>When a male character mentions their husband
What do they mean by this?
>>338299114
>LOOK AT US WE'RE SO PROGRESSIVE
literally why can game writers never be subtle?
He's saying exactly what he'd say if he had a wife, but he's a fag
>>338299114
thanks for the heads up, gonna kill this faggot
hope hes not unkillable
>>338299285
because the people who want this can't understand subtlety
>>338299285
How would you make it more subtle?
>>338299114
We mean that we at Bethesda are a progressive and inclusive bunch that stand in solidarity. And our lord Todd Howard is not a manlet at all.
>>338299285
>>338299789
But if he had a wife, he'd say the same shit with "wife" in the place of "husband."
You're only getting triggered because you want to be.
>>338299285
>>338299789
You guys are fucking stupid, how could that be more subtle?
>>338299285
Obsidian can be subtle, at least they were in NV. I had no idea Arcade Gannon was gay until I read about it on /v/.
>>338299908
have him say the guys name and have the player infer that it was his husband rather than him saying LOOK AT ME IM A FAG LMAO
>>338300026
Not just have a character say some shit liek that as if its normal and were supposed to just go on with it?
>>338300045
Why does every gay mention have to be subtle, though?
If the dude's husband is dead it doesn't make any sense to be coy about it.
>>338300026
Because gay characters are only okay when you have to go out of your way to find out they're gay.
I mean, that line by itself isn't any more poorly written than anything else in the game. It involves homosexuality, though, so /v/ is super triggered.
>>338300165
That would make signficantly less sense though.
The player doesn't know who that is, and doesn't imply the effect it's had on that guy at all.
that there are not enough gays in maine
>>338300165
a guys name could be anything.
Parent, brother, child, uncle, fuck it could be his dog.
husband is fine
>world with 1950s cultural norms
>fags aren't hung from trees
way to break my immersion Todd you faggot
>>338300045
>Had no idea!
The very first time you talk to him as a male character, he comments on your looks and that he wouldn't mind following you around.
If you talk to him as a female, he states he doesn't exactly play for the right team.
How the fuck are you people so god damn daft.
>/v/ is literally crying because bethesda is reminding them that gays are considered perfectly normal in modern society
>>338300212
So the writers should just cradle your fragile sense of reality by letting you know gently and at your own pace that some dudes fuck dudes?
Listen, I can't sit down with you, carefully tweak the thermostat, and make you a nice cup of chamomile tea to comfort you before I say this, but some dudes fuck dudes. That's just the way the world works.
>>338299285
Man, you fags are actively looking for things to get mad at. Just replace husband with wife, there's nothing forced about it you retard
>Straight character says "My wife died"
>/v/ says nothing
>Gay character says "My husband died"
>/v/ flips out and says its bad writing because clearly they can't just say their husband died like a normal person, this simple information has to be hidden in an obscure dialogue tree option or hard-to-find area
lmfao, /v/ is insecure as fuck
>>338300490
>1950s cultural norms
>Women are in the military
>Blacks are everywhere
The one thing you're pointing out is that "Fags" should be hung from trees.
Looks like someone's very insecure about their own sexuality.
<3
Stay triggered ass faggot.
>>338300546
but they aren't
>>338300546
/v//pol/gets triggered just as much as tumblr does
>>338300659
because that one is natural :^)
>>338300546
>are considered perfectly normal in modern society
I'd agree if they wouldn't ask for laws making them special beings on society.
>>338300490
It doesn't have 1950's cultural norms, and it hasn't since the war.
>>338300490
>world with 1950s cultural norms
That's not true, though.
>>338299114
>This island... It... it has taken my loved ones. It has taken everything
Fix'd ;^)
>its ok to portray a mental illness as perfectly normal
are we being invaded by dumblr?
>>338300778
I wasn't asking about your particular opinion on them, the vast majority of modern 1st world societies consider it completely normal.
>>338300490
>world with 50s values
>nuclear war destroys everything
>200 fucking years pass and the world is filled with countless monstrosities
>thinking anyone cares what others are banging
>>338299114
>game has straight characters
tumblr gets triggered
>game has gay characters
/v/ gets triggered
And thus the cycle continues
>triggered by a character referring to his significant others gender and asking for gender neutrality
Hahaha, fucking horseshoe.
>>338300916
Psychologists don't consider it a mental illness though :^)
>/v/
>it's acceptable to be gay
>as long as you're not gay and in my media
Why are y'all scared of queers?
>>338300672
I've met plenty of married heterosexual couples
I have literally never met a married gay couple
There's a reason it stands out
>>338301016
psychologists are gay
>>338300916
There's no value statement in some dude saying he has a dead husband. He just has a dead husband.
It's like the sky is blue, or the grass is green.
You can still call him mentally ill all you want.
