoms literally every invasion xDD gj memesoft xDD
>Beat boss
>Automatically get ember restored
>Light new bonfire
>Sit down
>Immediately kicked out of bonfire menu
>Cant use bonfire
>2 minutes later
>"Convanat of the BBC ambassador, Anon, has invaded"
>Oh.
Respawned right next to my souls, but still.
If I sit down at the bonfire before I'm told I'm being invaded, the logical thing would be to boot the invader.
Or don't forcibly make me a PvP target after a boss fight.
Or at the very least give the player a grace period so they're not getting invaded 2 seconds after defeating a boss.
>>338331727
I'm sorry but if you know how to use the Fume's moveset, specially the weapon art, you can slay mad ass.
It's the obly weapon I have used in pvp so far and I win 8/10 matches with it.
![IMG_0824-475x382[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/mXVPa4T.png "IMG_0824-475x382[1].png")
>>338333557
>dickwraithing, fucking up bad players
>suddenly encounter good skilled player
>time for a duel of skill!
>nope
>tfw running away from host and taking pot shots at him for the whole level then black crystaling out
>he keeps trying to get me to come have a fair one on one fight with me and gestures constantly but I refuse
feels good man
>>338333784
>things that didn't happen
You can't get invaded while you're in a boss room. If you're fighting or have beaten the boss then invasions stop for that zone, and the zone afterward does not include the previous boss arena for its invasion area.
If you're going to make up stories at least do your research.
What rings would you guys use for a level 80 pyromancer? Sages, witches and fireclutch? Does Dusk's crown help with pyromancies anymore?
>>338334001
This can happen in the dragon area
>>338327228
use the hollowslayer you fish
>>338334001
It was after defeating Ancient Wyvern
You get teleported to another location for the bonfire; happened there
>>338334068
Great Swamp, Witches, Sages, Fire Clutch
that's pretty much the only choice if you want to maximize pyromancy damage.
Great swamp may be "weaker" than the witch's ring, but it still is +12% damage. That's a lot. Don't underestimate it. If you want another ring slot you should be dumping Sage's before Great Swamp
>>338325946
If you want to use pure magic why exactly are you using a melee weapon?
>>338334258
>>338334068
oh also, Great Swamp + Witches is actually higher than the sum of their parts
great swamp is +12%, witches is +25%, but if you wear both you get +40% pyromancy damage, because the bonuses are calculated separately (1.25*1.12 = 1.4)
>>338333908
That's what happened to me. Guy used the obscuring ring and just shot arrows at me through the whole level. Then black crystals out when all the enemies are dead
>tfw will NEVER EVER have DBS again
>>338324942
I'm using the Brigand Twindaggers right now, and they're great. Equip the rings to increase damage and healing with every consecutive hit and you become unkillable. They're also able to stun most enemies in the game to death. They're not bad at all considering you get them in one of the earliest areas.
>>338329132
And the game state it's weak to armoured foes.
>>338334917
You ever use the hippy hoppy weapon art or nah?
>>338332818
Could it have been in Catacombs?
>>338334917
you know, it's okay for you to say that you enjoy using a crappy weapon and gimping yourself because it has a fun moveset. You don't need to lie to yourself and pretend your nerf sticks are powerful
>>338330851
'My Dick Gotthard Twin Blades' is literally one of the best PvP weapons in the game though.
>>338335074
Only to annoy people.
>>338335183
Anon I just told gave you a few ways in which they can be very useful. Why are you so butthurt that I like a weapon?
>>338335185
>replying to a post from an hour ago
>with something that's already been said
thanks for the (you) though. Yeah, twin swords are nice. I've granted that Gotthard and Grave Wardens are the only twin weapons that aren't either shit or utterly outclassed by another weapon
>>338331727
>Requires 50 str
>Heavy as fuck
>Slow as fuck
>takes a fuck ton of stamina
>'oh no, it does good damage! nerf this shit!'
Shit like this makes me mad. If a weapon with so much stats needed to make viable is only just as good as a Claymore, then what's the fucking point? Reminds me of the Grant all over again, except at least Morne's Hammer is pretty good this time around
>>338335389
how conveniently you forgot to mention the insanely long range of the weapon, the nearly instant rolling stab attack, and the two hit guaranteed stunlock from that insanely long range
>>338330120
Partizan is as baller as always, fampai
>>338335610
fug i must have missed this, twice, im on NG++ now
>>338334258
>>338334517
Thanks for the answer breh. I didn't know you can stack rings like that, if i remember right you couldn't do it in 2
>>338335697
In Undead Settlement, where the guys throw firebombs at you from above. It's on a hanging corpse you need to shoot down.
>>338324413
Does anyone know if Sacred Oath can be used with an infused/unbuffable weapon? Gonna do a faith run but i dont wanna make a lightning weapon and not have it be buffable.
>>338324679
Sodamizing Iron
>>338335610
Isn't the Pike better in every way?
>>338334917
Caestus is really a better option for that playstyle.
Compliment the Caestus with Claws in offhand and you're set for life.
Good pyro weapons? I wanted to do a pyromancy build.
>>338336030
The witch whip. Forget what it's called. Or chaos infused weapon
>>338336030
Anything with chaos on it.
