Aren't you glad they didn't rush it?
People still hate the new visuals
>>338094784
they only changed the lighting,which is terrible with all the vignetting
>>338094898
But the grass and the foliage are radically different.
>>338094898
and the full on scale of the open world,
and the fights with summons which would have actually been CGI instead of actual fights in game.
>>338094991
shit i hope
they had 10 years
>>338094784
i wish they would have rushed it, then it wouldnt have that god awful gameplay. i was so hyped until i played that demo. and ff7 is supposed to have the same gameplay?
>>338095295
No, FF7 will actually feel polished cause Tetsuya wouldn't release garbage to the public like Tabata did,
>>338095610
Remember that Nomura actually wanted XV to be a musical.
>>338094784
The gameplay was an instant "no, I'll pass" to this game. They made a bad move by releasing that demo. Sales will suffer.
My faith in the franchise is lower than ever. I actually enjoyed FF XIII in many aspects, specially gameplay late in the game, but this... I just don't wanna waste money.
>>338095959
Maybe you should have played the actual demo and not the tech demo before you decided how you feel about the gameplay - which doesn't actually exist in the tech demo.
>>338096038
What you mean? I played the Platinum Demo distributed a month or two ago. Is there a second demo?
Combat sucked hard.
>>338096265
Are you sure your played the platinum demo correctly?
>>338094784
I'm in it for the music as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MnIn63Vewg
>>338095610
If you are talking about anything where he is the director, we have Days, DDD, and Advent Children. I didn't personally hate AC, but enough people do that it can be mentioned.
>>338095878
a ff musical would be a fantastic thing
>>338096349
>every thread
Do you even sleep?
You're the new XV-kun at this point
>>338096441
>in it for the music
>doesn't even postthe OST
dead on arrival
>>338096891
Unless I'm missing something there's only the few songs that were played during the demo that have been released.
>>338096551
You forgot KH 1 and 2.
>>338096349
>correctly
You mean by wasting all your MP and barely doing any damage?
You might as well just use the boradsword and deal way more damage
>>338094784
I didn't know XV was going to take to place in Bionis
>>338096551
AC's problem was that Nomura only wanted it to be a short or OVA, not a feature length movie with some convoluted plot. Basically a CGI tech demo.
>>338096979
I'm going with general consensus, not personal opinion. That is why I mentioned AC even though I enjoyed the movie. KH 1 & 2 are considered great games.
>>338096349
What kind of gameplay is that?
Is it an action game like DMC?
>>338094784
I had a friend who, back when we were teens, bought a PS3 in anticipation for this game. I'm not sure how glad he is that he had to wait given that cancer took him last year.
>>338097247
Sort of. It's pretty shallow, but it's servicable. Pretty unique, too.
>>338096349
The combat in Episode Duscae was better and that's not saying much.
The only thing FFXV has going for it is the graphics and the world size.
Gameplay wise i wouldn't be suprised if it turns out to be the worst one yet.
>>338094784
please put some more jpeg into your picture so we can see all those details.
>>338096349
That's my reason for hating the combat right there.
It tries to be a Souls game. It tries to be a Kingdom Hearts derivative. It tries to be a Final Fantasy. Fail in all attempts. It reminded me of Dawn of Mana, such a promising game with poor mechanics around the whole grab&throw stuff from the enviroment.
It's just something else other than a Final Fantasy.
>>338094784
Still doesn't matter, the world is going to be empty and uninteresting. They shouldn't have went open world.
>>338097368
I seriously don't know how do you play these new Final Fantasy games.
They all do these flashy moves, just like in Bayonetta, but with one button press?
>>338097438
Have an entire video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrupmBO8lJU
>>338097417
What exactly does Duscae have going for it with combat? I thought Platinum was much better with weapon switching, parrying, and other minor things.
>>338097556
Not one, but it's not deeo at all
It's pretty much style over substance, you have some directional inputs, but most of those moves are useless
>>338097517
No game should rely on open world to be "better".
>>338097325
Too real anon...
>>338096806
You're here too so I mean.
>>338097417
>Gameplay wise i wouldn't be suprised if it turns out to be the worst one yet.
Old games were
>Use default attack a whole bunch of times
>Sometimes cast a spell like reflect or an elemental spell that the enemy is weak against
>Sometimes instead of using attack you use a potion
>>338097368
>pretty shallow
Its not really that shallow. The combat has depth, but you have to look for it. People just don't like that you can hold buttons instead of having to tap them.
The truth is we have to wait for the real game. If the enemies get a lot harder, then you will be forced to explore the depths of the combat. If nothing in the game forces you to do this, than I can half accept it being called shallow.
