Do you trust him, /v/?
>>338020487
pooooooooooooooooooooo
>>338020487
DESIGNATED
>>338020487
am i the only one that never had any problems with ghandi?
>>338020603
He's a nice and peaceful guy, until he gets his hands on nukes.
DELETE THIS
>>338020603
I bet you play on easy, kid
>Egypt has 4 salt
>"there is no way to make this deal work"
FUCK YOU RAMESES
>>338020487
>you have met Ghandi
>countdown to apocalypse begins
>>338020487
>Trusting anyone but Shaka and Genghis
>Trusting even those two, unless they are on the other side of the world
On that note, for some reason Nobunaga is usually a huge cunt, but whenever he is on the other side of the world he is the biggest bro I know
>find a civ that's consistently your ally from game to game
>they can't fight for shit
pic related
>bros for life with a civ for thousands of years
>hates you and declares war on you in the final turns of the game because you're winning
This kills the immersion
>>338021273
>it's always Caesar
>>338021273
>friends for thousands of years
>they accept your religion
>you remove kebab together
>ideology turns them hostile
>be bros with one of the civs
>Even go with them to war on another civ
>get attacked by another civ
>ask for my bro civ's help fighting them
>"This arrangement is of no interest to us"
Why is the game's AI so retarded
>domination victory
>take out the AI's capital
>rename the captured city to its leader's last name
Who /head on a pike/ here
>>338021169
Theodora is always a bitch in my games
Weak as fuck, but always trying to annoy the shit of me
Thankfully I can stomp her easily, at the small price of being considered worse than Hitler by everyone
>>338021687
>-20 happiness because your neighbor chose a shit tier ideology
>>338021443
>Caesar being a friend to you in the first place
That guy is vile snake
>>338021273
I'm surprised there isn't a mod that makes it so if you're allies with a civ for a long enough time they don't turn outright murderous when you get close to a win condition.
Like, I'm not asking for them to make crazy ass deals and sell you uranium or some shit, or purposely sacrifice themselves to buy you time. But just be like "Hey, China has been talking shit behind your back and doesn't know we're tight. What's the plan, broheim?" Just some sort of clique system where out of the current civs in a game, if their super ally is winning they don't mind at all and just keep chugging along.
>>338022198
>shithead AI declares war on me
>repel them and capture their staging city
>get a massive warmonger penalty
>>338021105
Shaka will literally never betray you if you get on his good side, even if you become super hitler.
>>338020487
he's a racist and a pedophile
>a bug causes Gandhi to be overly aggressive in the original game
>LOL XD THIS IS HILARIOUS WE SHOULD MAKE HIM A WAR MONGERER IN EVERY GAME LOLOLOL
fucking dumb
>Oda Nobunaga HATES warmongers
This makes literally no sense.
>>338022293
>AI declares and spends a couple hundred turns sending melee units into a ranged meat grinder
>won't accept peace unless it's heavily favoring them
Five dollars says Civ VI isn't going to be any better.
>>338022064
How do you rename cities?
>>338022293
>Warlike AI declares war on me
>everyone hates him already
>decide to make sure this wont happen again
>take his capital and leave him with his shitty cities, burn down all worthless cities
>now everybody hates me
>roll with it
>burn down everyone foolish enough to oppose me
Every game is the same
I just can't do a mild war, it's either fruitless skirmishes because I cant be bothered or TOTALEN KRIEG
>>338020487
[DECLARE WAR]
>>338022580
>AI declares and spends a couple hundred turns sending melee units into a ranged meat grinder
Won't happen in 6 because unit combinations.
>won't accept peace unless it's heavily favoring them
Even in 5 if you just slap their shit so hard that the hand mark is permenant, they will agree to basically anything and give you cities for free to get you off their back.
>>338022497
This actually true
>>338022626
>people are upset that I'm playing America and doing what my UA Manifest Destiny was all about
>>338022594
Open up city menu
Under the name of the city, you see "Rename"
Click that
>>338020487
No, I'm in the middle of a game right now, 200 turns in, and he's being a little bitch, giant standing army, we were friends and he declared war on me out of nowhere and refuses to agree to peace or any sort of trade agreement.
>>338022504
Except no, he's actually one of the most peaceful leaders. He just really likes using nukes.
>>338022742
Huh, maybe the UI overall I isntalled in the main files moved the option.
>never goes to war with you
>loves to trade
>doesn't mind your expansion
>apathetic to religion
>always lets you look at her huge tittays
>always greets you smiling
Best ruler.
>>338022746
Smash his fucking army and he'll be a lot more open to negotiation.
>>338021105
>surprised someone with the moniker of 'Demon King' is a huge cunt
>>338021749
If you offer them 200 gold they will agree to go to war with them.
But then the next term they will make peace with them, and you're out the 200 gold.
>>338022836
She denounces me every game
>>338020487
>Do you trust him, /v/?
Always. He never betrays me, everbecause I betray him first.
>>338022873
Denounce doesn't mean shit, I don't even know why it's in the game.
>>338022870
>AI asks me to help them fight a war
>i ask for 10 turns, they're happy
>they literally have no standing army at all and I have to fight the whole war myself
>>338022738
I roleplayed as Spain once
I decided I would claim whatever I wanted if I could hold from gameplay perspective
Funnily enough though, my neighbours happened to be Hiawatha, Pachacuti and Pocatello
I already claimed Petra in a desert hills city and also Cerro de Potosi so I felt brave and just settled Uluru right away, buying every luxury tile their to piss those disgusting Indians off
Needless to say they hated me and tried to 3v1 me
Pachacuti went down first
Hiawatha and Pocatello tried to bargain for peace, but I would have none of that
Shit was cash
>>338021105
Nobunaga's mad at you for killing him in Onimusha.
