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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6rWlNbDIEU

Is street fighter 5 already dead?
Will EVO be able to save it?
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>>338041863
>Is street fighter 5 already dead?
No
Considering the SF5 wasn't even top 8 yet and the chanting was for Melee grand finals they don't compare.
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>>338041863
delet this
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>tfw melee will never die
Just stop fighting it, /v/. Become a part of the greatest game of all time.
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>>338041863
Only niggers and degenerates playing fighting games. so, yes.
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>>338042332
name 5 black top 50 melee players
name 5 black top 50 street fighter players
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Melee will always be the cancer of the FGC. Nothing to be done about it.
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>>338042157
But what if i moved already on to the graphically superior smash 4? what if i want online smashing? And what about Lucina?
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fuck smashbabbies is my thoughts
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>>338042038
Yeah, this is an important point, but it is true that SF grand finals don't tend to get that level of noise. In general Smash fans are louder. That doesn't really say anything about how active the game is competitively. The fact that it's breaking entrance records at majors would indicate that even if it hasn't sold as much as Capcom hoped it's doing fine as a competitive game.

>>338043729
Quit being jealous, buddy. Even your FGC players in that video were turning to watch what was happening in Melee and nodding in approval. SF players have moved on and accepted that Melee is a serious competitive game, get with the times.
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>>338043729
>>338043901
>skullgirl fans
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an unwanted rushed sequel with sony exclusivity that tried to appeal to the niche FGC that will only play it so long as the money lasts

SFV was dead on arrival. Its bad and was rejected by almost all except the FGC because sony is paying them to play it
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>>338042452
Snake Eyes, Dieminion, Problem X, Kbrad, Mike "Miguel Rossington" Ross.

Melee's a ton of white boys though, and Hungrybox.
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>>338043830
Then have fun playing it if it's your choice but don't try to pretend it isn't inferior to Melee for competition.
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>>338044168
i dont even own skullgirls
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>>338044242
You forgot lowtier god


___________________I'm serious
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>>338044514
Should probably slide in Smug before him.
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>>338044672
>that ugly hammerhead drone

get that ass banned
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>>338044514
>smug
>tampa bison
>ryan hart
>that nigger who smashed his joystick vs rico suave

dude, that lowtierfaggot isn't worth remembering
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>>338041863
Street Fighter V was a stillborn preemie.
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Dunno bro, I play everyday and still have fun. I don't see that changing anytime soon.
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>>338044996
Like him or not he was one of the best in the country in SF4.

Pretty shit at SF5 so far but he might just need some time to adjust.
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>>338042452
I think i can do this.
>Shroomed
>Axe
no, axe is philippino..
ee
>Home made waffles
? is he top 50? i think he is, is he? Fuck. Lets just say he is.
>Professor pro
>shiz
no, it's 2016.
There really are no 5 black people in the top 50. All white bois, asians and latinos.
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SFV should die for good tbqh. Boring af to play and watch.
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>>338041863
it's not SFV's fault it had to compete with the best competitive game ever created
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Dreamhack isn't even a big event for SF lol

As far as fighters are concerned it's pretty much a Smash major. It's like saying SF BTFO LMAOOO because the Smash crowd was louder at Apex. No shit.
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>>338045346
Touche. But still, it's fucking street fighter.
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>>338045197
t. 500LP shitter
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Funny how faggot Janitors let Nintendrones shitpost as they pleae but delete the slightest anti-amiibo posts. Fuck this board.
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>>338044996
The salt is real.

Even then, Mister Crimson, Sonic Fox if he bothers to and freakin Wolfkrone would be higher.
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>>338044126
They were turning to see what the screaming was about
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>>338045530
nintendrones play smash 4, melee is the patrician choice that anyone can enjoy
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>>338045346
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why is SFV "pro" lingo so juvenile? It's embarrassing to listen to people commenting the matches because it feels like some autistic 10 year old talking about his chicken nuggets.
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>>338044126
Melee will never be taken seriously. Stop living in dreamland.
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>>338045180
KJH, djnintendo, the moon, kels, prof pro, shroomed.