Most of the naturally fire scaling ones either have too little base or not enough scaling to be worthwhile.
Faith also suffers from this.
>>338335936
if you enjoy having no swipes, sure
>>338336030
There are none.
Scoure fextralife for a weapon that gets decent INT/FAITH damage and make a chaos, or dark weapon. The actual Pyro weapons are boss weapons which get shit damage and a whip, which you can tell is bad because it's a whip.
>>338335781
sacred oath isn't a weapon buff, you can use it with whatever weapon you want
it has some weird interactions with other self buffs though, like atonement and deep protection, the SSS buff.
but for weapons it doesn't matter, you can use it
>>338335781
Dont ever bother with sacred oath unless you feel the buff time on the sunlight straight sword is too short.
>>338336203
Got it
>>338336293
Thing is you dont get a miracle buff until irythill (i dont want to give irina a dark tome), so i just wanted to know if it was worth infusing a weapon with lightning or not early on. Shit, i dont even know what good faith weapons there are this time around, i really dont want to use a straight sword either..
>>338335936
Pike has way higher damage and a much better weapon art and twice the range but it only has thrusting attacks. It's better, but not strictly better.
>>338336427
Dragonslayer Crescent Axe recently got a big buff, it's super worth it to go Lightning without buffs or Raw/Refined later and buff it.
>>338336427
>if it was worth infusing a weapon with lightning or not early on
Well, its a good thing you dont have a choice in the matter seeing how you dont get lightning infusing till the last third of the game.
It boggles my mind that they release the game every time with half the covenant shit totally broken and unplayable and most of the weapons, weapon-types and builds completely useless.
Is it really too much to ask for them to actually test this shit out and perhaps play a game for a bit with certain weapons or builds, notice that they are, in fact, total shit and then tweak the values a bit so it's actually usable?
Same thing with the covenants, it's like half of the shit was coded overnight and never tested.
>>338324413
That is not a soldering iron.
Trust me, I'm on r/soldering all day
>>338336629
Oh fuck me thats a good point, forgot about that. Well, raw + buff it is i guess. God they made faith dick this time.
>>338336531
Dragonslayer crescent axe? No such thing. There is a plain crescent axe
>two games now with no Balder Side Sword
>>338336787
That's it's name you chucklefuck talk to Bandai Namco about it
>>338336754
This is what I liked about Bloodborne. Every weapon was as viable as the next, basically. Arcane was kind of a shitty stat at the beginning, but it wound up having a few of the best weapons in the DLC.
>>338336828
Sorry, meant Dragonslayer's Axe.
It's called Dragonslayer's Crescent Axe in DS2, it's the one you get from Creighton.
>>338336860
No retard I'm telling YOU that a soldering iron does NOT look like that.
>>338336846
Lothric Knight Sword is fairly similar, but i feel you.
>>338336846
You know it'd be considered estoc-tier with the current standing of 3, anon. It's better to let it rest and simply remember the good times with it.
>>338336887
What kind of buff did it get?
>>338336946
I'm telling YOU that's literally how it's called in game, retard
>>338332025
Farron GS should not be an ugs, it would have so much more utility if it was a gs.
>>338337040
1.06
225/180
1.07
262/210
Raw Infusion +10
Not sure what changed with other infusions but the base damage of the physical and lightning changed and the scaling went slightly down on physical.
Great Raw weapon, great lightning weapon.
Best is probably raw/refined + lightning blade
>>338336293
>after having used gold pine resin for practically every boss, finally find the lightning blade miracle
>expect something flashy like doing the gesture "By my sword" and having lightning crash down onto your weapon, infusing it
>it's almost exactly the same animation as putting resin on your weapon
why even live
>>338337071
Well I guess you'll never make it as a professional solder soldierer like me faggot
>>338332565
Weapons/catalysts used in the offhand also use more stamina as well. It's been that way since DeS, pointless one handed blocks and gimped movesets in offhand. One of the few things DaS2 did right was letting you use the full moveset in the offhand, and even designing a few weapons to be used primarily in the offhand like MGS.
>>338336450
The rolling one handed r1 is a smack. And you can rotate 180 with it. Good for catching people out of panic rolls
Anyone have a carthus curved sword they can spare?
>>338337281
I'm an electrical engineer faggot
Fug is disappointing now. Its okay.. I guess.
>>338336754
Been rocking my blue sentinels sign for days and haven't been summoned once. Any other way to get proof of Concords?
>>338324764
That's weird, because when the jailers do it it lasts for a while.
>>338337459
Silver Knights rarely drops them.
>>338337383
And you don't even know what a soldering iron is?
What a fucking joke.
>>338337345
which platform are you on?
>>338337196
How does that help me as a faith build though? The axe doesnt scale with FTH
>>338337345
Yea I do. You on steam?
>>338337735
fuck, just checked my dark souls 3 inventory and i regrettably don't have one
luckily >>338337807 is here for you
![moonlight_greatsword[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/YB2IwQs.png "moonlight_greatsword[1].png")
Do I have to explain myself?
>the weapon arts doesn't shoot a short wave energy beam
>it doesn't even have fucking hyper on it
>>338337709
you CAN make it scale with faith by making it lightning. but then you can't use weapon buffs. sacred oath would work though.
