Left or right?
>>338284420
PoE is fun. Never played D3 though.
Neither.
Diablo with friends
PoE on longterm
>>338284420
Left if its RoS on console.
both
RoS>PoE
>>338284420
both, switch when you get burnt out
>>338284420
Path of Exile is better.
>>338284420
Right is fucking amazing
New league/patch was just announced, it's as exciting as a full new version
>>338285327
>tfw you're the only person on earth that loved hellfire
Diablo for casual fun and chit chat with friends without worrying too much about game complexity.
PoE for maximum autism and feel of accomplishment.
>>338285417
I'm nostalgic about it, but it was a broken piece of content that broke the game in more ways than one.
>>338285327
why are these posted every diablo thread?
I'm waiting for the "diablo vs rock" comparison and then huge greentext of features next
marvel heroes 2016>poe>d3
i like them all, but if you want more of a d2 experience then definitely poe
>>338286228
They are my feeling on the Diablo series.
>>338285280
More like Grim Yawn, amirite?
>>338284420
D3 is a soulless heap of garbage that needs an expansion to become passable.
POE is (afaik) a pay2win cashgrab.
The genre is dead OP, let it go.
People who post "LOL Reaper of Souls fixed diablo 3, its actually good now!" Are blizzdrones and should be ignored.
Reaper of Souls is a complete insult to the ARPG genre. They removed TRADING, from a freaking ARPG. Trading. One of the most important things of the Diablo series. Fuck RoS, Vanilla D3 was better.
>>338286403
Is it gay if I just want to fuck baileys boypussy hard and make him my bitch?
>>338286403
post more of that semen demon anon
>>338284420
D3+Expac is pretty good, it's a nice complete package and Blizz puts our free updates regularly.
>>338286789
Allowing trading just leads to extremely low drop rates and 99% of the playerbase being bots. Finding items by yourself is much more satisfying than playing jew simulator.
both are shit
diablo is grinding for the sake of grinding faster, and levels and perks that give you the illusion of progress
PoE I played in the beta and quite liked it but now it's just like diablo 3 what with the maps only difference is you can trade and aside from the faggots in the chat it has a decent, lively community - unfortunately the engine is obnoxious and combat isn't fun unless you think holding down a single button is "fun"
I unironically only really boot up diablo 1 once a year at this point, these games are dead and if not will only succumb to putrefaction
>>338286619
Fuck you. PoE and D3 look like shit compared to Grim Dawn
>>338284420
Left: more fun
Right: more autistic
>>338287590
Show me an interesting high level play of that slow shitty game then maybe I'll reconsider
>>338284420
d3 development is slowing down.
i'd go with PoE
>>338287772
That remains to be seen, pal.
2.3 and 2.4 came consecutively between seasons. Usually we don't get that huge amount of content every patch. 2.1.2, 2.2.1 were a thing you know
>>338284420
PoE for a good game
Diablo 3 for a fun game
>>338287772
I did the season thing of Diablo 3. It was really fast to do and there is nothing to do after than except collecting sets.
I wonder if they will do another Diablo 3 expansion or jump to Diablo 4.
>>338287692
>interesting high level play
Are you sure you're in the right thread?
What ARPG has the best feeling combat? I like the feeling of increasing in power as much as anyone, but I'm interested in combat with a satisfying rhythm, comfy controls and interesting abilities much more than the sifting through gear and tweaking stats.
>>338289373
None. They are all garbage loots pinata simulators.
>>338289373
Darksiders?
>>338289104
PoE endgame builds are fast paced as fuck, and most endgame content requires good positioning and awareness to not get instakilled by most shit.
>>338289626
So you haven't played Grim Dawn, i take it
>>338289373
Out of the 2 in OP D3 definitely feels better to play, but has more boring abilities.
>>338289713
I'm not the person you were replying to, I was merely adding to the discussion.
But nope, I haven't played Grim Dawn, and I was assuming you hadn't played PoE either, at least endgame.
>>338289806
I've got both installed, and in both games i get instagibbed when anything looks at me funny since i'm running minions
>>338284420
I really love PoE because it feels like it's going to be the Terraria of Hack 'n Slash ARPGs. Terraria just hit 5 years last week and the next patch is in two days, but they're already working on the patch after that.
I feel like PoE is just going to have tons and tons of content and possible builds, like they can float endlessly on pretty, shiny things and stash tab sales.