>>338300026
you dont make the character say "lel look at me I am so gay"
you add rumors in among the other npcs, hint in environment details and during speeches
never admit or deny he is gay or not, but make sure the player has a strong belief that the npc is a faggot
here done, everyone is happy
>>338301016
because of social pressure, not because the science changed
>>338300916
>Biological function that happens regardless of gender
>Biological function that also happens in many other animals
>Biological function that happens in Insects
Gee Golly, all these kids who are so insecure about their own sexual feelings towards traps, shemales, and 2d Shota's.
>>338300916
nigga pls. faggots are still more mentally healthy than your average /v/irgin.
>>338301016
Psychologists are jews
>>338300895
Homosexuals cannot reproduce and this one is in a monogamous relationship. There would be no need for "ones" o_0
>>338301071
are you fucking retarded
Let's see. Can you think there might be a reason that you don't often see MARRIED gay couples? Perhaps something to do with legislation that only passed within the last few years that people still fight against? Christ, use your fucking head.
>>338301114
>he thinks being gay is normal
>>338301113
>because of social pressure
You will feel dumb when you realize that reasoning can be applied to any time frame.
>>338301016
Psychology is a Jewish invention.
>>338299908
well just changing the order of the sentence works here.
>>338301071
It's a post-apocalyptic wasteland in Massachusetts set hundreds of years after a retro-futuristic nuclear war between the United States and China destroyed the world.
Why be triggered by meeting a gay widower?
>>338301016
Because an illness can be cured or treated. Don't think anyone's ever died from being gay.
>>338299285
Enlighten us with how you would have portrayed subtlety.
>>338301254
>Perhaps something to do with legislation that only passed within the last few years that people still fight against? Christ, use your fucking head.
I'm from Canada. It's been legal here for a LOOOOOOOOOOOONG time.
But please, keep crying about how you're a victim
>>338301114
Some animals are cannibals.
Some animals commit rape.
Some animals commit incest.
Just because something happens in the animal kingdom, this doesn't mean that it's a good thing or that it should be tolerated by civilized, sapient beings.
>>338300619
No, the writers instead shouldnt pander to these mentally ill fucks and leave gender politics out of fucking games. Otherwise were left with idiotic shit like this character or the shit gay pilot character in ME3 or the tranny in the expansion of Baldurs Gate or the gay mage in DAI that at every opportunity they get they shout LOOK HOW MUCH OF SPECIAL SNOWFLAKE I AM! LOOK AT HOW GAY I AM!!! That type of hamfisted writing makes for bad characters.
>but some dudes fuck dudes. That's just the way the world works.
Its more nuanced than that, see, less than 3% of the US population identify with some type of mental illness faggotry so why do these devs have pandering to this special snowfalkes and we should just take it?
>>338301113
How do you define an "illness" though?
If gay men can live perfectly functional, perfectly well-balanced lives while also consensually fucking other men in the ass, is that really a mental illness?
>>338301420
by not having a faggot character in the game :^)
>>338300212
do you think people don't talk about their significant others?
>all these aggressive heart and smileys ITT
Spot the fags
>>338299114
>
Jesus Christ, what's wrong with you fucking normies
>>338300212
>>338300331
>>338301103
You faggots would have no problem with this if he said "my wife" instead. Its time to grow up losers.
>>338301257
>he thinks normal means what he thinks it means
Norms differ from population to population and from era to era.
Isn't that what you are getting asshurt about anyway? That being gay isn't seen as abnormal in some countries anymore?
>>338299950
>You're only getting triggered because you want to be.
The entire SJW video game phenomenon summed up, basically. For both sides of the argument.
>>338301420
>Male character says "I lost somebody"
>Hack into some records or find some kind of medical file that lists their male spouse and when they died
Wow that was so hard give me a writing award
>>338301518
you can have a normal life with ADHD but that doesn't magically make it not a mental illness
>>338301509
Never said it should breh.
Said it's a biological function, not a mental illness.
Try brushing up on your comprehension skills, yeah?
>>338301491
Only since 2005, which is hardly a LOOONNNGGGG time. Seriously, give it a generation to cycle through and once the general railing against gays getting married is gone, I don't see why it would be anything surprising in the least.
>>338301516
>writers should practice self censoring because i'm triggered
Dumbest shit I've ever heard. Drink some bleach ASAP.
>>338301564
not aggressive at all you bigoted fucking piece of shit i hope you die :^)
>people payed money for fallfag 4
>>338301516
Yes, because a character mentioning that his husband died is taking every opportunity to shout about how gay and progressive they are.
>less than 3% of the US population identify with some type of mental illness faggotry
Any actual research puts the number at around 10%.
>>338301696
It's not necessarily a mental illness. It could be something fucked up in DNA or genes or hormones or whatever. But you can't deny it's some kind of flaw / defect in their body that causes them to do shit they shouldn't be doing.
>>338299934
>>338299285
Retards
>>338301516
>Complains about developers dealing with gender politics
>Posts a game that uses an openly gay butch female soldier
Oh god, the irony hurts so fucking much.
>>338301516
>Its more nuanced than that, see, less than 3% of the US population identify with some type of mental illness faggotry so why do these devs have pandering to this special snowfalkes and we should just take it?