>>338020536
IN THE LOOOOOOOOO
>>338022925
>AI asks me to help them fight a war
>i ask for 10 turns, they're happy
>on turn 9 they commence peace treaty
>you're the only one at war now and enemy's massive army already at your border
>>338022917
>renounce unpopular leader
>get an easy diplomacy boost with the countries that he's pissed off
>>338022917
It makes all friends of the denouncer like you a little less, and enemies like you a little more.
Though yeah, ultimately it doesn't do much.
>>338020487
>Trusting Ghandi
I'd have better chances with Atila or Genghis.
>>338022836
She hated me in my last game. Catherine didn't take kindly to me ruining one of her friends because I told them to stop spying and they didn't want to.
>>338022851
It's me and my buddy against 10 CPUs on hard,
2 down, 4 were at war with us, 4 were friendly, out of nowhere they decided to all turn against us, so we're fighting a war on multiple fronts, but we're doing good.
Austria was an idiot and gave up their 2nd town in exchange for peace, the peace is over, now there is war, and now I have a great city right up against their capital blowing the shit out of their army as they try to mobilize.
>>338022925
Yeah, siding with CPUs for wars is a joke.
I only play the mode where you can ONLY win when you take over all the other cities, I'm tired of doing a 30+ hour game, and out of nowhere someone gets a science win.
I always play as the Danish, as they are the master race,
>always spend more time raising tech and buildings instead of conquering
>still haven't gotten a Domination victory
What ruler do I need to pick to finally get off my ass and smash some faces in?
>>338023125
If all you want is the achievement, just play as Alexander and do it on the Duel map against someone shitty at war.
>>338022949
Why didn't you buy the natural wonder tile, you fucking dirty casual?
>>338023125
British on Archipelago
Genghis/Shaka on Pangaea
These guys are easy and fun
>>338022281
that just unrealistic bro
>>338023125
Russia. They have a history of kicking ass.
>>338022504
Gandhi was a fucking nutjob in real life so it's okay.
>>338023168
I don't really care about the achievement, I just want to break the habit.
>>338023125
Danish is best for domination, do domination only mode.
>>338020487
Ghandi is a treacherous cunt, no fuckin' way.
>>338022504
I'm about 20 hours into a match with my buddy, and Gandhi is legit being a super bitch that won't accept peace.
>>338023176
Because that would be the first tile I got through border expansion and I had only enough gold to get the salt and dyes, which I could easily lose, opposed to Ulury which was guarenteed to be mine
Plus I already had Cerro de Potosi for faith gain (natural wonder pantheon)
>>338023125
Denmark
Berserkers are great imo
though admittedly I'm not as experienced with the game.
>Hurr every CIV is betraying me even though we were best bros all time what the fuck
Because CIV V is a shit game and the AI is programmed to play and win the game instead of roleplaying and managing an empire.
This is also the reason why the AI acts irrational in trades.
What's the best Civ game to play. Or perhaps an alternative, better series? I've literally never touched a single one.
>>338023376
Alpha Centauri > CIV 2 > CIV 4 > CIV V > CIV 3 > CIV BE > CIV 1
>>338021273
It's a design choice, they said that they wanted AIs that play to win.
I can kinda understand the choice, because things get a little too easy when the AI is willing to let you win just because you're buddies, but I really hope they change it in Civ VI, to make diplomacy feel like more than just postponing hostilities.
>>338023376
Civ V is easy to get into
EL is fun too, but a bit harder
Gal Civ II is still a very solid game
Never played Civ IV, but supposedly it's good
SMAC is hailed as the best 4X game to exist, but I never played it myself
>>338023213
Defensively, and the game doesn't really reflect it. At least not V where their ruler is set to Catherine, in IV you could pick Stalin and he was pretty warmongering.
>>338023350
>game with only one winner; you do not form permanent alliances and win as a team
>AI being programmed to take that winning spot is somehow a bad thing
>>338023376
Alpha Centauri is the best
>when civ tries to get my luxury every turn but claims that trading my luxury for his luxury is somehow unfair
>>338023376
>I've literally never touched a single one.
If you've never played 4X games then Civilization V with all its expansions is both good and beginner friendly. I want to stress getting the Complete Edition as without the expansions it's pretty bare-bones.
Another good game is Endless Legend, a sci-fi themed 4X with some really unique factions. It also has quests of sort (both faction based and random ones) which help flesh out the lore and provide powerful bonuses for your empire, plus other a bit RPGish elements like hiring, gearing up and leveling heroes who can be used as generals, spies or city governors. Unlike Civ V, EL is already good even without the expansions though I'd strongly suggest getting the biggest ones (Guardians, Shadows, Shifters) as they add new gameplay mechanics and factions.
There are other old and good games too, but I wouldn't exactly recommend them to someone who is a beginner to the genre.
>Always try to be a peaceful nation that doesn't get involved with foreign affairs.
>People keep dragging me into war by force as they invade, only to get shat on with my superior money buying an army overnight.
>Decimate my enemy, only to be forced into a new war because i'm apparently a war monger now.
>Destroy them too.
