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U mad?
>>338079282
U mad?
hell no, now i can run around and pull a whole map's worth of enemies right to the host and his 8 fucking yellow phantoms.
>>338079282
so i can kite all the mobs to you and your phantoms and have a big battle rumble? def mad.
>>338079416
Yeah, you wasted an orb and like 30 seconds of your life. Get ganked fgt.
>>338079282
I keep forgetting to go pick those things up.
>>338079416
no... I didn't want you there in the first place.
>>338079282
Looks like a wooden pussy
>>338079576
Unlimited use crystal vs you shitty seed you need to die to get a new one. Red eye orb is also unlimited.
Your the one loosing more time than me.
>>338079576
And you wasted your seed. L8r
>>338079282
pshh...
>>338079626
And i didint want to fight your monsters. My item is unlimited while yours is not.
>>338079282
b-bring it on!!!
Seeds are worth quite a bit more than a Cracked Red Eye Orb, but since you get the Red Eye Orb insanely early, it's literally no big deal.
Also,
>Using a Seed every time you get invaded like a pussy
You don't even know if I'm going to be annoying, yet.
And I mean,
>Walking around, no seed active
>Suddenly something attacks in my direction, turn about thinking host is about to dunk me
>It's a seeded mob
>Begin coralling mobs behind me to dump on Host
Yes, so smart.
>"lol its 3v1, there's no way we'll lose, let's go boys"
>r1r1r1r1r1r1
>parry + riposte host, phantoms still r1-ing like crazy despite me being in an invincible animation
>host dies
Gank squads' weakness is their overconfidence. They always assume because its 3v1 they're guaranteed to win, so they get careless. Take advantage of that, nail down the host and you're good.
>>338079282
>watchdog of Farron invades in ng+4
>He sits by the giant crab spamming welcome and my thanks
>Pop seed watch the crab grab and one shit him
It never felt so good seeds of a giant tree are GOAT fuck you faggots.
>>338079576
I wasted two unlimited use items?
>>338079282
Considering that a host can summon an endless army of phantoms to clear the stage for them its rather silly that FROM is going out of their way to enable literal baby mode.
>>338081275
It's for faggot invaders who want to hide behind everything fight like a man or don't invades. Also added for reasons like >>338081131
>>338079576
The salt flows freely in you I see.
>>338081379
Stages were designed to be beaten by a single player. Player + phantom should be able to handle invader + mobs if they aren't incompetent.
>>338081131
I had an invader think they were safe hiding among the jailers in the dungeon. I popped a seed and watch him crystal out after running for dear life.
>>338081606
You do realize you can be invaded without having a summon with you right? Also that doesn't change the fact. Let's use this as a example say a host has one phantom with him to help clear out after sully and do aldrich. If him and his summon are making their way threw the place and get invaded by an aldrich and the aldrich runs right down to where the two pontiff dogs are at the water resever whats going to happen? One of three things and anyway it ends it leads to bullshit for someone.
Option 1
Host and phantom try to fight the invader and dogs if another invader also all ready didn't come join.
Option 2
The host and summon say fuck this fag and contuine on with the level where that would leave the aldrich fag just as salty as being ganked. or Aldrich comes and fights them at a worse time later in the level
Option 3
The host pops the seed and lets the dumb ass get killed because he wanted to be a faggot
What option would you pick out of those three?
>>338081131
>not just runnin through the actual level to progress to crystal sage
its fuckin right there
>not runnin to the ladder to the swamp
you dont have to kill everything
>invading the area right after pontiff
>host and 2 phantoms just killed the drang fags
>park myself up with the snipers and get ready to rain hell on their ascent
>host sees me
>pops seed
>I get hit by 3 dragonslayer arrows almost instantaneously
>dead
Honestly I was laughing more than I was mad.
>>338082085
I wanted the embers in the area faggot if a watchdog or invader wants to be a fag I can too
>>338082246
so you can summon? heh
embers are so abundant. you could always invade too if you want embers, or help others instead of being a selfish little bitch
>>338081131
I won a 1v2 as invaded by running around a crab. You don't need a seed they'll get caught in the crabs shockwaves.
>>338082081
Firstly hosts with phantoms are prioritized. This is a good thing.
A host can cancel an invasion at any time by entering fog doors and homewarding out if playing solo. You do not have to do 100% area completion before beating the boss because you are need endless phantoms to carry you. And for that area in particular you can stun the dogs by smacking their face and leave them prone.
Aldrich Faithful area is a general clusterfuck made worse by the fact that blue phantom covenants are fucking broken.
Invaders are literally the only thing keeping a host from sitting back and having an endless army of phantoms clear the area for them.
>>338082389
What is selfish about minding my business solo picking up embers? I would of fought him if he wasn't sitting by the annoying crab. You're just starting to sound like a salty watchdog faggot
>>338082529
You can't homeward bone out just like you can't quit out without closing the program once an invasion is all ready starting to connect. also this whole phantom clear the game for you is bullshit. 95% of phantoms bring more problems then they actually solve.
