Is this game worth the buy? I don't care so much about the story since I had it spoiled for me ages ago,but is the gameplay good?
>>338180743
It's a turn based RPG.
There's no "gameplay" to speak of.
>>338180743
What kind of idiot plays turn based JRPG just for gameplay?
Oh, thats right. The same type of idiot that asks others for their opinions of a game instead of developing some of their own.
>>338180887
neither is muscle memory git gud trash
>>338180743
Play the demo and see for yourself, mate. It doesn't have anything to do with the main game's story. If you've already played FF5 and liked its battle/job system, then just get it since BD plays like an updated FF5.
>>338180743
if you liked FF III you'll love this game
it's the same thing with a little more nuance
>>338180887
>>338180903
Neo /v/
It depends, do you like JRPGs? Are boss battles your favorite part of them? If so, you'll enjoy it. You can set battles to 2x speed, and the game has a system where you can do multiple actions in a single turn. This means battles can be hyper speed if you know what you're doing. You can also turn off random encounters and leveling up if you want more of a challenge. People have beaten the game at level one.
>>338180743
Not at all. The game has a sharp drop in quality in the second half that'll make you regret your purchase. It's a shame too since it started out nice.
>>338180903
Why are you even here?
>>338181403
He says he doesn't give a shit about the story, which is the only part of this game that drops in quality.
>>338180743
If you enjoy turn-based, class-based JRPGs, then you can't go wrong. If you don't actively enjoy those types of games, though, or if doing the same thing for 40 hours might bother you, then I wouldn't recommend it.
>>338181403
You can literally rush throught that part of the game in less than a hour if you don't like it.
And the game is still about 60 hours even without it.
>>338181365
>>338181645
Also the OST is amazing.
>>338180743
It's good if you can handle Tiz constantly emitting his beta rays
>>338181645
>which is the only part of this game that drops in quality
He'd still have to go through the same bosses and dungeons for about half of the game.
>>338180743
the gameplay itself is fun but the game completely falls apart after chapter 4 and most reviewers seem to have ignored that when they praise it as the greatest rpg of the century
For a turn-based RPG, the gameplay is pretty solid, though I wish it had a lookahead meter like FFX remaster.
I didn't care for the artstyle, characters, or story though.
>>338182563
But the artstyle is the best part.
>>338180743
Yes, and yes.
>>338182249
>the greatest rpg of the century
It is. Those past 16 years have been pretty damn bad for RPGs.
>>338180743
Gameplay would have been one of the best turn based systems ever if it hadn't been for the screwy jobs that allow you to become practically invincible with the right combinations.
>>338182026
>for about half of the game
Not even close.
>>338182802
it bugs me that they shoehorned new cities and locations in with no explanations.
We're supposed to beleive al khamphis, yunohana, etc have always been there when they clearly weren't in the first game.
>>338183040
It's not hard to believe.
Look at the world map and then the overworld where you have your character running along it. Those towns are not nearly as big as they appear, so it's perfectly reasonable to assume they didn't go to certain villages in the mountains and shit.
>>338183040
That happens in almost every RPG sequel.
I'm more confused about the locations of everything, it's like Eternia and Florem swapped location.
>>338182563
It can't have the meter because like in many other JRPGs the speed of the characters can change of about a 10% every turn.
I always hated this, it doesn't allow you to plan ahead and is only bullshit RGN.
>>338182249
That rerun bit is greatly exaggerated and is only really used for people that want to have more of a challenge with the asterisk holders. I actually had a blast fighting them in teams.
>>338183040
You aren't supposed to believe the few cities that you visit in a JRPGs are the only ones in the whole world. It would mean that the entire world population is only around 1000 people.
No. The story is bare bones, and the gameplay has you fighting the same trash mobs over And over again. The bosses aren't bad, but the game doesn't do enough with the combat system. Once you're familiar with the mobs in an area, you can just use the fast forward button. Your party will use the same attacks you've programmed and you'll end every single fight by braving 4 times and hitting every enemy with exactly what you need to win. There's virtually no real challenge to any area.
>>338183343
Yeah, the last 4 worlds are mostly about fighting the bosses in a more challenging setting. You can easily rush through and do all the crystals in an hour or two if you want. Chapter 7 battles were great, Chapter 8 battles against the units were rad as fuck, and Eternian Central Command was the hardest slew of bosses I've ever faced in a game.
>>338183265
>I'm more confused about the locations of everything, it's like Eternia and Florem swapped location
Read through the bestiary and other shit in Yew's journal, there's a lot of lore and worldbuilding points.
Remember Diamante, the Ba'al you fought in the Kaiser's fortress? When he first came to Luxendarc he was much, much more powerful. He seemingly killed Sage Yulyana in battle and split the continent in half before being sealed away.
>>338182802
>Artstyle
>Not the tunes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bO6eAJZZ_SU
I'm so mad the Bravely Second soundtrack pales in fucking comparison. I wish there was a way to give Tiz and Edea their old special themes back, and fighting Empire asterisks isn't nearly as cool as fighting Eternian asterisks.
