What do you think of these 2 games ?
Decent gameplay
Gorgeous art direction.
I'm glad there's at least one company keeping 2D beat em ups alive and well.
They look fucking beautiful
and they got muscular woman
They should be on PC.
This is coming from someone who owns them both on Vita
>>338314530
They shouldn't.
This is coming from someone who actually owns them both on Vita
>>338314356
Muramasa's good, DragonQuest is boring
Art is great in both though.
>>338315287
>They shouldn't.
Why wouldn't you want great games to be available on more platforms? More sales and they'd perform better. Dragon's Crown performs like ass on the Vita when there's too much happening on screen.
>>338315287
Shouldn't what? Add muscles?
>>338315439
No, fuck off. I also own a Vita, just keep them on Vita.
I don't want the game's fanbase to become shitty.
>>338315439
Dragon's Crown is on PS3 aswell.
>>338315521
>I don't want the game's fanbase to become shitty.
Nice autism
>>338315554
And?
I only played DC for about 5 hours. I lost interest after that. Never played Muramasa. I loved the shit out of Odin Sphere, though. I wish Princes Crown would get a localization someday.
>>338315608
example. dark souls
>>338315635
It's a bit late for a sega saturn game to get localised
>>338315608
name one console exclusive that got ported to PC and its fanbase didn't become shit
>>338315521
>just keep them on Vita
>trying this hard to justify your paperweight purchase
I can emulate Muramasa on Dolphin and I have DQ on PS3, how triggered are you right now?
>>338314356
Genroku Legends (Muramasa DLC thing) is better than the game itself.
Loved Fury mode on Muramasa.
Didn't get around to buying Dragon's Crown, looked at gameplay and its not for me. My Vita is on lower FW so I can't play online.
>>338315554
Muramasa was on the Wii as well.
>>338315773
I know, but they keep re-releasing old games all the time. One can hope.
Still need to play the Muramasa DLC and can't wait for Odin Sphere. Brilliant games.
>>338315830
>I can emulate Muramasa on Dolphin
Have fun with your inferior translation and no DLC.
lmao
>>338315670
>>338315806
>rabid console loyalists still perpetuating their autism
The ironing.
>>338315830
Muramasa's Wii version is inferior to the Vita one, though.
>another Vanillaware platform wars thread
Do you think Odin Sphere will perform well on Vita? I was going to get it along with a PS4, but I'm not sure now.
I know Muramasa ran well, but I haven't heard much on Vita Dragon's Crown.
>>338316047
It runs like a charm on Vita
>>338314356
Dragons crown looks good but it was so damn boring and short holy shit
>>338316047
I'll get the vita version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhpP7tItip8
>>338316047
Well, I doubt it will suffer from the slow down the PS2 version had. That said, I would much rather play it on a big screen than a tiny one.
I played Dragon's Crown with a friend and he became visibly aroused. He told me we had to stop playing and went home, told me later that
>you're always playing these gay-ass games with little anime girls in them but goddamn that Red Sonja chick in that DnD-lookin game we played was the hottest thing I've ever seen
>>338316018
it'll happen to you but you wont say or admit it. it isnt autism, it is the way things can go.
usually goes bad rather than good.
you're misinterpreting reaffirmed disappointment to autism.
They're great. Ought to play them more.
Vanillaware are making some sort of mecha game next right?
>>338316047
It's coming to the US Store for PS3 too right? I might get it for that.
Out of all my PS3 games Dragon's Crown is between my most played
Why the fuck would you play beat em ups on PC
>inb4 the "you can plug controllers in" meme
>>338316310
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mV_RfdxpVOU
>>338316318
Yeah it's coming to the US store.
>>338316010
>inferior translation
No one gives a shit.
>>338314356
10/10
>>338316289
>hanging out with dudebros
>>338316393
>being able to use a specific input method on your system of choice is now a meme
Kill yourself, my man
Among the best games of all time. Got a VITA for them and nothing else and it was worth it.
>>338316393
you can plug a controller in, ez
>>338316508
>no one gives a shit
>still inferior with no DLC
Kill yourself.
I just started playing DQ. It takes a while to get used to the controls on the vita, and to the sorceress. Currently trying her put and some AI but I'd like to try solo eventually.
>>338316574
>>338316592
You can plug keyboard and mouse into consoles I guess they're master race now.
>>338316558
he's amexicancomic book nerd.