I had to look them up though since only shroomed really sticks out and pro is especially notable for PM.
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>>338045619
What?
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>>338045667
melee has been taken seriously since like 2013
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8 frame kun didnt show up yet?
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>>338044242
Mike Ross is a commentator and talk show host now, at least say someone like wolkrone
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Want to hear a joke?
American fighting game scene.
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>>338042452
Snakeyes, Problem X, Dieminion, Kbrad, Flashmetroid
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>>338045593
It's the same kiddie shit intended for kids. Stop shitpost you fucking Nintendrones. Smash will never be more than a party game that caught on due to autist manchildren being unable to move the fuck on.
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>>338045619
You're in a Smash thread talking about how embarrassing FGC lingo is when Smash lingo is in all cases 10 times more retarded.
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What is happening here?
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>>338045593
Honestly this.
Not saying melee fans arent nintendo fans, of course we are, but we fall into the category of
''The biggest nintendo haters, are former nintendo fans''
So yeah, we love nintendo, we hate modern nintendo, like the vast majority of people who play video games.
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>>338045713
if some people take it seriously, it does not make it a fighting game.
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>>338045792
>
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>>338045852
well looks like this party game is more technically advanced and popular with the crowds than the biggest "fighting game" of 2016 :^)
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>>338045895
this, lets just go back to 4.
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>dead
>most entrants at EVO
Don't get me wrong, it's definitely a shit game right now, because the stupid character release schedule was the stupidest idea ever, but Capcom wanted to rush the game out.
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>>338045794
>Not liking ramen noodles
>Not liking slobber knacker
>Not liking Hax Dash
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>>338041863
What's suppose to be happening in the video? Smashfags getting hype how is that the end of SFV?
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>>338045852
>it will never be taken seriously!
>turns out it actually is taken seriously for years
>W-well it's still not a fighting game!

Call it whatever you want, it is far more technically demanding than any traditional fighter being played competitively right now. That is an objective fact and all you can do about it is rage and cry like a child.
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>>338046012
the point of the video is that no one in the venue gives a shit about SFV and everyone in the crowd is watching melee

in SFV's defense, dreamhack is probably more known for smash
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>>338045962
so the whole F&PGC plays shit.
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>>338041863

>all those autists screaming to pretend they're having fun
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>>338045973
ERyu and Elena all day erryday.
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>>338044192
Thread should have ended here, desu.

/thread
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>>338045993
it honestly has more attendees than melee and TR4SH ?
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>>338046083
That was smash grand finals though and it wasn't even top 8 in SFV though. Comparing mid day pools to grand finals is retarded because for mid day pools there is more then one stream up and people playing at more then one spot.
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>>338046130
this, why do nintenyearold man babies spend all this money to go out to these events and pretend to enjoy themselves? you can tell just by listening to them they're only doing it because of peer pressure, they're bored to tears by watching a game that's older than they are
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>>338045794
Not sure why neo/v/ pretend so hard "fox only final destination" retards are suddenly respectable gaming gods.
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So when are they announcing the next DLC character? they haven't had a blog update since the Guile release.
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>>338046132
Better than nash and ryu all day
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>>338042452
THIS IS LOW...
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>>338046130
>>338046259
>FGC tryhard crybabbies have so run out of arguments that they now insist Melee fans are only pretending to have fun

This is what desperation looks like
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>>338046232
More than both put together, currently. At least 4k for SF5, Melee and SSB4 are nearing 2k each I think.
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>>338045993
>because the stupid character release schedule was the stupidest idea ever,
But it has kept the game getting attention for months, which likely has helped the game keep selling over time according to vgchartz at least which shows it selling more in april than at launch
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>>338045895
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>>338046264
fox didn't win a major until the game had been out for 12 years and has constantly had his position at the top questioned throughout the entire lifespan of the game

final destination isn't even the most common stage and is considered a bad stage for fox in several important matchups

what a shit meme
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>>338046416
>tryhard
go back to gamefaqs
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>>338046416
dude he is clearly baiting.
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>>338046083
Grand Finales vs Top 32 or 16.