Sounds like you're triggered. Maybe if you take this to Reddit they'll signalboost this injustice for you and one day there will be no icky gay people in your video games.
>>338301789
Source me
>>338301676
You can take medicine that specifically counter-acts the effects of ADHD. I'm pretty sure there's no pussy pill you can take to suddenly get raging erections over tits.
>>338301796
faggot
>>338301656
But that would not carry the same sentimental weight .
>I lost somebody
K
>I lost my husband
:0
>>338301881
Retarded faggot
>>338301854
no but there is always cyanide :^)
>>338301516
Not everybody agrees with you about homosexuality being a mental illness, though.
So now you want artists to conform to your agenda rather than to write what they want.
>>338300708
>you're j-just insecure!!
>heart emoticon
>stay triggered
Could you be any more defensive and emotionally reactive? Do you know how fucking obvious you made it that you're a disease ridden faggot? Or are your eyes just too full of cum to see your own faggotry?
>>338301656
>male character says "I lost my wife."
>no one ever mentions it on 4chan
I'm sorry you're as triggered by gays as SJWs are by straights.
>>338301516
you are triggered as fuck senpai
/pol/ are literally SJWS
>>338299114
>shoving progressive stuff into a gameworld that's supposed to have the culture of 1950's America
B R A V O
>>338302130
tab back into your sargon of akkad video, cuck
>video games encouraging sin
For shame.
>>338301795
>They shouldn't be doing
You do realize that Man, as a civilization in whole, had been fucking members of the same sex since the dawn of time, right?
A hole has always been a hole, and if it makes you feel good, you stick your dick in that hole.
It wasn't until they realized that fucking a vagina is what created offspring. Still doesn't mean they weren't dicking dudes afterwords.
Hell, Most early British Colonies and Japanese colonies still PREFERRED (Known fact, search it up) having sex with other men for recreational purposes.
>>338302025
one is natural, one is not. what is so hard to understand? don't compare fags to straights because they are not the same, they are not equal, and when the time comes they will hang
>>338302216
>Post-war fallout
>1950's culture
lmao
Do we need to have a thread for every character that isn't a straight white male? Then have threads complaining that there are too many white males with shaved heads?
>>338300269
This
People asking for 'subtle' gay characters are just homophobes wanting to pretend gays don't exist.
There's nothing wrong with being a flamboyant faggot.
>>338302260
Other way around, friendo.
>>338299114
Isn't the Fallout series set in an alternate America where nuclear war destroyed society in like the 40s or 50s?
Why would sjw-culture evolve in that setting? I could see homosexuality becoming prevalent if women were scarce, but wouldn't it be violent and Mad Max-y?
>>338302130
>muh /pol/ boogeyman
>>338302130
They actually really are.
Just as bad as tumblr too.
>>338302260
Prove me wrong
>>338302130
I'm so glad other people realize this.
/pol/ is all about getting triggered by 'muh mean liberals' and 'muh mean jewish conspiracy' and whining about how oppressed the straight white man is because there's a random gay dude in a video game.
It's just as bad as Anita whining about how you can kill women in GTA.
>>338302260
>I am acting literally the same as this other group and somebody called me out on it
>I'll just post an MSpaint strawman, this changes everything
Phew, close one, good job.
>>338302385
>Isn't the Fallout series set in an alternate America where nuclear war destroyed society in like the 40s or 50s?
No.
>>338302015
Lol, so you're assuming things based on how I type?
Man, must make you really upset to know I'm not gay or bi. Bummer. <3
<3
<3
>>338299285
because fags in real life are fucking obnoxious as hell and feel the need to tell everyone. It's accurate to real life.
>getting gay married in a society with no incentives (such as in taxation) for marriage
>>338302536
Wouldn't that just mean it's retarded to get married at all? Straight or gay?
>>338302427
SJWs want to make society a better place, while /pol/ just wants to kill everyone who dares to question their cult leader Trump.
>>338302618
Mostly, but it makes more sense if you're having a child together.
>>338302372
>>338302427
ISIS
>We must terrorize the world to force them into our belief system
Anti-ISIS people
>We must do everything to stop them
The """""""Reasonable""""""" person that hates both sides
>You're both retarded.
This is literally how retarded horseshoe theory supporting morons sound
>>338302536
>Getting married hundreds and hundreds of years before incentives
WOW IT'S ALMOST LIKE WHAT HAPPENED IN REAL LIFE.
>>338302619
inb4 /pol/ sends in their TIDF. Should be careful with talking shit about Donald Trump on here, Anon.
Sure he fucking sucks and looks like a wrinkled ballsack but you should be careful.
>>338299114
i would say this is pretty subtle.
or witcher 3 where the guy literally will not tell you about his gay lover unless you are the fag that pries.
>>338302718
/pol/ are literally sjws
>>338302260
This image is /pol/'s first and last line of defense against being called out on their bullshit. I love how it's the only thing you fags ever post to defend yourself.
>>338302619
>SJWs want to make society a better place
They're all at each other's throats trying to make the world as best as possible for specifically themselves as soon as possible.