>>338079576
>tfw get summoned every 15 seconds as Aldrich fuck boy anyway
Boy, that seed sure threw a wrench into my plans
>>338082731
This is wrong. Initiate a boss battle and invasion immediately ends. If you did not have phantoms constantly carrying you through the game you would know that homeward bone works during boss battles in solo play.
>invade in anor London
>host seeds, three phantoms
>follow them withbibscuring ring
>they go into the gator pit
>wait them out
>host coming up the ladder
>kick him down
Yeah, fucking mad.
>>338082570
why do you care so much about embers
play offline idiot if you care so much
>>338082529
If subhuman amoebas want to summon (mandated cheat) their way through the game they're entitled to. They're only screwing themselves.
>>338082857
that water area is fuckin cancer, they should fog wall it off during online
>>338082845
Yes a boss battle. You can't just homeward bone out of an invasion though. Homewarding bone in a boss fight is not the same as using a homeward bone to avoid an invasion you dumb motherfucker. Pick your words better you fucking pleb.
>>338082882
to give to people when I invade/get summoned as a mound maker. Gotta mix in the ember drops with dung pies faggot.
>>338079282
>Hunt gank squads
>This means 90% of the time its a gank squad
>Shit on them because noone knows how to fight
>curl up into a ball
Its the best feeling /v/
>tfw you invade a host, kill the NPCs on your way to them
>all those phantoms rolling desperately as I swing my +5 Smoug hammer around
>whenever I connect 1 hit, I can combo another
>everytime 2 hits someone dies
>1shot with R2 a fag trying to meme me with the memestoc
>kill his friends, he starts running and disconnects
I may be outnumbered, but never outmatched
>>338083025
>entering fog doors and homewarding out if playing solo.
What part of this is difficult to understand? That I need to actually explain the mechanic to you already implies that you are a pleb that relies on phantoms to carry you through the game.
>host pops seed
>slaughter every mob in the level
>throw self off a cliff
Eat shit scrubs
>>338082857
>invade
>already seeded
>host and his boyfriends fighting silver knights
>free aim a charm and running the faggots to death with cathedral knight greatsword while they panic
>invade in farron
>host and buddy aren't dumb, try to lead them to mobs but they're not biting
>pepper them with arrows all through the level, that get mad and follow me to tree faggit gank
>Same as above
>they get tired of dealing with me and run away
>Great club his summon while he's distracted
>host runs away
>annoyed at the thought of him summoning more but theme's the breaks
>camp out and wait for his boipussy
>HOST OF EMBERS DESTROYED out of nowhere
Sad
>>338079282
>host has 3 phantoms and seeds me
>run out of estus fighting them
>hang out next to the sleeping giant and throw a knife at him when the host comes in, killing everyone.
>>338079718
thats cause only pussies use them
Do alluring skulls work on enemies while invading?
>>338081272
>your life
>unlimited use item
I'm onto you, undead scum
>>338082985
>cancer
Explain.
>>338083729
>Host and his boyfriends
made me more chuckle than it should have
>>338083025
Your reading comprehension is shit.
He said
>entering fog doors and homewarding out if playing solo
not
>entering fog doors, and homewarding out if playing solo
Which means he is saying to do both. As in you have to do both, not that both are two separate things you can do.
Not really
>>338083093
>host thinks he's safe behind his man wall
>gets cocky, rushes me with them
>funnel them into the area before them mimic
>them greatsword horizontal swings
At the gates of fire, numbers count for nothing.
>Host and his butt buddy in the croc pit
>Fellow Aldritch Faithful joins and we start to slap them around
>Phantoms dies
>Host tries fighting us with hit and run tactics
>Host begins run tactics before finally disconnecting
Some people just can't take a beating.
>>338085862
Not even mad when that happens, bringing out the inner pussy of shitters is it's own reward.
>>338082510
I got invaded by a watchdog yesterday and he black cristalled out when I started backing away to avoid fighting him and a mob. What was his problem, did he think I was going to summon?
>mfw invaded by two more and winning
How do I deal with people baiting for a parry?
It just seems like a massive waiting game, how'd you punish it?
Anyone use the dragonslayer greataxe while invading?
>>338086993
Backstab them or kick them in the face
>>338087002
Hell yeah, that thing is amazing. Big dick ripostes with the hornet ring, and the R1s can't get parried when two handed.
>>338079282
i don't get why invaders are mad about the giant tree seed
i wish you had to buy it instead of getting it for free, but i just take it as my cue to black crystal
> Be Aldrich fuck
> Get hosts attention
> Spam block and dance around like an idiot, host copies me
> Little does he know my fellow Aldrich fuck is creeping up behind him
> Gangbang host fucking hard, we both do applause emote at the same time for extra saly
No because I cant rely on regular mobs to kill the host anyway. I prefer to push your shit in personally.
>>338086993
Throwing items, parry when they come in for a roll attack
>>338080169
did the next issue release yet?
>>338086993
Swing a heavy weapon two handed and watch their dumbasses die trying.
>mfw parry fag get themselves killed trying to parry my FUGS
So how do I "twink"? Heard about people staying low level but using endgame weapons. Are they beating the game as such or are their buddies dropping items for them?