>>338183265
They didn't really swap, it's just the focus of the map is different. It's like comparing a US world map to a Japanese world map. I think they did it hoping people wouldn't noticethat Caldisia is completely fucking missing.
>>338180743
It and its sequel are the best JRPG's in video game history. Do the math.
>>338184059
I wouldn't say in JRPG history, but they are much better than /v/ makes them out to be; they're just shy from being 11/10. If the team was ever given a proper budget, I have no doubt they'd make a damn near perfect game.
It's great anon
>>338184260
Don't mind me anon, I slightly exaggerate it to trigger the haters.
They are very good jrpg's though, and are amongst my top 5
>>338184260
Not him, but I would say Default is among, if not the best JRPG to come out in the last decade, possibly the last 15 years. They fucking nailed it.
Second isn't bad, but isn't great either and you can see the developmental problems it had. Clearly scrapping Nikolai and Janne as full-fledged playable characters because people didn't like them, changing a lot of plot points. It doesn't help that the game is easier and the music is worse. The sidequests are also atrocious.
Paid 80€ for the Bravely Second Deluxe edition the other day. Am I going to regret it /v/?
>>338183892
>I'm so mad the Bravely Second soundtrack pales in fucking comparison.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XA9umJHAA-c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RuNHMPvaWQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laKsBUYS3bc&index=53&list=PLx7mP-9E-Nn2GszUVfd99YbfRsc3Zuycz
?
Bravely Second had a mediocre OST compared to the first for the first half of the game, but when it picked up, it really picked up.
>>338180743
You're not going to get a better JRPG for the 3DS desu.
>>338184609
Gonna be honest anon, it took a while for me to pick up, mostly because I'm an autist who for some reason tries to find reasons to dislike new games.Once it gets good though, it never lets up.
>>338184617I'm only on Chapter 3 and just started the Alternis/Khamer sidequest.
I like howthey made it blatantly obviousthe Alternis on Grandship is World 5's Alternis and the one we've been seeing is Ringabel.
>>338184260
The thing is, BD is a near perfect game with one gigantic flaw that brings its reputation way down.
>>338184770
>spoilerI had no idea Ringabel was actually going to be in BSI had fucking butterflies when he showed up
>>338184932
Me either, but it was obvious as soon as I met Alternis on Grandship.
>>338184581
>>338184059
>>338184260
>tfw I'm 26
>tfw I've been playing jrpg's since the snes era
>tfw I completely agree that the Bravely Games are easily among the best JRPG's I've ever played.
>>338185052
Dungeon design is another one of the things that really bring it down. A lot of them just aren't fun.
So....
Do you think they'll be able to nail it 3 times in a row?
I'm scared guys, what if Bravely Third turns out shit? I don't think they can keep it up.
Absolutely. Addicting as hell as you experiment with different job combinations and abilities.
>>338185164
Bravely Sword is going to be the best one yet since they'll probably get an actual budget. Bravely Second had real potential to be better than BD, but scrapping Janne and Nikolai was a mistake.
>>338184059
Nope.
They are extremely close to both being perfect games, but they are flawed in certain ways that makes their score drop down a lot.
There is no excuse for the second half of BD. Even if you can just finish the last four chapters in one hour, going for the true ending is basically going against everything the game is telling you to do since chapter 1. Not breaking the crystals should lead to a bad ending for not having the courage to disobey.
Second fucks over hard on the sidequests that felt perfect to me in Default, I almost can't consider any of the sidequests in Default as sidequests, they felt like normal parts of the story. The moral choices are cool, sure, but the actual sidequests are forced as fuck, boring as well, bosses all feel the same with no originality and some pair of asterisk holders just feel forced together for no reason. But it polished a lot of things from Default anyway, so in my opinion Second is the best one between the two.
Also, both have atrocious dungeons. Second has slightly better ones, but none of the dungeons in Default can be saved. Even with encounters turned off walking through them is the most boring shit ever.
>>338183892
>>338184581
Music is debatable, many people can have different tastes. I entered Second with extreme caution and prepared for the worst because of all the /v/ threads, and I ended up enjoying it much more than Default. Especially the music. I can really think of two tracks on Second I dislike and that I wish were replaced by their Default counterpart, everything else sounded amazing and perfectly fitting.
>>338184689
At least until DQ VII and VIII are out.
>>338185164
I hope they try something different. BS feels too much like BD.
>>338185164
>third stars Ringabel and a new cast doing time cop stuff.
PLEASE
>>338185391
>Cast is four Ringabels from different worlds
>>338185164
Cosidering how BS bombed there might not even be a Third.
>>338185391
I wouldn't be too excited. If you look at the painting inYoko's dungeonhis crew just seem to be Edea, Tiz, and Agnes from different dimensions.
>>338185512
>BS bombed
Source?
I call fucking bullshit.
People are stupid if that's true.
