Which is better?
>>337983612
wolfenstein obviously
>>337983612
Wolfenstein for story, Doom for gameplay
>>337983612
TNO
>>337983612
Doom is way better.
No sliding no dual wielding no stupid story
>>337983612
Wolf.
Wolfenstien 100%
>>337983612
Doom, but they're both great.
Wolfenstein unless you like being locked into rooms with enemies teleporting in repeated ad nauseam
Wolfenstien 100% nigga
>>337983612
Doom
>>337983707
>playing games for the story
>>337983612
If DOOM had overheal and better gamepad configuration settings then I'd choose DOOM but Wolfenstein is the better game right now
>>337984306
>Dual wielding shotguns is somehow a negative
>>337984789
>2016
>playing FPS with a gamepad
>>337983612
Shadow Warrior.
>>337983612
Compared to DOOM, TNO is fucking slow. The story is tolerable but they nailed the gunplay in DOOM, plus DOOM2016guy mimicks my view on the story in most shooters: I don't give a fuck
Doom
>>337983707
Wolfenstein story is atrocious
Plus it's a fucking shooter who cares about story
>>337984895
>playing Singleplayer games with mouse/keyboard
Who are you trying to impress?
>>337984708
faggot
>>337984952
Not even close
Wolfenstien seems "better" but DOOM is significantly more fun. So DOOM. More replayable by a mile and refreshingly fast.
DOOM since it has better gameplay.
>>337984789
Wolfenstein overheal is pretty much meaningless though. It ticks down too fast. What the fuck were they thinking this isn't quake 3
>>337983612
D44M
>>337983612
Doom. If I had to rate:
TNO is a 7.5
Doom is a 9
>>337984952
Why is everyone comparing this to Doom and TNO? It's like comparing A racing game to a fighting game
>>337985049
>being an auto-aim babby
I bet your first playthrough wasn't on ultra-violent
The Old Blood
>>337983612
D44m > Shadow Warrior >>>>>> TNO
>>337983612
They're both the most surprisingly good games I've played in a long time
New Wolfenstein when?
Blazkowicz's voice gives me a boner.
>>337983707
>jew concrete
>peanut-butter american complaining that americans are just like nazis
>more jew tech hidden deep in the ocean
>nazis are bad
what a great story.
>>337985124
That perk which required sneak kills with overheal
TNO all the way
>>337985176
Shadow warrior has more in common with doom than doom has with tno.
>>337985237
>New Wolfenstein
There was Old Blood expansion
>>337985237
Wolfenstein expansion just came out a couple months ago
The Old Blood is better than both
>>337985176
No, it's comparing a reboot of a classic FPS to a reboot of a classic FPS to a reboot of a classic FPS.
>>337985176
Because they're all modern reboots to classic fps games?
DOOM >>> Wolf 3D
RTCW >> DOOM 3 >>>>> WOLF 09
DOOM > TNO
>>337985060
>f-faggot
If they focused 99% on the gameplay instead of the story TNO might have been good, instead we got decent gunplay that was unfortunately ruined by a ham-fisted story and cutscenes. Wolfenstein games always had a minimal story; infiltrate this place destroy the objective / kill the baddie. If they had named the game "Inglorious Bastards" I would have been fine with it because that's what it reminds me of.
>>337983612
>Seriously asking
Of course it's Wolfenstein. Don't get me wrong, Doom is also suprisingly good, but Wolfenstein wins with all the tiny details all over it.
>>337983612
Shadow Warrior
>>337983612
DOOM crack when? I don't want to pay 60$ for a game that probably won't run properly on my PC
>>337985369
>>337985432
be real niggas for something to be classic it would actually have to be popular
shadow warrior is not popular
tno barely qualifies as a reboot the latest game came out 6 years prior
Duke nukem forever
>>337983612
http://www.strawpoll.me/10242011
keep it fair /v/
>>337983612
The intro in Wolfenstein where it jumps 14 years gave me a raging boner. Thought I was gonna play during 1946 the whole game.