>>338316438
It looks so damn beautiful. I wonder what the gameplay will be like?
Muramasa is one of my favorite games of all time.
t. Someone who beat every cave of evil and every boss on fury mode on every character including all the DLC characters.
>>338316692
There's still no one who cares about the inferior translation
>>338316692
The Wii version is fine if someone doesn't want to fork over the money.
>>338315521
Judging by your response too late
>>338314356
Both of them almost made me eat my Vita
>>338316726
What point are you even trying to make you fucking mouthbreather?
I fucking
LOVE
Dragon's Crown. Never played Muramasa but i want to
>>338316782
I wonder if it'll be a side-scrolling beat-em-up with RPG elements
>>338316692
getting it for free and playing it at 1080p's good enough for me cuz, i doubt ill lose sleep over some catgirl story
>>338315521
>getting territorial about a god damned Wii port
Come on now
>>338316748
then he's lying to himself or he got into comics way too late in his age.
mexicans are weebs cause of dragonball, ranma, and caballeros del zodiaco.
unless he was born in the US. fuck that guy then for pointlessly hassling you
>live at uni
>don't have room for tv and ps3
>mfw I can only play dragon's crown when I go home
>deeply considered the vita but heard it was not as good as PS3
>don't have 200 dollars + the cost of game itself to toss at a handheld anyways
>>338316826
>>338316853
>>338316856
>>338317000
This is why no Vanillaware game should come to PC.
Have them, love them, Would rather play them Xbox or PC.
>>338316708
Dragon Quest?
>>338316983
Naaah, what gave you that idea?
>>338317048
Original is on the Wii though.
Vita is the enhanced port.
>>338317173
>xbox
kill yourself normie
>>338316815
>someone played the peasant for more than 15 minutes
god DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN
>>338317078
Mexican-American, obviously.I'm friends with him because I like comic books too, and also he owns a pickup truck and would help me move.
>>338317106
>don't have 200 dollars + the cost of game itself to toss at a handheld anywaysa VitaTV is only $30
You'll need a TV though.
>>338317239
Please, Sony is the normie platform now. Enjoy the wonder of CoD DLC and Uncharted 15.588.
>>338317339
shut the fuck up tripfag
>>338317141
Senran Kagura's already been announced for PC
It's only a matter of time :^)
>>338317435
>Senran Kagura
What does that have to do with Vanillaware?
>>338317418
Make another DELETE THIS petition.
Both are great, but I like Muramasa more in every way. Far better gameplay and music, more visually pleasing backgrounds, and while the story in miinor for each of them, Muramasa's is still better. Only thing I can really give Dragon's Crown over it is better boss art.
Very repetitive
Muramasa is flashy but cool
Didnt care for dragons crown
Ugly characters but the backgrounds are nice
Very meh, shitty over rated developer only loved because theyre gooks.
>>338317106
You can get a Vita for around $100 these days. The only problem is the shitty expensive memory cards. If you only buy physical, it's not a big deal. Just make sure you have at least an 8 or 16gb card just in case there IS something you want that's digital.There is the EXTREMELY cheap PSTV, but like you said, you ain't got room for a TV AND you can't play some of the games on it.
>>338317276
Actually they weren't so bad once you got the hang of them. I found the Ninja DLC character to be the worst to play as and the cat girl was my favorite.
>>338317486
Damn xbots are jealous I see.
>>338317486
Make another begging for games petition.
>>338317583
Real talk, I love them on the Vita, but they both would have sold better as multiplatform games. Say what you will, but the Vita is a paperweight.I wish Sony hadn't killed the last good console they made since the PS2 off.
>>338317481
means he thinks that SV will open the gates for titles similar. he's making a leap but I get it.
>>338317581
Okoi a best, you're alright. Have some best from the other game.
>>338317974
Correct.
>>338315287
SHOULDN'T WHAT???
>>338315521
THIS
i want every game i like to stay away from the PC plebs
>>338317798
How well do Vita ports even sell on Steam? I never bothered looking at the numbers.
DO NOT PLAY THESE GAMES IF YOU ARE ON A DIET OP.
>>338317764
>I wish Sony hadn't killed the last good console they made since the PS2 off.
Isn't Vita still getting games though?
Pretty but boring
>>338318175
Play them and be inspired to cook your own delicious and healthful food instead of eating processed garbage
>>338318169
like shit until they go on sale for $2
>>338318274
they don't count because sony won't make game for the Vita anymore.
lel who remembers this one?
