How did they not get sued by From Software?
the salt
>>337976057
I don't get it.
>>337976057
Sufficient disparities between the two games to make it an individual IP unto itself.
But yeah, that's basically a 2D Souls ripoff.
Is it good?
>>337977686
its ok, nothing special
Because it plays like Charlie Murder and The Dishwasher, they just started calling it "2d dark souls" to cash in on the hype
>>337976057
Because no one actually bought the game.
>Wow, I love this game! I wish there was a 2D version of it!
Said no one ever
>>337977181
Literally 2D Souls
-Grimdark
-Bonfires
-Estus flasks
-Equip load
-4 armor slots, 4 ring slots, quick item slots
-Stamina bar
-Block, roll, parry, riposte
-Light and heavy attack
-Can 2-hand weapon, 2 weapon loadouts
-Drop souls on death, must go get it back
-Classes only change your starting gear
-Must switch to staff/talisman to cast spells
-Intricate level design, unlock shortcuts
-Bosses
-Upgrade weapons
-Level up at bonfire
Only difference is that gear isn't stat-dependent, when you level up you progress in a skill tree where you can unlock "wear maces lvl 2, cast magic lvl 3" etc
>>337977686
Better than Dark Souls 3 was, at least.
Refunded the game, has to many issues, can hardly see traps, the fog effect is incredibly annoying. For some reason they thought it would be a good idea to use a sphere grid with ff12 style weapon requirements.
>>337978226
when did you get flasks, i never found those just the stupid rolls/vials.
For the same reason you didn't get sued for your My Little Pony futa fanfiction. Nobody cares.
>>337978447
>can hardly see traps, the fog effect is incredibly annoying
first thing i noticed when i passed the tutorial area.
you cant see shit, everything blends into itself
>>337978226
Literally all of those things are in Castlevania.
Is this the new "halo invented fps" or something? It's like you guys don't even know anything about video games.
>>337977686
It's pretty good, seriously having DS vibes from it. I keep using my fucking flask instead of attacking because it's on R1. I wonder if I should rebind to DS keys.
Also some castlevania platforming, with falling floors etc, although I don't suppose it will get a major element
Seems fairly open, after the first dungeon I have 2 areas to go to
>>337977686
If you like DaS you'll probably like it.
![XLXv19X[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/NFwWDaS.jpg "XLXv19X[1].jpg")
>>337976057
If Koei-Tecmo can make Toukiden, I see no reason why From could sue these guys for this
>>337978598
Surprised? Dark souls is literally castlevaniaxZelda
>>337978226
Can you even copyright game mechanics?
>>337978447
>i never found those just the stupid rolls/vials.
The covenant you join changes the icon of the "etsus" healing item. One is rolls, another is flasks, and so on. It's just a cosmetic difference.
Also
>can hardly see traps
Are you fucking kidding me. It wouldn't be a trap otherwise, genius.
>>337978447
>when did you get flasks, i never found those just the stupid rolls/vials.
You literally get them when you light the first sanctuary bonfire.
You have 3 gods to choose from at the beginning, each give you different flasks (the Three gods give you a normal flask, the goddess of light give you a smaller flask with a defense buff, dunno about the 3rd one (barbarians) probably a dmg buff)
>>337978603
>although I don't suppose it will get a major element
>laughing skeletons.jpg
>>337978598
Halo did invent the FPS genre though. Why else would id copy Bungie's design?
Hadn't heard of this game before but it looks incredibly lame.
>>337978818
wish that was pointed out
>>337978598
What? Literally none of those things are in castlevania
The only thing similar between Castlevania and DS is the backtracking
>>337978942
Well if it does I'm pleasantly surprised and hype
Wonder if the game is long
>>337979168
I'd guess about 10 hours if you're good and skip optional dungeons and bosses. Longer if you intend on unlocking higher tier equipment and doing the optional areas and quests.
Oh yeah did I mention there's an online message system like in Dark Souls?
You can co-op but only in local I think
>>337979606
>online messages are a dark souls thing
I've been leaving messages for strangers since AIM anon...
>>337979765
Typical fucking From denier with nothing better to do than be contrarian.
>>337978264
>>337978769
Obviously not, this is just shitposting.
>>337977686
It's Soulsvania with a shit artstyle and none of the lore or atmosphere. They do a couple of unique things to stand out (the combos are pretty fun) but mostly it's an ok game.
5/10 in the original 'this game is totally average' sense.
>>337979606
>praise the moon
simply epic
First boss is pretty cool, 3 phases where he becomes more and more agressive and fast
>>337980043
I bet you've never wrote a valentine's day card and left it on a desk for someone either. From didn't invent notes anon
/v/ - copyright experts extraordinaire
>>337976057
It's early yet.