And the menu music is god tier
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kur41flzdQ
>>337985459
Finally someone with good taste ITT.
Both are good, but Doom wins because Wolfenstein had a bit too much unnecessary story in it. Not that much that it would ruin it, but enough that the game felt a bit dragging at times.
>>337983612
DOOM is what I wanted TNO to be.
>>337985459
Rollercoaster tycoon world isn't even out yet and retards are already saying it's better than other games
>>337984952
I would have liked it otherwise, but the guns felt too weak. And that's a fatal flaw in a game like that.
>>337985531
What are you trying to run it on, a toaster?
>>337985857GTX 750
>>337985176
No it isn't. Both are shooters and despite the far lengthier plot bits, Wolf TNO and TOB's fighting parts are very much in the same spirit - Open arenas with caches of armor and ammo lying around, and there's even a large melee takedown focus in both (with extra health gained too, like in Doom). Larger fights in TNO will involve the more sci-fi enemies like drones, Ubersoldats or Panzerhunds alongside smaller regular nazi enemies and they can feel quite a bit like combat set pieces from the new Doom. The set piece before the tram in TOB is a great example, there's easily 30+ enemies on that section
>>337985845
>that's a fatal flaw in a game like that.
More like flaw in marketing, the game was clearly aiming to be more melee than shooting action
>>337985845
It's designed around the sword, the guns are there to weaken massive hordes of weak enemies
>>337984952
Patrician taste you got there, anon. Shadow Warrior was the fucking shit. The sequel comes out this year too.
>>337986156
>The sequel comes out this year too.
>open world
>side quests
>randomly generated
>gameplay looks fucking great
not sure how to feel
>People saying Wolfenstein
>Cutscenes everywhere
>"Stealth" sections
>Retarded AI which walks into walls and can't see the player unless he is virtually next to them
>Boss fights which need to be done in a specific way
>Energy weapons continually requiring a recharge
>Having to press E to pick up each individual weapon, health pack or armor piece
>Weapons which are completely imbalanced, the grenade launcher is practically required to take down the hardest enemies or else you will die
>Ridiculous underwater jew and nazi space segments
>Linear as fuck
>The entire opening sequence on the plane
The New Order was a fucking disgrace but because of the Kaiden / Ashley styled introductory choice people are willing to defend it
Only thing I didn't like about TNO was being forced into stealth because storming everything while dual wielding shotguns wouldn't get you far
>>337985926
What's the point even? You might as well burn cash
>>337983612
Wolf was pretty gud but focused on story too much, to the point that it got in the way of gameplay
Doom doesn't give that much of a fuck about story and is 99% about gameplay
so Doom
>>337985237
Knowing Bethesda they'll try to get id to make a new quake
>>337986387
What does that have to do with new wolfenstein though, id didn't make that.
>>337986387
>>337986453
wolfenstein is id's property
>>337986325
If it can run on a PS4, it can definitely run on my PC, the GPU is by far the weakest part
![FD4D95AAF4ADCE96E8043D3DF4BEE843788FAC2F[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/bVkkFc6.jpg "FD4D95AAF4ADCE96E8043D3DF4BEE843788FAC2F[1].jpg")
>>337983612
Doom because it canonizes hDoom.
>>337986238
It's got co-op, too. I'm fucking stoked because the levels aren't going to be linear like the 2013 release. Can basically double jump my way across rooftops however the fuck I want while using claws to snikt some bubs and whatnot.
It looks ridiculously good. Hopefully there's a good stand-in for Hoji, too. He was a bro. Broji.
Why did Doom look so shitty in the trailers, but turn out so good?
>>337985269
Perhaps the silliness of TNO is its own charm. Although yeah, SECRET JEW SCIENCE IS IT REAL OR FAKE is absurd as fuck.
>>337984306
>shitting on dual-wielding auto shotguns
It's like you don't want to turn everyone into fine red mist. There were stuff I didn't like in TNO but Dual Wielding and some of the movement options weren't bad at all.