>>338318394
sony barely makes games in general
>>338314356
Left is alright when you're bored, right is garbage
>>338318274
Hardly, and most of the time, it's nothing good. Sony will NOT make a new exclusive, and strong arm devs making vita games to make a PS4 version as well.
>>338314356
both games look godlike visually.
muramasa is mashy but the new control options on vita are tight. the dlc characters are fun and the stories are good but short. areas are repetitive but everything looks so beautiful that you don't care.
dragons crown is one of the best beat em ups of all time.
a randomized tower that reuses screens but randomizes spawns was the best idea for the genre.
it could use more playable characters
seems like every vanillaware game is good but could use some tweaks to the combat.
for instance there's more depth to streets of rage 3 movesets than dragon's crown.
Just don't get tricked into playing Elf if you choose dragon's crown. She seems fun and awesome early game but then once you get to the end game content she has only one viable strategy. Jump down shot. Over and over. Forever.
>>338318772
Running clone arrow is pretty boss and doesn't leave you very open.
Muramasa is one of the best games in that specific genre. Obviously the art direction is superb. Dragon's crown I like the gameplay more though. I might buy a ps tv just for these games (I owned them when I still had a vita).
plated both but i much prefer DC since i really want to go far in that stupid tower.
Why is the black pirate such a fucking dick?
Odin Sphere and Muramasa are like works of art. The music and art is amazing and the gameplay is a lot of fun too. They have a great atmosphere. Muramasa is probably better though.
Dragon's Crown is a bit different. If you haven't got friends to play it with you it's really dull. Also the gameplay is slower and clunkier.
>>338319334
>still grinding up through the LoC becuase Demon King is being an asshole on Floor 9 and I'm not strong enough
>mfw Archdemon is the boss of the floor
That boss fight sucks ass even on the lower floors. It's not the Archdemon himself, it's all the fucking lightning demons he spawns.
Giant Robots fucking when?
>>338319906
This will be what breaks the camel's back if it's for PS4.
Odin's Sphere HD and this along with Gundam Breakers 3 is too much to pass up. Here's to hoping for a price drop on it.Too bad I can't play Muramasa on it. Everyone says it's fantastic but fuck the vita
>>338320062
Bruh get a VitaTV.
It's $30 and it works with your PS3 and 4 controllers.
>want the Storybook Edition of Odin Sphere
>might not have enough money by the time it releases
I even have that Best Buy membership where you get 20% off new games, too. Do you guys think the Vita version will be fine in the event that I can't get the PS4 limited edition?
>>338320062
>but fuck the vita
bitch get out
>>338320431
Vita version runs fine.
>>338320062
Vita's great, dudeminus the shitty memory cards, which aren't a problem if you buy physical copies.
There's always the Vita TV, which you can get by itself (maybe with the 8gb memory card) for $20-$30.
>>338320715
Any noticeable differences? For instance, maybe touch screen controls?
>>338314356
Wow, that's some ugly ass cover art.
>>338320953
No touch controls, as far as I've seen.
There are some rare framerate drops compared to the PS4 release but nothing that major.
Muramasa looks stunning on a OLED vita.
>>338317276
The farmers scale crazy fast and with all 3 of them they might be the strongest.
Dragon's Crown got sold to me as a fun arcade-style dungeon crawler that is good with friends.
The game is pretty as hell, but the gameplay felt so shallow. And managing equipment for more than 2 characters at a time gets to be tedious.
>>338320715
...Is nobody going to ask why this guy has an English copy of Leifthrasir already?
muramasa is 10/10
Both games made the most of the OLED on the original model compared to how muddy, colourless or just bad looking other titles could be. Which is also funny because of how high res some of the art is.
The gallery from Dragon's Crown was worth fighting for though. There's a good section in nearly every piece of artwork for any given background screen.
I'm replacing my Vita when Odin Sphere comes.
>>338314876
>They should be on PC.
No. The fanbase of lot's of games that end on pc becomes a frothing pile of shit. Mustard weeboos are cancer.
>>338314356
Muramasa is excellent. Great gameplay, solid difficulty, interesting story, great design, and an excellent job at portraying the japanese mythology aspect. It's easily one of the games I always recommend.
Dragon's Crown is fun, looks very nice, does a good job with that brawler genre and has a nice loot/leveling system reminding people of D&D and it's brawler titles. However, it does get repetitive and there's no guarantee that the online will have people for you. It's best if you like that genre, but a lot harder sale otherwise.