>>338097556
Holding O causes you to constantly attack, and tilting the stick causes different things to happen depending on the weapon you have equipped. The sword and shuriken cause you to jump back into the air and attack from there, where further stick tilts will cause you to air dash. The greatsword and shield cause you to do a strong special attack when you tilt backwards. Holding the dodge button causes you to auto-dodge most attacks at the cost of MP.
>>338097747
But i don't post the same shitty webm every thread
>>338097517
Compared to a 70-hour hallway?
>>338097826
Is there any way to change the attack input?
I'd prefer mashing than holding down the button.
>>338097786
The thing is: the combat didn't need to go that way. Final Fantasy already was pretty fucking deep enough as it was in FFXII. Gambit system fucked up stuff for some people, but it could be solved pretty easily. If they plan going on action/adventure approach for battle system, XII had the perfect balance for a start.
>>338097896
Yes?
Open world doesn't automatically make it any better
>>338097786
Enemy variety will hopefully go a long way, but I feel like I've explored all the possibilities after fighting the Iron Golem a few times. I've fought him a lot because it's fun, but eventually it wears thin. That's why I call it 'serviceable', it's enough to sustain a Final Fantasy game because its strengths lie elsewhere, but the game won't be worth playing for the combat alone imo.
>>338097941
Nope
>>338097854
I'm not even going to deny I am the one posting it, but at the same time I know other people have been saving it and posting it too.
>>338097896
The best hallway action I had in years. Late game is great as something close to "open world".
Honestly I'm not feeling it yet. For some reason all the stuff I've seen so far about the game didn't really feel like a final fantasy. It didn't really feel like a JRPG either. It was like 90% on some boring ass roads or open field. I want to see some dungeons or more cities. I get this strange FFXIV feel where everything is fucking garbage, I don't want an offline MMO, I want a full blown JRPG with great dungeons and exploration.
>>338097975
Wasn't XV going to have a gambit system for your allies too?
>>338097941
You can do that, it doesn't matter.
>>338098084
Lies.
>>338095878
A jrpg musical would be cool and something different, i mean theres only 3 jrpg musicals to my knoweldge.
>>338098060
Pretty much
Doing air combos and shit is fun at first, but not for long and you'll just use the broadsword or anything that kills enemies fast for 90% of the game.
>>338097780
If only there were more SRPGs in the series. Positioning, timing, and moves like steal were very important in FFT. Also, I loved how too much grinding could make random encounters impossible since you couldn't get good enough gear unless you progressed the story, or got EXTREMELY lucky with stealing good gear during random encounters.
>>338094991
I heard they had to turn off most of the foliage and lighting to make the game run on console.
Someone was posting screens here a while ago.
I wouldn't trust those bullshots, same as any other console game advertising.
>>338097626
>What exactly does Duscae have going for it with combat?
More resposive and better framerate.
I know this will trigger consolefaggots, but the better framerate that Episode Duscae had made the combat much better, and even then it wasn't ideal.
This game needs a PC version badly.
>>338095878
I think thats theatrythm ff
>>338098176
I still would prefer if the game was mashing only and the attack would actually start up a little faster. You can just tell by the animations that barely blend well together and just repeat over and over again the the system is just base around holding a button. KH at least had combo extenders and combo finishers
>>338098307
My main concern is trash mobs. If Duscae is any indication they're more of annoyance than an engaging fight. Bosses and tougher enemies like the IG will be fun enough and hopefully encourage different weapons and tactics, but like you said, I'm worried I'll just be holding O with the broadsword in front of some goblins too often.
>>338098362
>I heard they had to turn off most of the foliage and lighting to make the game run on console.
Distributed realtime rendering over internet cannot come soon enough.
>>338098476
That's the big problem with open world. you have to put shit on the map every few meters to not make it the most boring game ever, but even monster will get boring fast
>>338098434
Well alright, but any substantive mechanical advantages?
>>338098146
I'm praying for Persona 5 to deliver at this point.
>>338098659
But persona has no exploration
FFXV will be seen like TPP was. Lots of potential but everything falls flat and ends being trite and boring.
>>338098918
Exploration of an empty world like in XV?
>>338097975
Positioning in MMO style combat just pisses me off. I would either prefer that I don't move during battle, or that movement is actually important. Don't give me this half assed shit where I need to move every now and then, but it doesn't matter too much how I move. Combine that with Gambits, and FFXII felt like the worst combat the series has ever seen, including both FFXV demos.
>>338098060
Considering it is just a tech demo, I still hold judgement for the final game. Weapons/magic have a big influence on how you approach a battle so there is just too much unknown. Either way, even with Platinum, it seemed like every time I thought I knew everything there is to know about the combat, the next day someone would be showing me something new.
>>338098985
One got stopped midway though development and released over a year ago. This didn't and has been in planning phase for about 5 years and actual development for another 5 years.