>>337986658
The trailers were mostly multiplayer? And not actual gameplay from the campaign
>>337985331
Anon... Time flies. The expansion: The Old Blood has been out since last year May.
![1232532-quake-desktop-wallpapers[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/JGIdjHz.jpg "1232532-quake-desktop-wallpapers[1].jpg")
2018
>>337986658
Trailer showed off the worst parts of the game to please the Brutal Doom gore whores
>>337986658
They were focusing on the glory kills too much, and even though they said "You really don't have to do these, you guys" nobody actually believed them, myself included. Turns out you actually DON'T need to do them, but they're still worth doing when you have the "Longer glory kill trigger range, faster glory kill animation, haste after glory kill" rune setup. You rip and tear some little imp with an animation that's faster than the Doom 1 fist and then you use the speed boost to shove your cock in a thicc mancubus.
>>337985459
Was Wolf '09 that bad?
>>337986943
My perception of time is going to complete shit
jesus christ
>>337983707
>wolfen(((stein))) for story
>>337987224nno
>>337987224
It really wasn't bad, but it didn't have much to separate it at the time from the sea of endless brown n bloom shooters with iron sights and progression. Just came across as bland.
>>337987151
If they make a new Quake and it goes back to the Quake 1 style of weird-ass levels and dimension hopping with Cthulhu shit instead of Quake 2 and beyond's dumbass strogg I will be so happy anonymous.
So happy.
>>337985269
This. I put it down around the time Jimmy Hendricks and BJ got high together.
>>337987364
It wont though, quake the shooter was never meant to be medieval cosmic horror clusterfuck, that setting was reserved for an entirely different game
>>337987364
I guarantee Quake is definitely next up on the list for id. especially if doom is received well enough.
>>337987520
Shh anon, no reality. Only dreams now.
>>337987364
The Templar Knights from Doom 4 really look like some shit out of Quake. Maybe we'll get a cross-over/teaser in the upcoming DLC/sequel.
>>337987224
I didn't like it. Hub based pseudo open world design outside of missions just killed the pace for me. Guns didn't feel great.
Who owns hexen?
Hexen 3 when?
I liked the story in TNO mostly because I loved all the characters and their interactions.That shit with the nurse and the diary got me misty.I haven't even played the timeline with Tekla or Old Blood yet but the story was on point to me.
>>337987635
And maybe the robed figure looking over the Doom Guy in that one drawing will be related to Heretic/Hexen.
THE HAPPENINGS HAVE ONLY JUST BEGUN
>>337983612
They are basically on the same level. Wolfenstein for story though, it has a LOT of alternate history awesome crap in it. Doom has amazing visuals though and faster paced combat.
A lot of people mistake TNO's story for other parts of its narrative. The actual plot was pretty boring, but BJ was such a lovable goofball psycho that it made up for everything else. His grizzly and occasionally psychopathic monologues contrasted his persistent dumbness made him really fun. The alt history was usually interesting too. Other than that, the story was very bland "resistance is good; Nazi bad" fare.
>>337984708
Shitty hair
>>337984952
Fun but all but the pistol and sword felt like shit.
>>337987520
Sometimes I still wish the OG id team got to make that original Quake concept of you being the most OP Motherfucker Ogre ever with you beating up medieval monsters and maybe Lovecraftian horrors.
>>337987749
Is Raven Software still alive? Are they still stuck being a support dev crew for Multiplayer shooters?
>>337987816
> Hexen remake complete with really shitty switch hunts complete with switches that "open a door... somewhere"
You know what? Fuck it, fund it why not
>>337987816the robed figure is you
>>337988030
Raven software is owned by activision
Does that mean what i think it means
>>337987816
Isn't it kind of up for debate just who the armored robe guy is? Like isn't it possible that the Doom 4 guy is actually an ancient immortal being considering you start off chained up in a sarcophagus?
>>337988170
>>337983612
Doom for map design and no reload, Wolfenstein TNO for everything else.