>>338314876
>>338315287
>>338315521
>>338315554
Remember that there is an HD remaster of Odin's Sphere coming out for PS4 so likely expect HD rereleases on PS4 if anything.
Why do people want Dragon's Crown on PC when you already have Chronicles of Mystara?
This is coming from someone who owns Dragon's Crown on PS3 and Vita, as well as Muramasa on Vita and has pre-ordered Odin Sphere for PS4.
>>338314356
That you should play the first at 1080p on Dolphin with a good controller being able to map all inputs yourself and put jump on a button istead of tilt up.
>>338319906
more news when
>>338323421
looks fucking polluted like an oil spill, thats not comfy thats scary
>>338323421
the translation is fucked on wii, and vita version fixed the controls
its like the one game worth buying a vita tv for
>>338324270
Why do you idiots keep bringing up the translation when it's 100% irrelevant?
>>338324583
wii version translation was famously bad
think like snes ted woolsey tier
>>338314356
Muramasa is one of the best vita games, very enjoyable.
Dragon's Crown was very boring and I regret buying it. All the hub-bub about the anime tiddies kept everyone from warning me about how bland the game is and how tedious local co-op can get.
>>338324868
It's actually kind fascinating that you find Dragon's Crown boring and tedious while Muramasa isn't
I mean, I love both games, but you can't really argue that they all have very grindy and samey moments where you're just going through the same enemies over and over and not much changes apart from your character
The real fun of the games, in my opinion, is on the bosses themselves, and on the first playthrough of regular enemies
>>338324583
Muramasa actually has a decent story and motivations for the characters. You can end up liking the characters by the end if you understand what they are going through.
It's not even the best aspect of the game, but a good one tacked on can still make the game enjoyable..
>>338324832
Doesn't matter since you can't fucking read anyway.
>>338314356
They both promote rape culture.
>it's turned into a platform war thread
Every time.
>>338325187
>It's actually kind fascinating that you find Dragon's Crown boring and tedious while Muramasa isn't
In Muramasa, you run into different encounters in the same areas with different characters. Bosses, as you note, are different for every character. You're doing different things in each area, as well. You might be retreading ground, but it's frequently new content.
In Dragon's Crown, the content and the missions will be the same regardless of which character you use. It's the same story, through the same stages with the same encounters and bosses each character. Most optional quests just involve going through the same stages as you previously visited, which are going to be exactly the same as before.
There's quite a bit more repetition in Dragon's Crown which isn't there in Muramasa.
>>338314356
Hate them, portraying women as fap bait. I am glad western sites harassed the fuck out of Vanillaware.
>>338325513You are just fishing for more nude dwarves, aren't you?
>>338325376
What gets me the most, is PC only faggots don´t buy games, fucking little poor faggots. I got really mad seeing the GTA V sales, not even 10% of total sales.
>>338325376
Seriously why is this becoming a common thing in vanillaware threads? Port begging has gone through the roof lately and it just shits up the threads.
>>338325817
/v/ have got a good influx of underage PCucks only lately. What do teenagers do when they do not get what they want? Exactly.
>>338314356
>still no Dragon's Crown on PC
Well fuck you too.
>>338325187
Muramasa just felt a lot faster and I never had to worry about being on the same horizontal plane as my enemy.
When I played Dragon's Crown, I was bent on playing as the amazon because T H I C K but she turned out to be kind of a boring character to play as. I also made the mistake of playing with friends. I don't know if you ever played the local co-op in that game but players can't go through their menus at the same time. Everyone has to repair their weapons, accept quests, buy shit, etc one-at-a-time. It felt like we were spending more time doing in-between dungeon maintenance rather than cool shit. We ended up getting really frustrated with each other because of how much time was being wasted in town and I haven't touched the game since.
I guess another important point is that I just don't have a special reverence for the style of beat-em-up Dragon's Crown was trying to revive.
>>338326709
>bitter vita owner jealously clutching onto wii port while deriding ports
Reconsider your life choices
>>338326709
Back when DC was announced there wasn't even a peep of port begging. People were talking about the characters and game. Now you can't even have a thread with out some one saying PC this or shitposting like >>338326916
What the hell.
>>338325783
It's often just a vocal minority. Everyone is too busy on League, Hearthstone, Dota 2, or CSGO to care about the latest port.