>>338087861
both, you wouldn't believe the shit I've seen at the wall and in the settlement
>>338087861
Item transfers aren't overpowered, as you can't transfer anything that's been upgraded with titanite and you can't transfer titanite. I was given the full Ornstein set and weapon to help do my part in a Hannah and Montanna PVP cosplay, but the spear was actually kind of underpowered until I got it to +3
I feel like Twinks in this game are just high-level phantoms with upgraded shit helping low-level hosts, so you as a level 20 invader invade a level 20 host with a level 60 phantom
>>338087861
Both, but much more likely than not, they're having their but buddies dropping shit for them, I twink in the catacombs, and regularly run into people using nameless gear and shit like that.
Also for the OP, nothing pleases me more than a reactionary seed when I invade so I can scare off every titanite bug in the level before I black crystal out.
>Any invasion in irythil
>>338088003
A few days after launch, I invaded a seeded gank squad with Smough's armor. The things people do for laughs.
who /Gotthard Twinswords/ here?
>>338088283
Who /parry after every roll against a Gotthards user/ here?
>>338088283
I keep hearing about this weapon, what's good about it? I've beaten all but one of those I've fought who used it.
>>338088159
>I twink in the catacombs, and regularly run into people using nameless gear and shit like that
Happened to me as well, one of the guys was blocking the exit with a shield.
>>338079282
>get invaded after pontiff
>hasn't found me yet as Im climbing down the ladder
>invader cmes soon after and istead of fighting me runs over to one of the beast
>pop seed
>it fucking eats him
Felt so good. He lived that move but died to it soon after.
>>338088372
you fight scrubs, good for you.
>>338088436
Fast roll L1, abused by shitters so anyone with half a brain knows not to use it consistently or to ue the R1 to catch parry happy fags off balance. L1 attacks with both swords so it deal technically double its listed AR since both swords deal the same amount of damage. At 40/30 it's 355 AR is technically 710 when two handed because both swords hit. gr8 PvE weapon and decent PvP weapon.
>People still try to jump after you without realising you had spectre on.
I might be autistic for taking my time and doing shenanigans at the bridge to Wolnir, with people I invaded at the beginning of the cathacombs but it was worth it every time.
>>338088754
>710
Damn.
>>338079282
>get invaded by aldrich babby while fighting gator
>fight invader + gator anyway
>second aldrich babby comes
>okay time for plan B
>use glorious seed
>pull second gator
>win
>get my bonfire
what's the matter guys, can't PvE ?
trying to learn the brigand twindaggers
it's a painful learning experience but fun
>Guy invades in Dungeon.
>Use seed.
>Follow his health bar while I'm standing still as he runs around frantically losing health and regaining it.
>See him run past the hallway I'm standing in, to kill the last jailer.
>Gets branded and killed.
That shits hilarious.
>Untrue White Ring
>Slumbering Dragoncrest Ring
>Lingering Dragoncrest Ring+2
>Sage's Ring
>Heysel Pick +4 (RH)
>White Hair Talisman (LH: 2h)
>Hidden Body
>Sacred Flame
have fun
>>338089216
Carry on anon, I wanted to but fell in love with corvian greatknife.
>>338089289
31 vig
30 end, str and dex, 15 in faith and int, gonna try to get them to at least twenty each so I can use magic dickery as well, thoughts?
>>338082139
>not using obscuring ring+hidden body
There's your problem.
>>338090026
They don't stack, so you end up being completely visible on the host's side.
>>338089289
This is some fun shit, can confirm.
>Host gets every advantage in the book
>Host can spam rolls without consequence because rolls are nigh nonpunishable online
>Host can spam roll thanks to fast stamina regen
>Host can summon multiple phantoms without consequence
>Host is actually rewarded by ganking by getting an item that literally takes away the only advantage Invaders have
Brilliant design, certainly worth of the "A" team.
>>338090561
Nigga you don't understand.
>>338091002
I don't deny its usefulness for getting in range, but I like to swap it out for Sage's for that cast speed so that Sacred Flame doesn't take as long.
>>338090932
>rewarded by ganking by getting an item
You get Seeds 1/2 times every time an Invader kills you.
>>338079282
>host seeds catacombs
>rush to the boss fog and aggro all the skeletons before the bridge.
>break the bridge and begin kiting the endless army of skeletons.
>Run past host and its 2 summons swinging at me.
>watch as the wave of skeletons fucking roll over them.
seed is fun for the whole family!
>>338091149
Isn't it a percent chance when you get invaded?
>>338091460
Nope. It's on death while Invader present.
50%.
>no channeler's trident in the game
A missed opportunity, kiting buffed enemies as a seeded invader sounds fun.
>>338079282
No, you made me happy. I love kiting the worst things to you and your little gank squad all at once.
Not like you have the brain to take down even one person let alone the whole map on your ass as well. I consider it the host committing sudoku immediately.
What's the most boring invader you've had so far? In terms of how they fight
>>338092048
Rapier with Thunder buff versus me as a dedicated Smough cosplay.