The New Blood sucks ass, but still fun 5.5/10 nonetheless.
>Wolfenstein sequel that subtly hints that Hitler's scientists has successfully completed an Argent accumulator prototype
>Mecha-Hitler and the occult return
>>337988361
>tno has better combat than d44m
nigga
>>337988437
>prototype Doomguy is a secret boss
>you can't win
>>337988437
>Mecha-Hitler and the occult return
> Except in the German version
:^)
>>337988453
Bro, nothing can beat sliding while dual wielding combat shotgun to shot a nazi.
>>337987151
But this game would have to actually have multiplayer worthy of the Quake name. That's a challenge way harder than to mimic a classic FPS campaign.
>>337988310
It's possible. Some anons have been debating it but the game doesn't exactly spell it out definitively. The two main theories are either you're some ancient medieval badass Doom Guy who ran around hell forever until they dropped a temple on you, or you're the Doom 1/2/64 Doom Guy and there's a single hell that touches multiple dimensions and you got your super Doom Slayer immortal powers at some point in Doom 1 or 2, probably 1 where you die and go to hell in episode 1.
>>337988606
They have the engine, and the mechanics are probably already there. It's all in how they'll implement itor how they'll not butcher it
Should it happen, of course.
>>337988606
Outsource it to the Doom communityHave Esselfortium lead the development of multiplayer
>>337985845
>>337987921
But the gunplay in SW was amazing
Delete your awful posts
>>337988606
D44m multiplayer is closer to a classic arena shooter than its singleplayer is to a classic campaign though.
Be honest with me here. Should I buy DOOM right now?
>>337988886
nobody knows how much neetbux you got faggot
>>337988845
I barely used the guns in Shadow Warrior. Mostly used the sword
>>337988886
if you got the money go for it, it's great. if you're thrifty, hold off until a sale.
>>337988886
If you can still get it from key sellers for around $30 sure. If you're talking $60, no. As much as I'm enjoying it I wouldn't say it's worth $60 since the multiplayer's pretty bad and snapmap is still really iffy.
>>337988886
its gonna win goty awards out the ass
im having so much fun
How long is the campaign ~ in Doom?
There are a number of unknown characters who were referenced in nuDoom that we know nothing about
>The Titan
Some super demon that almost proved to be a challenge for Doomguy and was the final straw before Hell decided this guy was too much for them
>The Seraphim
Probably all there is to it. A holy being that gave Doomguy his speed and physical strength to aid in his unholy genocide.
>The "Unmentionable" Demon
A rogue demon who aided Doomguy by giving him demonic armor and a demonic sword (assumed to be the Crucible)
>>337988845
The gunplay? Fuck no, that shit was awful. The swordplay was great though.
>>337989207
exactly 10 hours
>>337989207
About 8 hours for me. Didn't go secret hunting though, so I missed a lot of shit.
![2FAFB513BAEBFA2427C35717474F2178E73113F8[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/FeFxfCs.jpg "2FAFB513BAEBFA2427C35717474F2178E73113F8[1].jpg")
>>337989207
Probably 6-10 hours on ultraviolence not obsessively secret hunting. 15-20 hours on nightmare and obsessively secret hunting.
>>337989238
The titan is most likely Bubba here.
![25-m14_motherdemon[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/YEAe9N8.jpg "25-m14_motherdemon[1].jpg")
>>337989238
Titan is Mother Demon
>>337989238
isn't the titan the the final boss from Doom 2?
>>337989207
~8-12 hours depending on ez to nightmare, secret hunting, and weapon point unlocks.
>>337989207
If you just follow the mission objectives, you can finish each map in 15-20 minutes
![1447535399985[1].webm](https://i.imgur.com/aZGKtRT.jpg "1447535399985[1].webm")
Why were there tons of sarcophagi laying around the UAC?
What happened to all their bodies?
Who the fuck else is Hell keeping entombed?
>>337989350
where the fuck is this in the game?