>I'll say it once more, for good measure
>Bishop class literally has an ability called Good Measure
>It makes the same spell you cast in succession say the name twice
Anybody else have their mind blown by this?
I wish Janne and Nikolai were permanent members of the team. Don't get me wrong, I very much like Edea and hell, even Tiz too, but I really wish they had the courage to give us the new characters instead of something familiar.
>>338185485
But Ringabel is an anomaly. Not every world has one.
>>338185594
He's chatting shit mate. Not sure if he's trolling or just genuinely doesn't realize that it did pretty good for how niche it is.
Bravely Second was the best selling video game in Japan during its debut week, with 100,047 copies sold and 53.6% of the initial shipment sold out.[29] This was a lower debut than that of the original Bravely Default; during its launch week, 141,529 copies were sold, which corresponded to 85.68% of its first shipment.[30] Roughly 154,000 copies had been sold by the end of June 2015.[31]
In North America, the game was the ninth best-selling game of its debut month of April 2016, a feat deemed particularly impressive by Venturebeat, which noted was rare for a physical release of a niche genre like a JRPG.[32]
>>338185601
That's cool didn't notice.
Would Fencer and Bishop even exist of they had kept Janne and Nikolai?
>>338185594
It's an almost entirely new series, so its sales are much lower than, say FF or DQ, but it's doing fine.
It sold hardly any less than Bravely Default (which had two releases, mind you)
Why is Bravely Second so anime.
I never felt like I was watching anime more than while playing this game.
>>338186025
It's all the food talk.
Can I emulate it yet?
Did anyone notice you can work at a literal sweatshop in B2nd?
>>338186025
DUDE FOOD LMAO
It's the same problem Xenoblade X has.
Also, obligitory hot springs.
>>338185330
>1. Not breaking the crystals should lead to a bad ending for not having the courage to disobey.
Sorry but I never agree with this critique, because it's just plain wrong.
The simple reason as to why doing that gives you the bad ending is because it literally makes sense in terms of the story.
If you break the crystal, then Airy has to reveal herself properly, so when you kill Airy (who is basically a pawn) all you're doing is solving things in a short term way. There's LITERALLY no reason or way for Ouroboros to show himself, so why would you get the good end for just killing Airy before she's completely her mission?
Killing Airy is basically the equivalent of cutting the top of a weed off. You need to go for the root, which is Ouroboros, and the only way you get to Ouroboros is for him to be granted access to the world.
This is a japanese pope.
>>338186283
Sorry, but I'm going to have to censor that blatant BDSM.
>>338186278
Ouroboros can destroy a world with a finger, it seems pretty obvious that letting Ouroboros out at all would make you all die in an instant.
>>338185330
>I can really think of two tracks on Second I dislike and that I wish were replaced by their Default counterpart, everything else sounded amazing and perfectly fitting.
Same. I think the only ones I can say I dislike are
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-_i3nu8nFI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOgmONks0LY
Also I would have preferred this without the vocals
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4mRvrdjPuQ
>>338186448
But...that's why it's revealed in B2nd that they literally can't die because YOU are a god, keeping everyone alive and replaying when you lose.
>>338186025
Default was the same.
People love sucking Ringabel's dick here for some reason but he's nothing but the usual wannabe ladykiller anime archetype. And Edea is the obligatory cockblocker. And of course Tiz is your average nice guy MC. There's even the old sage that is actually a pervert. 100% anime.
>>338186450
Those two tracks are basically the only two tracks I disliked too. Wish they just gave us the regular BD dungeon music instead.
>>338186278
Now that you mention it, it does make sense.
>>338186450
The ones I dislike are the Special move music and the music that plays when you get a new asterisk and it shows a tutorial of that class.
I see a lot of complains about those two tracks you posted but I like them more than the Default counterparts. Or rather, only one of the dungeon themes from Default was better than them, the other one got boring pretty fast for me.
>>338186597
I'm a little confused about that. At the end of BD, when Tiz thanks someone and then dies, is he talking to you or Anne?
The live versions of the songs are fun to listen to. This one is my favorite aside from Ringabel's theme:
https://youtu.be/6LvX3dapvYc?t=420
>>338186832
(You)
>>338186832
>is he talking to you
This. He'sgiving your soul back to youor something to that effect.
>>338181365
Not OP, but what if I want a decent story that doesn't drag out?
>>338186942
>>338186974
I don't think so. The fairy in the very beginning of BD is Anne, and later in B2nd she says she helped everyone beat Airy. She tells Tiz to help her till the very end.
>>338187001
The story is actually pretty good if you can ignore one big plothole.
>>338187102
He's talking to the celestial soul he borrowed, which turns out to be the one of the player.
>>338187250
Then where was Anne during all of this?
>>338187102
>>338187250
Also Mephilia says she sensed another person in Tiz. She was talking about (You).
>>338187185
I haven't played Second yet, is the plothole in Default? What is it if it's not a Second spoiler?
>>338187512
Just watching I guess, but it's confirmed you have the soul of a celestial, which Anne is not.
Said this before but...
