>makes RTS game
>dominates the entire RTS genre
>makes hack'n'slash game
>dominates the entire hack'n'slash genre
>makes MMORPG
>dominates the entire MMORPG genre
>makes card game
>dominates the entire card game genre
>makes class based FPS
>???
Seriously, is there anything Blizzard can't do?
Nostcucks please stay out of thread
Make a good game
>>338290204
>dominates card game genre
HA
>>338290235
Is right.
>>338290204
I wouldnt say diablo is a hack and slash, not anymore at least. I think It got overtaken by more action focused games, ranging from gow to more curazy like DMC.
Diablo is more of a action rpg dungon crawler. It did start its own "item progression" which is used is several.other games, though
I wouldn't say dominate, except maybe for MMORPG's. But they are big names in every genre they enter.
>>338290204
>dominates the entire card game genre
Online card games yes.
But all card games, lol no.
They'll never see another cent of my money
same with activision, not that it matters at this point cause they're already rich as fuck
>>338290204
>>makes card game
>>dominates the entire card game genre
no
>neo-blizz succeeding at anything
>>338290443
>HA
What are you laughing at faggot? They objectively do
>>338290737
They succeeded with HS, failed with HotS, succeeded with Overwatch
because their games are for filthy casuals you faget
>RTS is dead
>Hackenslash is dead
>MMOs are dead
>Card games zombified
>Class based FPS never existed as a genre
>>338290235
this desu senpai
>>338290204
also if what hack n slash game did they make that dominated the hack n slash genre you dumbfuck op?
>dominates the entire card game genre
No
>dominates the entire MMORPG genre
a memegame perpetrated by normies isnt dominating , WoW is easily surpassed by many other games
>dominates the entire RTS genre
subjective, i still think age of empires is the pinnacle of RTS
>>338290894
Is there even a metric on whether HotS is a failure or not? I'd consider SMITE to be a failure right now, but it's still popular.
>>338290725
That's what I said after Diablo 3's initial release.
But after playing Overwatch's beta I might buy it, gave me old TF2 nostalgia.
Just some casual shooting fun.
>>338290657
>Wizards of the Coast can't make a decent online MTG to save thier lives
>>338290894
Are you a time traveler?
>>338290204
>Makes a moba
>not even /v/ remembers it
>>338290204
>dominates the entire RTS genre
They didnt. AoE and C&C were the other big guys at the time. Only SC2 is special because its the last big budget RTS.
>>338290204
>Conveniently leave out MOBAs
Also they're not dominating shit nowadays. RTS/ARPG/MMO/Card games are all stagnant as fuck with only 2 or 3 competitor games or just straight up dead genres. It's not hard to "dominate" electronic card games when the only legit competition you have is WotC who are fucking idiots.
>Starcraft 2
Dead
>Diablo 3
Dead
>WoW
Slowly dying;__;
>Overwatch
Give it two months.
>>338290204
>makes a MOBA game
>laughing stock of the entire genre
>>338290204
>dominates online card game
Nope. Square Enix does, on account of having the entire Asian population playing pic.
>>338290979
I don't know but I would definitely say so
>>338291051
>biggest beta ever
>almost only positive feedback
Yep success
>>338290204
Blizzard is a meme company.
People buy their shit because they are popular and not because they make quality products.
>>338290204
>makes an rts game
that they decided to be anti-consumer with and come out with the last one in 3 parts costing you over $200
>makes a hack'nslash game
with p2w crap
>makes mmorpg
that they ruined over the years and now its a huge pile of crap when other games like bdo and ffxiv are better
>makes a card game
p2w
>makes a class based fps
that gave into sjws the only good thing from it is the faps i've gotten
>>338291357
do...do girls play it too?
>>338290794
not even the same guy but HA
>>338291463
How come they are popular?
>>338291374
>>biggest beta ever
>>almost only positive feedback
Yeah, Diablo 3 had a huge beta that held nothing but positive feedback.
How did that turn out? Oh yeah, even with ROS ripping out the core systems that screwed the game over, it can now barely get 2 thousand players online at the same time.
Fuck that noise.
>>338290631
what about MOBA?
>>338291473
EVERYONE does. Even the kids playing the 3DS.
>>338291657
I have no idea. It's all F2P crap anyways.
>>338291643
>Yeah, Diablo 3 had a huge beta that held nothing but positive feedback.
Didn't the beta only cover the first half of Act 1? Bit hard to formulate an opinion on the game when you're not allowed to play it.
>>338290952
ok anon i agree with eveything but the last one what about hat fortress?
>>338291352
this guy gets it
>>338291579
They made quality products at some point in the past.
They don't anymore.
People keep buying their shit anyway. It's a meme.
