I should have bought Nvidia...
>>338086584j
I'm not supporting those Jews.
>>338086584
>cherrypicking the one game that uses OpenGL
wew lad, that's some reaching.
>>338086584
I should have waited until the Vulkan patch...
>>338086584
thank god i didn't fall for the amd meme
jesus fucking christ. the 390 is more expensive as well.
>>338087606
shill thread; albeit a bad one too
>>338088850
??jewvidia cuck
>>338086584
Not if you play at higher resolutions
>>338086584
Wut.
>Amd has 78 fps in the far right side.
>Aw lawd muh 12fps difference above 60fps.
>pick bad driver for same card and put it in the middle to make a point.
K
Can't wait for the Vulkan build so we can properly see AMD shine
Too bad no other dev will bother to dev for it tho
>>338090325
Vulkan is nvidia yo ufucking retard
dx12 is amd with its async shit
>>338090429
you're wrong
>>338089835
390x is more expensive though? Why?
>>338090429
Both are capable of async compute you dildo.
>>338089835
Not to mention that left and right are identical if you have a 60hz refresh rate monitor like most people.
>>338089835
>13.33% lower frames from AMD that costs more
>try to write this off as irrelevant
>>338086584
Is there a reason to buy an i7 yet?
>failing for Nvidia benchmark tests
>>338090429
Vulkan uses Mantle coding. And there is no "this one belongs to Nvidia, this one to AMD" stuff.
AMD simply benefits from low-level APIs(Dx12, Mantle, Vulkan) because they have much lower overhead. AMD's Dx11 driver has lots of overhead and their OpenGL support sucks, meanwhile Nvidia mastered Dx11, so in Dx11 Nvidia cards operate much better.
AMD just wants low level APi support, regardless of which one is it.
>>338086584
I get 144+ frames on my 980ti max settings, no blur
>>338090769
>>338090578
That's a 390 not the 390X, the 390 costs a bit more because it has more performance n general than a 970, especially in DX12
>>338086584
>buying an nvidia just to play Doom
Why would you do that?
>>338088509
you're retarded if you think that Nvidia isn't favored by every videogame company from now until the end of time
you're the bait
you're a bait human in a bait town that doesn't exist on any relevant plane
you're an aussie who should go work at the banana stand instead of posting on 4chan
>using nvidia-proprietary AA in gpu benchmarks
Vulkan may benefit AMD a lot. Perhaps more than Nvidia.
Doesn't doom also automatically change textures and shit to get a high framerate.
Jesus.
>>338090850
>Look, when I test a patch with new, graphics intensive features turned on the performance is worse than comparing against the old version without those graphics features
You're fucking retarded.
>>338094545
>Vulkan may benefit AMD a lot. Perhaps more than Nvidia.
Good joke. AMD doesn't care about Vulkan anymore, they've gone full Dx12 shill.
Vulkan release day, nvidia and Intel day one drivers. AMD? 3 weeks later.
kek at anyone that buys AMD
>>338094949
Tell me, anon, are you retarded irl?
>buy a "decent" range NoVidya card
>have to sell my left arm, right leg, liver, spleen, kidney, lung and testicles to black market dealers
>literally 90% of PCs library is pixel indieshit
JUST
>amd
>>338095649
I dunno. Got a 290 on sale for $199 almost 2 years ago and it runs like a champ.
I can't even find anything NOW that gives me similar performance for the price.
>>338090325
Vulkan is the same shit as OpenGL, it will run like crap on everything but the few games that will always be cherrypicked by Linuxfags.
If people had started working on DX12 in a timely fashion like the Dolphin devs instead of masturbating over Vulkan we'd already have all the benefits of it.
>>338096480
He's right though. Nvidia lost performance because of a few new features which were added to the game in that patch which were more demanding on the gpu. It also broke nvidias day one driver but all of this was patched like 5 days later.
>>338098854
AMD added features like FLEX and performance just went up
>>338090727
When will this meme end?
Radeoncuck here, how much longer until driver updates unfuck Doom?
>>338086584
But it's still over 60 FPS, and that's with the default Ultra settings. Who doesn't adjust the settings themselves? I always turn off stupid shit like motion blur and DoF.
>>338086584
But I get 90-100 fps on my 290x with an i5 2500k
>people ITT actually want AMD to fail so Intel can go back to charging $1500 for CPUs and Nvidia can start charging $900 for GPUs
>Be me
>Have GTX960 4gb
>Doom is running at 40-60 on fucking medium
I don't get it. I run Witcher 3 at high.
>>338100617
All of /v/ makes 120k a year
>>338100617
I don't want AMD to fail, I want them to stop making garbage CPUs and GPUs. Their single core performance on CPUs is a complete joke and I will never fall for the AMD FX meme ever again.
>>338094949
>>338098854
The godrays are known in FO4 for destroying frames.
Guess what they have that is a known Nvidia trick? Tesselation.
>>338100617
>intel charging $1500 for CPU's
Yeah, tell that to Cyrix tuff guy. It's not rocket science to produce cpu's or ic's, we're not in 1970's anymore.