>>338326829
I've found that spellcasters (and presumably the Elf) are a bit more complicated than melee users. Melee tends to just be charge the enemy, jump at the enemy, and use a special attack. The Wizard has three different staffs with somewhat different attacks on each, complete with very different aerial attacks and different charged attacks. And there is the MP management, and switching between weapons. It can still get repetitive, but at least you are changing things up a bit rather than doing the same charge-attack routine over and over.
It's disappointing to hear about the co-op problems, though.
>>338326916
>This mad
I got a gaming PC on top of a few consoles, stay salty champ. Get a job, you will be less angry, and more happy.
>>338314356
Odin Sphere is better
>>338327501
I'm not the one get salty over ports here bruh, don't pretend to be a fellow idort when you get so upset that non-wii owners dare to want a port like you got for your aborted handheld.
>>338321807
>And managing equipment for more than 2 characters at a time gets to be tedious.
So much this.
Doings shit with NPCs takes all fucking day
I expected muscleposting and good art posting. What the fuck is wrong with you guys?
>>338315949
>>338315830
I think he just doesn't want them on PC.
Any console is probably alright for him.
Muramasa/Dragon's Crown aren't even Vita exclusive
>>338327639
Thankfully, I'll be able to play all three on my Vita soon.
>>338328073
The way this thread is, I'm sure things aren't going to be like to used to friend. Have one for better times.
>>338328427
Thanks doc.
;_;
>>338316047
It runs fine. I played the japanese demo. There are some dips in framerate when there's a lot of things going on screen. But it's not ps2 levels of slowdown. You just kinda feel it.
>>338317106
I bought a used Vita for 80€.
It was 3.51 so I installed ARK-2 and updated to 3.55 so I can play some actual games (eg. Cyber Sleuth) and pirate some old PSP games.
Too bad you need a PS3 to get stuff on your Vita without updating
>>338328569
Hell have another one, this thread is too dry.
>>338324270
>vita version fixed the controls
You could even use a GC controller for the game.
Not even MH Tri allowed that.
Fuck, I hate Tri.
Luckily 3U fixed it
>>338327740
is bait getting lazier on /v/? fuck man this shit is too obvious
>>338325817
I thought Momohime had a hardcore tattoo on her back.>mfw Momohime literally means Princess Peach
>>338316438
Now I have the fucking video looped because of that fucking soundtrack.
Seriously fuck you, we don't even have a JAP release date
>>338314356
Muramasa Rebirth is god like
Dragon's Crown is a love letter to old school beat em ups.
>>338314356
Beautiful with shallow gameplay
>>338327740
>Reading comprehension 0
>Pasta-tier irrelevant post.
I know /v/ is the easiest to bait, but that is no excuse to throw weak bait.
>>338329196
Music reminds me of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhHMI_0mFZ0RIP Origa ;_;7
>>338329907
>This video contains content from Victor Entertainment, Inc.. It is not available in your country.
Reminds me of PSO2.
>>338330347
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJjscA9Zvcw
How about now
>>338315521
Its already on a sony device, so its far too late for that
>>338330664
>Not owning all the consoles
Wew lad, get a new hobby.
>>338330664
>shitty
>when most people want to talk about it but pckeks keep getting assblasted over it not being on steam
lol
FYI If you get a PSTV, Muramasa Rebirth can fit on it with all the DLC without needing a memory card.
>>338330873
Please. Even if it came to steam I would not buy it. Maybe if it was on summer sale for 2 bucks. I never pay more than 10 bucks for my games. Stay being a dumb shill.
>>338330484
Same. Ironically, this video works perfectly well. I'm not sure if it's the same song, though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIVgSuuUTwQ
>>338331342
Is there a full scan of this?
>>338330664
Back when Muramasa released on Wii we had nice discussion about it and Vanillaware games in general.
The Vita re-release was used to show what a shitty translation we got but we still had game discussions.
Dragon's Crown AFTER release got nice game discussions and Vanillaware games in general.
And before all those "PC PORT WHEN" posts showed up, discussions about Vanillaware games were possible.
I can see how some people don't want it on PC but I don't see how a PC port is badly needed. I mean, Dragon's Dogma needed a PC port because the perfomance and resolution on 360/PS3 was dogshit but Dragon's Dogma threads/discussion luckily didn't become worse after PC release.
PC babbies do exist. "Artificial Difficulty" is a good example for that.
They didn't even get to play pre-1.04 Dark Souls
>>338331113
Nah, it's Rise.