>This keeps happening, and people get pissed because I don't spare nations who are blatantly losing.
>Think they'd learn.
>They never do.
>>338023958
Cmon, man. Two of yours for one of mine is perfectly reasonable.
>>338023958
>AI doesn't want to lose their happiness bonus
>AI, who is your rival and not your teammate, doesn't give a fuck if you lose yours
Who would have thought?
If he has more than one of this luxury that you want but isn't willing to trade it off for a single luxury resource that he doesn't have, he probably hates you. AI is generally relatively fair when it comes to trades when they're neutral and above.
>>338023348
Beserkers ARE great, as are the Ski Infantry they get later. Plus if you play on a map with a lot of water, all their units get the amphibian bonus, to take away the penalty for moving to/from water, which really helps a good amount.
>>338023617
How accurate is this image?
>>338023376
CIV 4 was hailed by /v/ as being the best civ game for a LONG time, even long after Civ 5 came out.
It's only recently that /v/ has been saying civ 5 is better, and it's because it's a new wave of people that have never played 4.
The mods for 5 have pretty much caught up, but Civ 4 with best mods is still best.
>>338020603
It's not so much that Gandhi was evil, it's more that him EVER declaring war is jarring as fuck to such an extreme degree that it achieved meme status.
>>338024598
Civ 4 is still and always will be plagued in its entirety by stack of doom mechanic.
>He was a racist that encouraged the people of India to attack all black people.
>one of the most beloved and praised humans in history because he was so peaceful.
How?
>>338024663
People think he was a much kinder man than he actually was
>>338023616
The AI is also bad in general and unable to make decisions that favor them.
From the start they act like:
>''Fuck you i will win this give me 3000 gold and all your tech and you get nothing by the way''
>>338024663
It was just a bug of Civ1 that made him a psychopathic meme of the series.
>>338024303
I think he means their extra for his extra,
you have 2 wine and 0 spice? I have 2 spice and 0 wine, 1 wine for 1 spice, will give happiness bonus to both people, is great deal.
unless AI is friendly towards you they will demand more for the trade, even if they need it more than you.
>>338024717
political correctness
like how we all love nelson Mandela even though he was a terrorist and his wife set the opposition on fire.
>>338024735
He was a pretty stern fucker that didn't believe in wearing underwear because it fostered weakness, but that doesn't change the fact that he's a figure of peace.
>>338024865
sorry about the tripfag, I'm multithreading
>>338024754
They only try that shit if your army or economy is weak. When i make tons of dosh, everyone wants to be my friend. When i have a huge army, no one tries any bullshit.
>>338023958
This is why Civ is best played with real people.
I miss the old "Play by Email" modes for games,
I'm glad Civ still has hotseat.
playing CIV with 9 other humans is a great experience.
>>338024717
Ghandi taught the world that non-aggressive protest CAN work.
>>338022917
It makes you really angry at the person who just denounced you and gives you a good excuse to roll a tank column over them.
>>338024992
>mfw someone plays Shoshone and settles a city on a natural wonder right next to my capital
>>338024958
I've experienced the same thing, especially playing Germany because your army gets huge quickly.
Germany might not be great or very versatile, but having a big enough army will at least make diplomacy much easier.
Any time I play on anything higher than 3, the AI is in the next era and far eclipsing my civ before I'm 3 technologies in. How am I supposed to compete on higher difficulties?
Hell, I just had a Civ go across the entire continent, past 2 other civs to rape me with his far more advanced and larger army.
>>338025083
He also taught us to hate black people and attack them.
>>338025125
you know what you have to do,
Take the city by force while it's young, that is YOUR natural wonder.
>>338022917
Doesn't denouncing someone for pulling some shit make it more palatable to the other civs when you inevitably go to war? Or is that just the diplomatic bonus from denouncing common enemies cancelling out the warmonger penalty?
>>338024475
Very realistic. It's the best Civ-style game around.
>create your own units
>the leaders/factions all have unique personalities and philosophies
>tons of deep, interesting quotes in the game
>the Planet is a living being that reacts to how the players treat it
>several viable winning strategies
>it came out in 1999 and has better AI/diplomacy than Civ 5
You can get SMAC cheap on GoG if you don't want to hunt down a torrent. Play vanilla a few times before trying the expansion.
>>338025253
If you gonna war someone, denounce them first
It lowers the diplomatic penalties
>>338022836
>>338024958
The problem is that every single AI acts like that.
Gandhi keeps pushing your shit in if you have no real army just like fucking Shaka or Genghis Khan.
>Spain builds a city far away from their own realm next to my capital
>tell them to fuck off
>Okay.jpg
>a bit later they build another city at my border
>''Hey fuck you human player - Get your army away from my borders or else!''
>Even though i only have a normal garnison in my capital
>they denounce me
>everyone else denounces me even though i am literally at the other side of the world
>get into war
>kick Spains ass
>''You are an evil warmonger!''
There is no reason to defend the horrible AI of Civilization V. Even the devs admitted that they did an awful job.
My bros are always Harold, Oda and Washington, don't know why, they just like me.
>>338025437
Getting the fucking warmonger penalty for crushing a civ that declared war on me really pisses me off. Don't start shit you can't finish.
>Your waifu civ and you are friends the entire game
>suddenly starts denouncing you because you took one city state when everyone was at war
>everybody else thinks you're a warmongere
>That's okay i am way ahead of everyone else have nukes next tu-
>no uranium tiles anywhere
>>338025537
>conquering city states
That is not cool. You deserve everything.