Also SFV gets more views
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>>338046416

I wish l could hold on to a 15 year old game because l can't git gud at anything else. =(
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>>338046527
>SFV gets more views
SFV also just came out
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>>338046479
>I-I was only pretending to be retarded!
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>>338046437
thats impressive. I think that's an all time record.
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>>338046596
Doesn't change it is bigger, and even if half the player base fuck off it would still be bigger than other fighting games
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>>338045713
By autists maybe
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>>338046393
TIER
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>>338046470
>b.b.but muh gods
yeah, point literally proven. Fucking slaves I swear.
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>>338045508
can someone explain this "t." thing. i tried searching it but nothing relevant comes up. This shit comes out of no where.
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>>338046819
did you respond to the wrong post?
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>>338046538
It takes 2 years of consistent playing, attending Locals, match analysis and shit like that before you can be considered Acceptable. The skill ceiling in melee is easily the hardest one when it comes to fighting games.
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>>338046076
You want technically demanding, you go starcraft.
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>>338046830
it's a finnish meme

think of it like "regards, ___"
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>>338045993
Did Capcom want to rush it out or Sony?
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>>338046830
t. is an abbreviation of the Finnish word "terveiset" which means "regards," so it means the post they're replying to is "signed" by an unfavorable steretoype. It started on /int/ and made its way to /pol/.
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>>338046830
t. the newest of fags
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>>338046937
melee has more APMs than starcraft on a good day

melee also has the advantage of not being dead
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>>338046384
It really isn't. Time outs and HEALING are never fun, builds a good heel though. Sako, Xiaohai and Daigo are the only interesting Eryu's to watch.

>Karin and Necalli dominating,
>Momochi's Ken just beat Infiltration at Crash, while 2/3rds of the Trinity have won majors
>A different Mika player every top 8
>JWong and Snake Eyes picking up Alex
>Cammy, Chun, Laura, Bison and Vega all have a decent crew of top players repping them.

Don't see an issue, especially as the roster continues to grow.
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>>338046770
GOD
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>>338046967
I'm finnish and, confirm that it mean regards, but still do not get it.
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>>338043830
>what if i want online smashing?
https://www.smashladder.com/guides/view/25jx/melee/melee-netplay-guide

>what about Lucina?
pic related
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>>338042452
>5 black top 50 melee players
DaJuan Energy McDaniel
DaJuan Energy McDaniel
DaJuan Energy McDaniel
DaJuan Energy McDaniel
DaJuan Energy McDaniel
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Why are melee fans so autistic? Is this what happens when you grow up with a GameCube?
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I hear the same type of yelling from Marvel tournaments when all that's happening is a guy is getting hit in the air with the same move 20 times.

What the fuck is so exiting?
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>>338043830
Who cares about graphics if the gameplay is shit? Also, Melee has a better art style IMHO.
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>>338046130
Learn the game and then try not to freak out at that moonwalk up air.
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>>338047363

Probably loops that abuse the TAC. Very frame specific.
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>>338047363
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzXEopEXx58

feel the magic m8.
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>>338047363
melee actually requires you to make a shitton of inputs while reacting to your opponents DI and SDI during your combo, as opposed to marvel where you pretty much get one hit and get a guaranteed kill combo every time

why does anyone like marvel
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Why does everyone hate IV?
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>>338047576
marvels on the same level as melee desu
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>>338045973
No. Let's go back to 3rd Strike.
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>>338047606
I don't
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>>338047352
They have dug themselves so deep now they can't go back. Even if someone made a new smashlike game which has all the things they wanted none of them would care cause it isn't melee
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>>338047064
>Nash has won literally every major
>The game is literally Nash, Ryu and Chun

Meanwhile Elena has won pretty much nothing.
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>>338047606
just tired of it
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>>338047576
You just assume that most people in a fighting game thread have no idea about smash terminology. So i have no idea what the hell a DI and SDI is.
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>>338041863
So this is why SF friends get so mad about Melee. They are literally getting cukked.
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>>338047751
directional influence and smash directional influence

two ways you can manipulate the way your character is sent back when you're hit.
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>>338047705
>>Nash has won literally every major
that isn't even true for every CPT event
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>>338047892
So.... deep...... whoah
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>>338047425
>Who cares about graphics
The vast majority of gamers.
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>>338047964
nice shitpost
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>>338047606
Most people in the FGC never really liked 4. It's not extremely hated though. It felt too slow and the ultra/fadc mechanic turned alot of people off. Even nuki and daigo remarked how sf4 seemed boring, that's why nuki stopped playing until SF5 came out. Aside from the shitty frame work, SF5 is a faster game.
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>>338047964
it actually is way too deep than it needs to be. you can research it for 5 hours and that wont cover everything.
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>>338047751
When you get hit, you can input a direction on either or both sticks to slightly change the angle of your knockback. That's (D)irectional (I)nfluence.

During hitlag, you can move your character short distances by mashing the sticks in that direction. That's (S)mash DI.