>>338291863
>Bit hard to formulate an opinion on the game when you're not allowed to play it.
The problems of Diablo 3 were noticeable even in the first act. The problems didn't just magically appear after it. They were part of the game when it shipped.
>>338291873
Literally the only one of its kind.
>>338290235
First post literally best post. Blizzard hasn't made a game worth a fuck since after WotLK
holy shit.
>>338292020
So they're American Nintendo.
>>338290204
Nicely avoiding HotS
>>338291873
Hat Fortress is dead.
They are still people playing it, but it's dead.Can't wake up.
>>338290204
>Seriously, is there anything Blizzard can't do?
Not be fucking jews since they joined Activision.
Who the fuck would honestly say that Blizzard does not release quality, polished products? They aren't perfect but this whole "meme company, meme games" thing is ridiculous and does not exist in real world conversation.
Just internet shit-spewing.
>>338290443
It's the most played card game in the world by far.
>>338292254
>quality, polished products
Which have all been sterile as fuck since 2008.
>>338292069
Not that guy, but yeah pretty much.
>>338292254
First day here?
>>338290794
The ending of that "you can do anything" skit Key and Peele did was aimed directly at people like you.
>>338292375
People like Nintendo though. Especially here. Nobody likes Blizzard besides normies because they want to be "nerds."
>>338290973
Shit opinions: post discarded.
>>338292254
>Who the fuck would honestly say that Blizzard does not release quality, polished products?
Nobody who isn't being disingenuous.
Releasing a "quality, polished product" is a far cry from releasing something with any kind of substance though. Blizzard have become nothing more than expert turd polishers over the years.
>>338292057
WotLK was trash you fucking cuck.
>takes someone else's idea
>copies it
>throws money at it
Guys I think I've cracked their business strategy!!!!
>>338290204
>>dominates the entire RTS genre
Xcom, c&c, aoe are better
>>dominates the entire hack'n'slash genre
Casualized d3 and Grim dawn is infinitely better
>>dominates the entire MMORPG genre
WOW is losing subs and hasn't release a good expansion since TBC
>>dominates the entire card game genre
Magic is and always will be the better card game
>>makes class based FPS
Riding on good marketing and hype, tf2 won't die and there's a good reason why
Did I miss anything blizzcuck?
>>338291217
>7
>>338291357
I want to fuck that card.
>>338290204
>Conveniently forgetting heroes of the deadgame
>>338290584
>Diablo is more of a action rpg dungon crawler
isn't it an isometric rpg.
I know for sure it is not a hack and slash
>>338291352
I wanted to post this. Good Anon
>>338292671
>basing success on how much you liked it.
Sales are the only thing that matters
>>338290204
>Seriously, is there anything Blizzard can't do?
Dominate anything after they killed their franchises.
>>338291357
She looks at least 9000 years old.
>>338290204
>Starcraft 2
>Diablo 3
>World of Warcraft
>Hearthstone
>Heroes of the Storm
>Blizzard
>Good games
choose
one
>>338290204
>no competition
>grimdawn and PoE are better
>mobile tier genre
>no competition, shit game
>worse than TF2 and battleborn
I guess we know who is winning the special olympics this year.
>>338291352
is the still the general consensus?
hots is actually veryfun
not that /v/ actually cares about that
>>338291357
This is kind of sick, Jesus.
It can't make a competent sequel to D2.
>>338291579
Blizzard has always done the exact same fucking thing since warcraft 1
Take game they like.
Casualize it.
Get massive sales.
The only thing that has changed is their older fanbase growing up.
>>338292057
>Wrathbabby
WotLK was fucking garbage after the high that was TBC
>>338290204
>>makes MMORPG
>>ruins the entire MMORPG genre
FTFY
>>338290235
this 2bh
Pandering to normies.
>>338291873
TF2 is dead.
Blizzard didn't kill it.
Valve killed it.
>>338292623
It was amazing until the ICC drought and you know it you salty bastard.
I hears zero complaints from fellow vanilla/BC players until that fucking drought. It was the beginning of the end man. After that, they realized they could get away with that shit all the damn time. They STILL do it. Each xpac since WotLK has had massive content droughts and half-assed content whether it be lore-wise or otherwise.
>>338297347
>TBCucks at it again
You beloved expansion introduced flight mounts, esports arena bullshit, welfare epics and general casualisation through removal of attunements and decreasing xp requirements to level. Everything wrong with WoW started in tbc.
>>338292354
Doesn't make it good.
Is hearthstone good?
>>338297820
Depends, how much money do you feel like spending?
>>338297579
So there wasn't any good gear / raid progression and varied content in tbc, just flying mounts and stuff that slowly got patched in afterwards towards the end of the expansion. Gotcha senpai
>>338298093
$50
>>338298460
not good enough, anon
>>338298460
Then no.
