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Why can't devs get mechs right anymore? It's always
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Why can't devs get mechs right anymore? It's always Battletech "awkward metal boxes shuffling along at 5 MPH" or Gundam SEED "giant metal ninja with wings".

Never that delicious sweet spot where they're both terrifyingly heavy and unsettlingly fast.

Mech games thread I guess. Anything good coming out soon?
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>>338158476
SRW OG MD, SD Gundam G Genesis Generations, Brigador, that one mech game from Vanillaware with almost no info.
VS Force and Breaker 3 is out.
It's an okay year.
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>>338158882
Sunrise really fucking love the letter G, don't they
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>>338159215
Who doesn't?
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>>338158476
Battletech > anime style (for lack of a better term)
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>>338159461
oh yeah, Battletech. Native western giant robots, the pinnacle of creativity.
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>>338159738
>>338159461

that's ugly af desu
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>>338159969
>being this new
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>>338159461
ha you wish bruv

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iD94oyGv88
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>>338159461
>Battletech
>above anything

top fucking kek

East vs. West aside, Battlemechs are hideous, even after countless redesigns.

Is pretending they look good some kind of meme, or elaborate in-joke? How delusional do you have to be to not think the Timberwolf looks retarded?
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>>338159461
its a shame MWO turned out to be pay2win shit

Mechcommander 3 will never be made
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Like, it shouldn't even have to be said that this looks bad.

Are Battletechfags under some kind of mass hypnosis?

I'm all for slow, lumbering, missile platform mechs, but there's such a thing as doing it wrong.
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>>338160263
>posting the worst mech commander
WEW LAD
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Am I the only one that likes Armored Core's esthetic the best? I think for the most part they best combine the fantastical Japanese style with the more practical Western style.
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>>338159738
>he plays mech games for creativity
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>>338160983
I like the ones in Front Missions.
Similar?
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>>338160516
They're supposed to be ""realistic""
I that way, I like that they look ugly as sin.
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>>338160993
>missing the point
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>>338158476
Your image is mechs not done right at all either, so i'd stop being hypocritical if you're gonna post porn
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>>338160983
You mean they're a straightforward example of the practical Japanese style, which is its own thing?
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>>338158476
>tfw no MS-09B DOM gf
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>>338161119
Yeah they definitely have similarities, and I'm also a fan of those designs as well.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRlRFZPbtdo

More of this desu
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>>338159461
There have been many great non-anime mechs.

None of them are from Battletech. Except the Atlas.
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>>338158476
I guess the new Heavy Gear might be alright. Those mechs fit into that middle ground.
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>>338160983
Mixed. Does look good but some of 4's iterations don't click with me.
>>338161242
Truly. Even goes into real life.
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>>338159215

It's the most badass letter in the english alphabet
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>>338158476
Hi.
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>>338159461
I love how much bettletech triggers anime fags.
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Hey, Front Missionfags.

How does it feel to know that this guy is what comes to most people's minds when you say "Japanese mech"?
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The west generalyy treats mechs as tools and weapons in themselves.
The east generally treats mechs as an extension of the user.
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>>338162053
>anime fags
you mean battletech designers?
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>>338159461
>>338162053
Why the obsession with the Mad Cat though? It's trash.

Why not something that isn't shit, like the King Crab?
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>>338162172
why I need to care about "most people"?
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>>338161776
G is the older neighbor of the real baddest ass letter, F.
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>>338161384

But that's a Rick Dom II
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>>338162385
Its the mascot for the series. I like how its cockpit is shaped like a nuke.
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>>338162675
did somebody say 'Rick'
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>>338162251
>The east generally treats mechs as an extension of the user.
yeah, until 1979 year.
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>>338162172
How can anyone like the Strike Freedom's tacky gold frame. Even the normal Freedom is miles better.
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Dont you niggas want this sweet robo-booty
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>>338163140
SEED is cancer
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>>338162385
Honestly I prefer the jenner but there's only so much you can do with a light mech.
Mounting dual PPCs on it was stupid fun.
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>>338163162
Is that the trap one?
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>>338163162
More.
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>>338163162
>>338163404
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>>338163756
>fleshy bits
its shit! SHIT!
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So basically, you want a good Votoms game?
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>>338163241
See, now that's a nice mech. People should post more Jenners. Or Locusts.
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>>338158476
I'm getting really bothered by your picture anon. REALLY bothered.
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>>338164353
good
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>>338164353
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>>338164785
Sweet Jesus anon. You are doing things to me.
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>>338164516
>>338163162
>>338158476
>anno domini 2016
>still no commercially available sexbots

why is god cruel to us
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>>338164516
thiqq
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fighter jet mech > tank mech

but fantasy mech is best of all
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>>338165054
dunno if agree
but Galient is awesome
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>tfw new Gungriffon never
It was exactly what OP is talking about.
I still think Chromehounds has the best mechs
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>>338158476