>>338025537
City States were a mistake in general
Instead of enhancing the game it completely broke the flow. Entire games evolve around them.
>kill some barbarians to make the place safe for my builders
>Thank you for killing them! We love you now! t. Jerusalem
>Alexander gets pissed because they love me more than him now even though i never wanted to get any love from them
>>338025675
>encounter Greece or Siam
>remember you're playing Austria or Venice
>>338025675
>Playing witha alexander
I turn that faggot off every game
>>338022836
Don't forget that if you conquer her country she's totally up for letting you conquer her vag.
>>338025209
Truly a wise man.
>not playing with random personalities
baka lads
>>338026101
Why does that faggot always seem to be hemorrhaging money? I don't think I've caught him actually making money at any point
>there are retards here who play Civ 5 without the Community Balance Patch
What the fuck is the point
>>338026371
Large standing armies at any given point.
>>338026256
Like it matters with the awful AI barely doing anything different.
>be weak
>get hit
>be strong
>don't get hit till very close till victory then suddenly everyone attacks you in order to stop you from winning
>>338026101
I hate how different the rules work for AIs. If I tried to play with that kind of deficit, my whole empire would be fucked up in a few turns.
>>338026256
>play with random personalities
>everyone's an asshole
I feel like it was just a bad draw, but Polynesia got what they deserved.
Do the holes in civs territorys trigger anybody else
Im always left with all these holes in the map instead of nice pretty color coded lines matching up
>>338026620
Does it enhance AI? I haven't played Civ V for a long time and I thought maybe I could play it now.
>>338022293
>Being Israel
>yfw you spawn in a continent with absolutely no iron
>>338030552
"Heavens look at the time, we might have to start colonization a few centuries ahead of schedule"
>>338030552
Unless you're the British, iron isn't that much of value
Reaching Industrial Age to find no coal within or near your borders on the hand can fuck your game up real good
>>338026620
It changes so much that I fear to install it because of not knowing how to do shit anymore in the game
>>338027048
Polynesia is always a fucking cunt
Tries to be friendly to everyone, settles everywhere, really everywhere and denounces you the minute you step out of line
I always rain Holy fire on that faggot
>>338020672
The quickest way to piece is destruction
No one posted Askia yet?
This guy is a serious WE WUZ in every game I play.
>I get copper smelting
>already making decent soldier
>he declares war, shows up with 3 primitive warriors
>mop the floor
>asks for peace a few turns later, I didn't even see one of his cities
>fast forward several turns
>motherfucker appears with knights on my borders
>blast them with rifles and artillery
>decide to take one of his cities to teach him a lesson
>I do and he asks for peace
>mulls over his defeat for a few years
>another civ declares war on me, big one too
>time for serious war, get my soldiers ready.
>askia goes full HUEHUE and declares war aswell when my soldiers are away
>get pissed
>pay 3000 gold or so to make a small force
>anhilitate the National Nigger Militia
>pay more gold for cannons
>take all his cities besides the capital
>all while fighting the other big war against a northern civ
>eventually declares peace
>passive agressive rest of the game
>no soldiers, no economy
>constantly denouncing me, others civs don't care, we're mostly all bros
>last match of the game, Obunaga wants more land, and so do I
>It is war
>Askia makes that shit eating grin "WAAAGGHH"
>get pissed at his attempt (one infantry, one tank)
>wipe him the fuck out with a nuke
>crush his city with a single infantry and take it
>everyone hates me now, even former bros
>decide this world is retarded as fuck, 30 nukes fly in the same turn
>scientific victory at turn 457
>>338033917
>thirty nukes fly in the same turn
I like you
Nothing like covering half of your enemies empire in nuclear destruction
![civbeyondearth_review_b_1080.0[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/y7Qwmnr.jpg "civbeyondearth_review_b_1080.0[1].png")
This fucking game
>base game is ok
>strong suits is its unique units and a solid if not mundane gameplay
>problem is lack of complexity and diverse strategy
Then
>DLC comes out
>adds in a water city allowing for more large scales territorial wars
>adds in more units and more upgrade paths for older units
>adds in a bonus system and ally bonus system for further depth in strategy
>>>Completely butchers the diplomacy system making the game almost unplayable
Like literally what the fuck were they thinking.
>>338034950
Filthy harmonyfag.
>>338023068
Genghis is super trustworthy. The hard part is getting him to like you, but once he does he'll basically be your muscle. Doubly goes with Shaka.
>>338036526
Google brah
I always go superiority with a tint of purity for beefy front liners backed by SABR
SABR to stronk to ignore, and drone cages+golems create a really fucking strong defense.
>>338034950
Do they do anything with satellites in DLC? It felt really underwhelming for a whole separate layer of strategy in the base game.
>>338037332
There's a wonder that lets you overlap satellites by 1 tile that are launched from its containing city.
Sounds small but can help if used right.
Of coarse teleporting is really useful late game when your economy is full roar if going conquest.
Other than that it's all situational. There's a satellite which stops spies from doing anything, and offensive satellites can fuck shit up if there don't have something to knock them down.
>>338037108
>SABR
May nigga
Best unit it the game
>>338020487
Fuck no, fuck Ghandi. That cunt put an embargo on me and I fucking hate him
October feels so long away
>>338030552
>>338032928
Coal is truly my nemesis, I can't even remember the last time when I actually had it in my natural territory. It gets kind of annoying when you always have to fight for it.