>>338092048
The one that just kept trying to parry me. They eventually died, but it was a pretty boring fight.
>kill host
>phantoms proceed to attack you in a frenzy as if your death would change anything
>Play solo with dried finger and being on the way of cuck
>Blue Sentinel AND Darkmoon Blade shows up
Also you're guaranteed infinite seeds as you get a shit ton of invasions before dying, so a new one is guaranteed to spawn.
>>338092048
Some faggot on the highwall with two grass crest shields trying to be funny I guess. Charmed him and pushed his shit in so he ran, then came back with a washing pole.
>>338092230
They do get souls if they kill you fast enough.
>>338092048
Naked guy with flaming washing pole. He only did sprinting attacks and I couldn't parry because using a buckler with my large club would've pushed me over the limit
>>338092365
>can only carry five
>only one spaws each time
I fail to see the point.
>>338092743
You can't have extra seeds in your storage?
>>338092048
Some nerd that didn't show up for 30 minutes or so.
by the time we ran into each other I had already cleared the whole undead settlement looking for this guy.
>Shows up
>Two L2-R1 swings from my edgetana
>He dies
It was just sad after all that build up
>>338091149
You also get one for killing invaders
>>338088880
I could be mistaken but I believe the wiki says it's not actually x2 but it's close, like 160% weapon damage or some such. Still lots of damage.
>>338092836
Doesn't seem worth the time invement.
>>338079282
Why do you need that op? The 3 phantoms you scrambled to summon while sitting your pants the moment my invasion text showed isn't already enough?
>>338087861
Just keep your weapons at +6 or below, and keep boss weapons at +3 or below.
I twink in Farron Keep since I beat Pontiff, Aldrich, and Ocerios. I'm only level 33, but have tons of weapons at my disposal with rings and other bullshit. 15 faith and 15 int for some pyromancies, miracles and spells. 18 STR and 15 Dex +5 with the Milkring for weapons.
Still trying to get past THE CHAMP so I can finally get the hornet ring and actually start fucking up gank squads in Ithryll. The only bad thing is that it's a glass cannon build and I only have 600 health when embered. But I can buy plenty of items to give me an advantage.
Feels good being a purple.
I think the invasion requirements are a bit different for some reason.
>be in NG
>be at Undead settlement
>get invaded
>invaders tries to go for kill
>what he does know is I'm rocking the carthus curved sword, Prisoners chain, hornet ring, hunter ring to use sword without leveling up much, and ring of favor and protection +2 so have massive HP, thanks to friend dropping them for me
>parry and riposte his faggot ass
>runs behind fat bitch
>seed him
>fat bitch swings her mighty mace of justice and kills him
Jesus christ I forgot how much killing scrubs and invading is fun very early, especially if your friend gives you late game unupgraded but good weapons and +2 rings.
>>338092743
You use one and it only resets if you teleport to another bonfire (resting is fine), die or quit the game. Also you can have 600 or some other insanely high number on storage.
In short, as long as you get your first seed and use your dried finger, you're pretty much guaranteed to never run out of them, be it on a ganksquad or a way of blue to avoid being gangcucked in your own world. It's pretty fun to do some sort of battle royale with the invader and the mob instead of being a little bitch, too, which is what i do. Extra points for forest/Aldrich area so you get that juicy 2v3 with the mob as wild card, granted some people see the seed and insta BC away, not that i blame them, though, as in most case a seed means the most cancerous ganksquads.
>>338080750
No it's cause they're shit. r1 kings are just zombies who can't play the game.
>>338079282
And I'm gonna need you to shove this waaay up inside your butthole Morty
>>338080169
>Wrathful Sun Solaire
I can dig it, hope he's a dlc summon
>summoned into ganksquad
>his and two phantoms already banging some poor red schmuck
>he pops dried fingers as they finish
>another red invades
>they leave the host alone to go look for him
>use gundyr's weapon art to knock his ass off the wall he's on and plunge attack him
>phantoms get back in time to see me wave as I fade into the ether
Get fucked.
>>338089680
If you're going to use magic dickery, get 15 faith for tears of denial and 30 for persistant mercury, soul spear and twisted wall of light.
Pretty good build though.
20 and 20 will get you deep protection which is an amazing miracle.
Also, Farron Dart has a surprising amount of uses even though it's weak as fuck.
Then just use the scholar's candle stick and the magic rings and you're set. Sage ring is a must.
Let me see.
Yes.
Still mad.
>>338093606
that mercury spell is utter shit though
Only retards would stay in the cloud and the damage is awful
>>338091661
I'm positive you're wrong about this. I get them all the time and I almost never die to invaders. I'm reasonably sure there is a % chance it will spawn when you get invaded, regardless of who wins. I also want to say it seems to use the ds2 system of spawning which is to say 25% from first invasion, 50% from second, 75% from third, and guaranteed 100% by time you've been invaded 4 times in a row. I'm not sure about any of that but I am sure you don't need to die to get them.
>>338093348
>Jesus christ I forgot how much killing scrubs and invading is fun very early, especially if your friend gives you late game unupgraded but good weapons and +2 rings.
gee i wonder why it's fun for you considering you got a shitload of items earlier on when you're not intended to.