Blizzard power creeped teh fuck out of that game starting with the first set of new card packs. Expect to burn $300, at least, to even get on par with other players' decks.
>>338298370
So there wasn't any good gear / raid progression and varied content in wotlk, just ret paladins and stuff that slowly got patched in afterwards towards the end of the expansion. Gotcha senpai.
>>338297542
>I hears zero complaints from fellow vanilla/BC players until that fucking drought
You must have been fucking deaf. People were complaining the moment they said Naxx would be the first tier, and the complaints only got worse when the dungeon finder was added.
>>338298652
If you say so. By the time I was clearing Heroic Ulduar with my buds that shit must have settled down.
>>338290204
Yo forgot they failed to dominate MOBA (but they are doing decent though).
I'm in a weird spot: I'm a console player at heart but consoles being shit has moved me to PC. I have tried but I just don't enjoy the typical FPS/WRPG/RTS/MOBA genres.Since they seem to excel at competitive genres and are trying to expand their domination to the console market I would be very interested to see them make a fighting game or a brawler.
>dominate
what a weird way to say "obliterate the genre to the point nobody plays it anymore"
>Makes MOBA
>it's super successful
Blizzard just can't fail!
"We have millions of players. We have a team of 150+ developers making stuff. We patch every 3-4 weeks. Is good.=)"
https://twitter.com/DustinBrowder/status/733336511819616256
>>338290204
I agree with all but the card game one. Hearthstone blows ass and Magic with always be the king.
>>338298370
>good gear / raid progression
That also was present in vanilla.
Hearthstone is currently the most profitable blizzard game right now, they release more and more cards and you must pay at some point to keep up the pace with the meta...
>>338297236
And other as popular as Hearthstone in Asia and made by Square Enix.
>>338301532
And people don't think this is creepy at all? Not even a normie and I don't like this.
>>338301640
Why? It's not a real person so I don't see why it would be creepy.
>>338290204
>Make RTS game
>RTS genre is dead
>Make hack'n'slash game
>Hack'n'slash genre is dead
>Make MMORPG
>MMORPG genre is dead
>Make card game
>Card games are dead
>Make class based FPS
>???
Every genre Blizzard have invested into heavily has suffered for it in the long run, to the extreme that most of these genres are dead or just full of total shit now.
>>338301640
Square Enix doesn't care. It makes mad fuck ass money and Japan adults and kids LOVE it.
>>338292020
>that pic
I legit lol'd.
>>338290443
probably digital card game genre
>>338290204
Blizzard is like LucasArts.
They were pioneers in one genre in a time were nothing like their product was available.
Sadly, without taking out the nostalgia googles you see how mediocre have been everything they've done in the past years.
If you buy a product just because it has a brand in it then you are the cancer killing the videogame industry and you will probably have any single FIFA and CoD in your house collecting dust because you are waiting for the next game of franchises whom only upgrades on their games are literal re-skins of their vidya.
Sad.
>>338290204
The truth is... The more casual a game is, the more fun it is.
/v/ hates fun. That's why /v/ hates Blizzard.
>>338304191
Right, that's why everyone thinks that Hearthstone is "Magic the Gathering: Small minds edition."
Or why Wow is literally a facebook game.
Or how Overmeme tries to pander to EVERY FUCKING DEMOGRAPHIC for them to sell copies.
The only 2 good sagas coming from Blizzard were the warcraft games and the lost viking games.
>>338292254
polished yes. quality ? arguable. The real cost of Blizzard games are super expensive. I feel like competitors could release just as polished if they could get away with charging as much as Blizzard does.
>>338304517
>Overmeme tries to pander to EVERY FUCKING DEMOGRAPHIC
This isn't even a problem, though. Catering to your audiences, making sure they have characters they like...etc. is not a bad thing.
>>338304896
Videogames started to die when companies tried to do exactly this.
If you really think that the highest vidya demographic is not "males from 12-30" years then I don't know what do you have in mind.
>>338290204
>Seriously, is there anything Blizzard can't do?
Make a good game
>>338305106
I suppose I'd have to know in exactly which ways they are pandering. I will agree that perhaps being very simple and casual friendly has had a kind of lowest common denominator like effect, but I can't really see much else besides Zarya.
>>338290204
>implying Blizzard will easily dominate when they have an opposing force just as big if not bigger then they are especially when the opposing force has its own huge fanbase.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UthQ2gR1bU4I dont even play Dota 2 or CSgo but they're a testament of the Valve fanbase with TF2 being part of it aswell,
>>338305342
Mei is there to embodie the average tumblr poster girl. The glasses, the obvious overweight, the hair...
Then you have Reaper that is literally "xXdArkhAxx66Xx- the character" suited for edgy kids.