>>338027516
>Does it enhance AI?
I don't know, you tell me.
>>338025275
Mechanically, it'll probably feel quite bare-bones to a modern 4X gamer. But the flavor and story more than make up for it.
>No matter what civ I get, I go for maximum jew
If it doesn't give me gold, I don't want anything to do with it.
>>338020603
He's always been chill for me and I play on Prince
>>338026101
classic greece
>raze a couple cities in classic era
>nations declaring war on you constantly
>>338042135
>find civ early game
>wipe them out before finding any other players
>be peaceful fucking science hippies the rest of the game and everyone is friendly to you
NO ONE MUST EVER KNOW
What the best PEACE time song and why is it Portugal's theme?
Does the AI in "Civilization" ever make sense?
>>338020487
That depends: Does he have any uranium? Is he near any uranium? If yes to either, don't trust him, and conquer him quickly before he nukes you. If no to both, trust him to keep his word, then stab him in the back and conquer him anyway.
>Game starts with me on an island
>End up winning without meeting any of the other people
It was the most relaxing game I've every played
>>338020603
I've had more problems with Montezuma, that traitorous fuck.
WE HAD A DEAL, MONTY! WE HAD A DEAAAAAAAAL!
>>338043340
>start on really big peninsula with a single tile width to mainland pangaea
>stick in 4 cities and run to science win without dealing with the world's shit
>everyone declaring war towards the end, can't deal with my massive navy and forts across the land bridge
W A L L
A
L
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>>338041846
The full community patch is definitely worth the effort to figure out, it's all really well done. Especially a lot of the city and happiness stuff, making wide viable was a great change.
>>338020603
It's typical, but I've never had a problem with him until he got nukes
Literally, the very next move, he denounces me, moves his forces closer, and declares war on me and takes like 2 cities
>>338046361
I don't think he's biased to be aggressive from the personality values I've seen. Just that he's very likely to build nukes if he can and, if he has them, to use them when at war.
I can't make the transition from Emperor to Immortal, or from King to Emperor with CBP. How do I git gud? I have a lot of hours and know every concept of the game.
>>338046614
I've never been able to beat the game above king. I've watched videos of higher level games but it doesn't feel like that same game anymore.
i hate that each time i defend myself and win a war the world litteraly see me as Hitler and the rest of the game turn into a domination victory scenario... fucking hell
>>338046614
Science and Growth are King and Queen. Focus on them.
Also steal a worker from city states in the starting game
>>338020603
Blacks and sjw's hate him because he was a Hindu Nationalist and didn't care for smelly african's
Trusting the AI was a mistake
>>338023616
I'm really hoping permanent alliances/potential for team-win is something they actually add in Civ 6.
>>338025187
You have to build the science buildings almost as soon as you gain access to them, especially in your capital and ESPECIALLY the National College that you get for discovering Philosophy
>me and a friend try playing online with randoms
>us 2, and 6 randoms
>luckily we share an island with one other guy
>the 3 of us stay peaceful, getting mad trade routes and shit
>english scout starts wandering around our island
>think nothing of it
>50 turns later the english giga army appears on our borders, an entire naval fleet with some land troops not far behind
>he's in the fucking industrial era
>my best unit is a longswordsman
>the three of us get catastrophically raped
i have no idea how he even managed that shit, i didn't know i was that bad at the game
>>338046852
It's better in the mod, but can't you just liberate the cities later to remove the penalty?
>waging war against Elizabeth
>hear this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5oO6wBrp8s
>only makes me more pumped
Civ VI better not falter in the audio department
>>338047503
Baba Yetu was Baba Yetu, but the opening to CiV is actually criminally underrated.
>>338024663
No, in the earlier Civs using a specific perk that lowered the hostility of all leaders would roll back his hostility from 1 to 99 or some shit, making him a complete cock who would declare war at the drop of a hat.
is there a way, say 100 turns after you have a conquered a city, to liberate it?
![gandhi10b[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ar8z1sA.jpg "gandhi10b[1].jpg")
>Ours is one continual struggle against a degradation sought to be inflicted upon us by the Europeans, who desire to degrade us to the level of the raw Kaffir whose occupation is hunting, and whose sole ambition is to collect a certain number of cattle to buy a wife with and, then, pass his life in indolence and nakedness.
What did he mean by this?
for me next game
also, anyone complaining about AI, penalties etc needs to get the community patch - it is excellent, and worth it alone for the way you can deal with vassals
>>338047503
Probably the best war theme in the game.
Nothing quite sticks out to me except Brazil, which is up there for creativity.
Most of the war themes are just so quiet and boring. No real power or force to them- which is sad, because I like the idea that they had about changing some of the 'happier' songs (ode to joy, America the Beautiful) into war songs, but they only did it right with vow to thee
>>338046852
Less warmonger hatred mod
>>338047503
That's high on my favorites list but the song that makes me the most pumped for world conquest is this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhWaufQD9Uo
What's /v/'s favorite peace theme? I'm fond of Darius' and Alexander's.
>>338048059
>managing to vassal anyone
Do I need a warscore of 100 or something?
>>338047704
His level of aggressiveness was set at 1. When you got to the Modern Era, you could adopt pacifism as a policy, which would roll your aggressiveness back by two. Aggression was an unsigned variable, so when Ghandi inevitably adopted pacifism his aggression would roll back around to 255. On a scale that was designed to only go to 10.