>>338093348
99% of grapes I've met just acted like different color reds
I'm in The Watchdogs of Farron Covenant in NG+3. What are the chances that i'll ever see another living being again?
>>338093941
im almost (but not completely) certain that ng+ has nothing to do with invasions or summons, just SL.
>>338094015
NGs are not separated, yes.
>>338093761
It is shit, but just like most of the spells and pyromancies you have to know when to use it.
I prefer to wait for them to run into some mobs, pop a hunter charm and cast it when they try to kill mobs.
>>338093852
I'm a grape and I just try to kill the host because majority of my invasions tend to be where the host has 2/3 phantoms guarding. I'll kill other phantoms if the host is alone though.
>>338093606
Alright, thanks,
>>338093776
You of all people should know, anon.
I'm a dickwraith.
How does Hidden Body work in pvp?
Do you actually become invisible to other players?
When you crystal out of a game, you earn points towards getting soft banned from invading or getting summoned right?
Can I give the divine London tome to Irina and not have her go dark? The description has me thinking otherwise.
>338087814
>faggot thinks he can set up a parry with a UGS stomp-attack
>mfw 41 Str and 31 Dex with BKUGS
>>338094231
No one has confirmed this, and who cares?
more mound-maker memes please
>>338087558
How heavy we talking? Right now I'm rocking a sick Flamberge
>>338079282
>watchdog of farron
>host seeds
>make friends with black knight and several crucified hallows
>Keep 2 Phantoms busy while black knight fucks over host
The funny thing is that they don't bother killing my new friends.
>>338094231
its just just a rumor, passed on by word of mouth. ignore it.
I black crystal out and I have yet to be softbanned
>buy the game
>5-10 hours in
>finally realize that half of the covenants are broken and From refuses to say a word about it
>just deal with it
>several dozen hours later
>suddenly all signs stop appearing, check the internet and it's some matchmaking bug and I'll NEVER see another sign until From patches it
Jesus Christ.
I wish I knew how bad this would be, the support is horrible and I wish I had a refund..
>>338094231
Why would you be softbanned for using an ingame item?
>>338094280
The Londor one is bad.
>>338094231
I read this on the wiki. It's why I always try to fight even if it's horrendously unfair. It's a good thing too because sometimes I manage to get the kill even when my first impulse is to just run away like a wee little girl. Always more fun to fight and lose than to run away with my pussy lips flapping in the wind.
>>338094280
If the description says anything about dark tales, dark miracles or weird forbidden shit...just don't.
>>338094218
Not exactly.
You just become harder to see.
If you use that with the obscuring ring, it makes you nearly invisible until you get relatively close to someone though.
>>338093852
Grape here, I either play hide and seek if they have phantoms or I charge in anyway knowing I'm going to die. I usually target sunlight faggots.
I'm playing a sorcerer and I just killed Oceiros, what do I do?
Moonlight greatsword or dragon breath?
>>338094467
Great hammers, great axes, and ultra-greatswords are said to be immune to parries when two-handed and performing normal attacks and most Weapons Art. There are exceptions though. I think running light attacks are vulnerable to parries as I had my Astora GS parried when I performed a running-2HR1. The Astora's Charge weapon art is confirmed to be vulnerable to parry.
>>338079282
No, because I'm now going to spend several minutes pulling aggro from all of the strongest mobs in the level, and leading a massive fucking crowd of them right to the host that's just waiting at the start of the level
>>338087235
Yes they can be parried. I've done it multiple times.
>>338094467
Ultra greatswords and great hammers/axes
>>338094858both suck
>>338094907
I thought you couldn't parry the great weapons' two handed R1s and R2s?
>>338094874
All rolling and running attacks can be parried except whips, which can't be parried at all
>>338094858
moonlight isnt THAT bad. it's viable.
>>338094858
What build? I have 10 Vigor and I can't seem to win.
>>338079416
>Put down my sign to help people with the boss
>Guy summons me
>He's sitting down
>Red phantom right behind him, bows for a duel
>Crystal out of there
I wish there was an arena so these faggots could have their fun already and leave me out of it. I like the invasion/summon mechanic but using it for fightclubs is the worst.
>>338094874
Speaking of this, why is the parry window for THE CHAMP hilariously long but the Dragon slayer armor is hellishly short?
>>338095006
You can't, no idea what he's on.
>>338094574
Because you're using it to be a faggot. You used an infinite use item to take a gamble and invade some faggot. Then when the host uses his finite use item you bleed from your cooch and black crystal out. That's gay and there should e repercussions for that. Black crystal should be used on occasions where you're getting le epic trelled or some connection issues occur.
Sorry your minmaxxed chaos katana build got negated by some guy being resourceful
>>338095006
>>338094907
You can't, anon is mistaken.
>>338094467
>>338094874
>>338094929
All rolling or running attacks are parriable with the sole exception fo whips, not a single whip attack can be parried.
Any single-handed weapon (except whip as stated) can be parried.