Hitlag refers to the "freeze frames" that happen when a strong move connects. Hitlag widely varies between moves.
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>>338047546
This feels like it was a golden age now that we are in the dark times of hungrybox.
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>>338047884

Nice meme.
SFV has more viewers so l don't understand the relevance of your meme spouting.
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Say it with me everyone

>STINKY DAY!
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>>338047751
Pic related is regular DI which lets you tilt your trajectory relative to the calculated default, smash DI (which is almost completely unnoticeable most of the time) lets you make a minor linear movement during hitfreeze frames.
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http://supersmashbros.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Terms

7 pages of this shit
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>>338048381
Only because they have pages for shit like Down Special and Invincibility Frame.
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Capcom should make a Melee-eske game with proper support, balance and with the same skill ceiling. It's clear that Nintendo abandoned all the Melee players. Capcom should capitalize that.

>>338048175
Just kidding m8. Relax.
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>>338047691
That's really not true at all. When Brawl came out everyone was expecting to move on to it and was really excited about it. They went back to Melee because it was shit, and Sm4sh while a small improvement still had most of what made Brawl so boring for Melee players.

If a truly great new Smash game came out in the spirit of Melee a lot of those players probably would move on, but there's almost no chance of that ever happening.
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>>338048381
>a fucking victory pose explained
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>>338048601
>Just kidding m8. Relax.

Oh okay. l'm sorry, anon.
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>>338048601
Are you kidding about being a namefag because you should definitely stop that
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>>338048601
>Capcom should make a Melee-eske game with proper support, balance and with the same skill ceiling. It's clear that Nintendo abandoned all the Melee players. Capcom should capitalize that.
This is actually a pretty neat idea.
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>>338046685
capcom cant do netherrealm numbers
even if FGC disowns their games MK and Injustice moved big while street fighter couldnt make 2 million
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>>338048601
>Capcom should make a Melee-eske game
No thanks, id rather an actual fighting game rather than some super dumbed down baby masher shit made for kids
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>>338048632
Then why has it never been done?

Cause any time anyone has made a smashlike game or tries to kickstart one it gets fuck all support
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>>338047705
>One godlike player means the character is omnipresent
>Only premier events are majors

How many other Nash players you see in Top 8? NuckleDu, who may be switching to Guile, and...? How can you even cite Chun as top when she has a terrible top 8 record right now? She's obviously good, but has she actually won anything? Justin's won Dreamhack, Northwest Majors and that tournament in Italy with his Karin. Haitani just won at Battle Arena with Necalli. Like i mentioned in that post Ken and Chris T won Texas Showdown and West Coast Warzone respectively with their Kens and Momochi BEAT Infiltration at Crash. Problem X won a major in Europe with his Bison, as did Phenom, and even Laura's won Winter Clash.

Elena did plenty fine in Ultra too, don't you worry. Carried Gamerbee to Grand Finals at the biggest ever SFIV tournament and won Xian a shit ton of majors last year including Dreamhack which was a premier where he bodied Europe and their EVO champion. Not to mention Justin was pretty bad in IV by Ultra, but thanks to Elena he lamed his way back into Capcom Cup.
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>>338048601
>eske
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>>338048934
SF4 outsold both MK9 and MKX
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>>338048975
Because there's never been one nearly on Melee's level. The closest is Rivals of Aether, but that is a game made by a tiny indie developer with retro 2D graphics. It doesn't have the marketing ability to reach out and get the kind of player base a major fighting game can.
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>>338049054
>captainfalcongetsreadytoedgeguardfox.webm
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>fgcucks getting triggered because another game is more hype and fun
salty much
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>>338049129
kek
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Oh this is rich

http://supersmashbros.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Unofficial_lingo?display=exhibition&sort=mostvisited

also
>Sex Kick
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>>338049123
>Because there's never been one nearly on Melee's level
> It doesn't have the marketing ability
So >>338047691
>none of them would care cause it isn't melee

Look at other fighting game players, they'll move from GG to SF and maybe try Tekken. Meleefags only want melee
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>>338048852
I just came from the /g/ SQT and i needed the name.

>>338048749
Oh no, fuck YOU

>>338048968
Nobody is forcing you to play my friend. I play both kinds of games and i could enjoy more variety.

>super dumbed down baby masher shit

Everybody knows Melee isn't a "fighting game", but now you're just spouting dumb things. That shit has a high skill celling with a lot of different tech to learn. It can be played like a party game, yes. But competitively is a whole different thing.