>>338047704
Actually it was playing game on easiest difficulty that lowered aggression of all AI opponents and looped Gandhi's to maximum value, that made it especially surprising.
>>338048047
That dedicated shitting streets are better than whitey's for government.
>>338048162
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aX2CcrsxLcQ
This is the best war theme. This isn't up for discussion.
>>338048179
community patch makes it a lot easier. I like to play domination style games, and I've had vassals with my war score at around 60 and had offers to be my vassal. I guess it depends on the leader. It is used as a preservation technique by the AI, so if they think they are going to get smashed they do that. Loads of useful bonuses and the option to set own levels of tax is pretty boss. Also, get a load of new units as tribute when you change eras too, which really can change how a war is going. I can't recommend the patch enough - I'm on 1745 hours now on Civ V and it keeps it fresh.
>>338048162
The one you should never hear
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icThznCrzC8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14YHs0375tY
This is by far the best war theme in the game. Perfectly captures the feeling of getting rushed by Impis in the mid-game just before you've taken a clear tech lead, and desperately holding out against the onslaught while you beeline rifling
>>338048469
Great song but hard to take seriously like the rest of the huehue civ. It feels weird defending my meme trees from enemy invaders during a carnival while listening to this. His peace theme is very pretty though.
I been waiting to try out this game for a while, but I have my concerns. So, /v/, tell me,does this game let me make robots and develop dank mechanic and robotic technologies?
>>338048829
Yes, but if you've made it that deep into the game and you haven't won yet then you're shit
>>338048162
>What's /v/'s favorite peace theme?
The best peace theme in terms of peacefulness: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_6JdWK3Hnw
The best peace theme in terms of representative glory:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeSpX2RYx6U
>>338048829
It has fusion powered giant death robots.
But unfortunately it doesn't give much variety in units in the most advanced eras.
no one ever wants to be my friend in civ
>>338048059
bruh I'll roll
>>338048939
>>338049057
Sounds good enough for me. Thanks.
>>338049245
Put Polynesia orVenicein your game
>>338022293
Shell the hell out of the city and kill all their units around it. Demand the city as part of making peace, you'll get it without any warmonger penalty.
>>338042032
You talk a lot of smack for someone about to be fucking destroyed.
War.
Okay /v/, let me get your opinion on this. So i haven't played a Civ game since III, but I sunk massive hours into it. I'm looking to get back into the series, so should I buy IV, V or wait for the new installment?
>>338048059
rollando bloom
>>338020487
The One Thousand Rupees Man! I trust him, he got the dough
>>338048059
I'll start this one after the two I'm working on right now.
Gimme something interesting pls
>>338050286
Elephant world conquest it is
>>338049903
You'll have more fun with V, I think. IV and III are very similar, whereas all the big drawbacks of V are things that will make it fresher and more interesting to someone familiar with the earlier games. Might want to wait for it to go on sale again if it's not still ~$10 though.
>>338020603
In the first game, he becomes the evilest ruler ever once he becomes a democracy.
In games after this, he is still the most likely to nuke other nations, but the least likely to become aggressive in the first place.
Nuking gandhi is (mostly) a meme nowadays.
>>338020603
he's a culture-win type of Civ who is a bit sneaky in his goals. he tends to make himself a pest in passive-aggressive ways, particularly if he gets enough votes in World Congress to propose anything.
in addition to being a World Congress pest, he can also become a religious pest as well.
the nuke thing is actually kind of toned down in Civ 5 ... he doesn't really go aggro, but heaven help anyone who messes with him if you've turned off culture and science wins for options on Deity. Ghandi will backstab your ass eventually ... but they all tend to do that if you're playing a long game of total military domination.
>>338022836
>never goes to war with you
do you mean won't fight alongside you, or won't DoW you? because she totally DoWs people and you ... unfortunately she's not super-sneaky about it and you can get wind of her treachery ahead of time most every time.
>>338020603
The whole thing originated from a bug where he was programmed to be so peaceful there was an overflow and he came out the other side. It's not so much that he's a treacherous fuck as it is that he's programmed to overreact to the smallest things.
>>338030552
>yfw you spawn in a continent with Alexander
I just restart the whole thing, fuck dealing with his broken bullshit that keeps allowing him to buy out city states and land with -243 gold every turn.
>>338048469
(USER WAS DECLARED WAR UPON FOR THIS POST)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHbXHIrpq6s
>>338048162
and if you don't care for mods (I love them but some don't) ...
time your wars either on defense or offense to where you're liberating a city that was someone else's (either city-state or another AI's city) in-between a couple takeovers of the aggressing Civ you're looking to obliterate.
in other words, take over a warring Civ's city or two, then liberate one they took over from someone else.
the liberation rolls back the warmonger points racked up from taking another's cities.
and whatever you do, especially in BNW, don't wipe out a Civ. let some other AI take over a final city of someone else ... that's a much greater penalty in warmonger points.
just peace-out when they have one city left and you should be fairly copacetic with the world if you timed it right.
bonus round of advice - what if it's a Civ that hasn't taken over any lands?
let another AI take them over, particularly one you're friends with. so do the sieging and shelling of city defense, and let them get one of their melee units in for the killing blow.
the other Civ will get the heat for it, and you'll mostly be okay in the world opinion.
and if you really wanted that city ... just pay for it from your Civ buddy ... they're expensive to purchase from another Civ, but it can be done rather easily past the Medieval era when you unlock all your gold-generating stuff.