You got the gist of it then, good.
>>338331669
There it is.
>>338324335
I kinda agree with this. I would love a dungeon meshi dlc for dragons crown.
Both are great, and so is Odin Sphere Leifthrasir
The Vita is perfect for Vanillaware fans, really
>>338314356
Fucking great, cant wait to play Odin Sphere on Vita too.
>>338316047
Hardin said it runs damn well on the Vita. I doubt they made it 60FPS on PS4 so I'd say the Vita port is worth it
>>338333465
Now we just need GrimGrimoire, and to finally see a localized release of Grand Knights History.
>>338317106
You don't have room in your dorm for a 15-20" TV?
>>338314356
I like them, and Vita.
>>338320062
Get a Vita TV and then wait until you have more reasons to get a PS4 (like for Nier Automata)
>>338322636
Please don't speak ill of others anon. There are a lot of cool people on pretty much every platform.>>338323031
That'd be cool, although Muramasa has already been released twice so I don't see it happening again, at least not so soon and certainly not on PS4 after the Vita release. Dragon's Crown on the other hand would do quite well for a PS4 re-release, methinks.
Muramasa was great, though I could only play the Wii version.
Dragon's Crown was a lot of fun too but I sometimes felt like the RPG elements bogged down the beat 'em up too much. I still played a lot of it though.
Odin Sphere is still my favourite VW game despite the kind of clunky combat and repetitive design. Leifthrasir looks like it's going to be GOAT.
>>338322013
Review copies are out, bruv. I recall companies like IFI and Atlus like to send out review copies even to lowkey reviewers
>>338323421
>playing the Wii version
>when the Vita version is of a higher quality
Dolphin doesn't suddenly make Wii games better, and internal resolution increases doesn't benefit 2D games as much without higher res assets as well.
>>338315287
Don't you dare tell someone that they don't own a game that they very well may. Its quite insulting.
>tfw still didn't play DC for more than 2 hours
I need to sit down and play that game proper.
>>338316393
>not plugging controllers into your PC for Japanese games
why would you not do this? These games play better with a controller. Playing games on PC with a Dualshock 3 works comfortably well. There's also Xbox controllers but I don't think they're quite as comfy.
>>338316726
Yeah, and its pretty cool that you can do that. More choices for players on how to play a game. Dirge of Cerberus back on the PS2 even had keyboard support. Was really weird and cool.
Speaking of Odin Sphere, what are the differences between the PS3 and PS4 versions?
>>338336009
I couldn't get into the original Odin Sphere. The new version better I guess?
>>338334889
I felt GrimGrimoire would be really good on the Vita if they made it 100% touchscreen.
I think why it failed on PS2 was because the controls were so bad... At least I felt it like that.
>>338314356
Didn't play Muramasa.
Dragon's Crown is fuckingawesome
>>338336660
Depends on why you couldn't get into the original I guess.
The new one has totally overhauled gameplay,to bring it more in line with Muramasa and Dragon's Crown, so the combat is a lot faster/more fluid and the characters have more abilities.
>>338318169
It varies depending on the game. Neptunia Rebirth games did fantastically. Danganronpa games did acceptably well. Mind/Zero and The Firefly Diary sold like shit.
>>338337005
Well then it seems this version is up my alley.
>>338337083
Didnt The Firefly Diary just got release like a day ago?
>>338337349
2 days ago to be exact. Perhaps I'm being a little unfair, but I don't expect it to increase by much more. At least not quickly. Most other games increase in sales much faster I believe. Even Danganronpa did on release.
>>338337083
The Firefly Diary and especially Mind Zero are also just fairly mediocre games that few people have ever heard of, so that's not too big a surprise.
I'll never understand what's up with PCfats and Neptunia though. I don't dislike the series (I found most of the Rebirth games fun enough for at least a playthrough, and legitimately like Hyperdevotion Noire) but those games consistently top the charts when they release on Steam and it's fucking bizarre.
>>338337083
Mind/Zero wasn't even a finished game, people who bought it deserve their money back.