Still looking for that killer App, ay mechbois?
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>>338163162
I love his figures
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>>338165649
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>>338158476
Is that a sexy Zaku?
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>>338165519
Imagine if we never invented gunpowder, and tanks fought by using their turrets to swing giant axes around

Wouldn't that be fuckin rad
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>we'll never have ZOE3
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>expecting any good mecha games to come out any time soon
Maybe in my next life or whenever everyone quits collectivelly shitting on whatever new game does come out
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>>338165853
>implying Zaku are not sexy by default
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I think my favorite mech game is probably Heavy Gear on PC from like 15-20 years ago
Loved the shit out of that game
I found out that they made a second one so I searched far and wide for it
Went on a vacation with my family and I saw a copy of it in the back of an EB Games and I got it
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>>338160983
>practical Western style.
>practical
kek
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>>338165542
who makes em? they look great
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>>338165649
this is a high level fetish
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>>338161504
i'll never be this good
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>>338162172
>it's west vs east thread
fuck off /co/
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>>338158476
>Shittalking SEED style high speed robot action

Hang yourself. Sure, I love a weighty mech game too, but you can't deny the pleasure of having to react like a fucking newtype.
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>>338165201
THAT FUCKING SONG MAN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2CiX6ArmsQ
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>>338165519
needs a arm and a leg
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>>338166486
game?
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>>338166486
Macross does that style much better

Gundam's thing is dramatic, protracted duels
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>>338166508
it's the greatest thing, indeed.
https://youtu.be/71JdjgtNd8M
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>>338164983
>>338165542
>robot
>still has anime face

what's the point
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>>338166732
Extreme VS, I guess latest arcade version cause I don't recognize UI
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>>338166486
Maxi Boost ON for PS4 fucking when
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>>338166843
oral sex
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>>338166843
try to contrarian out of this anon
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>>338166843
better than fleshy bits
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>>338166732
Extreme VS, last one that came out on console was Full Boost on PS3.

>>338166749
Macross does itano circus missile spam and zip zoop barrel rolls. You can't just classify Gundam as only having one style at this point when even UC has varied from somewhat realistic combat settings like 08th MS and Bernie's Burgers to Unicorn and Victory which are as anime and ridiculous as GBF in parts.

The joy of Gundam is that you can have a poe faced strategy game, a slower paced shooter or a full on anime gangbang and still have it be true to the source material.
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>>338161384
>Girls und Panzer
>Rick Dom II
What?
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>>338166961
I don't know if I want it.
that would mean paying for PS+
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>>338167251
that's nice mechs you got on the pick there, anon
especially top one.
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>>338166961

Literally never, you'll take the garbage Vita port and you'll like it. EXVS does gorilla numbers in the arcade and porting it hurts that, don't expect any port until a new version comes out in the arcade, if ever.

I'm shocked Dissidia is getting a console release so soon after the arcade release.
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>>338167251
stupid beins, you will never be a gundam
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>>338167384

GALILNAGANT GET YE GONE
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>>338160248

it's just old jaded losers still in this Tibetan knitting forum wishing to show to everyone just how long he didn't touch video games already.
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>>338167427
but we have to
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Why must they always look humanoid with a head, arms, body, and walking legs?
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SupCom had some decent mech designs, even if they're not piloted.
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>>338162802
Catapult > Mad Cat

The Cat's weird little arms are dumb as fuck.
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>>338167653
>Implying
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>>338167653
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>>338167653
>and walking legs
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What about the mechs in Titanfall. They seemed pretty neat. Never played the game though.
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>>338167653
>he wants his mech to look like a fat, walking tank
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>>338163367
No, its the schoolgirl one
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>>338167964
>mechs
they were ok, but that's about it.
also, whole 3 types for whole game
wow
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>>338167883
>Posting unfinished suits and claiming they're supposed to look like that

Char pls go
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>>338166843
That is how the Braves looked in show. Metal humanoid faces.
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>>338168003
>Indirectly talking shit about my waifu

I'll fucking cut you.
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>>338167964
never played it either, but my impresion from watching some of the gameplay is that it controls pretty much the same as you would control the player outside the mech.
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>>338168140
>Corvids 04
>Spacers 09
>Loyalists 05

how do you want your center of gravity, pilot?
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Mechs that look like Transformers are fucking dumb; it's basically a fucking big metal ninja.