>>338049054
I'm just learning english mate, and i have seen people using that term to compare stuff. Is it wrong?
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>>338048934

Even if your shitpost was true, sales don't exactly equal quality. Why do you think said Netherrealm fighters get abandoned so fast while other fightans such as Street Fighter continue to thrive? Why l ask you?
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>>338049407
maybe because melee is really really good and other fighting games don't have developers who actively hate their fans and do everything they can to avoid giving them what they want
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>>338049473
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/-esque
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>>338049492
because capcom and the fgc puts money up on those where the same circle of people trade wins and make money matches which is the only reason the fgc sticks around
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>>338049473
>Oh no, fuck YOU

Relax, m8.
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>>338049597
>tfw mashpotato "have you ever made a game" sakurai will never make a game like melee again because he's afraid of little timmy getting wrecked by a tourneyfag
feels bad man
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>>338046931
Fuck off
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>>338049473
>melee
>high skill celling
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
MY SIDES!
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>>338049407
You're describing players of a smaller game moving up to a bigger one with bigger brand recognition and marketing. Why would Melee players switch to a tiny game when they've already got Melee?

SF4 plays switched to SF5 because it was the new SF game with all of Capcom's support behind it. That's what makes the switch happen.
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>>338048193
Ahahahaha
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>>338049407
It's because of how fundamentally different from everything else Melee is even within its own series.
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So we should be getting the new DLC character next week sometime since they usually update on a Wednesday or Thursday
Can't wait to beat down scrubs online with my waifu
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>>338050084
uninformed shitposting is my favourite meme
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>>338050127
are you saying that people won't change what fighting game they play because of things like brand recognition?

What?
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>>338050127
Nope cause as I explained
>Look at other fighting game players, they'll move from GG to SF and maybe try Tekken

And there is a great example of this using SF like you did. A lot of people didn't like SF3, so they went and played other games instead of just sticking with a load of old stuff they already ha played for years. Sure they could have stuck with them and got blood out of a stone but instead they tried new things. Meleefags don't want to try new things and see different franchises grow though, they just want melee

>>338050301
So what you are saying is,>>338047691
>none of them would care cause it isn't melee
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>>338041863
not dead but it just gets old. new players and audiences havent come up and the generation remains unchanged. nintendo games on the other hand are basically for kids so can easily get newfags compared to fighting games.
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>>338050491
I'm saying that the only thing that is going to make Melee players move to a new game is A) it's a game that is as good and competitive as Melee and B) it's a game with the kind of mass appeal and marketing as a competitive game to get a sufficiently large player base involved.
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>>338050727

You underestimate the Melee fanbase. They're all just autists who refuse to adapt and leave their hugbox.
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>>338050398
Enjoy waiting till August.

But seriously, it's weird that they have not teased anything about the new character. Some poster on the Steam forums said there would be news today, but no source other than his ass was given.

Capcom has been awful at generating hype for this game. I hope it's due to the fact that they're busy fixing online, but that's probably just wishful thinking.
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>>338049607
thanks

>>338049720
I'm kidding again, anon.

>>338050084
I play both games anon. Believe me, i know.
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>>338050596
>A lot of people didn't like SF3, so they went and played other games instead of just sticking with a load of old stuff they already ha played for years.

Yeah, because there were a lot of other fighting games like Street Fighter that were of roughly equal quality, and generally very similar, that if they didn't like 3S they could play something else that was new and still like ST or Alpha or whatever.

The point is that there is nothing new since Melee came out that is truly like Melee and nothing nearly as good as Melee. The game has been played for 15 years because it is was a freak accident. It's unique in the history of video games.
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>>338050886
>I'm kidding again, anon.

Got me again. Stop playing with my feelings, anon.
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>>338050727
>A)
But good smash style games have been made, but it isn't melee so no one cares

>B)
You realise this is not needed for a game to get popular? SG is an indie game and did amazingly well. Plus if you care about good gameplay it shouldn't mater
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>>338050398
I'd laugh if we just got Urien outta nowhere.
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>>338050921
>truly like Melee
So all those fighters that came out around and after SF3 were truly like SF? No, that didn't mater and there is huge diversity. You refuse to play anything that even changes the slightest thing cause it's not muh melee
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>>338050727
B) doesn't apply to Melee players. Smash 4 has a big player base and support from nintendo. Still, only a handful of Melee players play it.