>>338100617
They are charging what people will pay for them
Do you really think Nvidia and AMD, the ONLY TWO manufacturers of video cards, don't agree to price setting? There is no competition among them when they can artificially raise the price cooperatively.
>>338086584
>nividia pays off companies to optimize specifically for their cards and include a bunch of gameworks shit yet again
Why would anyone be suprised?
Beta: both used newest opengl in multiplayer, everything was fine
Full Release: amd gets stuck with older opengl and does worse, nvidia somehow gets to have newest opengl
How the fuck did this happen? Seriously.... someone had to had bribe them to fuck over amd like this. There's no excuse here to suddenly force amd to use the older opengl when newest one worked fine in the beta.
>>338101402
It's mostly down to AMD being on OpenGL 4.3 Vs 4.5 for nvidia, kind of surprising that the 390 does that good after some driver fixes
>>338087606
>literally lying on 4chan just to shill
Why?
>>338101685
for pic related
>>338086584
Doom reverts back to OpenGL 4.4 instead of 4.5 when it detects AMD gpu. payed for by Nvidia shekels.
>>338100796
Doom is optimized like shit on PC but people with 980s say it "runs great at 1080p".
People who buy high-end cards have no idea what they're paying for.
>>338100853
They annouced a few years ago they were taking a break from CPUs for a while that is why their CPUs have been especially shit for the past few years
>>338086584that frame of the imp has always be on my mind since polygon's playthough
>>338101887
>Nvidia gets massive lawsuit for false advertising
>they just pay it off and continue with these bullshit cut throat practices
HOW DO THEY KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT?
brb installing beta
>>338102015
simple and easy: AMD just isn't as good. They haven't made a card that undercuts the Nvidia equivalents since Nvidia fucked itself over with FERMI.
>>338102015
game studios have morals, only until they're payed enough shekels. then they don't give a shit about anything anymore
Why is the highest number green, the lowest number orange, and the number in between fucking red? What kind of scale is green-red-orange? Shouldn't it be green-orange-red?
>>338086584
theres no way thats for real.
>>338102357
But that is wrong. The 390 performs better or as well as the 970 and the only downside is more power consumption.
>>338102723
explain the OP then.
>>338102357
8 gigs vs 3.5
eat shit you housefire enabler
Who stoked for Polaris here
AMD strong
>>338102818
It's the j-jews. Fucking Nvidiots. FUCK YOU
>>338102868
Okay, so it's over twice the VRAm.
Why doesn't it perform as well?
>>338102818
It literally got fixed I don't see your point. It performs just as well as the 970 now
>>338102818
Explain Hitman and other AMD optimized games then. Both cards have games like this that favor them heavily.
>>338102913
Seeing how good the 1000 series looks, I'm hoping AMD has a good backup plan.
>>338086584
>amd card performs better
>lol nvidia sucks
>nvidia card performs better
>oh wow nvidia paying off companies again
>>338103008
Does the 980 run significantly worse in those?
>>338102818
Explain this
AMD already released new drivers that improved performance in doom but of course we're only going to be seeing these day 1 benchmarks.
>>338103162
>overclocked card with double the VRAM still doesn't perform as well as a 4gig card.
>>338103008
That has nothing to do with optimization of the game.
Nvidia cards just suck ass at DX12. They admit this.
Even consoles which use AMD run Doom at 60FPS
How do you fuck up that bad
>>338103357
That's a way to see it. I see as a $300 GPU getting basically the same performance as a $450 GPU
>>338103463
It runs alright with the beta driver, but the "hotfix" driver is pretty horrifying.
>>338086584
I wonder if 16.5.2.1 runs on par with nvidia if you force the tessellation to be lower
>>338102818
Yes, the 970 outperforming the 390 in one game changes everything and makes the 390's performance advantage in the vast majority of other games suddenly not count.
>>338104380
Most studies show the 390x performing worse than the best Nvidia cards despite nvidia using less power.
Just gonna wait for a 1070.
>>338104619
>Most studies show the 390x performing worse than the best Nvidia cards despite nvidia using less power.
How shocking. Next you'll be telling me about how the iPhone 6s is faster and more power efficient than the Galaxy SIII.
>>338103048
AMD has Vega with HBM2
>>338105394
Not Polaris?
>>338105450
Maybe GDDR5X with the 490/X
So my computer is like 7 years old at this point and I'm running on a 460.
Is the 1070 or the 1060 finally going to be worth it this time? I feel like I've been waiting for "the next generation or cards because this one is shit" for years.
>>338086584
>driver update more than doubles FPS
What the hell happened
>>338105450
Polaris isn't the flagship.
>>338105652
From the current tests, the 1070 is only about 80% as powerful as the 1080. For $380 or whatever, that's a great fucking price.
Especially considering the 1000 series has 8 gigs of VRAM. That's a little bit of future proofing.
I bought a 770 right before the 800 series came out and got fucked out of a 4 gig card.
>>338105652
Seems it. I'd wait for both sides to do a full rollout though so prices can stabilise.
>>338090727
Incorrect lol
>>338106236
If the base unit is 380 directly from Nvidia, isn't it gonna be cheaper from other manufacturers?