>>337989238
If they make a Doom 5 I wouldn't mind seeing them put the Icon of Sin in somewhere. It may have been a let down in Doom 2 but considering they wouldn't be dealing with the technical limitations of the original Doom engine it could be pretty neat.Also pants shittingly terrifying
>>337989416
Doom 2's final boss is one of the most iconic video game bosses if only because its so shitty, how do you not know this
>>337989659
Icon of Sin is in Doom 4
>>337983707
>he plays VIDEOGAMES for the story
>>337989653
The crucible. The map just before Vega-core.
>>337989659
Bruh, look up. >>337989350
>>337989659
Doom 3 has an icon of sin in it. It's slightly better but still shit. Yeah it's a mod but can't imagine it being any better if a professional did it.
>>337989723
Yeah I just noticed that. Disregard what I just said. I'm a faggot who loves dicks and just can't seem to get enough dicks shoved in my anus at the same time to satisfy me
>>337989350
I found the Icon, but how did you get it to shoot cubes? Do they spawn monsters?
>>337989578
The Doom Slayer - Slayer
>>337989723
>>337989783
you don't fight it
>>337989831
I did what any self respecting Doom Guy would do and whipped out my rocket launcher and shot him in the brain, which made THE NOISE and launched the cube.Just one cube, and it spawns one of the Doom Guy toys. Also counts as a secret.
>>337989952
>THE NOISE
demon voice or the scream?
I like both.
I would be asspained at the cost of DOOM but I got that TNO expansion with it so whatever
>>337989238
you see the remains of the titan in one of the hell levels, I think. Some say it is the icon of sin from doom 2.
>>337990036
The "FWEEESH" sound when it launches a cube.
>>337990036
>>337990127
It also does the backwards voice right before launching the cube.
>>337990127
lame
>>337983612
>Wolfenstein, An original game with an amazing story
>DOOM, Now including master chief DLC
Obvious.
>>337990329
>Hellshot, Vortex Rifle, Static Rifle, and Lightening Gun aren't in the campaign
Seriously, the last 2-3 levels could have used a new weapon, demon, mechanic, or something. It was fun but the momentum was really slowing down.
>>337989783
I'd prefer something more... alive. Something that looks like a hideous abomination of flesh and machinery hooked up on a sort of life support system that's writhing and thrashing around. The ending text describes the icon of sin with limbs thrashing about, destroying Hell as it dies. I'm thinking a the upper body of a gargantuan demon that makes Doomguy look like an ant fused to the wall with tubes extruding from it and giant limbs that could easily swat you like a fly.
>>337990036
The backwards "you have to kill john romero to win the game" voice.
DOOM
>>337990416
Wait, Lightning Gun ain't in the main campaign? That's a shame. Back in beta that was my favorite weapon.
>>337990086
That really wouldn't make sense though. If it took place after Doom 2 then there wouldn't be a Hell because the Icon of Sin basically destroyed Hell when it died.
Wolfenstein is better overall, especially comparing Uber to Nightmare difficulty. Doom's Nightmare difficulty is literally just monster damage turned up.
It took me half the game to realize that it's pointless to save ammo in D44m for the more powerful guns since the game literally shits it out at every corner
Disappointing
>>337990723
Enemies are a lot more aggressive in Nightmare as well. They never stop fucking moving and jumping around. Plus, they use their "super" attacks more often.
>>337988775
>outsource Quake to the Doom community
Why not the fucking Quake community??
>>337990672
>"Hell has many dimensions, Doomboy"
>>337983612
Doom of course this isn't even a fair fight op.
>>337990854
>Quake community
Good joke anon
>>337988863
Kinda backwards senpai. D44MP is 2 weapon limit spawn loadout bullshit. That's as far from classic arena shooter as it gets.
Fucking Halo is closer to a classic arena shooter than that shit.
>>337983612
wolfenstein was fun
DOOM wasn't
i'm calling this now but bethesda's gonna head down the path of EA
>>337990723
>Uber
anybody experience the glitch where all weapon/ammo/health items disappear in the map upon death or loading last checkpoint? The map right after BJ crashlands on earth after fucking up the moon base
Both are great. I like Wolfenstein more.