>>338050818
There isn't a real sequel to Melee, why should they move?. Also, Project M (a mod of brawl that modified the gameplay to make it similar to Melee) was getting big and was the only Smash game that big names of Melee were playing.
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>>338051029
>But good smash style games have been made

Brawl and Sm4sh are very different from Melee. The general idea of get the person off the stage and the control scheme are all they really share. They don't have the incredibly physics system of Melee that makes it such an intense, creative and crowd-pleasing game. If you were actually a smash player you would know this. Even people who play casually can instantly tell that Brawl and Sm4sh play incredibly differently from how Melee did.
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>>338051029
>good smash style games have been made
like?

smash 4 is literally nothing like melee other than being the same genre and having the same characters

project m is a fan mod that got abandoned by it's developers and isn't allowed to have it's tournaments streamed.

rivals of aether is literally an indie made in game maker and has 8 characters and watered down mechanics

there's no magical successor to melee that everyone ignores. there just isn't one
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>>338049863
*Triggered*
lol
>>338050084
arguably the highest, yes.
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>>338045725
Swap him for alucard, who beat Chris t's Ken, supposedly the best Ken in the USA, using honest meatball Birdie of the highly punishable specials.
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>>338051029
You just explained why Melee people don't move on. They care about good gameplay. Neither Brawl or Smash 4 had gameplay that they considered good, which is why they didn't move on.

None of the "Smashlike" games have had gameplay nearly as good as Melee either. People say Rivals, but Rivals is trash compared to Melee. It has dash dancing, wavedashing and a shitty version of crouch cancelling but that's all.

Rivals isn't nearly as deep as Melee and everyone plays exactly the same because the creator is an idiot that wants everyone to be full rushdown. They nerfed a low tier character because they didn't like her being able to play campy, they want everyone to be hyper rushdown. Rivals also doesn't have shields which is pretty trash, they tried to make any sort of defensive play impossible.

Rivals is also really easy to play, there's no much of an execution barrier. I honestly think Brawl/Smash 4 is harder to play than Rivals. Honestly, Rivals is an example of why you need more than wavedashing and dash dancing for a game to be good and exciting.

Lots of Melee players played PM alongside Melee but PM died.
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>>338050858
If they haven't at least got their online store sorted out by the end of the month then people really need to start losing their jobs over at Capcom
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>>338051342

Jeez it just sounds like all they want is melee with better graphics. The whole point is to step out of your safety zone and try something new. I play Tekken and i want to try the new KoF coming out.

Notice how it is nothing like Tekken and i still want to play it. Why can't melee players do the same and try an anime fighter or MK or DoA? Anything would do.
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>>338051735
This. Rivals really is easy, It's sad because I really had hope for the game. Why the fuck they nerfed ABSA at all is fucking retarded.
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Isn't Dreamhack a smash event first and a fighting game event second?
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>>338051342
>rivals of aether is literally an indie made in game maker and has 8 characters
So was Skullgirls

>watered down mechanics
Oh you mean it isn't melee so it's not good. You sound like the SFV shitposters but actually believe what they say

>>338051735
>None of the "Smashlike" games have had gameplay nearly as good as Melee
insert link to first post here cause you proved my point
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>>338052030
are you implying people can't play more than one game?

I don't understand. People should stop playing melee and play mortal kombat? those games have nothing in common. why is it better if we're playing that one instead?
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>>338052242
>So was Skullgirls
And what's your point? Did the Street Fighter players all "move on" to Skullgirls? No, it remained a niche game. That's exactly what we're trying to explain to you.
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>>338052227
Dreamhack is a huge "esports" event in general. It added Melee before Street Fighter but it didn't originate as a Melee tournament.
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>>338052242
Skullgirls is fucking trash and anyone who likes its gameplay is a fucking fraud.
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>>338048997
>carried gamerbee to grand finals
So adon carried him too?
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>>338052501
I'm not saying you should abandon your main game but instead TRY something different, which is what i'm doing with KoF. There are so many people here and high level players who play more than one fighting game.

So far it seems like smash players can't play anything other than smash.
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>>338052501
because mortal kombat is an actual video game unlike shitlee
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>>338052515
>it remained a niche game
http://steamspy.com/app/245170

It did very well, and that is just pc where fighting games usually struggle. Even got a japanese physical release. You see everyone else in the FGC actually likes to try new and different things, they don't just play the same game for ever trying to get blood out of a stone and pretending there is such amazing hidden depth cause it is the only game they know about and have artistically looked at every aspect.