Does anybody else find it strange that the big bads in Bravely Default are cannon stronger than the big bads of Bravely Second? Usually in these situations you get some power creep, and the next big bad is almost always stronger.
Airy > Anne in terms of power.
Ouroboros > Providence.
We know for a fact that Ouroboros > Providence because Anne literally says it during her second battle with you.
>"If you hadn't have killed that vile creature Ouroboros, he would have devoured the Celestial Realm"
Providence is the "false" god of the Celestial Realm, so Ouroboros being free is clearly not what Providence or Anne wanted at all, which is precisely why Anne needed YOU to stop Airy. If she could have stopped Airy herself, then she would have literally had to go do it, because what Airy was doing was going to be the end of Providence, and by default Anne by just setting up Ouroboros to get to the Celestial realm.
Anne was just straight up fucked without your help in stopping Airy. Plain and simple.
I really like that they didn't just pull of a cliche piece of shit like
>And the next big bad is even stronger than the last!
>>338187185
Yeah, I'm actually fine with ignoring one or two plotholes. I just like to feel like I'm going through an epic, handcrafted journey where I wanna be a part of that world. I'll check the game out, thanks.
>>338180743
I dropped it like 10 hours in. I would literally give away my copy if someone I knew wanted it. It's so fucking boring. I love JRPG's, but anything Final Fantasy related bores me to tears.
>>338184581
>Not him, but I would say Default is among, if not the best JRPG to come out in the last decade, possibly the last 15 years. They fucking nailed it.
>>338187665
I want it
>>338187590
>I haven't played Second yet, is the plothole in Default? What is it if it's not a Second spoiler?
It's in Bravely Default. Pretty much throughout the entire fight with Eternia, any single captain of their forces, or even Braev himself, could have told them why they were fighting against the crystalists.
Get one of the Etrian Odyssey games instead
>>338187619
I was sad that Anne's perfect form wasn't anywhere near as difficult as Perfect Airy.
That's one thing that Bravely Second dropped the ball on. End game difficulty. I wanted to try out the Yokai job.
Should I buy a Japanese 3ds and copy of BD so I can jerk off to Edea's butt in 3d?
>>338187918
Fap to the lewdest fairy instead.
>>338187789
If anyone told them Airy would have just morphed and killed everyone on the spot.
>>338187918
Just look up porn and save money.
>>338187619
>>338187512
>>338186832
OOOOOOH FUCK now I get it.
Anne is talking to the actual player in the beginning of BD. She tricks you into fighting for her and going along in the game. Shit.
>>338187918
>fapping to chibi
How desperate are you?
>>338187918
Isn't there an uncensored version you can pirate?
>>338188119
Oh, now I get it. Anne you fucking cunt.
>>338188042
This. Why the fuck do people find it so hard to understand that Airy had everything on lockdown? It's no doubt happened in a previous time that people mentioned Airy and she transformed and slaughtered them all.
The only reason you won in the end is because tiz LITERALLY has (You) inside of him.
>>338188262
chibi a best
>>338187897
Debatable. Every boss in Default can be cheesed extremely easily, in more than one way, so many ways that cheesing can't even be used to describe that.
My favourite way is giving one BP to the bosses. They always do the same thing over and over as long as you do, which you can deal with super easily. Constantly giving one BP to the chapter 8 bosses makes them so easy you can win without receiving any damage at all.
>>338188346
>>338188042
But Tiz had (you) inside him since the beginning. Airy couldn't have achieved perfect form unless she awakened Orobouros, so it would have been a much better plan to attack her there.
And even then, if they've beaten every one of your soldiers and are about to awaken the crystals, why not just put all bets down and tell them?
>>338181403
I still liked that part because I liked the boss interactions and was curious what they would be like.
Bravely Second on the otherhand is just bad. Everything that was good about the 1st game just got stripped away for some reason. It's actually dumbfounding how bad the sequel is.
>>338188119
>>338188318"I see fire in those eyes."
>>338188592
Nobody knew Tiz had a god inside of him though.
>>338188491
>Debatable.
Nig. The job combos in BS are in a whole other league in terms of how much you can break them.
Once I learned the "Rain" ability, I was killing bosses in one turn.
There was also nothing in BS that compared to Perfect Airy, the Fire Squad and basically every other chapter 8 asterisk death squad actually in terms of difficulty
>that moment when you realize that Airy morphs from worm to chrysalis, and from chrysalis to butterfly
>>338188751
Tiz knew he had (you) inside him. And still, it's fucking stupid to not tell them anything until it's much too late. I get holding them off, but they should have told them by the last crystal.
>>338188884
Isn't she a moth?
Spooky.
>>338188730
Anon, when she said that, that is when I legit became fully invested in Bravely Second.
Before that moment, I was still enjoying myself, but not to the extent that I couldn't put the game down at all.
After that though, oh boy, I was hooked completely.