TNO feels like a sequel while being extremely faithful at the same time.
DOOM is blatant pandering.
>>337990959
Yes, they make crazy fucking shit.
>>337991032
>i'm calling this now but bethesda's gonna head down the path of EA
Actually make good games?
>>337991150
>DOOM is blatant pandering.
Did you even play it?
It has it's flaws, but was far from "blatant pandering"that might have just been bait and I'm getting to old to understand it.
Ultra-Violence or Nightmare?
>>337989238
>The Seraphim
My headcanon is that the demons made this shit up because they had no way to explain how Doomguy could keep kicking their asses without some kind of divine help.
>>337991283
I assume he's talking about the merry little E1M1 jingles on the collectables, the original games secret maps, the songs that are redone versions of the original songs, the less direct references like still-beating hearts sitting on pedestals and strung up and mutilated barons of hell, etc.
>>337990086
>>337991401
I started on ultra-violence and wish I was on nightmare 3/4 of the way through the game.
>>337991401
Nightmare if you fully want to git gud, UV if you wanna rip and tear without playing for maximum efficiency (Which is to say using the super shotty 99% of the time against everything) for funsies.
>>337991283
Did you even read my post? I like both games a lot. I just like Wolfenstein more because it feels like natural evolution of the series instead of DOOM's "uhh people like doom 1 and 2 more than 3 so let's do that again but prettier."
>>337991429
>headcanon
>>337984952
Linear garbage.
>>337991542
I'm starting on Nightmare and getting annoyed by every hit doing 50+ damage.
>>337991401
Ultra Violence for first playthrough seems alright, Nightmare is pretty challenging, tho I am trying ultra-nightmare right now and god damn I can't get past the second level.
>>337991608
Since the Seraphim is not really mentioned outside the Slayer's Testaments what else is there?
>>337991401
I played on ultra-violenceI thought nightmare was locked because it was red
>>337984857
You got a point there
>>337991429
>IDDQD
>>337991726
same here anon
what exactly is d44m guy supposed to be? he's clearly not a regular human
>>337984857
Well it makes the double barrel fucking useless for one
>>337992002
A regular human who's had a whole lifetime of kicking Hell's ass, leaving hell, then doing it all over again, which has slowly eroded his mind until now where he knows nothing but violence.
>>337988715
I like to think that you're the doom guy from the end of Doom 2 in the new Doom. When you killed the massive demon at the end of 2 it states you're trapped in hell. The demons in hell, fearing your power trap you in the sarcophagus and since time passes different in the hell dimensions it's like thousands of years have passd for you.
UAC come reclaim thier wrecked Mars base and start experiments with hell energy and that's where the new doom starts.
>>337992105
he is too strong to be human
>>337990416
Yeah, I didn't understand that either. It would have been great to have a few more guns to play around with. Otherwise you really only end up using the same 3-4 weapons anyway, with half of the weapon mods since some of them are so situational they're useless.
>>337992120
it is. Doom 1, 2, and apparently 64, are all canon, in fact, all the wads are too, and this is that same doomguy. this is just another universe he's woken up in
Neither, as they have both been dead since Doom 2 and Wolfenstein 3D respectively.
Not a single game in either series since has been on the same level. They're done and dead shovelware shit now.
>>337992105
I don't think he knows nothing but violence. He's so pissed at Hayden because he knows exactly what fucking happened. The UAC is pulling their shit again, and they didn't learn the first time. That's why he smashes the communicator. The demons are loose and he has to clean up their fucking mess. It's why he destroys their tech. He doesn't want them trying to get into Hell again.
>>337992152
Demon lore states that Doomguy was blessed by The Seraphim who gave him his strength and speed. He was given his armor from a traitorous demon.
>>337992284
doom 64 was better than doom 2
>>337992294
>I don't think he knows nothing but violence.