The cool mechs are the ones more grounded in reality; slow, lumbering beasts that adhere to principles of realism.
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>>338168049
no
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Closest thing we're going to get to a 40k mech game.
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>>338168156
Now that's better. Slightly.
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>>338168003
Well I think that's the point of mechas, is that they're tanks that can get to places normal tanks can't.
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>>338168380
>fucking big metal ninja
>talking shit about Volfogg
nigga you fucked up
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>>338168397
>Imperium """"""""""technology""""""""""
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>>338168380

>A walking pile of guns and exposed vital components
>Grounded in reality

I guess tanks just strap their engine to the front armor as well and have the gun in a wire-frame mount :^)
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>>338168380
>Slow lumbering mechs that adhere to realism

What utility would a slow mech even serve? A tank would outperform it at nearly everything

Mechs are inherently unrealistic so who gives a shit
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>>338168592
Ideally, yes. In reality, too many weak-points to make that good of a tank, and lacks the stability.

It WOULD make a good IFV, though. Quick, nearly immune to small arms, and it could carry some heavy weaponry.
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>>338168156
Oh wow is the head unit/ also the cockpit AND a separate hovership?
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Digitigrade mechs are best mechs and I will fight anybody who says otherwise.
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>>338168380
>implying
By grounding things in 'reality' you're actively preventing the game that has the mechs from doing anything cool. I mean it's fine if you find other things appealing about them, but that's really all I'm in for when there's mechs present somewhere.
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>>338168664
>mfw Tau can't make real titans
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>>338168834
I'm tied between them and quads.
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>>338168789
innovative concept, I know
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>>338168789

I don't think I've ever seen the eject mechanism on it, it might eject but it doesn't detach and fly around making a nuisance of itself like a pilder/core fighter.
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>>338168664
>the Tau's largest "battlesuit" that tries its hardest to emulate Titans cannot walk despite having legs and despite being the absolute pinnacle of their technological progress still has an unstable experimental reactor

Tau "relevance"
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>>338168834
I miss those old laser models.
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>>338168664
imperial tanks and artillery are simply the best
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>>338169052

At least they're making progress, not just mining 10,000 year old blueprints out of the martian soil they no longer properly understand, sticking them together on forge worlds and splashing them with holy water when they don't work.
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So I gotta ask, do realismfags and animefags ever buy mecha games that go the opposite way of their taste? Or do they stick to their own stuff while ignoring games that do not match what they like?
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>>338169154

Please.
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>>338169261
Even the Orks figured out Titans before the Tau
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>>338169393

But I like both.
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>>338169393
it's same as being idort
you kinda argue here and there and have some preferences, but you still buy both.
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>>338169404
a dildo ?
no wonder why it's a dying race
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>>338169052
>>338169449
>butthurt babies that Tau will NEVER EVER EVER EVER go away from 40k
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>>338169449
>Orks
>figured out

They didn't figure shit out, they literally run on magic psychic hopes and dreams.
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>>338169393
I'd like to say both, but there's only handful of eastern games that appeal to me.
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>>338168738
Well I think the main problem always comes back to the legs, but I'd argue it's the same for actual tanks, which basically become stationary guns if the treads get jacked up. The thing is real world tanks are still in attack position if they get immobilized.
>>338168694
A bipedal could get to places a traditional tank couldn't.
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>>338169730

What about this?
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>>338169642
hm, wouldn't that mean that orks' titans technically counts as super robots?
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>realismfags only ever use battletech as examples

baka senpai make it less obvious the only /m/ thing you've seen is robotech
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>>338166028
This
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>>338169642
>EET JUS' WERKZ!
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>>338169808
Hidolfr is cute, CUTE
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>>338169810