Neither. Diablo 3 is bad because its a bad game, Path of Exile is bad because unless you follow a guide to a T you will end up being completely useless in the harder difficulties.
Also PoE's drop system sucks a fat dick.
where my grim dawn niggas at
>>338290685
Waiting for exp packs
>>338290685
I liked it. It's a better Titan Quest.
Just felt a little too short.
>>338290815
Nordic actually updated TQ
diablo hands down poe is ugly af
>>338284420
Been playing D3 a lot lately, it's pretty good. Finished the main campaign on a Crusader, probably going to level up a DH for RoS.
Is adventure mode even good for leveling? How does it work, I've never tried it.
>>338291035
There's literally no point in playing Main campaign mode any more unless you want to see the story.
Just stick with Adventure mode.
>>338290904
What? You mean the expansion? GD will have one too. And a modding tool.
>>338291035
Only worth touching the campaign the first time. After that, Adventure mode 100% of the time outside skeleton king runs each season for the helm.
>>338291119
They took Immortal Throne/Gold Edition and slapped a bunch of graphical, technical and gameplay updates on it
>>338291035
Adventure mode is how you level when you did the campaign once. It's pretty much "Teleport to a zone, and do X quest and then teleport to another zone"
Some quest make you kill bosses like Magdah, some make you kill 50 of X mob and a unique monster. Might be "Open the cursed chest".
It's 99% of the gameplay now. You do 5 quests in an act. You do the bonus one first to get another chest and they drop uniques and recipes.
>>338284420
I feel like each patch for POE hurts things I like, and adds as many bad things as they do good things. D3 has done nothing but improve since RoS. It got more enjoyable than POE ages ago.
>>338291281
If they did that, it would not have taken 2 years over the deadline to complete.
They started from scratch.
Left if you want to play it casually for a few hours right if you're going to be more invested.
>>338287590
>PoE
>look like shit
>>338290815
What Titan Quest mod is this? Looks fucking awesome.
>>338284420
PoE is more hardcore fun. D3 is more just plain stupid fun.
>>338291484
>>338291101
I do like the story. In retrospect I probably should have just gone with the DH because the Crusader is one boring motherfucker of a character.
>>338291298
So it's like all the fat is cut out? I noticed you can switch between the campaign and adventure mode anytime, how does that work? What exactly is the benefit of making a seasonal character over a normal character, I noticed the stash doesn't carry over?
I don't really get much satisfaction out of poe.
I've played a few characters to the first harder difficulty realm, but it just stop being interesting.
>>338290805
Why?
>tfw content patch soon
That'll be neat too.
>>338290815
I think it's at a solid length. You should actually play beyond Veteran difficulty too, anon.
Hows Torchlight 2?
>>338291813
Like Torchlight 1, but without pet builds
>>338291748
What do you mean "why", i already beat the thing and there's crapton of room left for specifically for more content
>>338291813
Abandonware, which figures because they never really added anything to the FATE games after launch and some bugfix patches either.
They're both shit. PoE actually listens to the playerbase though, and makes the horrendously monotonous parts less painful over time.
D3 is fucking trash and the devs are retarded. They doubled down on their "your build IS the items you MIGHT find" about 10 times in a row now. I can't imagine anyone starting D3 now and playing for more than a month after hitting endgame. It's such a hopeless shitpile of RNG, and the player has no fucking ability to control their build. You have to grind for a retarded amount of time before you even have a build.
Imagine that shit for a second; really let that sink into your brain. You hit endgame. Then you grind, and grind, and grind. Literally hundreds of hours later, you might have a full build between green shit and orange shit, and it's all class specific. So it's a process you get to repeat for every new class you play. There's maybe 4 builds per class so far that have been injected into the game via item sets. The builds encompass every gear slot. So now, on top of having to find your build for each class (over and over again due to RNG stats after the RNG drop rates), you also have to juggle chest space because you have ONE item stash shared among all your characters.
And PoE is free.
>>338292302
Because there is still a lot of things you can do in the game besides mindlessly waiting for more content.
If you beat Normal/Veteran on one (1) character one (1) time then these type of games are not for you.
>>338292637
D3 is completely and utterly dead. The online player count fluctuates between two and three digits. Good riddance, too. I don't believe the biggest trainwreck in the history of gaming deserves an active community.