>>338098601
FFXV will have the same problem that every single fucking open world game is having this generation: nice looking world that is cool to look at, and wonder around, for about 5 minutes. Then you realize that it isn't very interactable and is kind of boring.
Even fucking Uncharted, a series of games that used to be a linear, turned into a ""open-world"" shit that is pretty, but boring.
I can't wait for developers to get over this "open-world era" that we are having at the moment.
>>338099020
Exploration of any kind
Persona 3 and 4 gives you one town and stupid random dungeons and that's it
XV I'm hoping will be like Xenoblade
>>338099076
So by your logic the longer it takes to make a game and the longer it is development hell, the better it will be?
I don't give a shit about Final Fantasy, but I'm pretty sure that it's been like a decade since the game was slated to come out, right? This is basically Jap Duke Nukem Forever.
>>338097896
Fuck. XIII looks incredible even 6 years after release.
It has many flaws, but graphics and music are just impossibly good.
>>338098615
Better framerate in an action game = substantive mechanical advantages.
FFXV with its 25 fps is unacceptable for this style of combat.
>>338098985
I just fucking hope that the story is at the very least is not unfinished and satisfying, unlike MGSV.
The OST will be great
That's probably about it, i will play it since i've waited since fucking 2006, but it'll probably be one of the more forgettable FFs
>>338094784
Talk about the game you fags.
The World of FFXV is called Eos.
Eos in Greek mythology is the Goddess of Dawn (dawn trailer and also logo of ffxv is a woman sleeping with half a sun behind her).
Her sister is the Goddess of the moon Selene. Her Roman equivalent is Luna.
Her brother is the God of the Sun Helios. The equivalent of Helios in Roman mythology was Sol. (Probably the god that Solheim will worship)
All three were Titans. (3 Huge beings appear in the Dawn trailer.)
Goddess Eos main responsibility in Greek mythology was to open the gates of heaven. She is pictured as a beautiful woman, crowned with a tiara and large wings. (the logo of ffxv has the sun looking like a crown and a single wing can be seen behind the woman)
So i assume that Etro, the Goddess of death was changed to Eos, the Goddess of Dawn and the Gate of Etro, a gate to the underworld was changed to the Gate of Eos, a gate to the heavens.
Goddess Eos was also known as "The Bringer of Light"
Also Noctis Lucis Caelum means "The night sky that belongs to the Light"
In the Dawn trailer a quote says "The stars chose THE SON to be their Light"
The lore seems tight so far. Everything makes sense.
>>338099209
I think his focus was on that TPP was rushed out the door as an unfinished product, which is never a good thing. XV won't be rushed out the door, and the development of the game hasn't been that long compared to normal games. The game may have been planned for a long time, but it wasn't actually being developed for a long time. The only thing that can be a source for concern is the jump from Versus to XV. If the major jump in the game's direction shows in the game, then it can cause a hit to quality.
>>338099345
Played it on PC the other day, looked way better than I remembered. Probably better than a lot of current gen games.
I'm not sure if I like this music
It's kind of a nice version of the classic FF theme but then it gets into buttrock territory with those drums and guitars in the middle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzIsbgDt5oM
>>338094784
old gameplay was better.
>>338099287
DNF had a prolonged development cycle, with a huge shift in developer. FFXV may have existed in name for a long time, but its development cycle has been closer to average. As far as I know, it hasn't suffered from a 100% change in developers.
>>338094784
>10 years
It should look better than battlefront by now.
>>338099498
So much for being a Fabula Nova Crystallis game.
>>338099498
thank you scholar-kun, seems good indeed.
sept 30 HYPE. call me a shill if you will but I for one am gonna support squenix with this one. final fantasy was an integral part of my growing up so dishing out 60 bucks in return is a trade that i will take, and this is coming from someone that is awfully picky with their money. I'm not sold on every aspect as of yet, but I'm sure it will actually be quite good after getting used to it. Probably not gonna be as good as P5, though.
So what do people feel about the game being based around a bachelor road trip?
>>338096349
Literally watered down jet li's rise to honor fighting mechanics, better off with kh's mechanics at this point.
>>338100354
Seems novel, I like it.
>>338099498
>implying the "lore" matter in any of these games
wew lad
>>338099345
>>338099723
Well its easy to make good looking games if you focused on art direction/style to complement the hardware capabilities. Basically designing visual that works nicely based on the tools/capabilities you have.
>>338100412
It gives some sort of decent reason behind the male cast.
>>338100448
>implying you will not be a cynical fuck about everything and just appreciate something nice for once
>>338100202
it has been known for a while that XVs current connection to the FNC has been reduced to a thematic base upon which original lore has been based.
The name change of Agito XIII to Type-0 was also to distance that game from the XIII series.
Square has been trying to kill the FNC for a while now.
>>338100448
The lore is the only thing that matters in Type-0 and XIII.
