Who would win /v/?
The edgier one of course. That really depends on which version of Cloud we're talking about then.
>>338023202
By Death Battle rules (i.e., no summons or silly overpowered magic)?
Raiden, he's just far too fast and his sword is literally designed to slice through everything and anything.
With their full arsenal? Cloud, since all it would take is a cast of Stop and then bombard Raiden with Meteors or orbital laser beams from Bahamut.
>>338023380
both are at their peak skill level
>>338023610
just no summons, thats technically calling for help and making it a 2v1 temporarily
>>338023696
>powerful summoner who is defenseless on their own
>can't summon
Shit ruleset.
>>338023696
But what Materia?
If you take into consideration all the magic FFVII has, it's Cloud's win so long as he can get Stop off. Raiden has no power to tamper with time or anything or any magic resistance, so it'd be game over right there.
>>338023202
Revolver Ocelot
>>338023807
>summoning is literally the only thing Cloud can do
nigga what, he's got his own shit
>>338023202
post the edit faggot
>>338023807
does Raiden get to call in someone then?
>>338023817
>But what Materia?
which ever ones he would take with him when he is at his strongest
The battle of the edge.
>>338023202
Cloud is so fucking OP it hurts, they'd have to gut over half his arsenal just to give anyone a chance against him.
I mean just consider the fucker's strength to flail that sword around he's like the goddamn Hulk.
>>338023887
what?
>>338023951
you know the one
>>338023943
but, his universe is an anime universe were shit like that just doesnt follow traditional gravity, like how he can just jump forever like is Advant Children
but Raiden is also super fucking strong in a real world setting, with our laws of gravity
>>338023943
I'd say Lightning would win against him.
>>338023992
no I dont
>>338023879
>>338023891
I didn't mention Cloud, I'm just saying that is a shit ruleset since summoning is part of a character's power, and often times their entire power.
>>338024184
but Cloud can already do a lot without summoning, summoning is just a fancy way of calling in backup
>>338024184
then those people just won't be part of death battles or be matched up specifically with characters who focus on summoning so that it makes sense for them to both have it
what's the big deal?
>>338024326
I'm not talking about fucking Cloud I'm talking about the rules.
>>338024098
Well obviously
But only from XIII-2 onwards
>>338024347
well the fucking rules are 1v1
unless a special situation like>>338024331
pops up
>>338024418
So a necromancer or summoner using their power makes the fight unfair? Are you literally retarded? Might as well just stand around and die then. Some battle!
The rules are garbage.
>>338023202
Jackie Chan
>>338023202
raiden with all his power and speed got destroyed by sam who is a normal human with no augments. cloud would obliterate him.
>>338024506
Are you retarded or just dense?
Cloud easily
Raiden literally can't hurt him because he's too durable
Cloud gets Octoslashed by Sephiroth and then he flies up and then Omnislashed him like it was nothing
>>338024506
It's okay sweetie, you can use whatever rules you want for your make-believe fanfiction battles
i like both characters and cloud would win. raiden is fast but not as fast as cloud. raiden is physically stronger than cloud but that won't help him at all.
>>338024651
Neither, are you?
>>338024506
>he brings up two completely irrelevant classes just so he can make a point
I know /v/ is full of fucking morons who do that, but you actually think you're right in any way. Kill your fucking self.
>>338024862
>defending a ruleset that unfairly hinders an entire character type
shiggy
>>338024962
but summoning isnt his entire character
>>338024962
cloud doesn't need help. summons aren't his ability you useless sack of fucking shit. he finds them and he can use them just like everyone else who can. how is that hindering him when he could fuck up raiden anyway?
>>338024962
So you still don't understand the point do you. Sucks to be you
>>338025123
>summoner isn't a character type
You're right, neither is druid, diviner, wizard or shaman.
>>338023202
If Cloud has materia, Cloud. If not, Raiden.
>>338025149
>being this dense
I never once mentioned Cloud, I'm not talking about Cloud and I never was talking about Cloud.
>>338023202
Cloud wins with or without materia.
Reminder that Raiden got rekt by Jetstream Sam who had barely any cyborg enhancements at all.
>>338025365
then you make no fucking sense. if the first post isn't yours, then why the fuck would you burst out of nowhere and say "hur dur powerful summoners can't use their summoning shit, shit rules" ?
>>338025515
after its already been said that if it was a summoner in the battle they would go up against another summoner
>>338025515
I am lead to believe that the standard rules for whatever this dumb death battle thing is no summoning, that's why.
>>338025715
unless pitted against another summoner, retard
>>338025715
in any death battle it's assumed there is no help.
none of these characters need help to fight.
your anger over this proves you're underage and fucking useless.
get the fuck out already
>>338025767
So then a summoner vs a mage. The mage is allowed to use magic and the summoner has to attack by whacking him with her book?
These rules would arbitrarily change the outcome of many battles, even not pure summoning characters like Yuna who can still use white / black magic would be severely hindered vs a non summoner.
Cloud wins flawlessly if he can use materia
It's more tied up if he can't, but I'd still vote for him in hand to hand purely because he killed worst thing than Raiden.
Fucking sick of these bullshit balarina show sword dancing bullshit these two are gonna pull off.
I wanna see both of them have one hand tied to each other and given a knife each.
LETS SEE A REAL FUCKING BATTLE
>>338025917
stop trolling now
>So then a summoner vs a mage. The mage is allowed to use magic and the summoner has to attack by whacking him with her book?
thats not at all what I fucking said, you are just trolling now and any of these posts will now be considered shitposting and offering nothing to the thread topic
Flash vs. Quick SilverWho won?
>>338026054Mad Jim Jasper
>>338026040
>thats not at all what I fucking said
So then summoners are only allowed to fight other summoners?
Raiden because RULES OF NATURE.
how about Smash 4 Cloud vs Playstation Allstars Raiden?
Thanks to the FF7 remake they're literally the same.
>>338026576
LITERALLY THE SAME PERSONPOST THE EDIT
>>338023202
Stop shilling your fucking garbage website on /v/.
>>338026606
Shut the fuck up. It will happen again, pussy.
if cloud can use summons raiden can call snake
>>338028068
>Snake vs KOTR
Cloud wins
>>338023202
more importantly who gives a shit?