But as my original point said, meleefags only want melee and no mater what no game would replace that cause they have cemented themselves in place
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What's wrong with having a favorite game?
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>>338052957
>So far it seems like smash players can't play anything other than smash.
It's more they'll try it but if it isn't melee it just isn't as good even if depth lies elsewhere
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>>338052957
I play some guilty gear Xrd on the side, but there's nothing wrong with only wanting to play one fighting game.

it's also much much easier to go between two traditional fighting games than it is with melee. the fundamentals are different
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>>338052957
Melee players all tried Brawl when it came out. They hated it so they went back.

As was already pointed out, lots of Melee players played PM too before it was killed off.

Plenty of Melee players have tried Rivals of Aether but opinions on it are mixed and it's not going to take off as a major game, it simply doesn't have the support and marketing to spread to a big audience.

There are also Melee players who play traditional fighting games too. Prog, one of the most important Melee organizers, was originally a Street Fighter player in fact.

What exactly makes you think that Melee players never TRY any other games just because they've kept playing Melee as their main game all these years?
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>>338053256
So what you are saying is,>>338047691
>none of them would care cause it isn't melee
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>>338053017
>But as my original point said, meleefags only want melee and no mater what no game would replace that cause they have cemented themselves in place
You are honestly only saying this because you havent played melee. And i can tell that this isnt an opinion you yourself formed. Go try before yous pout stuff like that. Because it shows that you have no idea what you are talking about.
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>>338052825
Nah, Adon cost him the tourney, fight sticks be damned. Was really looking forward to that Winners Finals runback too but ah well.
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>>338053017
Compared to Street Fighter, Tekken, Marvel, or even something like GG Skullgirls is niche. It never even got on the main stage at Evo.

Yes, lots of people have played and tried SG, but what we're talking about is why Melee players don't "move on" from their game. If you want to use SG as a comparison for why Melee players should all move on to Rivals of Aether then you need to demonstrate how SG got a bunch of people to move on from a big game like SF, which it never did, so the whole point is moot.

>>338053343
So now your strategy is to just make up things I didn't say? Or is your reading comprehension really that terrible?
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>>338052957
From what I've seen at Northeast tournaments Smash Wii U players actually do play other games. Hell a Smash player sent Chris T to losers at NCR someone that won a ranking event. Melee only dwindled and dwindled at Big E events even he gave them pot bonuses + a stream and there own space until he had to remove it since so few people came
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>>338053114
Oh for god sakes stop talking like smash has unspeakable depth that no other game can compare to, have you considered that different fighting games offer different things. There isn't some mysterious depth that all fighting games can offer and that melee only has.

You can't say one game is better than another if they are so different. It's like those dumbasses who compare the score to Godhand to imagine babies, who cares?

This is why people say smash is not a fighting game, they are so far removed from most fighting games that they can't even try anything new.
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>>338053691
nice reading comprehension, he was saying meleefags can't see depth in different ways when playing other games so they assume there is none
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>>338047667
Let's go back to Night Warriors.
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>>338041863
>People cheering for the GF winner vs SFV Top 32

Woooooooowwwwww

Not only that but there were more people watching the SFV top 32 than there were people watching Melee Grand Finals.

Why did this weak ass bait get 200 replies?
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>you will never be this triggered by a 15 year old party game

feels good man.

Post best combo videos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvFE6OcXLhc
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>>338053782
that doesn't make them look any better.
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>>338049492
Darkstalkers 4 when?
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>>338053923
it still means you're a faggot for getting triggered by something you read wrong
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How do people feel about Brawlhalla? It was my first experience with a smash like game. But it ultimately felt shallow and game boiled down to bait fests.