>>338292663
>>338291668
seasons are a way of starting over fresh with new rules / incentives
>>338291668
Seasons have new sets and items and get cosmetic stuff if you can complete all the objectives.
Just try it and you'll understand pretty fast. It's a faster way to level. Just stuff to do. I leveled from 1-60 on Master in a couple of hours then 60-70 at Torment 1, and the moment you hit 70 you get 2 set pieces that make you able to go on Torment 2-3 easily.
>>338284420
Right, but it doesn't matter since both are shit because Top-Down view is complete garbage for fast paced combat.
>>338292637
>It's such a hopeless shitpile of RNG, and the player has no fucking ability to control their build. You have to grind for a retarded amount of time before you even have a build.
Are you being serious? They added so many ways to get the exact items you want its silly. Not even counting the generous drop rates in general.
The game is straight up designed to let you get everything you want for your build relatively easily. Hell, now each season even basically hands you a full set not long after hitting max level so its even easier.
>>338293153
You could just admit to being terrible at video games instead
>>338284420
Diablo 3 for pure subjective reasons. I think it's a really fun game (if not a bit too easy) especially RoS on the PS4. What I've played PoE was good fun. Loved the huge skill trees and gem system. Lots of room for creativity. Diablo 2 is GOAT in this genre, imo. It was the first game I'd taken PvP seriously with and had multiple multiple characters past lvl 90. PvP'd with every class. Had damn near the best Sin gear on East from 2013-15. Played since LoD release and continue to play Ladder reset pretty actively each year. Plus, it was just patched lately and still has a nice following.
>>338293209
idgaf what they ended up doing to amend their retarded design philosophies. I stopped playing that shit after they added the "cube of extra legendary effect".
The game is fucked. It was fucked the minute the devs refused to turn the fucking insane item bloat into skill trees. The entire formula for creating a character is backwards. Instead of creating a character, and then making a build, and then finding gear to augment and improve that build; you do the reverse.
You create a character, you have no build, you have to find items, out of those items you hope to find the correct assortment, as constructed by the devs, to create ANY build. After that, you then hunt down the same build over, and over, and over again until you have the right stats on those items, which is also your skill build.
And then try to stash that shit after a few seasons. This is what happens when you remove skill trees and place builds on the fucking items themselves.
D3 is a fucking mess developed by the Blizzard substitute C team.
>>338285327
Why is Reaper of Souls better than D3 vanilla?
>>338293904
I'm sorry I explained your points were worthless. I'm also sorry I got extremely board two sentences into your rant and stopped reading it. Not that sorry though.
>>338293996
Believe it or not, D3 actually used to be worse than it is now.
>>338293996
It added a fuckton of stuff that made the game way more enjoyable to play.
>>338284420
Right, even if it has been getting easier and more casual for a while now and endgame is trivialized by powercreep.
>>338294039
>board
Only a cherry on the top of this embarrassing post.
>>338294087
Yeah, I played it when it came out D3 and I didn't care much for it. And whenever someone brings up the Expansion is about how much better it is.
I mean, apart from actually having a knight class, I don't understand why.
>>338294146
A little vague, but ok.
>>338294162
So you can easily push the highest end maps without any issue now?
>>338294039
>your points are worthless, though I can't refute them
>I have the attention span of a goldfish, so I couldn't digest the full extent of your points
>"sorry not sorry"
Does cancer posting get more blatant than this? Although, what could I really expect from someone who still defends D3? I can't even grasp the words required to illustrate how monumentally retarded you'd have to be to enjoy D3.
>>338294325
>arguing with it
poe is the better game but that doesn't stop it from being incredibly boring.
>>338284420
Left. Right sucks.
>>338293996
I don't actually know what parts of the expansion are now available in the base game but since the game was released they changed the drop rates from being retardedly low because you were supposed to use the RMAH. They fixed the difficulty settings and added an end game leveling system so even if you're "max level" you can still "level up". They added the adventure mode so instead of running the same story missions over and over you can run randomly generated dungeons with increasing difficulty, etc..
Still not a great game because it has deeper flaws with the skill system and itemization I think, but definitely something that you could waste a bit of time on, and it's unrivaled by other ARPGs in terms of how polished it is.
>>338294325
I think you'd played it once, hit max level and didn't into Grift progression. You gave up trying to find your items and became bitter about. It is a good game. Nothing short of an 8/10. Mindless treasure hunting is fun for some, myself included.