We can then move on to Zarya, pandering to the lgbt community.
Several waifus that are literally a piece of meat with skills and voice over, etc.
All wrapped up in a game too casual to be competitive and too competitive to be taken as a casual game, just like League of Legends.
Said games are doomed to lose popularity and playerbase if they don't patch it every month or every 2 weeks because they get boring after the first month of playing.
>>338305693
I do agree regarding the difficulty. I'm interested in seeing just how far that will go. I'm fine with the characters however, I like seeing different ideas and types of characters.
>>338305934
Yeah but diversity and originality doesn't serve as the pilars for a good game, gameplay does.
Take a look at Tree of Savior, for instance. 80 classes, few are viable, stale gameplay, a total failure.
If they don't refresh the playerbase constantly with updates and patches the game will last 2 months.
This is not league of dota, people will pay money for it.
>>338290235
>what is diablo 2
>what is warcraft 3 (provided the base game is trash, but the custom games are amazing)
>>338306114
>Yeah but diversity and originality doesn't serve as the pilars for a good game, gameplay does.
I also agree. I'm just pointing out I liked the ideas. I don't think overwatch is a bad game. I found it rather fun, I just think it needs to be slightly more complex.
overwatch has the most fucking obnoxious character design
>>338306373
Yeah, exactly what you said.
>>338290204
>makes MOBA
>fails
>makes puzzle platformer
>fails
>makes racing game
>fails
>tries to make a TPS
>kills another company while failing as well
;)
>>338306939
lost vikings was popular as hell
>>338290204
The answer is: marketing.
>>338301872
Because they are so successful.
That's why all mmo games are wow clones, and
all hack n slash rpgs are diablo clones
If knock-offs didn't work so well, we'd see a ton more interesting games.
>>338292090
this
>>338297673
no one said anything about it being good or bad OP said dominate the market.
>>338306939
back when they announced diablo 3 i thought it wouldve been fuckin sick if like they showed a trailer with diablo being all demon like and shit and evil but then suddenly you hear the opening riff to paranoid and the rock and roll racers burst out of his head and then it goes into footage of a new rock and roll racers game
>>338297065
Sorry but then your concept of fun isvery retarded.
>>338290204
>makes card game
>dominates the entire card game genre
The only real competitors were the YGO and Pokemon TCG online games, and they're only played by people that's already into them. It was an easy target.
>>338290204
>is there anything Blizzard can't do?
Not fuck up sequels.
Neo blizzard is dogshit.
SC II jewry and Diablo 3 still hurt.
>>338307597
yep, very popular
>>338291352
Hots is the most fun moba that exists.
The 'Le skill is required' meme for me to like a game makes said game entirely anti-fun.
All the boring unneeded bullshit like farming minions for half an hour was taken out but this is seen as a bad thing because 'I am Le hardcore gaymurrrr' meme exists.
>>338292354
Magic the Gathering is at the top of the collectible card games.
they shouldve make blackthorne 2 instead of this pixar dreak... ugh..
>>338291046
Look up cockatrice, desu senpai.
>>338308603
There's also forge, xmage and tabletop simulator.
>>338290204
it doesn't dominate the card game genre, magic exists and is an objectively better game
>>338290204
Blizzard MADE good games. Made being the keyword. And even then, it wasn't really Blizzard themselves, it was a separate company they acquired a few months before their game's release. It's like saying Nintendo makes good games because Retro made Metroid Prime way back in 2002.
Modern Blizz is an awful game developer like most modern game developers.
>>338309065
absolutely. blizzard died with north.
I think it's more a branding thing at this point.
Look at tesla. Everybody buys the car even if it's not out yet because "muh Elon musk". I understand the hype but still.
>>338306939
Rock and Roll Racing was really fucking good, what the fuck are you smoking?
>>338292020
I don't get the pic, can someone explain?
>>338290204
>Seriously, is there anything marketing can't do?
>>338290204
But they literally didn't make Diablo, they only published it.
Theyve also ruined all of those genres and games. Diablo 2 was amazing, diablo 3 was garbage.
Starcraft was amazing, starcraft 2 was garbage.
Wow was amazing, The expansions were garbage. They made good games just to ruin them all.
>>338291352
hots is actually fun compare to league and dota,
matches are quicker and there is no need to remember every item or build since the progression of your character is based on upgrades to your current abilities
anyone who bought draenor and now buying legion are fuccbois still pay 15/mo zozzle, what's wrong with you, stop giving in
Too bad SC2, D3, Overshit and the last what 4 WoW expansions have all been shite.
They can't make games for shit anymore, mostly because the original people left a long time ago and the staff mostly consists of interns who just graduated from the "make ur own video gamez" academies.
>>338298460
It's pretty good.