>>338299908
Not mentioning it at all.
>>338302703
But if there's no incentives to get married, surely there aren't incentives to a child having a law-bound lineage.
>>338302745
TIDF here. at least he's not "her." thank you and goodnight
>>338302495
This
>>338301516
>writers should appeal to my sensibilities. even when portraying circumstances that fall outside of reality
That logic sounds familiar... I just can't remember where I've heard that before
>check out /v/ after 2 years because it descended into shit back then
>see this thread
>cringe at the edgy/sjw polarity
>sjw faggots from reddit have infiltrated /v/
>deflectors now form a majority of /v/ posters
This board is dead,you ruined it normies.
>>338302719
Between people who can't start a family?
>>338301751
If they insists on pandering to these special snowflakes, im sure theres better ways to do it than just hamfist I AM SO GAY writing or magically make non gay established characters into faggots. Like actually making a good character that just so happens to be gay but, never even makes a deal about it, how about that? Do they have to be LOOK AT ME I LOVE HUGE DICKS!!!?
>>338301789
Research says less than 3%, so fuck off. But for the sake of your stupidity, 10% is still fucking low, why do they have to pander to these mentally ill fags? Is it guilt or virtue signalling by devs?
>>338301825
Its an just image fucking moron, is that the only thing you saw in my post? Wow, you got me, I am sooooo burned.
>>338301835
Typical regressive, ignore whatever was said, just insult. GTFO.
>>338299114
>fags
>saying husband
they all say partner, NEVER have i heard any of them call their spouse husband
>>338302718
Actually it's more like comparing ISIS to Israel, which is literally the same thing but with foreign support and 60 years down the line.
>>338302718
Wrong, kiddo.
ISIS:
>We must terrorize the world to force them into our belief system
Anti-ISIS:
>If you don't arm yourselves now and treat every Muslim as a potential suspect and don't you dare show empathy towards them because you might become a terrorist, then you are literally going to get bombed in your homes.
It's fear-mongering on both sides.
>>338299789
>subtlety
Which would be what?
It has taken the person of indeterminate gender that I've married?
Youre literally just shocked he said husband. If he said wife you wouldnt blink an eye.
>>338301756
>payed
>>338302372
>>338302427
>>338302441
>>338302619
>>338302745
>>338302803
>>338302828
>>338299285
Fuck off SJW
>>338302990
"""Traditional"""" couples say husband
>>338302942
>/pol/ is triggered nobody likes them
>>338301420
If you want to have a homosexual character:
"My friend got taken."
Have him appear over the top emotional, with crying, stronger facial expressions yada yada...
Basically... I don't believe he would refer to a man as his husband in this world and situation. Your concept of marriage probably got erased as well. And I figure a homo would not call his boyfriend husband at this point. ESPECIALLY not publicly, and not to a stranger.
Let the player figure it out if he cares enough. Don't simply spell it out.
>>338299950
>But if he had a wife, he'd say the same shit with "wife" in the place of "husband."
For the reasons I just stated, no. The concept of marriage was traditionally between a women and man. I can believe it lives through the apocalypse, even without the church and formalities. Calling your spouse wife makes sense.
>>338302495
Thanks for just announcing to everyone that youre straight.
>>338303083
>the group wants me to cut my arm and legs off
>this other group wants to have me hung
>I don't think I want to be a part of either
>lol why don't u pick a side fagot
Christ, people fucking died for your right to be a conscientious objector and somehow /pol/ is against even that because it doesn't promote their ideals.
>>338299908
Partner
In NZ it's frequent to call someone a partner. Outside of the gender neutrality which wasn't the intention, just a side detail, it also includes relationships that aren't based on marriage. If you're not a teenager and have been living with your SO for more than two years the GF/BF tag makes you sound like an adolescent fool, thus partner.
>>338302427
It looks like this was made by a newfag. Probably someone who alternates between Rebbit and 4clams.
/pol/ only calls you a shill if you butt in like a retard into a topic with bullshit non arguments.
/pol/ calls out the Jews where credit is due. Its not an all around go to response. (newfags believe this and other newfags will tell you that /pol/ is satire but the truth is Jews are behind it 95% percent of the time)
/pol/'s definition of degeneracy applies to obvious outright nonsensical bullshit. SJW's will cry about a white guy breathing next to them.
/pol/ doesn't have an ultimate goal except of course for removing the Jew and ushering in the 4th Reich.
/pol/ Will never advocate censorship. They are literally open to any argument and add insult to injury by calling you a faggot and nigger after winning said argument. SJW's will literally flash mob people for disagreeing with them.
>>338302472
I now realize I'm being b8ed.
>>338299114
Depends on the context in which the information is provided. If there is literally no reason to mention whatever the gender of your partner is, it always comes off as forcing the subject. But if there is a very good reason to provide this info, it shouldn't matter if the character is a homo or heterosexual. They'd just be telling you something relevant to the context.