>>338293996
It's faster, cleaner and the loot make sense. You used to drop stuff for other classes way too much, which lead to useless drops over useless drops.
It's far from a good diablo sequel, but as a unique game, it's great.
>>338293996
They literally fixed the game. Its actually fun to play now.
>>338294562
Oh I see. I gues I'll give it another shot soon enough.
I hope they updated thePS3version as well
>>338294206
Instead of the "older" endgame where you just ran bosses or whatever on the highest difficulty over and over and over until you got gear worth selling on the AH, they added completely different stuff to do.
First off difficulties are now adjustable and there are like 16 of them now. You can play on any difficulty you want, at least after you have beaten the game once.
Once you hit max level, adventure mode unlocks. It unlocks every portal and lets you travel around without regards for the story. Every act has 5 "bounties" every single time you make a new game,. Bounties are typically completing an NPC or cursed chest/shrine event, killing an elite enemy, or a boss, or something like that, and completing those bounties gives a reward chest, some gold and some experience. Bounty chests reward unique legendary items that are typically unique to that act you did them in, give crafting patterns, mats, and special materials for Kanai's cube.
Kanai's cube is a special crafting item like the Horadric cube that lets you put certain items, usually a piece of equipment and specific materials and something happens. Its BIGGEST effect is letting you extract a legendary power from a legendary. Like say, a legendary gives "everytime you use lashing tail kick, shoot a fireball that pierces enemies in a line for loadadamage". You can extract that, and actually equip it as a special passive. 1 weapon, 1 armor, and 1 jewelry can be equipped like that.
>>338294768
I thought the PS3 version was already on the expansion from the start.
>>338294325
I did refute them. He explained that getting gear was some herculean feat, when it hasn't been for a long fucking time.
And why should I read something that is obviously a long and tedious rant about "i dont like that and im fucking mad here is a 5 paragraph long post that doesn't actually say anything except I don't like thing"?
But sure, respond to this with memes and greentexts, its all you are good at doing.
>>338289373
Marvel Heroes 2016
>>338294947
Nope. I got the vanilla version when it came out.
Because couch co-op.Albeit, it wasn't actually that fun to play with even with a buddy
>>338294796
Kanai's cube also lets you adjust and upgrade gear. You can reroll legendaries in hopes of getting better stats, so if you find 1 copy of a legendary, even if its bad, its worth keeping because you can make it good by rerolling it. It lets you upgrade a rare item to a legendary version of the same type. So say you wanted a specific legendary Tw0-handed mace. Just take a rare two-handed mace, through it in the cube with the right materials, and it will turn into 1 of the 5ish legendary or set maces the game has. It makes getting specific legendaries fairly easy. There are also a couple other recipes that do various nice things.
As for the actual endgame, its not just bounties. They added something called Rifts to the game. They come in two varieties. Normal Rifts and Greater Rifts. Normal rifts can be spammed at a riftstone in each town. Rifts are randomized dungeons with random enemies taken from the various areas of the game. You "win" them by filling a progress bar that fills from killing enemies and especially elites. Once its filled, a rift guardian spawns. Its a boss enemy that, when killed, "finishes" the rift. It also typically drops a lot of nice stuff, including greater rift keystones.
>>338284420
>>338294597
Over 3000 hours across 4 classes. You don't have a fucking clue what you're talking about.
Do yourself a favor and remember everything I said about the completely backwards character progression next time you hop in to play D3. You'll see the light, and move onto a real ARPG.
>>338294990
>why should I read something when I can just assume I know what it says
You should read it so you don't end up sounding like some fucking retard who didn't bother to read the shit they claim they've soundly refuted. You fucking retard.
The only thing you've present is a claim that finding all the gear takes no time at all. If you actually read my points, you'd see that your rebuttal is painfully irrelevant to why D3 is fucking dogshit from the ground up.
>>338291424
poe literally looks like it was made in 1999
game looks like fucking ass.
>>338284420
Right, but I've played it out years ago.
Most recently I played some diablo 2 just to murder duriel for papa.
I think I'll return to PoE someday, but I'm in no rush.
PoE has the most complex leveling system, but it's generic.
Diablo 3 has no depth.
Marvel Heroes isfun.