But I doubt it'll happen. You can't copyright game mechanics and the art style is completely different.
>>337978598
It goes as far as to copy UI elements, the ripoff isn't exactly hidden here
>>337980264
Wasn't it Capcom that patented having mini games in place of loading screens? Maybe it was Namco. One of those faggots did and that's why we get cutscenes covering loading instead of cool minigames.
Should I play it if I love 2D platformers/Metroidvanias/action games but have never played a Souls game?
I don't care how much of a "rip off" it is, I just want to know if it's fun.
>>337977686
Nope.
>>337979606
>that face
>>337980692
It's fun. It's really very similar to playing Castlevania. Soulfags are just butthurt that its sanctuaries and salt system is the same as Souls bonfires and souls system.
>>337980542
>That pic
Luka is not for bullying!
>>337980480
now please name some games where a multiplayer gimmick is being able to leave notes, based on predefined lines, which other players may or may not encounter as they approach the area you left your note at
>>337981153
Forgot my comment:
If pic related hasn't been sued then there is no way they'd do it to a company with even less money + game similarities.
Torrent when? I wanna test it before buying it.
I might buy it anyways, just want to know if it might be pirateable any time soon.
>>337978753
THANK YOU
i love dark souls, but this is so true
>>337981274
Literally 5 hours ago, fucking look for it yourself instead of wiping your diaper on 4chan
>>337981447
Ayyy thanks a lot bby.
>>337979765
>>337980480
>>337976057
Because clones aren't illegal. Look at Saints Row. Hell, the image I posted is the hentai Demon's Souls parody Fullflap made.
Literally Bloodborne, too
>>337978598
The only things in Castlevania out of the things listed are bosses, shortcuts and weapon upgrading. Did you even play the games?
OP here, I was merely pretending, can we stop arguing about copyrights
Lets marvel at those dark areas that require torches instead
>>337982204
Good thing the girls look like potatoes, guess I'll do a male for a change.
>>337980264
You can, Nintendo has the Insanity Meter or whatever from Eternal Darkness copyrighted.
>>337981808
It's pretty rare but sometimes companies do go to court over very similar games.
>>337980675
Maybe. DMC and Okami are the only games I can remember having those and they're Capcom's.
>>337982281
Male is LITERALLY the same bro, only the eyes are vaguely different
>>337981920 is a male
Can't say I'm fan of the artstyle, but appart from humans it's pretty decent. Lacks color though
>>337978226
>bosses
actual copy paste boss fights from soulsborne or just that the game has boss fights?
>>337978747
Dont forget nioh (well at least that game does some things different)
>>337982893
Well the game is 2D, I don't really how you could copy paste Dark Soul bosses. You still block and roll and hit them when you get a window.
Here's the first boss
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVzAOl6ahQw&t=1m5s
>>337976057
Is that gwynevere
Don't worry, the game is terrible.
>>337983595
Contemplating getting it. Elaborate
>>337980453
is that sen fortress? it has his own heavy knight
>>337982893
One of them is a shameless ripoff of Gravelord Nito. One of the enemies in the game is a fucking zenomorph. There's a ton of shit knocked off.
>>337983741
The hitboxes are awful, the art style is a dark blurry mess which obscures vision of a lot of enemies and traps because they blend in to the backgrounds, the music is terrible, and the roll is horribly sluggish and unresponsive.
>>337983741
Just pirate it and try it out, it's a decent game.
>>337984220
So you are saying it is a masterpiece in the same quality as Souls games?
>>337978747
The difference here would be that SEGA didn't sue Capcom first which set the precedent.
>>337984379
At least you can see what's going on in a Souls game.
>>337984220
>The hitboxes are awful
Because you can't cheese enemies on level geometry. Gotcha.
>the art style is a dark blurry mess which obscures vision of a lot of enemies and traps because they blend in to the backgrounds
They're supposed to be hidden. That's the point. Git gud.
>the roll is horribly sluggish and unresponsive
The game has an equip limit. It's only sluggish if you're too heavy while rolling. So good for you for being dumb.
>>337985061
Yes, all those enemies are supposed to be impossible to differentiate from the background, it couldn't be the horrible art style.
I'm having fun.
Great game so far.
My only complaint is that I don't really like the art style, but there's no actual problems with it.
>3d castlevania game is made
>it's shit
>From decide to make a proper 3d castlevania game
>then make a sequel to it
>this is a 2d version of a basically a 3d castlevania game
>it isn't that much like castlevania
>>337980675
aren't there some in platinum games like wonderful 101 and bayonetta? and in splatoon's multiplayer (albeit on the gamepad)?