Every jumping attack is unparriable, too.
Great axes, great clubs, ultra greatswords have unparriable 2H R1s and R2s, great curved swords have only the 2H R2 as unparriable.
Then there's the mess of weapon arts, some are parriable, others aren't. If you want to fuck up parry-spammers just grab gotthardt's and spam the spin.
SL18 here with no reinforcements, it was hell but I got all my endgame stuff for twinking/babysitting purposes.
At Highwall of Lothric no one knows about the seed so I have no problems. Also feels good being the only Blade of Darkmoon I ever see at my summon range
>>338095042
When you say viable do you mean pvp, pve or both? I really don't care about pvp viability
>>338095180
>Sorry your minmaxxed chaos katana build got negated by some guy being resourceful
What the fuck are you sperging over? I just asked a regular question. Calm down there, ganker.
>>338093852
>>338094148
You do realize if you they invade they are just invaders that's it. You can't help them even if you wanted to. The only time you can do that is if your summoned to their world. Which no one does because it's stupid as fuck to do.
>>338095006
You can.
>>338095176
>>338095196
He said greatsword, not ultra greatsword.
>>338095006
i've parried R1 attacks, but i think R2 no matter what cant be parried.
or i could be mistaken, but i could have sworn i've parried two handed R1 attacks before.
>>338079282
>invade as aldritch
>kite giants and npc over to host
just makes it easier
>>338095257
everything is viable for pve if you're good enough
>>338095316
What? I thought I was talking about GREATaxes.
>>338095317
You might've parried the running/rolling attacks
>>338095338
Yeah but it's very disheartening to see my bkga being outdamaged by my dark sword
>>338095180
>repercussions
Host are already loaded out the ass with advantages, now you want to take BC too? Cry more.
>>338095316
I thought he was talking about great axes and yes greatsword is the exception to the unparriable "great" weapons
https://youtu.be/aLiCqsfzAZc
>>338095281
Actually you can help the host because you still get rewarded for killing x amount of phantoms.
>>338095447
well, if you're looking for stuff better than the dark sword, you're pretty SOL
Anyone else use the covenant fix via family share? Is it working for you?
>>338095272
I thought you were a faggot who spammed black crystal wherever his ebin invasion didn't go his way
>>338095484
So two handed greatsword attacks CAN be parried?
>>338083025
>Is that level of anger appropriate for this situation?
>>338095634
You really need to retake English comprehension, because I never mentioned doing any of that in my post.
>>338094231
I'm pretty sure you don't, or if you do, the buildup is either super low and degrades over time or it takes an astronomically high number of black crystals. I usually black crystal out during a gank if i run out of estus and can get away to do it. Haven't had to use the circlet of white yet and the host doesn't get any estus back from my death
>>338095484
Greatswords are really shitty currently.
Slow and about the same range (and damage too) as straight swords.
>>338095516
Magic damage in general seems wonky, I remember I could kill rats with an estoc in 2 or 3 hits, but the crystal rapier that supposedly does more thanks to its magic damage took so many more hits to kill
>>338095636
Yeah, just not the Ultra Greatswords regular R1s and R2s.
>invade
>make host use all his estus
>black crystal out
>>338095553
I had already done my ear farm before that became known but I'm considering doing it because my matchmaking died and it's an irreversible bug apparently.
Did I already say how much I wish I could refund this game despite liking it? Oh I did.
>>338095634
and you're a faggot who cries when invaders don't mindlessly run into your wall of phantoms
>>338079282
VERY
>it's a das pvp thread
>post the seed
>tons of underage blogposting about their fights
>mfw they think anyones interested in reading them
>mfw that is the most circlejerkiest part of 4chan that should always stay in /vg/
>seriously
>blogging about your success stories
>implying anyone cares
>2016
Souls fags can be cringy as hell
>>338095180
>Using any infused weapon
>When there's a shit ton of buffs and resins this time around
I'll never understand it.
>>338095254
>endgame SL 18
SL 33 here, stuck between the champ, dragonslayer armor and nameless king.
Can't decide what I want next.
I gotta ask how you got past Pontiff and Aldrich though. Had plenty of issues getting past them because only having 13 vigor.
>>338095447
why? because it's an outlier? the difference isn't night and day.
>>338095892
How is video game discussion underage blogposting? Why are you even in this thread? Why am I even replying to you?
>>338095476
I really don't understand this logic. You're the one invading, forcing your way into someones game to kill them and make them losing their embering. Why shouldn't hosts get an advantage? You're the one being an asshole. (I invade all the time so I'm an asshole too I just don't cry about it when someone uses seed)
>>338095476
No they're not. They have to worry about enemy mobs, as well as some invader whose sole point in being in the hosts world is to kill him. The invader more than gas a build specifically made to kill the host, while a normal host is probably just using a weapon and build made to deal with normal enemies.
Fucking invaderfags are just too dense. Can't reason with em why am I trying
>>338095487
Wrong thread?
>>338095180
>OH NO AN INVADER
>well good thing I have this giant seed
>w-wait, where are you going?