>>338295431
Greater rifts are special rifts unlocked with greater rift keystones. They have scaling levels that are independent of difficulty. Each level gets progressively harder, ie enemies get buffed. They are also timed. You have 15 minutes to complete it or you "Fail" the run. Successfully killing the rift boss in these rifts rewards a legendary gem and gives you the option of upgrading a legendary gem, AND unlocks higher levels of grifts that you can run.
Legendary gems are special gems that only go in jewelry and have powerful effects. They also can be leveled. Each gem gets a special secondary effect when they are raised to 25, but have a scaling effect that increases every single level. Things like a gem that causes enemies to drop a bunch of gold X% of the time with a level 25 unlock that boosts movement speed when picking up gold, or another that does a fuckton of holy damage to a random enemy with a 15% chance on hit, and the level 25 ability causing it to happen every couple seconds automatically.
GD is okay
got really boring for me
PoE and D3 doesnt appeal to me at all
diablo 2 is great but it kinda gets slow after killing diablo or getting to the expansion area
is there anything worth looking up this year?
i dont want to pull all my expectations on that korean diablo 3 clone
>>338295817
>>338295431
>>338294796
The game also added a ton of new sets for each class, revamped stats and added new modifiers, added special effects to most legendary items, added a couple new Adventure Mode only areas, added Seasons to the game, and a few other things.
So basically, RoS added a ton of new shit.
>>338295550
>3000 hours
Battletag?
>>338296031
tohki or toki; I can't even remember the numbers they tacked onto it.
>>338296142
I found at least 30 different Toki's and 1 Tohki. I give up.
>>338295550
Alright. This is my last response to you. I went back and the read the post, and SHOCKER, it was exactly what I said. "I hate D3 because OPINIONS". The OPINION being "item based builds is the worst thing that ever happened to anything ever". I know, shocker, thats actually an opinion. I know its a real blow to your ego to come to terms with the simple fact that not every gut feeling of yours is a universal truth, but it actually does happen
Also, to MORE SPECIFICALLY REFUTE YOUR POINTS, specific gear is not hard to get, so the point about it being some RNG fuckfest is REFUTED. Each class has MANY VIABLE BUILDS, so your point about the SAME BUILD OVER AND OVER is REFUTED. Each build has variation in the build so THE SAME POINT IS REFUTED. Stats on items can be changed at the enchanter AND rerolled with Kanai's cube so the point about HUNTING DOWN THE SAME ITEM OVER AND OVER FOR THE RIGHT STATS is REFUTED.
Now I'm sorry if I missed another completely bullshit point, but I don't care anymore. I can only refute so much bullshit before I'm bored. Feel free to give me another comically hostile (you). I made my point.
>>338284420
Right, other than the stale late game it's much better.
>>338296638
fucking manald
>>338296638
>Waheed
You and me bro
>>338296620
You didn't read shit, and if you did read it, it was over you head.
Just enjoy your dogshit game, and enjoy those delusions that it's not shit. I'll take it as one less retard playing games that aren't dogshit, and those communities will be all the better for it.
D3 is a model of terrible ideas and incompetent dev work.
>>338295506
First was better.
Third doesn't exist.
>>338296747
i got a nagelring recently
i was happy with it
>>338294238
Yeah you can clear t14/15 maps with selffound gear.
POE got boring for me desu, might try D3
>>338292857
>D3 is completely and utterly dead.
Is this why it had about 12k viewers right after the most recent patch dropped?
>>338294162
You can still get one-shotted if you don't know all the game aspects. And only FoTM builds allow for decent clearspeed at low investment.
>>338298172
Even when you know all the game aspect, you can still get oneshotted. That's why I didn't like to play HC in Poe, it was very different in Diablo 2 where you know what can happen and play around it. In Poe there is inevitable death you can't do shit about even with the best gear/knowledge.
grim dawn
>>338298346
>grim yawn
>>338298472
How is that short attention span treating you Anon?
>>338298346
>>338298472
Biggest issue I have with the game is that you typically only invest in a couple skills, like 1 or 2 cc skills, 1 offensive skill and maybe 1 or 2 defensive skills and thats it. Everything is just procs from weapons and devotions and relics and whatever.
Most builds end up flashy but repetitive.
rip
>>338298929
Entirely depends on the build.
The ones you described are the easiest to make but not all of them are like this. Demo/Arcanist can use a lot of active skills at the same time.
>>338300558
>tfw have a Spellbreaker with ~12-14 active abilities atm
>>338284420
Left.