Unfortunately, many writers seem to think that including a blatantly homosexual character who literally flaunts his excessive homosexuality as a character trait is inclusive instead of being very intrusive. But if a well written character just happens to be a homo, and this trait does not define the character...why care? Almost nobody would care, because contrary to popular belief this homophobe mentality they are crusading against died a long time ago for most people.
>>338302360
Because far too often, the character in question is distilled to that singular, defining trait. "Look at us, we've included a token gay character."
This isn't just a problem in video games, of course, but on the whole. Society pushes so hard for inclusion (not necessarily a problem in itself, for what that's worth) that people are reduced to caricatures of themselves - "I am a white man" or "I am gay," rather than "I am a living, breathing, human being with my own myriad qualities and faults."
Characters like those listed above exist for no other purpose but to arbitrarily include a minority, with no defining quality but the most superficial, such that faux-progressive devs can pat themselves on the back for "doing their part."
This website is funny
>>338301190
>o_O
It's like I'm back in 2003.
>>338302718
>>338303083
>two groups of retards screaming and flinging shit at each other on the street
>"you have to agree with one not taking a side is just dumb"
>>338303243
>somehow /pol/ is against even that because it doesn't promote their ideals.
I love how newfags act like /pol/ has some kind of ideology. It's literally an imageboard that people shitpost about politics and current events on. Fuck off you huge retard. There are just as many free speech fundamentalists as there are stormfags that post on /pol/.
>>338300490
>>338302015
whats wrong sissy boy? no bull to abuse you're hole today?
>>338303380
>/pol/ Will never advocate censorship.
Have you ever actually been on /pol/ faggot? It's the biggest hugbox on the internet
>>338303419
Railing against Bethesda for forcing gay characters seems dumb because Bethesda has a hard enough time making a character to begin with, much less making them some kind of gay propaganda.
If that kind of thing gets your goat, go get mad at Bioware because they've been the ones guilty of that time and time again. Bethesda is just retarded.
>>338299114
>marriage as a viable institution
>in the post apocalypse
Why would there even be husbands or wives in that setting?
>>338302906
>Mentioning that your husband was killed is being obnoxious
Oh /v/...
>>338303161
>For the reasons I just stated, no.
But all your reasons are just vague feelings about the world 200 years after a retro-futuristic alternate history world apocalypse.
We don't even know the state of gay marriage before the bombs fell.
Meanwhile, there were gay relationships in the games going all the way back to Fallout 2.
>>338301491
>gays are denied basic equal rights
>"keep crying about how [gays] are a victim"
You ain't the sharpest tool in the shed, are ya?
>>338301114
>muh nature fallacy
Kek
>>338303616
How is the character forced?
>>338300916
>frogposter thinks he has any merit to talk about mental illness
lmaoing at your life pal
>>338299114
why take the time to sew those patches onto that shitty shirt
why not just toss it and get a different shirt
>>338303454
You know for example you can support Gamergate without doing the "evil things" you probably imagine they do
Yet I never see SJWs able to not stick their noses where it doesn't belong
>>338303742
Because hes a different sexuality than hes used to.
[color=99ff66]>implying homosexuality isn't natural[/color]
*equips flame shield*
get over it!
[img]http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/052/812/Deal_with_it_dog_gif.gif[/img]
>>338301509
>a girl having consensual sex with a girl or a guy with a guy is equivalent to eating or raping a fellow human being
good one XD
>>338303742
That's the thing, the Bethesda character isn't. Hell, Bethesda can't even write enough of a character to force anything at all. People getting mad about a very innocent line of dialogue from what could be replaced with a fucking MMORPG quest board confuses me to no end.
>If Fallout NV came out today /v/ would shit on it because Arcade is gay.
>>338301607
God you are so insensitive
I dont have a problem with anything
anon asked how to make a gay reference subtle, I tried to provide
>>338303662
Gays are denied basic HUMAN rights in the middle east yet I never see SJW cucks like you complaining about it.
>>338303616
Do note that I wasn't deriding Bethesda in particular.
>>338303921
just because something isn't legally regarded as a crime doesn't mean it's not objectively wrong and immoral. in a perfect world, fags would be punished to the same degree as rapists.
>>338299285
Literally no matter what they do you complain about it.
>>338303534
Let me guess, you posted something retarded and thought people would kindly respond to you and instead you called a faggot for being the moron you are and got all emotionally assblasted, then called it censorship.
A hugbox is a place where people will go out of their way to stop any and all forms of dissent and opposing opinions. If /pol/ was indeed a hugbox you'd see mods torching any and all forms of threads and comments that don't agree with a preset agenda for the board.
Its a board literally called politically incorrect. Your opinion isn't going to be safe from criticism and you will get shit on by people who disagree. This isn't censorship.
>>338301890
>I lost my husband
Die faggot. FTFY
>Make on-topic but politically incorrect post/thread on /v/
>Newfag redditors come in to whine about their boogeyman board
Like clockwork.