Shit son, I fucking hate Orks but you just gave me a new level of respect for them.
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>>338169808
God, this thing is amazing.
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>>338160983
>>338161242
>mech needs to bull the trigger

the dumbest shit
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>>338162172
Glad that im not one of them and think of this instead
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>>338169642
>orkz see titans for the first time
>think the humies made a giant mecha emprah
>decide thats the coolest shit and make gigants look like gork and mork
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>>338169983
I'll take that over painting red everything
cause whenever I reference red things going 3 times faster other people think of orks. kinda makes me sad a bit
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>>338169642
>it's an Orks are literally magic meme
Well thank you for proving a point, whatever it was
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>>338170279
What you want to always be stuk with the same weapon? You can't change weapons in combat without hands.
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>splashes externally
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So does /v/ like the slightly bigger than power armor type mechs, a la GitS, or towering giants?
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>>338158476
Never let white people design robots.
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>>338170393
source?
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>>338168889
>mfw choaz can only steal others titans
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>You will never see a new game with bulky old school anime power armour, only super sleek futuristic designs
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>>338169261
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>>338170617
https://vndb.org/v3892
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>>338170594
y u dislike mustache gundam anon
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>>338158476
are Vital Suits mechs?
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>>338170279
It's all about that interchangeable weaponry, and being able to do other tasks that require grasping.
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>That 1 second Trans-Am activation
>Jams the pistol into the Garazuakuwhateverthefuckitwascalledagain
>CLICK CLICK NIGGA
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>>338170594
>Shittalking Syd Mead

Kill yourself without delay.
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>>338170872
More like power armor.
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>>338170749
Syd Mead is a black dude wearing a disguise.

Don't fall for his tricks!
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>>338170743
I had suspicion but didn't think I was right.
shame that only one game got west release and no fan translations anywhere
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>>338158476
Because real mechs should not be shitty gundam bots that take cover behind buildings, but rather a walking fortress.
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>>338171154
This nigga wants to get toppled over. Come on everybody just give him a light push!
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I was going to post about wanting a Heavy Gear reboot.
But then I googled and learned that it's an actual thing.
And now I'm just scared it's going to suck.
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>>338171154
>real mechs
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Where do you draw the line between mech and power armor?
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>>338169808
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZuZdykKwxE

It's pretty neat. Some cheesiness in the animation aside, you really have to see it in action to appreciate it.

It's like some kind of crazy fucking intermediary Metal Gear unit that never was, one that invested heavily in "Haha, fucking tank treads".

You also have "Surprisingly fast for being big, while also being like Jaws/Jason Voorhees", like the Gouf Custom. Oh, I guess it also sort of has the whole confounding "slow walk" speed too. It shows up in surprising places like Mobile Suit Batman. And it is by far the biggest and most brutish looking Mobile Suit in that scene. In Battletech terms I guess it's "Thing" is kind of like what "Heavy Mechs that also FLY" like the Thor have going. It's surprisingly mobile, and bulky. Timberwolves are like that too. However ugly you think they look, they can MOVE.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-Z6vcNX4_E
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Post robutts
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>>338171658
when you get a cockpit
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>>338171658
Normally I'd say size. As well as input. Mechs require a cockpit.
The Iron man suit is power armor. But Hulk Buster would be Mech. I think. Some /m/bro will have to elaborate more.
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>>338171963
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>>338171261
Push all you want, I weight five billion tons and have a stabilizer field.
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Reminder that Gunpla is Freedom
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>>338171776
>>338171909
Say, the robot is 13' tall and the MC 6'. Would that qualify as a mech? Or is it too small?
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>>338172134
Of course. Scopedogs are only 3 meters tall.
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>>338160217
>>338160217
>Topgun OST/Macross Mashups incoming


>AFTERBURNING INTENSIFIES!
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>>338172134
cockpit = mech
no cockpit = not mech
red + horn = char custom
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>>338172108
Shit anon you forgot your picture
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>>338172396
But what if the cockpit is the torso?
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Is Metroid a mech?
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>>338172396
>red + horn = char custom
>not amazing
that's not really AMEIJIN anon
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Fact:
Zakus are realistic and practical humanoid mechs

Fact:
Zakus are sexy as fuck
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>>338172528
see >>338172298
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>>338172528
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>>338172690
>>338172739
Thanks a lot, I'll go make a mech game now
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>>338159461
robotech > battletech
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>>338160217
Was that Starship Troopers OST in there?
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>>338172658
Fact:
GMs are still better
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>>338172967
FICTION
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>>338173031
monoeyes are shit
shit
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>>338172967
This.
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>>338172850
Sounds good anon. Try to add skating if you can!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqAmzPj9bLE
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>>338172967
>>338172658
What if I just love workhorse suits altogether and not the special snowflakes.
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>>338161384
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>>338173253
literally a perfection
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>>338173447
PRIDE OF MASS PRODUCTION
WELCOME TO THE CLUB
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>>338173253
that is really cool
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Why was this fight so much better than anything else in Gundam?
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>>338173821
OVA budget + better theme than other OVA
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>>338173821
That's not Thunderbolt.
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>>338173821
Too bad the rest of 08th MS was terrible. That fight was really cool, though.
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>>338173821
Dat Third Reich sounding theme the entire time.
VII is my god damn jam.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AR3-Qy1BLuw
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>>338174226
>Too bad the rest of 08th MS was terrible
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>>338169730
The issue being that legs, as a broad statement, have more vulnerable points, and what you said. A mech on its side is fucked.
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Just got into Gundam, started with Turn A (for some odd reason), then watched 0079 (as well as a some more OYW shit like 0080, 8th MS, and almost IGLOO but chickened out because of DEM GRAFIKS) and am currently half way through Zeta. What do I watch next?