>>338188872
By the time I was in Chapter 8 I already had the most broken combinations with me, so I just went No Damage against every boss. Everybody complains about Perfect Airy but I literally just had the game on Auto. I was level 76, not sure if overlevelled, but I don't think levels matter as much as Jobs, and I had almost all of them mastered for every character.
>>338188592
Airy didn't need her perfect form. Her monstrous first form is enough to take out opposition.
Airy had a very distinct advantage over Eternia, in that Braev, Alternis and Yulana knew the truth but could say nothing because people they legitimately loved would die. The real plothole is why those same people said nothing the few times Airy wasn't around. (ie: when everyone is captured, when Tiz and Afnes meet Yulana in the cave)
>>338189162
pheonix flight and that dark knight move that does damage based on HP followed by stillness in haste world made your party literally unbeatable
>>338189238
>but could say nothing because people they legitimately loved would die
Several asterisk holders said they were prepared to kill the crew for the sake of their side.
>>338189162
>Everybody complains about Perfect Airy but I literally just had the game on Auto
Same. The system can be broken much too easily in this game.
>tfw the true last boss of bravely default had me legit hyped, seeing myself in the background
>>338189417
Most asterisk holders were complete psychopaths, dunno why Braev thought it was a good idea making them commanders in the irst place.
>>338189146
Rev and Geist were honestly one of the best parts of B2nd.
>>338189162
Perfect Airy was bullshit because she could randomly outspeed you and get off another Acedia + Zeta Flare on you.
Of course, BD and BS are made in such a way that if you really do want to break them, then nothing can really touch you, providing you go with the optimal party setup. Personally, I never used Stillness or Ninjas. They were the only two things I didn't allow myself to use since they made everything a joke.
>>338189626
>tfw forced to see your ugly face on the screen
>>338189417
Most of said holders weren't following Braev's direct orders, often going further than needed.
>>338189238
Same shit.
"What, you guys don't want to awaken the crystals anymore for whatever reason? Guess I won't need you all anymore then!"
They were just giving hints so that they could break the crystals when they felt ready and had the courage.
But guess what, actually having the courage leads to false ending, so they tell you for 8 chapters to fucking do it but actually doing it is fucking yourself over.
>>338189406
I just went with three ninjas honestly. Didn't bother with Dark Knight, felt crappy.
>>338180743
gud game play it
>>338189798
I believe Kamiizumi was one of the people ready to kill Edea, but I could be wrong.
>>338189739
Yeah, I just have fun with the classes, I never actively tried to break the fights.
>>338187550
Also didn't the final boss in BD make note of Tiz having another being in him.
>>338189739
That's nothing compared to Qada that in the last group fight can cast fire weakness on you, followed by 3 fire attacks for 9999 to each party member.
Not even more than 9999 hp and autophoenix can save you there if you're unlucky with the speed.
>>338190490
Fucking Qada was a bitch to fight.
>>338189739
She's the second/third hardest fight in the game, if she decides to be a cunt, even against a maxed out team of level 99 characters.
>Slaughter gets a big roll
>Kills off one member and damages everybody else
>She goes first next turn for some reason and does that Zeta flare combo
Try the demo.
I think it was worth every fucking penny, the job system and battle system are fucking GOAT
What's the hardest Nemesis fight?
>>338190578
Yeah first time fighting him I just didn't think he'd be so effective with the concoctions but after suffering severe defeat to the guy made me want his asterik more.
>>338190902
Leviathan or Asmodeus for me.
I.Fucking.Loved.The.Providence.Battle.
Second form was easy as fuck, but holy shit is he badass looking. That fourth wall breaking he pulled too was amazing.
I was gonna post a pic of him but after reading through the thread, it seems a lot of people aren't done with BS yet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XA9umJHAA-c
How about that theme though? I even like it more than The Serpent That Devours the Horizon, which is saying something.
>>338191385
Providence is female.
>>338191468
Just because he has tits doesn't make him a girl, anon.
I'd be willing to bet his creation was influenced by Baphomet.
>>338191773
She's literally female in the japanese version, but it was changed here for no reason.
>>338191958
Oh wow really? Well shit, I stand corrected.
Strange that they changed it though, I can't see any reason as to why they'd do something like that.
The twists is Bravely Second were fucking amazing. The whole thing about The Adventurer was great. Did you know thatThe Adventurer might have been the one who saved all the previous asterisk holders after their battles with Tiz and the crew?
>>338188262
>being a faggot
>>338192470
Speaking of which, why did (real spoilers)Deneb come out green when she gave the hourglass to Tiz
>>338192470
>>338192668
Speaking of both, are Deneb, Altair, and Vega supposed to be 'players' too? Are (you) a celestial being like them?
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>Edea will never smother your face with her plump, healthy ass
Lad, why were we even put on this planet?
Did anyone ever play the 4 Heroes of Light? There seem to be at least a few connections, and apparently it's even set in a similar world. Is the game itself any good?
>>338195053
I've got a feeling one of the BD games is going to tie it in there as a twist somehow. Haven't personally played the game, but I've read about it.