>>338302619
>SJWs want to make society a better place
So we should adjust our morality to value intentions more than deeds? Those same SJW have fucked communities more than "le evil white male boogymen maymay" did in all their evil plotting against the common man ( this is the consensus on what sjws believe-tinfoil tier retards ).
>people interested in politics with a traditionalist/conservative outlook are portrayed as bigots and cretins
Everyone is a zoon politikon whether you like it or not. And the fact that shitposters on /pol/ act as defenders of western virtues is only a testament to the fact that we are in the final stage of civilizational lifetime. Keep fapping to Overwatch waifus and playing DS3 all day long while wasting your life,that will surely affect the putcome of geopolitical and sociological perturbations.
>>338304049
Explain how two adults agreeing to have sex with each other and thus having said sex is immoral and equivalent to rape, which is forcing sex on someone who does not want sex.
>>338304102
I dare you to go start a thread on why you agree with some of Bernie or Hillary's ideas. You will be shitposted to hell and back ages before you will get any kind of actual discussion.
What's wrong? He literally just says my husband is gone. The fact that people are getting triggered by this just proves you are as insecure as the SJWS. BAKA DESU SENPAI.
>>338303774
And how much time do you spend in places where SJW's hang out?
You only see the the SJWs sticking their noses out because you are only in places where SJWs are only going to go if they're sticking their noses.Or worse yet, images of their absolute worst paraded around like they're the norm.
Funfact: They have the exact same experience of you. It's the reason that, as you say yourself, SJWs almost certainly imagine everyone involved in gamergate does evil monstrous things.
You're two groups of monkeys throwing shit at demons on the wall.
>>338303986
Except they do all the time but they have no possible way to make a difference in nondemocratic countries on the other side of the world.
>>338303986
This is an anonymous image board where we talk about video games.
The next time Mahmoud Interactive launches a AAA FPS where the goal is to throw gay men off the rooves of 15 story apartment buildings, we'll talk.
>>>338303660
>We don't even know the state of gay marriage before the bombs fell.
You assume it's a random fantasy world. I just assume it's somewhat similiar to our 60s.
>Meanwhile, there were gay relationships in the games going all the way back to Fallout 2.
I don't mind gay relationships. I haven't played F2, so I cannot say anything about that. But let's assume that's the case:
My point is ~ as a writer, your readers perception is important. You need to convey the feelings you wan't them to feel. Now, a lot of us feel like they try to push an agenda. The 90s however, have been a different time. As silly as it sounds, I believe I'd found the exact same line more acceptable back then!
When your argument goes: "It's a fantasy world, we don't know how society differs from ours." ...you always have to assume we perceive it in our own RL-context. Which right now is ~ progressives try to push their agendas. Which actually means you need to tip-toe more around these issues.
That's just my opinion anyways. If the write wanted to invoke other feelings in me, he failed. That's the point, isn't it?
>it's ok when obsidian does it
>>338303960
/v/ wouldn't be THAT retarded. Would it?
>>338304102
Fun fact, that's the same thing that happens if you disagree with SJWs in their havens.
Just replace faggot and moron with bigot and triggering.
neutral master race reporting in
i may vote but i may not.
>>338304278
>Except they do all the time
Then why do they support immigration for the people that want to bring back the ability to hang fags in their new country?
>>338303986
Every non-retarded regressive leftists gays hate Islam and the middle east. I see what's happening in Europe and I don't want goddamn mudslimes refugees coming in my country with their backwards primitive culture.
>>338304218
because it just is faggot. in a perfect world, you'd understand.
>>338304365
imagine san andreas getting released today
>>338304352
>I just assume it's somewhat similiar [sic] to our 60s.
It's not. You admit yourself you haven't even played the games, so why are you trying to talk like an authority on it?
I don't like fags but that gay hunter character, Mislav, CD Projekt Red put into the Witcher 3 game was pretty well done. Very minor character but still likable.
>>338304229
>agreeing with killary's ideas
who does this?
>people complaining about how it's not subtle
How could it get more subtle he just says my husband. That's it.
>>338304596
But youre a fag.
>all the redditors ITT this triggered over /pol/
>>338304687
Your mums a fag faggot
>>338304452
>this is what lurks behind anime avatars
>>338304723
>all these /pol/cucks getting assblasted over a video game
you wouldn't have a problem with the game saying "It has taken my wife." why do you have a problem with it saying "it has taken my husband?"
The most subtle way to treat homosexuality is to treat it as if it's not some earthshattering thing.
>>338304723
They're always the first to bring up the board too. It's fucking obnoxious.
>>338299114
Please tell me this is fake, they CAN NOT BE PULLING A FUCKING UBISOFT.
>>338304723
>>338304596
The Witcher features a decent amount gay characters.
>Ciri (bi)
>dethmold(gay)
>gay hunter
>Philippa
>Triss (bi at least with Philippa)
>some other minor characters
>>338304723
>all the /pol/tards ITT this triggered over /v/ wanting them to fuck off
>>338304352
>You assume it's a random fantasy world. I just assume it's somewhat similiar to our 60s.