Then why is he so mean to Upgrade Bot-chan?
Doom crack when?
>>337992002
>very strong ass kicking human
>rips and tears through hell several times
>decides to stay in hell and fight demons for all eternity
>god decides that he's a pretty cool guy, high fives him, and imbues him with speed and strength
>some demon who doesn't want to get punched to death by Doomguy decides to betray his kind and make him a suit imbued with demonic power
>Doomguy spends an eternity kicking demon ass until finally the demons say fuck this
>seal him into some sarcophagus, Doom 4 happens sometime after that
I think that's what happened anyway. I've seen some things saying hes one of the night sentinels too.
>>337992453
Because he doesn't have time for its bullshit. The bot isn't going to give up the weapon mod without "payment" and Doomguy clearly has no credit.
>>337992284
>implying RTCW and also ET weren't based as fuck
>>337987520
And yet it turned out a better setting than what they ended up going with.
>>337992490
Denever
>>337992562
But you already paid anyway using upgrade points.
>>337992453
Also he fistbumps the Doomguy-colored Doombuddy figure. He's the only one left he can trust.Also, VEGA apparently. I'm guessing VEGA will be Doomguy's Cortana in the next entry.
>>337992453
because fuck that little shit. he deserves to be punched by doomguy for only letting him take one weapon mod at a time.
>>337983612
Wolfenstein by far. Doom was an embarrassment.
>>337984708
>>337985048
>>337987329
>>337989758
hey /v/ do i fit in yet? xdxd
>>337992676
You don't pay for weapon mods at all. The drone says "Purchase" but you have nothing to purchase them with. Doomguy just steals the mod he wants.
It's pretty subtle and pretty funny.
>>337992640
Lovecraftian themes are severely underused or at least misused so it's not difficult to make something interesting out of it, plus the medieval thing fits right in with it
>>337985072
I tried replaying TNO in parts to get 100%, but every single chapter starts with a long "you have camera control" (read: you can't skip this) cutscene. DOOM has a few, but they're all in the first few levels.
>>337992794
Well maybe if he was nice to it it would let him get more than one. But no, his first thank you was a fist to the eye sensor, and so he became a stingy little fuck in return
>>337992868
Then what are the upgrade points for? Just the suit?
>>337985049
>impress
if you play with autoaim you literally arent even playing the game
>>337992868
>The drone says "Purchase"
Where? When?
>>337992928
Weapon upgrade points upgrade the weapon mods you steal from the Drones. Suit upgrade points upgrade your suit abilities.
>>337992531
If the story stays that simple. future games might actually stay good
>>337987224
no, and if it was released today it'd be better received than TNO
ROTT 2013
Shadow Warrior fags need not apply. Your game is slow and and full of memes.
>>337992976
When you're selecting a mod from the Drones. You click the one you want and click "Purchase" at the bottom, or "Cancel".
>>337985272
Half the perks were annoying. If you don't get the "2 kills 1 grenade" perk in the prologue, it's a BITCH to get it later. Mid-game enemies don't die to one grenade half the time, so you have to damage two guys, hope they stay near each other, while under fire, then hope neither can dodge the grenade.
>>337984708
Classic Jojo poster being a retard memer
>>337993090
ROTT was so faithful to the original that it only reminded everyone that the original was terrible.
>>337986658
The game's marketing was basically Beth shooting themselves in the foot.
>singleplayer footage has a slower pace than the actual game
>more focus on less-than-stellar multiplayer
>disastrous beta
I think you guys should buy both
>>337993049
if there are any doom games in the near future they are obviously going to stay simple, who knows what the next reboot will look like though
>>337993253
I should have trusted you, Marty. Bethesda really pulled a Nintendo and did a fucking terrible job at showcasing what turned out to be a fantastic game.
>>337986658
bad marketing
>>337993060
Absolutely not.
It was literally a world at war port in the Wolfenstein universe. It was ass.