Is it worth playing further?
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>>338053943
Never. Resurrection didn't do well enough.
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>>338053901

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIWwRm0-4-w

Respect your elders son
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>>338054075
>We've actually gotten to where a game selling well on release isn't enough to get a sequel
>It has to sell well again when it's rereleased 20 years later
What happened to this industry
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>>338047086
>he wasn't around when t. Alberto Barbosa was a thing

Laffin at you m8
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>>338053901
>Post best combo videos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acNvG0J8Ygg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuKAOB10GCM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdGbY6fKCIE
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>>338054304
Okay, but to be fair, 20 years is a really long time. Just because something sold well 20 years ago doesn't mean there's still a market for it.
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>>338054538
>click the first video
>cookie cutter combos on a training mode CPU
okay
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Why does smash always take so long that it goes into overtime?
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>>338054668
>>cookie cutter combos
He's already exploiting glitches specific to that game within the first minute.
>on a training mode CPU
Uh, it's a combo video. What are you supposed to be doing them on?
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>>338054812
jeez anon a match might go to time on stream once per major, and that's generous
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>>338054812
Melee doesn't. I wouldn't be surprised if Sm4sh does because edgeguarding is so weak in it and most characters can barely do any damage even with their boring repetitive combos. But I don't watch it so I wouldn't know.
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>>338049863
>being this mad
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>>338054916
>what are you supposed to be doing them on
I see combo video means something different to the rest of the FGC.

melee combo videos are pretty much always ripped from tournament matches.
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>>338054812
A lot of back and fourth, so much stock, so much time and defensive play despite people wanking about how fast it is
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This thread is why Nintendrones should be put on death support.
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This thread is why FGC babies should be put on death support.
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>tfw you enjoy SFV and Melee
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>>338055350
DELETE THIS
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>>338055350
Mah nigga
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>>338055337
Mad Smash babby he'll never be taken seriously by anyone besides other fat miserable fucks that still play a kiddie party game.
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Dieminion is in my pools for Toryuken, is he still washed up? He has Guile now so I'm spooked.
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>>338053901
How does he do it?
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>>338055086
Well yeah. It's hard to replicate combos in training on melee, you can't use the c-stick as well as moves hit differently depending on how you hit them and what percent they're at.
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>>338055795
Do you think you could beat this man?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AiyAfMstvQ
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>>338056012
Maybe if I counterpick him with Nash or Cammy or someone, I'm definitely not playing Birdie in that match. I've played a lot of sets with a Guile bud and have some tech against him, will have to see if it works. Wish me luck, fellow shitter.
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>>338055875
jesus christ I need to get me some addy
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>this kiddie party game is hardcore shit!

Meleefags are the laughing stock of the fgc
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Will he ever return?
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>>338055350
>>338055581
>tfw your general indifference to melee gets pushed into eye-rolling annoyance because of some shitty melee theoryfighters with a huge chip on their collective shoulder about non-smash games
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>>338055931
it's not that, it's extremely easy to preform flashy combos in the training room in melee. the computer doesn't take defensive measures like DI or shining during a combo

melee combos are reactive. not only do they differ depending on which character you're fighting, but also which player you're fighting.

you can zero to death a bot ten times out of ten. they don't know how to escape your combos.
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>>338044168
>implying most of our top players aren't Smash players, too
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>>338056475
youtube.com/ppmd
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>>338056704
fuck, oops

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTOBOt0BipDQdi8cgMv-_Mg
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EVO is dead, CEO is where it's at.

Also SFV won't die until the money runs out and the pros come out and finally stop hyping it up and talk about it realistically including its flaws.

Then everyone will shit on it like they did with SFIV, and maybe some people will move on to other games.

I'm going to start trying out Tekken even though I've never been one for 3D fighters.
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>>338056838
>people that only play one game
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>>338056475
APEX 2015 had to have been the tournament to produce the most godlike reaction images
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>>338055350
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>>338056792
what if we had a player with PPMD's brain, mango's balls and armada's hands
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>>338056941
There will never be another match as glorious as the Leffen vs. Chillin salty suite.
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What is it about fighting games that smashfags won't try them?
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>>338057545
?
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>>338057545
What if we had a player with Mango's brain, Hungrybox's balls, and M2K's hands?
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>>338057673
I don't know man. I do know why FGC shitters don't try Melee though, it's too technically demanding for most of them.
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>>338057765
we'd have me ;_;
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>>338057789
yeah that's it, hit the nail on the head.
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>>338057789
desu anyone can learn melee if you're willing to put the time in

if you're someone with natural talent and you put in 2 hours a day of tech skill practice and play with people once a week you can be respectable in a matter of months

that's a much, much steeper learning curve than any modern fighter offers though. you can learn some bread and butter combos as ryu and be decent at SFV within a couple weeks
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Someone care to explain what happened in OP's video?
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>>338058075
fan favourite won his first tourney of the year and his fans are cheering
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