But you can't really make either assumption. Just because there were cars with fins, that doesn't mean everybody hated gay people or that blacks boys in Alabama got lynched for whistling at white women.
>The 90s however, have been a different time. As silly as it sounds, I believe I'd found the exact same line more acceptable back then!
That is silly. Your acceptance of a completely benign line changes because of what the writer's intention might be.
>That's just my opinion anyways. If the write wanted to invoke other feelings in me, he failed. That's the point, isn't it?
The writer probably just wanted to set up the next quest. I don't think they ever expected someone to bawl because of this.
We can agree that the writing quality is bad, I just don't think it has anything to do with the guy being gay and everything to do with rushed emotional motivation.
>>338304882
>attempting to use a /pol/ meme against /pol/
>literally cucking yourself by having to use /pol/ memes
Nice try senpai
>>338304884
>you wouldn't have a problem with the game saying "It has taken my wife." why do you have a problem with it saying "it has taken my husband?"
Cause it's not the norm you cuck
A black guy from Africa is not surprising, a white guy from Africa is surprising
>>338304352
>I haven't played F2
How about you bow the fuck out of this thread and every other thread for the rest of your life until you have?
Fucking idiot.
>>338304229
>agreeing with Bernie or Hillary
Why in god's cock would someone be so stupid? You deserve to get shitposted to death if you go on /pol/ to talk about how much you love their shitty policies. Use a little common sense. There is a reason why Hillary and Bernie are losing. Socialism is shit and you don't have to be brain dead to see why Hillary is full of lies.
>>338304375
No you're comparing apples to oranges. You won't get immediately banned from /pol/ for posting dissenting opinions. You won't get entire essay replies about how much of a cruel person you are. Bigot and triggering are worlds apart from faggot and moron. How could you be this fucking retarded?
Man, the sexual tension in this thread, you can cut it with a knife.
>>338299908
Maybe if he said partner and when you go find them yo see that it's a man. The way it's written makes the assumption that you can't put that together yourself so you need to be told that they are gay.
>>338305131
>>How about you bow the fuck out of this thread and every other thread for the rest of your life until you have?
>Implying FO3, FNV or FO4 cucks have ever actually played FO1 and FO2
You have too much faith in society.
>>338303502
This, I see anarcho communists on there, /v/ is so contrarian it refuses to take a side
>>338301016
One of my best friends is a psychiatrist. He's likea real life Doug from the House of Cards.
I swear to god, most psychiatrists are fucking weird and socially inept, ever since I met his friends I've been totally convinced that psychiatry isn't trust worthy
>>338304229
>I dare you to make a thread in which you say your opinion about bernie/hillary programs
>opinion
>OPINION
You wouldnt be shitposted to oblivion if you actually provided reasoning behind your opinions. It turns out that 99.99% percent of people who come to /pol/ to discuss about their opinions get buttravaged by people who have heard the same arguments numerous times over. If you presented your opinion with solid arguments,empirical reasoning and rudimentary understanding of economics/geopolitics you wouldnt get shitposted on so easily.
>/pol/ hasn't played Fallout 2
>/pol/ never actually played videogames until they realized they could use them as a platform to push their agenda
This surprises who, exactly?
>>338301607
>You faggots would have no problem with this if he said "my wife" instead
Neither would the characters in a post apocalyptic setting with 1960's mentalities. Married gays would probably get lynched faster than synths would.
>>338305251
Wait are /pol/tards dumb enough to think Trump is going to beat Hillary? Kek.
>>338304375
Kill yourself Sargon
>>338305110
>A black guy from Africa is not surprising, a white guy from Africa is surprising
Ignoring the large number of white South Africans,
There's a difference between being surprised and having a problem with something.
Why you would actually have a problem with some random inconsequential NPC with a dead husband is beyond me.
>>338305110
About 8% of South Africans are whites. But since they're not the norm, according to you, they shouldn't appear in any narratives set in South Africa?
>>338305251
>You deserve to get shitposted to death if you go on /pol/ to talk about how much you love their shitty policies.
>It doesn't count as censorship if it's something I disagree with
Literally the same argument SJWs make. Censorship is censorship.
>>338305378
>a post apocalyptic setting with 1960's mentalities
But that's not true at all.
>>338305251
Christ almighty, you couldn't even pretend to discuss something that doesn't fit into your hugbox.
>>338299114
This is taking things a bit too far
If he had a wife he would have said wife instead of husband
for fucks sake /v/ stop getting triggered over nonsense
>>338301254
Maybe because marriage is clearly defined contract between biological MALE and FEMALE thus two husbands or wives causes confusion.
>>338305270
I was hoping for more pics, I'm just disappointed
>>338304229
Actually, I did a bait thread about weed once and there were actual responses other than "DUDE WEED LMAO"
Why don't you check /pol/ out before shitting on it? I did the same thing til i checked it out for curiosity.
t.left libertarian
>>338299908
>How would you make it more subtle?