>THAT'S NOT FAIR
>I DIDN'T WANT YOU TO LEAVE
>I WANTED YOU TO DIIIIIIEEEEEE!!
>>338095781
split damage is really bad because of how damage is calculated. basically you get a double dipping of damage reduction, it'll compare your shitty 100 physical versus their 100 defense and then your shitty 100 magic versus their 100 magic defense instead of comparing 200 physical towards just the 100 physical defense, basically
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>>338095893
Parry Pontiff for the first half. Just equip buckler and parry his fire sword (blue sword can't be parried). Once he summons his stand, he becomes much less aggressive and you can fight him like a normal enemy
>>338095950
>discussion
I adore this copout, really.
>>338095745
I know this made me super sad, I really wanted to use the drake knight greatsword but it's garbage
>>338096102
How about the "Kill yourself" copout? Kill yourself.
>>338095893
you can summon blackhand and glitch him out to get past pontiff, and then you can bleed out aldrich with even a bandit dagger with carthus rouge
>>338095840
>invade in the catacombs
>lead the host and phantoms all through the area, into dead ends, traps and aggressive as fuck mobs.
>black crystal out
>>338095892
>projecting this hard
>>338095957
I don't care if they use seeds.
>>338096002
Shit ton more Estes than you
Infinite phantoms
Seeds
Magic
Items
More health
Need me to wipe your ass too?
>>338095893
Aldrich? Grass Crest Shield+Cholranthy Ring with the Hollowslayer (no reinforcements). It's all about the rolls
Pontiff? Hollowslayer again, but use the Target Shield for parries (dagger wont cut it) 2nd phase only attack the ghost and only attack Pontiff when he's summoning another ghost. Otherwise, use the Swordmaster glitch on Gotthard. I also did a SL33 run myself, have fun at Cleansing Temple my friend.
Bandit Knife+Rouge didn't work for me, because I would miss a couple swipes every so often at Aldrich's wonky hitboxes, best of luck.
>>338096254
Oh, and they can always disconnect and lag switch like the bitches they are.
>>338096254
>magic
wut?
>>338095957
>Why shouldn't Hosts get an advantage
They have every advantage, the only disadvantage to embering is the possibility of getting invaded at all
>>338096027
>Oh no an invader
>He's got a pretty OP sword with fire, from the looks of it
>Welp, better take this death since he'll just backstab fish or run away into a pack of enemies
>>338096082
>Ince he summons his stand, he becomes much less aggressive
>stand
Angry leprechaun detected
>>338096112
The one that has triple split damage?
Ouch, it's even worse because of that.
>>338095892
>seedfags get BTFO
>"n-nobody cares!!"
then we have your greentext story that's twice as long as it needs to be
>>338096328
katana works for aldrich as well, if you happen to have the dex/don't mind respecing later
>Grape
>Summoned to the world of some fag in Catacombs
>He's taking the shortcut, I spawned in the 2nd hall and popped the Bone Ball
>Right as he rolls down onto the final platform, the ball casually flies by and knocks him off into the pit
>Receive my shackle
Sometimes, this game has dumb moments.
>Summoned by Guts to Grand Archives
>I play nice, cause I prefer to play the role of the helpful Grape until shit turns sour
>He has a 2nd Grape ally, also playing nice
>Get invaded right after the dark room
>I turn on host, but other Grape doesn't
>Sparring match between Red and other Grape, me and Host
>He fucking sucks worse than me and I'm awful
>Can get him to half consistently
>Other Grape dies and Red jumps down staircase and gets a falling attack on host
>He was using a bleed weapon, so after a number of hits with a Great Corvian Scythe, Host pops like a fucking balloon
>Summoned to his world again later
>He's not taking my shit, has a white and a sun this time
>Pretend to disappear (sit on the ladder) until he passes
>Nab the white
>Nab the Sun while they're fighting Sage
>Do nothing as he dies to Sage from afar
>>338095957
>forcing
>you don't choose who you invade
Invasion goes all the way to Demon's, why the hell you crying?
>>338095892
>"blogposting is bad guys, right? RIGHT? WE don't like blogposting right?"
Fucking tool
>all those twinsword roll L1 spammers
As bad as parry fishers. Faggots.
>>338096357
terrible is terrible 1v1, but magic is really good 3v1 since the caster can just stand back and turret
>>338096328
>>338096184
>>338096082
Thanks for the tips,
but I already got past Pontiff and Aldrich.
I just wanted to see what you did in comparison.
Might have to try out the hollow slayer sword though.
>>338093509
>summon
>Not batshit insane invader.
get outta hereeee
>>338096567
>>338096482
>>338096245
>>338096143
>>338096059
Thanks guys. It really helps me out when you guys just rush up and confirm that you hate getting called out on your cringe shit.
Split damage weapons need a buff
Ultra weapons need a buff
>>338096601
Hollowslayer does great damage with no reinforcements, despite being unable to be infused. It's my go to for greatswords, it's two-hand R1's do it much more justice than the rest of the greatswords.