>>338195034
>Edea will never rape you
>>338195231
You can't rape the willing.
>>338195053
I just started it.
The music and visuals are pretty bad, but the combat is interesting. Basically there are no MP and every action requires an amount of points to be performed that you collect by defending, like the PB in Bravely.
You can see it's its prototype.
>>338195171
Well they way I see it with the whole BD having multiple universe similar to comic books with key differences, would the 4 warriors of light be like the Prime universe of the BD worlds?
>>338195279
You can be if you're tired
>>338195053
Supposedly the seven sins that you fight for Yoko's quests are in it. If you look at Beelzebub's entry in the bestiary Altair talks about him as if he was something from long ago.
>>338195530
Also the way you level up classes is weird, you have to put gems you get by defeating particolar enemies in some kind of sphere grid.
>>338195171
>new evil fairy in B3rd namedLilibelle
That would be the ultimate twist.
Where does the Edea's ass meme come from?
Agnes is clearly much more plump and thick.
>>338196236
It's not a meme.
>you will never knead and massage a plump, soft ass
>>338180743
It has a very fun and expansive job system. Lots of options to mix up, between main/sub job skills and all the different abilities available.
You'll also have tons of excuses to use those combinations against various bosses.
Oh, and the battle system is fairly good. Defending will "build up" turns, meaning defending once can allow you to attack twice, or use a skill which has a two-round buildup. You can also "go into debt" with the system, putting yourself into action-debt in exchange for the character standing around doing nothing until they're out of the action debt. The game has a fairly good auto-battle system, where you can put in a fairly complex set of commands for the auto-battle and can speed battles up to 4x speed.
Beyond that, there isn't much to recommend the game. Characters are flatter than Paper Mario and boring when talking to each other. The plot is about the same thing you saw from Final Fantasy 1. The "second half" of the game basically loops upon itself repeatedly, and assuming you want to see more than the False End, you're forced to play through it all.
Is the celestial realm simply real life? Do the summoned monsters come from the celestial realm?
>MFW i saw the collection edtion in my local "black market", but then i remembered that the english artbook is censored
I am so mad.
>>338198005
Not buying it ans selling it to people who really just wanted the collectors edition.
Peace, harmony, order...?
I deny your world and everything in it
>>338187665
>dropped it on 10 hours
Well, yeah, I guess it's a "test drive" time for a 100+ hour game.
But you sure took your sweet time choosing to drop the game, bro.
>>338180743
Worth it. Even on a blind run, you see a lot of shit coming (not all, but anyways). Gameplay is good enough to actually prevent the need for grinding (unless you feel the urge to max every job on all characters).
Difficulty is something that exists even when maxed out, and with boosted stats.
>>338182980
How detect a FF baby
>BF is the best JRPG since old FF!
>Muh dark Jrpg era!
>BF is the best jrpg ever made
Just because you decided to ignore the genre to focus only on shitty modern FF mainlines and/or others type of genre don't magically make the whole genre """"dead"""
>>338199135
The genre isn't dead but certainly isn't flourishing.
What better JRPGs from the last 10 years can you even name aside from Xenoblade, SMT and Radiant Historia?
>>338199135
>Asshurt faggot chimes in
Every time.
>>338199464
I'd argue that BD is better than Xenoblade, SMT and Radiant Historia.
Not trying to shit talk those games, since I found all of them fun, but I personally enjoyed BD more than all of them.
I am interested to see what this guy would consider better.
>Inb4 some hipster trash like TiTS (which is boring as fuck and one of the few JRPG's I've dropped these past few years)
>>338197992
Yes, the celestial realm is basically our world. Altair, Deneb, and Vega are 'real' humans.
Altair came to Luxendarc using an invention so he could spread his gadgets and gizmos to people (the rice cooker, the summons, the buster ships)
>>338199719
Wasn't the celestial realm attacked and that's why Altair and Deneb left?
>>338199695
What's TiTS?
>>338182249
Yeah, Chapter 5-8 is indeed just a shameless rerun of everything, and takes away from the game, but you can always trigger the ending by Chapter 5 and call that your finale. By Chapter 6 you have enough jobs mastered to do the entire Asterisk Team run Unscathed and in no more than 10 turns. That is even without the Mammon gp cheese and ensuing gratuitous BP drinks.
Despite all this, the game's gold.
>>338200048
trails in the sky
>>338197992
>>338199719
The game is pretty damn deep and mysterious. How did Yew recognize Jackal and Derosa? Did you die in the prologue when Kaiser attacked him?
>>338186607
You know, there's a charm to Ringabel that just isn't present on the myriad of anime out there.
I don't know if it's his IDGAF attitude while both being universally ignored, and in other worlds, his ability to get ass like a millionaire.
Or the fact he's your generic ladykiller turning back to his BAMF self after getting rid of his amnesia.
Either way, he'll get his dick sucked here or in the game. You can't stop the inevitable.
>>338198804
>I guess it's a "test drive" time for a 100+ hour game.