>>338174226
You stupid or something? The forbidden love subplot was half-baked as fuck, sure, but the rest was pretty good.
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>>338170661
Youre realizing chaos are a bunch of niggers.


Does explain why they love the color black. So is the black crusade just blm let out of thier zoo called detroit? Oh shit detroit truly is the eye of terror

>> inb4 hurr durr /pol/
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>>338174838
I think he means the fight, which is pretty great and well animated. What happens after and before the fight is anime story bullshit.
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>>338158476
Fast mechs are fucking shit, that's why.
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>>338174838
just go via chronological release
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>>338160983
Armored core has the best designs and the best games that mechs have ever been a part of.
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>>338174838
To be fair. The Director died while this was being made.
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>>338174838
Gee, probably watch the sequel to Zeta or something anon.
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>>338172426
Tryon 3 was literally the best fucking thing about that show.
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>>338170875
IRL we'd still probably find a way for the mech to interface with the gun without pulling a trigger or using radio communications and still be able to swap guns.
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>>338175075
You're not /pol/, you're just retarded.
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>>338167270
It's a book that compares the main tanks in GuP to mobile suits.
It's great.
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>>338169261
But when they reach the 20,000 year old blueprints shit is gonna get REAL.
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Anime Janai
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>>338175749
>"HOLY SHIT GUYS NOW WE CAN EAT EGGS ON THE GO!"
>"THE ENEMIES OF THE IMPERIUM ARE DOOMED THANKS TO OUR NEW RATION TECHNOLOGY!"
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>>338168003
Shut your mouth, Mistral II a cute.
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>Excellen's VA died from cancer

;_;
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>>338175676
I legitimately do not see the point in that book. You may a well have one that compares grass to sports cars or some shit.
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Cyberbots is the best mecha game ever made and you faggots know this.

It had some of the best mecha designs in vidya history.
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>>338170338
I wonder if they got inspired by Gundam.
I mean 40k did come after 0079.
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>>338176241
>Comparing tanks to walking tanks is like comparing grass to sports cars

nigger what?
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>>338167404
most likely
>arcade release japan
>console release PAL and NTSC/U
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>>338175676
Got a link to where I can check it out?
Tanks and mechs are love.
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>>338171658
The Votoms director said he draws the line at 3.5 meters.
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>>338176215
https://youtu.be/OrOySCZrNMU
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>>338176449
I'm in a good mood tonight so here you go.
http://g.e-hentai.org/g/622650/4c6e77f4f4
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>>338168394
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>>338171963

What shoulders are those?
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>>338160087
>YOU CAN'T HURT ME, JACK
>There goes the neighborhood...
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>>338176386
One of those groups consists of real designs from up to 90 years ago that are constrained by the realities of physics and contemporary technology. The other is made up of giant magic space robots running on the literal exact opposite set of criteria to the first with meaningless numbers tacked on after the fact to make them seem more 'technical'.

It's about as meaningful as comparing grass to sports cars. Which is to say not at all.
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Hey everyone.
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>>338158476
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Best gaming mecha.
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>>338177379
"Titans are not mechs" says developer of Titanfall as he sweats profusely and lacks any sort of self awareness.
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>>338172097
Why is EDF4.1 so fucking good?

Playing as a fencer feels like playing a mech
>dat dash 2 button combo makes you the fastest class in game
HNNGGGGGGG

unrelated video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjlghf2OQdk
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ACV got a lot of flak, but I loved how heavy and shoddy your mech felt. Like you were in a giant, slapped-together, bipedal robot powered by fucking rockets. Felt so good.

>>338170279
I always did want the weapons in AC to be integrated into the arms. They even had a few parts that did just that. A shame they tended to be awful more often than not.
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>>338177765
can't wait for new interview about 2nd game
it'd be fun if they backpedal
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