>Lvl 70
>invading with Anri's straight sword
>600 AR on an R1 machine gun
>they see that tiny chunk of metal and rush me
>swush swush 2 of them are already at 10%hp
gank squads! keep em coming
>>338095840
>black crystal out
No, that's when you just go hide somewhere until they die of natural causes
>>338088372
I've been parried like, once with my GOAThard twinblades in a hundred invasions. I got parried all the time with my straight swords, GS and hammers.
>>338096358
What's your point? Hosts should have an overwhelming advantage since they're the only ones risking anything. Host dies and he loses his progress, ember, and possibly his souls if he gets killed trying to retrieve them. Invaders lose nothing.
>>338096785
How much Luck you rocking?
How about if you black crystal out of an invasion, you lose an ember or a rank from your covenant, and if you use a seed, you don't get Souls or an estus refill when the invader dies? That way both forms if faggotry have downsides to them
>>338096481
Yeah I just think the drake knights are neeto but they're armor is super heavy and gives less poise than alva and their greatsword is tiny and has split damage. Oh well.
>>338096824
>This again
I understand your point, but invaders ALSO lose all their souls at the location of death. Which, while not a major problem, is still technically something.
Not him btw.
>>338096717
yeah little old you sure showed all of us :^)
>>338096869
>Black crystalling out losing you an entire covenant rank
That's fucking retarded given some situations like hackers and laggy hosts.
And the Seed change is so fucking minor no host would even notice.
>Lose an ember if you crystal
Also retarded, you could just invade with all your embers in storage.
>>338096824
>Progress
There's about 100 feet between any two bonfires/shortcut to a bonfire
>Souls
Noone with a brain carries any significant numbers of souls, and the invaders lose their souls as well, if you want to make that argument
They use an ember just to risk the ember itself
>>338096540
It's still a dickish thing to do, and I'm not crying, I'm trying to understand why invaders cry about hosts having an advantage when they're the aggressors. (I'm not against invasion, I love to invade and get invaded. PvP is fun as hell)
>>338097003
Yeah, it was easy. Next time, take the blogposting to imgur/reddit. You'll actually get something called 'points' for that intsead of just bloating up threads with meaningless gloating that don't even serve as memes.
>>338096824
>hosts already have all the advantages
>THEY SHOULD HAVE MORE! I NEED TO BE OVEREHELMING REEEEEEE!
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>>338096863
40 luck + Human Pine Resin + Sunlight straight sword buff
>>338096747
Yeah I agree.
The gargoyle flame weapons do a decent amount of damage compared to other stuff.
Same with Heysel's pick.
I'd love to use that thing on a sorcery build.
>>338096869
Ember is easy enough to get this time around and once you get the reward for the covenant rank there's nothing else that's important.
>>338095553
I used it yesterday, was working pretty well for a while.
>>338096869
>lose an ember for black crystaling out
I'd rather not encourage the hide and seek meta, especially with the number of spots where you can clip into the environment and be unfindable
>>338097119
I didn't mean rank. I meant like using up a pale tongue or something. And as far as embers. Make it so that you can't invade unless you're kindled
>invade in Anor Londo
>run into a 3 on 1 gank as usual
>they put the lift down so I can't go down there
>pull that shit anyway
>manage to get onto the rotating staircase and ride it down while all of them are swinging like mad
>host pops giant seed
>easily run past the knights
>gankers have to fight them
>let dank sword host get close
>turn around and parry him
Just a couple invasions like that, but I've trolled many gankers using the staircase. Sometimes I'll chill out with an obscuring ring by Yorshka while they ride the staircase up and down searching for me, killing all the enemies in their path, then sneak up while they're busy with a new invader, and kill the host.
>>338096948
Poise is useless.
It literally does nothing, it's turned off.
And From doesn't say a word about it.
>>338097379
>blogposting
Yikes
>>338097235
Jesus fuck, that sounds delicious.
>>338097152
Would you consider it a dickish thing if you were at an arcade playing street fighter and some guy decided to fight against you and won? Invasions are just part of the game, an avoidable part even.
>>338097457
butthurt ganker spotted.
>>338097152
No one is crying about the host advantage, more disbelieving they still want more when the deck is already so stacked in their favor, there's zero reason for them to complain. You can't even twink anymore for duck's sake. I bet these are all new players complaining, no seasoned souls vet would give a shit.
>>338096869
why should black crystalling out be punished in the first place? to make the seeds viable? just use the seed when the invader tries to run to mobs to heal
>>338096954
I never invade with any significant amount of souls on me.
>>338097147
yes there are lots of bonefires everywhere but some people are just bad and playing this game is a real struggle. Getting invaded and killed after struggling through half a level is a bummer I would imagine.
Also I carry 7 million souls on my main so I don't out level my friend. I just equip a ring of sacrifice if I drop them.
>arrived at Grand Archives for the first time
>hit the crystal sage till he runs away
>get invaded
>pop seed and use chameleon
>red phantom kill everything for me (lizards,crystal sage,etc)
>he dies
>>338097235
How does human pine resin factor in that? Can you use rusted and gold coins to boost your damage?
>>338097613
I'm not sure how to spend 7 million souls, but you are an extreme outlier