I completed the game at 40 hours, and that was with a significant amount of fucking around. Oh, I'm certain someone could sink 100+ hours into the game, especially if they wanted to max everything and get that little village completed. But finishing the game takes nowhere near that long.
>>338201142
Took me about 70.
>>338180743
For 5-10 burger bucks? Yes.
For 30-40? No chance
The only thing it has going for it is the combat and how hard you can break the game and even then it's not even close to the best turn-based systems I've played
>>338201142
When you put it that way, it's even worse. For a 40 hour game, 10 hours is way long for a decision to drop. 10 hours is what, mid-chapter 3?
Yeah, I guess the time I lost between getting the hang of shit, trying to get some strange event to happen, and fucking around ramped up my time to 95 hrs. I did it blind with the intent on finding stuff. Village is inconsequential, unless you were glued to your 3DS all the time.
Go to work, get a sensible amount of villagers to work on 2-3 buildings that take the longest, come back, get upgrade, put them to work during playtime, net invite, rinse, repeat.
Fun fact: Every single new asterisk holder in B2nd was designed by a different artist. The Catmancer was done by the guy who made Soul Eater and the Hawkeye was done by the guy who drew for SAO.
>>338202509
Wait, I thought Yoshida was in charge of the designs.
>>338180743
repetitive story mode
you will see
easy to break like any rpg
difficulty settings, able to change random encounter frequency, even to zero which i guess is nice late game but makes it easy
>>338202590
He drew the actual art you see, but they were all designed by different artist.
>>338181890
that and agnes's autism
>>338202509
I can definitely see a little bit of Soul Eater in Minette.
>>338202652
>chance to modify random encounters
>makes it easy
When you have shit like a Teleport Stone and game-breaking job combos, this shit is a welcome addition. Likewise, it saves time to avoid going all the way to heal because you were barely able to take down a mob, like in the Keep on the Prologue. Yes, you proved you could take him down, now I actually want to get to the boss without sinking 4 hours on this part because the game decided to make the intro a battle of attrition.
You cross that line, and you make the game as easy or hard as you want it. That shit is boss.
Both the game and its sequel are amazing, I don't understand why it's so hated on here beyond censorship.
>>338203143
i put 60 hours in and runnin the dark knight cheese with the spell fencer ability and yada yada i haven't booted it up in awhile. i stopped at the adventurer and i'm near the end after the big reveal
i dont know i put it down. guess i got bored after grinding everything from the village to max, all the classes max, level 99. its incredibly easy to max shit besides the village which just takes time.
i think me having the autism to have to 100% everything tired me out with doing each temple 4 times and doing all the side missions over and over.
fuck that village nemesis with the samurai guy who takes no damage.
>>338203490
forgot to say
dark knight/ freelancer
arcanist(the pretty much other black mage)/blackmagic
spiritmaster/whitemage
monk/vampire
those level 99 nemesis and + are still hard, and i still haven't got all the blue magic for vamp
>>338203668
I was a bigger fan of Vampire/Freelancer with Blood Sword's buff
dealing AoE damage cap while healing the same amount for 10 turns was hilarious
>>338199826
The celestial realm they come from is way in the future where rain is poisonous and technology is much more advanced though they don't really explain the reason for the escape.
Something else to consider is that in BD they make a point that not only are there infinite parallel worlds but there's also infinite parallel worlds running at different times. So Agnes from a failed world jumped to another luxendarc that was a couple thousand years behind the other one.
You could apply the same thing to the celestial realm so the earth Altair and co come from isn't necessarily our earth but could be a parallel earth hundreds or even thousands of years ahead of us.
I fucking love the exorcist class in Second
>>338204048
>Vampire/Freelancer
I meant Vamp/Conj, shit
I don't know, it was hilarious how nearly nothing countered it since apparently giving more than 2 bosses a way to dispel your buffs was too much effort
>>338204395
i like vamp because he has so much versatility
i just like the monk/vamp because you do the no equip and just use the physical based vamp moves
but man the monk skin is ugly
i was a bit disappointed with the conj, i was hoping it did a party wide buff instead of individual.
>>338204592
>monk skin is ugly
Fuck you man, Edea as a Monk is adorable. She's almost as cute as Summoner Agnes
>>338203490
I think that pure damage is something best avoided, really. The game went from an interesting challenge during Chapters 1-4 to butt-ass easy with abilities like Bone Crush, Minus Strike and Takeover just breezing through armor.
I liked the fact that you needed Bravely Second to actually deal hard damage, and had 3 or 4 chances per battle to do so. It balanced shit up.
But then Squeenix wised up on this and did bosses designed to be cheesed outside the usual parameters, making a potentially more interesting hidden boss fight a boring repetition.
I mean, a 1.5M health bar that can be auto-cheesed? Eat shit, man.
>>338204739
oh i never made my fems into physical vocations
i dunno i always went agnes healer, edea the off magic, ringabel damage dealer and tiz as filler
i guess the visual outfits you get make up for it
>>338204771
man i never got the hang of bravely second. i still dont know how it works
>>338204967
Damage and healing cap: 9999.