>>338024475
100%.
>>338051662
Alexander is a highly-competitive pest of maximum ass-pain. whatever you do, he wants to do. It goes beyond his CS trait ... he's a general bag of dicks, and his AI is pretty good for trolling.
I tend to stick around when he's nearby though because if you happen to not be the weakest link on a continent, he won't immediately attack you in the early game.
By the time he gets to the mid-game, everyone pretty much hates him, so it isn't difficult to convince other neighbor Civs to want to coalition-stomp him.
If City State AI was actually worth a shit militarily, he'd be a major scourge, but it isn't (they generally get in the way with their military units and have even less concept of attacking other Civs ... they primarily use their units for defense of their CS which is logical but at the same time worthless for a collective CS-based allied attack).
>>338023446
>Civ 2
Listen here, you fucking fucker of fucks.
I LOVE CIV II and I can't make it FUCKING WORK. And now you reminded me.
(I agree with your ranks except CIV V with all expansions is probably better than Civ IV... it's hard to say)
I need all the DLC that adds civs to the game to use the CBP? I'll just wait for the summer sale.
>>338024598
Yea, Civ IV was /v/'s top pick but I think once the expansions came out, V beat it.
Also:
>>338024669
It's a hard choice but I'd think V is better and I HAVE played IV for a long time before I got V.
>>338050531
alright, thanks. does the game go on sale often?
>>338025275
You forgot unraveling the story BEHIND the game via research and building buildings, etc.
>>338042032
Savage.
>>338053157
1upt makes for better war-play ultimately. the terrain advantages and disadvantages matter more, you can flank units, and it's not a simple matter of stacking a megazord unit of doom.
people who argue that carpets of doom = stacks of doom miss the finer intricacies of 1upt generally. and while the AI only tends to do carpets for sophistication, a skilled live Civ player can easily defeat any said carpet unless they're sieged on all fronts by multiple AIs.
>>338049294
don't forget XCom units, the cheat mode of V, which allow 40-tile paradrops that the AI can't even into using.
that's my biggest disappoint with XCom tech ... if the AI knew how to handle it, that would be a great equalizer, but I have yet to see an AI in a post-game or conquest-only option ever drop 4-5 XComs on a target city.
And until XCom units were added, Giant Death Robots were the ultimate cheat mode unit in the late game.
At least if the AI has GDRs they know how to use them since it's not much different in programming from that of a horse unit. The AI understands flanking and horse units, so they use them just the same.
RELIGION OF PEACE
>>338048106
The Mongolian war theme is real nice as well
Really dark and depressing, but pumps you up for war at the same time
>>338053714
Stacks of doom were fine with me honestly, except some of the fights were a bit stupid and made no sense (vastly obselete units beating stronger units). I think I prefer carpets though.
>>338052232
Man, Genghis is almost totally broken in BNW.
Provided he's not your direct neighbor, every game among AI plays out pretty much the same.
1) Genghis is geared toward attacking City States and taking them over.
2) AI Civs haaaate CS hostile takeovers (the penalty iirc is greater than taking over an AI Civ's city).
3) By Medieval, Genghis is almost universally shunned by the world, and at that point the other AIs are all asking you and scheming to coalition-fuck Genghis into bolivian
4) Only saving grace for Genghis is that his Keshiks are pretty buff (not as good as Arabia's Camel Archers but close), so he can defend himself fairly well
5) So it becomes a constant cycle of gang-up on Genghis until the AIs finally manage to stomp him.
Ultimately this broke-dick cycle sucks because if you happen to become friendly with Genghis, the rest of the world will look down upon any friendship, so it's not even worth a DoF without any help to Genghis overall.
>>338052232
Mah Khan
>>338054936
Yeah they both have their merits but carpets and the actual variation of units ultimately beat stacks for fun.
>>338055151
>1932 AD
Holy shit.
>>338020487
I hate CIV VI graphics.
So cartoonish.
RIPFIRAXIS
>>338022253
And that face when you declare war.
That snob face.
>>338022538
Samurai's hate themselves
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>>338022836
>Knows catherine would betray
>Still tries to be friends
Me, Why do I always stuck on the friend zone?
>Declares war
WHY DO YOU HATE ME? I LOVE YOU!
>>338036774
>Ghengis
What are you talking mate.
>>338020487
I never see him in my games. I always have the max number of AI but I cant honestly ever remember playing against him.
>>338055627
beta confirmed
this is classic female frenemy behavior, which is interesting because she considers you an enemy and rival in a female sense.
>so beta that your masculinity isn't even recognized by Russia
I feel for you famalam because I'm not a psycho, but you gotta learn to handle that bullshit like a boss.
pic related
>>338048469
No.
This is best.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-pfAMWVV-o
>>338055926
>>338055926
forgot the image lol
>>338020603
He always gets evaporated by the other civ's by the time I meet him and his one remaining city.
Bismarck was always more of a problem, the traitorous cunt.
How the fuck am I supposed to play this game? The AI can seemingly put towns everywhere, yet my happiness turns to shit if I try.
>>338055926
>>338056027
I just friended her because I'm about +1000 above points to her. I'm gonna post pic later.
It's like mutual cooperation.
>>338056242
oh yeah no doubt you can actually be friends with Catherine, and any AI Civ for that matter. I don't doubt that in the slightest.