>>338094784
Production value is literally the only thing the game has going for it.
The rest sucks major ass. Especially the god awful combat.
If I wanted to play an action game I would play a fucking action game! Get this shit out of my JRPG!
>>338099498
Do we have any fucking clue how much different the two battle modes will be?
>>338094784
Yep
>>338094898
No they upgraded literally everything.
>>338101447
All they have said is thisThe equivalent to difficulty level settings in FFXV is a system where you can switch between different battle modes. By having this ability to switch modes, we want to make it so that both players who like action oriented, technical gameplay and also those who want to fight at a slower, more relaxed pace can all enjoy the combat in their own style. This switching system is a key part of the gameplay that we decided to introduce based on the feedback we received from the Episode Duscae demo. We will go into more detail about the system closer to the game’s launch so stay tuned for more information.
Dissidia has an RPG mode, i assume it will be something close to that.
>>338097417
No it wasn't.
>>338097509
Except it's FF as an Action RPG which it succeeds at being.
>>338100374
Except no, there is more input in XV than any KH ever had.
>>338097325
Damn, if that's true then that's fucking rough dude. You should write a letter to Squenix asking them if they're glad that they're loyal fans have died whilst waiting around for them to get their fucking act together.
>>338096987
Except using airstep warps isn't "wasting" MP it's using MP as intended and dealing quick nimble hits while maintaining mobility, where certain weapons use MP while others like Broadsword restore 20MP per hit and allows for aerial dodges to avoid the 4 swing attack Iron Giant, at least play the fucking demo before pretending you know what you are talking about.
>>338102374
Eh. People come and go. It's not their fault people die. Millions die daily even. Can't worry about that shit.
>>338102672
sure m8
>>338102374
Give this a read.
https://m.reddit.com/r/FinalFantasy/comments/4dghh8/why_i_will_do_everything_in_my_power_to_get_an/
>Inb4 reddit
Just read it
How the fuck are ground combos still unresponsive as shit even after several months work of feedback from Duscae? 1:1 input isn't asking too fucking much at all.
Fuck PD.
>>338097941
You can mash instead of holding, tapping gives you the benefit of manual vanquishes and by weapon switching restart you on crush
>>338097517
No it's already packed.
>>338098434
But that's wrong, it's less responsive if anything because no manual weapon switching, no aerial combat, only auto weapon switch. PD is slightly faster while being more responsive.
>>338097896
Not going to lie. Hallway Simulator 13 deluxe Ex-Military edition has my all-time favorite Heroine for some reason.
>>338100448
It's a core part of the story so yes it does matter.
>>338103837
Crush is 1:1, Vanquish is 1:1, aerial combo are 1:1, only ravage base combo isn't 1:1 but the directional inputs are.
>>338103690
For people who didn't read.
A guy asked SE if his dying friend could play XV, obviously the game wasn't done but SE sent him a box full of FF merchandise and signed artwork by XV artists for his wedding, plus recorded this video.
https://youtu.be/4UZ0HYNGJO0
His friend died recently, the guy said he wanted to go and thank SE for their kindness personally but XV devs said it's best to stay with family and friends during this time.
>>338105268
Still hoping it gets a bump up to real AA at some point. PS4.5 can't come soon enough
>>338104105
>Everyone dresses normally except for the leatherbound faggot squad
>>338094887
Just no. Not a single person has ever said that.
>>338105482
They are from a urban city based on Tokyo you retard. They wear tailored suits too.
>>338105656
Does everyone in Noctis' home city wear black boyband leather?
>>338105656
Don't ever talk to me or my wife's son again.
>>338105836
Noct doesn't seem the cuck type DESU, He may cuck women tho, I mean he is a prince after all.
>>338105751
Maybe not leather, but it looks to be most of the upper class at least wear black.
>>338104760
Mind explaining why ravage is excluded from 1:1 input then?
>>338107041
I dont know
>>338105751
Lucis royal circle all wear black
Also Noctis is wearing casual military base clothes
>>338104565
why?
>>338105751
Do you know what leather is? Leather is made from animal hide, not plants like cotton.
>>338104760
Ravage is a lot more 1:1 than Duscae tho
>>338103690
Why was that guy getting married if he was gong to die?
>>338105495
Do you actually think they look good? They're awful.
>>338094784
well, the fact that it was originally for ps3 and it looked like that probably would have looked pretty amazing for its time.
its a shame they are using a new graphics engine thats obviously not optimized at all for such a game which is why it runs like shit.
>>338099345
Even on PS3 it looks amazing to this day. I got bored of the game maybe 15 hours in back when it came out but I've been playing it again recently and I don't mind the literal walking simulator at all (though let's be honest, that is what it is so far).
However, that said Cutscenes are nice, story is decent enough, sound is incredible. Can't complain all too much.