>>337993090
Pretty much what >>337993209 said
Jesus fucking christ the devs could've at least picked a more interesting franchise if they were going full autist on it
>>337993425
The devs responsible for ROTT were originally planning on Duke Nukem 3D Reloaded. Gearbox stopped them.
>>337983612
the peak of doom's difficulty became midgame i feel, towards the end you had too many upgrades and weapons to get into trouble. then the final boss comes so abruptly it's almost anti-climatic and ending is supposed to be some kind of cliffhanger/sequel bait.
still a better game than tno by far.
>>337986658
Either
>Fuckin' Bethesda/Zenimax/Marketing
That or they focused too much on Multiplayer and Glory Kills, which did feel shitty.
>>337993531
Apparently, from what I've read, Gearbox is also being a massive fuckwad about the rights to Douk
>>337993339
Marty haha who's that?
I'm just a friendly /v/ user!
Did you guys try out SnapMap™ i think it's awesome!
>>337987520
>quake the shooter was never meant to be medieval cosmic horror clusterfuck
Quake the "shooter" was never supposed to be a thing. Quake 2 was originally going to be its own ip.
>>337993807
I hear snapmap has a 12 monster and 2 weapon limit
Friendly /v/ user please tell me this is bullshit
>>337992531
>We can't kill him! Its unpossible!
>Holy shit we actually managed to trap the fucker.
>Better keep him alive just in case.
>>337993807
You seem more of a better guy than that Todd fellow.
>>337985049
Some people actually find keyboard+mouse controls more comfy than a controller.
>>337993990
That would mean sending someone in to kill him. Not possible.
>>337983612
Doom is a game with absolutely no personality, made by a team of incompetent and passionless nobodies. Everything about the game is shoddy. The animations, enemy designs, sound effects, half-assed approach to the "old school" gameplay, etc. It is the biggest example yet of a bad game that is being carried by the name slapped on the box.
Wolfenstein actually had some intelligence and creativity behind it. It's a memorable game that seems like it was made by people who cared. For that alone it is a hundred times better than Doom.
>>337993978
Not sure about monsters but the 2 weapon limit is real. But it can be bypassed, apparently.
>>337993990
demons are like the space pirates of the Doom universe.
>>337994094
Someone managed to stuff him into the treasure chest and got his jammies ready for when he woke up.
>>337985176
Shadow Warrior 2013 and Doom 2016 are VERY similar games, actually.
>>337983612
Wolfenstein is a great reimagining of an action packed classic.
Doom is a great great reboot bringing classic fps design into the modern era.
Both are great. Buy and play them.
>>337993990
>>Better keep him alive just in case.
well, I mean, they tried killing him already.
he just ended up in hell. if they kill him he'll just go to hell and they are back at square 1
>>337993996
I know right? He was giving Fallout™ 4 a bad name.
>>337991682
What if Seraphim is the player.
>>337994109
Did denuvo rip and tear your bumhole anon
>>337983612
I enjoyed TNO, but it is a bit overrated by people here. The emphasis on plot was a double edged sword; while the characters were surprisingly likeable, the story was poor and it hurt the pacing quite a bit. The enemy designs were also fairly weak and the difficulty skewed low. It was still a solid game, and far better than the awful 2009 Wolfenstein, but Doom tops it in pretty much every way.
I am hoping we get more Wolfenstein from MachineGames though.
I like how Rise of The Triad was easily the fastest game posted ITT, yet is probably the shittiest in every other regard.
>>337994264
>Doom 2016
>classic FPS design
Fuck off, you 14 year old idiot.
>>337993978
What? i think its a great mechanic to make it more playable for console!
we wouldn't want those folks to be having a bad time now do we?
>>337994298
He even forced us- i MEAN id into putting a skyrim Easter egg into id's game
>>337994279
>Sent to his own personal super-hell
>Everyone is kind and deals with their problems through communication and friendship
>Not a single demon to rip and tear
Can we ever have actually good level design and not just this arena shit like d44m and shadow warrior?
>>337983612
TNO hands down especially with the DLC missions.
It's just a much more interesting game.