Bravely Second: no caps, done at any time, but needs sleep time (or funbucks) to be executed.
That's all there is to it. Basically an instant, interrupting, limitless action.
Who's your favourite asterisk holder /v/?
>>338204771
>Using Bravely Second for anything but a high damage send
You don't need it for any encounter. Beat the game on Hard without using Spiritmaster or Bravely Second (outside of the tutorial). There are plenty of ways to do insane damage. Like Rage+Drain Sword Magic w/ a Dancer/Freelancer feeding the party with bp.
>>338205762
Jackal for BD, Rev for B2nd.
>>338205762
i like the ninja
>>338205762
Einheria because she is cuter than her sisters
It's classic FF but with modern P2W or absurd grind bullshit even for a RPG, dont bother
>>338205958
As stupid as the Valkyrie clothes look, they have a weird coolness to them.
>>338183040
That's because the plot got changed during Second's development.
The scene Magnolia appears in at the end of Default and the same scene in game where changed to fit the two year time skip. Which makes her "You get to live in the same era as me, you lucky dog!" line make little to no sense now.
>>338205878
How is your build any different than protecting a minus strike DK with double hp and a Ribbon? If you don't use Bravely Second for insane damage, it doesn't matter if it's Rage or an auto scheme of Full Leverage Takeover after leaving Mammon's bank broke, it's all the same shit.
Now, if you're telling me your Rage build does 300k damage when Bravely Seconded in a single turn, then I'm all ears.
>>338206410
Literally meant to be the main party. Enjoy your Edea.
>>338205984
>P2W
>Absurd grind
So you didn't play BD then, got it. If you think the grinding in BD is "absurd" then you really haven't played any JRPGs
>>338207013
B2nd could have been so much better than it was and it makes me sad.
>>338207013
Janne was annoying though, much better as an enemy
>>338205762Alternis
>>338207119
By P2W I assume he means that 'pay us real money and we'll let you stop time and get super critcals mid-battle' thing. As for the grinding, you can't really use a job well unless it's max level since the damage scaling is retarded, so if you want to enjoy the combat by switching around and experimenting you need to max them all first. Which is pretty grindy, even though you can auto-battle with a speed up. Beyond the combat, he might be referring to the 'play the same core of the game a billion times to get the real ending' as grindy, which it absolutely is.
>>338207882
There's no real grind though. The grinding in BD and ESPECIALLY Second is so trivial and fast that it's pitiful.
>>338207292
Jeanne was annoying but at least he balanced out Yew who was even worse.
Without him it was just Magnolia sucking his dick whilst Tiz and Edea couldn't give less than a fuck about anything.
>>338208216
The problem with Tiz and Edea was that they were literally just there. They served no purpose to the plot.
>>338207882
P2W in a marginal sense. You get your 3 SPs for emergencies or damage delivery. If you need more, you need to reconsider your strategy, not blame it on the game. If you're bad enough to actually pay any attention to SP, you deserve to get your money leeched.
Grindy? Yes, I suppose, but here's the thing: By the beginning of Chapter 5, you can already take down Airy and her second form with few hardships, on a blind run. It was my case. If you're so antsy to get to the finale, using the same cheese against the 4 temples, 3 more times (since by Ch. 8 you just need to do one) will take you no more than 3 hours, if you don't skip the cutscenes.
I can't vouch for how hard is Ouroboros on a lv. 60 run, but hey, nothing stops you from grinding for an hour to get to lv 80. The tools for cheese are there since Chapter 5.
>>338207013
I really can't imagine the whole game with those two in the party. Much better as enemies.
And I like both Edea and Tiz, the only stinker is Magnolia.
>>338208619
Then you didn't play the demo, which proved that theres a lot more chemistry between Yew and Magnolia with those two.
>>338208321
They were just there because Japs have fucking awful taste and they the most popular boy and girl characters from Default.
>>338208968
I'm fully aware
>>338204771
>I mean, a 1.5M health bar that can be auto-cheesed? Eat shit, man.
What really pissed me off is that no other strategy really works without a bit of luck, even at level 99.
>>338208937
did play the demo, and the chemistry wasn't there. It was just Janne being a cunt and Nikolai being amused about the other two.
What do you guys think of Bravely Second anyway? I think I'm about 75% done and I'm kinda split. Pacing is better and it feels better overall in gameplay but you can blatantly tell there was a change in the plot and setting, resulting in reused assets up the ass. Plot just doesn't have that same sense of urgency as BD, not the first was that great anyway.
>>338210116
I can agree that the game as a whole is shitly written, but there was SOME semblance of chemistry between the three that was COMPLETELY absent in the main game with Tiz and Edea.
>>338210219
I feel the same way you do except I hate that a lot of the jobs I loved such as Spiritmaster where removed from Default.
>>338210219
I loved every minute of it, but I can't help but feel like it should have been more. Flipping through Yew's journal and learning about the world was so much fun since I love the setting