>>338337774
I think its partly because Neptunia was the first sign of Japanese games starting to appear on PC so a lot of people jumped on it in the beginning in the hopes of getting better games only to realize it was actually pretty fun, hence the high initial sales. So it was the first big exposure on Steam, and once people played one they realized that they're pretty fun. That added to the fact that they are lighthearded and humorous enough to make them easy to spread and show off via screenshots and videos to others, making them more marketed than some other PC games. And finally they've appeared on Humble Bundle before, so I'm sure that helped increase awareness to some degree (along with boost sales numbers, although I don't really think Humble Bundle sales should be considered a good metric for a game selling well considering how dirt cheap games are in those bundles). Basically it had a lot of reason to garner attention though, hence why they sell so well. At least that's what I think.
Visually gorgeous but I fucking hated playing Dragon's Crown.
It's been a long time since I played Muramasa back on the Wii, but I think I had more fun with it because it was much faster compared to DC.
>>338338495
Well if you wanted to go fast you should've played as Amazon
i'm playing muramasa on my oled vita and i don't get it.
yeah it looks great, the designs are stellar and the music is exotic. but i'm just running through rectangle zones waiting for the same ninjas to ambush me again so i can talk to the furry titty monster at the next save point. seems over half the gameplay is just me running to the next area.
>>338337774
>I'll never understand what's up with PCfats and Neptunia though.
They are massive grindy time wasters, and one thing I've noticed about a lot of people who buy tons of Steam games: they have a massive amount of time available to waste. I don't like them at all, but then again, I'm fairly busy and selective with my game choices. Neptunia feels like it intentionally wastes my time, which is my biggest qualifier for a poor game.
>>338339376
>i'm playing muramasa on my oled vita and i don't get it.
Things get more challenging as you get further into the game. Stuff like the frogs, or the ninjas with bombs, or the tengu mean you'll need to put those skills you are developing to good use. You won't be able to just hack your way through everything; dodging and the air dashes and the shield breaking becomes important, especially being able to do them quickly.
The bosses and the challenge areas really put those skills to the test.
Anyone else preorder Odin Sphere solely for the art book it comes with? I did the same for DC. I never beat the game, but it was fun and beautiful. I assume OS will be as well.
>>338341007
No, because I don't play furry fairy shit.
>>338315521
>I don't want the game's fanbase to become shitty
But this doesn't affect the game at all, more people get to enjoy a good game.
wew lad
>>338315521
Why does the fanbase matter?
>>338315670
>wahhh more people can play a game and now the fanbase is shit people will think I'm shit wahhh get out of my sekrit club reeeeeeeeee
>>338331342
Morgan is a filthy skeleton sympathizer!
Also, amazing chest ahead.
>>338342801
>there are no male harpy
>there are still eggs that hatch
You should be able to solve this.
Decent, probably worth $15.
>>338314356
I think Muramasa has substantially better and more engaging combat than Dragon's Crown and it's probably my favorite VW game overall, but it's the more repetitive game of the two. And they're both at least somewhat repetitive.
Dragon's Crown is okay.
>>338342801
>Morgan
She looks a lot more like the Spirit found in Mage's Tower.
>the gifs of the midsection girls are so high res that it's over 4 MB
>>338342801
Wait, so does this mean you kill Roland's waifu?
>>338314356
I wish Muramasa was out for PS4 ;_;
DC is god tier though.
>>338344143
>>338346401
I was legit pissed off when their big announcement was fucking Odin Sphere HD.
>>338346474
What else did you expect?
They're still working on 13 sentinels.
I would love for an expansion for grim grimoire though.
I fucking LOVED the giant enemies you unlock late game.
>>338346795
>What else did you expect?
I prayed to god that it was Muramasa HD.
>>338346863
>yfw at E3 Vanillaware announces 13 Sentinels 2016 launch date and Muramasa HD
>>338314356
Both should be on PC by now
>>338347086
You can play muramasa in an emu with the highres tex pack
>>338347086
>>338347769
Unfortunately no way to play Dragon's Crown yet
>>338347769
>>338347848
I just mean officially. I'd like more people to be able to enjoy these games and most people won't pirate. Plus, Vanillaware would enjoy the cash flow. I own them already on Wii and PS3 respectively, and replayed Muramasa on Dolphin last year.
>>338348223
If they were on PC I'd totally buy them, especially if they had collector's editions.
I have a feeling many more people would play if they weren't exclusive.
I just bought those exact two games the other day.
I already had (and beat) the PS3 version of Dragon's Crown, and Murumasa is another gorgeous, hand-drawn game.
The gameplay in both is typical 2-D/2.5-D combo-based brawler with lots to upgrade.
I'm glad I got both. Even though there wasn't anything unexpected about the gameplay, they still make for two enjoyable games.