Usage of the word 'partner' instead of 'husband'. Partner could be a business partner--a "partner-in-crime" to embark on adventures with.
But instead, they use the word 'husband' to announce to everyone that they're gay, even if no one wanted to know or care if they're gay.
>"Thank you, adventurer. By the way, I'm SOOO gay!"
It's like when women constantly reference that they have a vagina.
>"Hi. Gamer girl here." *cringeworthy girly giggle*
>>338305478
>>338305519
How about this: You post your REPUBLICAN opinion and say you support Gamergate on Neogaf
You can support Hillary and Bernie on /pol/ without getting banned
You guys are fucking stupid.
>>338305569
Thanks captain bible, I'll be sure to come back to when I need to know what I should make my clothes out of.
>>338305110
you're playing a video game, 75% of the things happening in it "aren't the norm"
also a white guy from africa isn't that surprising considering they're 8% of the population in south africa and namibia
>>338305512
Sadly true, because Bethesda can't stick to writing their own established world correctly to save their life.
>>338305378
>Neither would the characters in a post apocalyptic setting with 1960's mentalities.
How many times do people have to point out that the entire point of fallout is that that is not true? Or have you only played bethesda's shitty games.
>It's another "Newfag redditors literally can't stop being triggered by another board's mere existence" thread
>>338299285
>game writers
Bethesda writers, you mean?
>>338304579
>You admit yourself you haven't even played the games, so why are you trying to talk like an authority on it?
I do not want to imply that. Most people never played the old games in any case. My point is simply, a good writer focuses an what feelings he wants to invoke and how he can do that to as many people as possible. While avoiding discussions like the one we are having right here. You gotta admit, that this threads very existence means a lot of players disliked how it is handled. And it wasn't always like this. It started in the last few years. Even *if* this were lore-friendly and acceptable (i can't judge), a good writer would acknowledge these problems and work around them.
That''s probably all from me, since this thread is gonna reach it's limit soon.
>>338305251
>You won't get immediately banned from /pol/ for posting dissenting opinions
I have. I got a three-day ban a while ago. They said it was for trolling or spamming or something, but I really just criticized some posters for being edgy kids who don't think about their ideology with any critical eye and just regurgitate what they get from their hugbox.
>>338305613
Shitposting threads that go against your ideas is just as much self-moderation as you can get. It's the same thing as NeoGaf for the right, you just lack the personal power to ban anyone.
>>338299114
In the character's defence, dude looks pretty gay
>>338305613
If Neogaf wasn't gated as shit I would literally do that right now. The problem with those shitholes isn't that they're SJW havens, it's that they're not anonymous. Dissenting opinions from random fags with 3 posts get ignored regardless of what they are.
>>338305131
Guess what you little special snowflake; even the DEVELOPERS of F3 did NOT play the previous games for the most part.
>>338305673
>implying the bible isn't real
>implying God isn't real
Fuck off atheist fag.
>>338305595
There's a difference between:
>My husband died.
and
>I love to suck cocks 24/7 and my bottom bitch faggot husbae died.
You may legit have autism.
>>338301516
calm down hot head
get on /fit/ every now and then and work out those issues you have
>>338300490
>1950s cultural norms
End this meme. Bethesda's fallouts are literally the only games that perpetuate this. in the first 2 fallouts the retrofuturism was just aesthetic, not the developer's go to philosophy for writing their pre-war america. Fallout isn't "photocopy the 50s and add a layer of apocalypse", it's "Mad Max a wasteland with vague zeerust retrofuturism in the backdrop"
>>338299908
Like in NV. Veronica will tell you that her love interest was a female only if you specifically ask her about their history. Also, that one sniper in 1st recon.
>>338305892
>implying I said either of those things
Calm down, kiddo.
>>338302360
Except for the whole flamboyant part
>>338305131
#triggered
fucking win
>>338305697
But there were gay relationships and a female President in Fallout 2. You can make a badass female starting with Fallout 1. This isn't even Bethesda. The world of Fallout isn't the world of the 60s and never has been.
>>338299908
Arcade Ganon was quite subtle about it. He didn't rub it in your face that he was gay. You had to talk to him a lot to discover that, and even then, it was litteraly one sentence saying like "lovers make for poor confidents" but turned in a way that you understand that he likes men. And that's it. I didn't know he was gay until /v/ told me and I re-read his dialogues carefully.
>>338301849
Not him but wiki says its like 2-11%
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_demographics_of_the_United_States
I think the main idea of the nazi guy was that they are a ridiculously small minority. Which I understand. They are about as small a minority as nazis.
>Thread about a complaint for fallout centering around subtleness
>BCK TO /POL/!!!!!!!!!
what happened man, what happened.
>>338305937
So gays should just hide any details that reveals thier homosexuality just to cater to you? But it's fine for Nathan Drake to have multiple romantic interests and sexual tension?
What are some approved stormfront games?
>>338305765
>Most people never played the old games in any case.
>This excuses the writers ignoring them to pander
You don't belong on /v/.
Fuck off to whatever shithole you crawled out of.