But Catherine will always be plotting behind your back ... she's just terrible at keeping it a secret. You can see it coming usually well before anything actually happens. Plus other AI spies will readily notify you ... and she has a habit of non-do-it-yourself plotting that involves others and therefore spy AI gets wind of it easily.
I've rolled with Catherine and her glorious 2x strat bonus multiple times. She city-spams so inevitably she'll have tons of whatever strat you need to trade with her for cooperation.
>>338056679
>But Catherine will always be plotting behind your back
All the AI will stab you in the back, I think I've only had one or two games where it's never happened.
>>338056679
>>338056242
This is not Catherine, but Theodora (on this game). But I still employ tactics.
>Catherine backstabs
That's why I'm building nukes, building military units near her capital, etc. (Same goes to Theodora)
>>338056216
1) are you playing on Deity or above-Prince
>probably yes
2) are you not aware of the bonuses AI gets while playing on Chieftain difficulty against you
>definitely yes
http://www.civfanatics.com/civ5/difficulties
on higher difficulty levels you're playing for 'difficulty' with hands tied behind your back while the AI gets more arms more or less.
so if you wanna win on those levels, you're ultimately going to have to play tall and not wide (max 4-5 cities you build yourself).
it's impossible to keep up with city-spam with the AIs on higher difficulty because they start out with more units than you from the get, and they can build more units faster than you.
>>338056216
~4 towns is usually best case scenario anyway. Look out for great town spots with
>Resources, preferably ones you don´t have yet
>fish tiles often make for very good tiles
>next to rivers, mountains or the coast (You should always have coastal cities)
>defended by mountains, hills and/or other rough terrain so you can´t get attacked from all sides
Also the more towns you have the more research costs.
Ghandi has been pretty aggressive in some of my games, but not all. The biggest blow from a traitor I've ever had was from Washington and China, actually. China and I were bros all game, America was a third wheel but almost the same bro tier as China had been. Suddenly both of them tried to fuck me over but I was the only one with nukes.
>>338022836
Besides her, which other girls should I add in a game?
And should I play as Egypt or America?
>>338056813
Correct, if you are doing a long-play game where you have plenty of time to go for domination, eventually it'll come down to you and your buddy AI left ... and they'll immediately turn against you.
I did this a few times ... setting it up so where it's just one ruler to dominate the world type longplay game ... one time I had Rome as a bro, and they were more than happy DoW'ing everyone I wanted to surgically-eliminate whenever I got to that point. They rolled with me over them, every time.
And when the final rival was destroyed in full ... immediate hostility, the very next turn.
>>338057337
Egypt if you like wonders
America if you like having gold too much and buying land.
>>338041846
>finally did all 4 victory types using minimal mods (NQ and the occasional mod-in Civ)
>tried CBP a few weeks ago, had fun but Arabia beat me to Culture, overall was entertaining but overwhelming at first
>ready to be done with Civ for a while and play vanilla WoW
>see this and remember how chill the AI was in my aforementioned CBP game
>want to play Civ again
I try to get out, but they keep pulling me back in. FUCK.
>>338057337
Byzantine chick is pretty hot too. Other than that I can only think of two female leaders: Elizabeth and Boudica and both of them are fuck-ugly.
>>338021169
>>338030552
>Playing glorious nippon empire on archipelago map
>Conquering civs and city states left and right
>Require resources for expansion
>No iron, oil, or uranium on my hemisphere
>Venice has surplus of everything you could possibly want
>Venice controls 4 iron deposits on it's capital ALONE
>Buys out every city state with resources
F U C K Y O U
>>338057517
Also America has the amazing Minutemen who can move like scouts. You can easily rush weaker civs as soon as you have Gunpowder researched.
>>338057563
Also Dido (Carthage) but she´s fucking crazy.
>>338020487
Of course notbonus points if you know which Civ leader says that in response to a bad deal
>>338057563
>Boudicca
7/10
>Elizabeth
6/10, clothes might change that
>Theodora
Semen Demon/10
>Catherine
8/10
>Isabella-chan
7/10, CMCT
>Marie Theresa
grandma/10
>Dido
I fucking hate this bitch, nuke on site/10
>>338057337
Theodora is good to add against if you don't care about religion
Fuck Austria, that shit is useless, she'll eat 2-3 CS and ultimately get stone-aged by other AIs (and you can't undo Venice or Austria's peaceful CS eating)
England and Portugal are good testy resting bitch face rivals, and they're both naval-capable so if you have a coastal cap be prepared for their mid-game bullshit
Spain is a toss-up. It's kind of like Theodora, Spain loves their religion-spam. Theodora ultimately imo is a little more respectful and easy to handle in diplomacy ... Spain will generally ignore your requests to keep their filthy missionaries out of your business. And Spain has a nasty habit of plopping a settler right on top your shit despite being halfway across the world, so there's that.
As for Egypt, if you like building Wonders, aw yeah ... but you'll probably start out on shitlands in desert, so your mileage for Wonder-whoring will vary depending upon if you got a start next to a lot of flood plains.
America is Generic Civ until the mid-late game, but their tile-buys are fucking awesome early-on, and their sight bonus is great for harder levels where you might have to deal with an early AI zerg rush.
if you make it to the Renaissance with America, you're golden. manifest that destiny and fucking own the map with plenty of lulz from there.
>>338057261
>Citizens of Belgrade are glad to see Wu-Tang come to their city and become the dominant religion.