Fugg 2nd boss is spooky
How long is this game? Any replayability?
Oh come on
>>337982528
Bandai Namco copyrighted them. So all of those Dragon Ball Z games have little minigames. The Okami HD port took that out due to legal reasons.
>>337976057
insignificance
>>337977686
It's good, but not great.
If you like Souls and Iga-era Castlevania, you'd undoubtedly enjoy it.
>>337988105
>lv 9
It's hard for me to believe I missed something, where is that?
>>337987970
Ten to fifteen hours just doing the required bosses to advance. Longer for doing optional areas and bosses, crafting, or leveling for special weapons.
There's NG+, and the skill tree is also fairly diverse giving some incentive to try out different play styles with different characters.
There are covenants to discover and some side quests to do. You'll probably miss some of those on your first play through.
If you enjoy Metroidvania then you'll like this. But don't get it just because you like Souls games. This wont scratch that itch because even with all the stuff they rip off from Souls it's still not a "2D souls." It's Castlevania with Souls shit thrown in.
>>337980264
yes you can
>>337989017
Under the watching woods.
You can't own a chair as intellectual property.
I hope you understand my metaphor and you feel bad for asking this question.
This fucking art style is painful to look at. Its like CA and blur had a fucked up eye-rape child.
Decent so far otherwise.
>>337989085
This sounds like everything I've ever wanted. "Metroidvania with good skill tree with Souls shit thrown in." I'm sold.
>>337989017
In the village of smiles. After the first boss you can go either there or to the bandit hideout thingy.
Right after the door you unlock avec the first boss' key, you just drop down and go left (instead of right for the bandits)
That NPC offers to remove curse and sin. Ayy lmao donut steel original features
>>337978818
Not entirely cosmetic. The rolls and red potions from two of the beginner covenant choices are just basic heals but Devara's item heals you and increases your defense for a short time after drinking it. The gold covenant's wine will heal you but will poison you if you drink two in a short time. The betrayer covenant's healing item increases a hidden corruption stat and past a certain point every other covenant's NPCs become automatically hostile.
>>337976057
I had a lot of fun with it, actually.
Couple of the bosses pushed my shit in.
>>337989328
Well the skill tree is just "+1 str, +1 stamina, +1 max flasks", the only nodes that matter are the ones that unlock the use of higher level weapons, armor and spells.
>>337989201
>>337989386
Been through there for a long time, guess i'm backtracking.
Thanks.
>LOL SO ORIGINAL, THIS GAME IS A DIRECT RIPOFF
Didn't the developers like
Literally say that
"This is an homage to Dark Souls?"
>>337989435
Can I change covenants at will? Does it give any malus?
>>337977686
It's the poster child for "Good, not great" games.
You won't regret spending money or time playing it, but there's better games out there you should play first.
>>337981447
>>337981756
>stealing from a two-person dev team
You're the worst, senpaitachi.
>>337976057
I'm liking the game itself, but i'm getting a fuckload of random crashes.
>options, change resolution and select fullscreen, crash
>reclaim first sanctuary, crash
>equip helmet, crash
>go through door, lol wtf i can't see the mobs, crash
>equip another helmet, character becomes insible, crash when i reach sanctuary
>mob hits me, crash
Seems quite random. I'm trying a couple of things to fix it, but looks bad at the moment.
>that artstyle
>pukingman.tif
Fuck, Wish I was specced for this weapon.
>>337990048
That sucks bro, I'm afraid itworks for me :^)
>>337990254
How are you having 2 different flasks? Or is the other one the mana flask?
>>337989915
>Can I change covenants at will?
Yes, to an extent. When you start the game you are given the choice of three covenants to join. When you join a covenant you are given an item of that covenant, and each time you find an empty sanctuary you use that item to claim that sanctuary for your covenant. Once a sanctuary is yours, you can use statues to summon NPCs to that sanctuary, such as vendors or fast travel guides. These NPCs, depending on their type, also give a particular bonus to the area that the sanctuary is within. The magic seller gives a magic bonus to the area, and so on.
If you find a sanctuary already claimed by another covenant, you can heal and level up but you can't place NPCs or fast travel to it or from it. There are items you can get in the game that allow you to retake an already claimed sanctuary. To change covenants, you have to find a sanctuary claimed by the covenant you want to switch to and then take an oath to it.
>>337978598
Have you ever played a Castlevania game inf your life, you lopsided frankenfaced misscarriaged son of a bitch
>>337990048
It crashes a lot on PS4. I don't know what to tell you, man.
>>337990567
Your former comrades will try to push your shit in when they see you again, though.
>>337990531
Turn in stuff at a leader (statue like the rest of the npcs) and he'll give you a choice of 4 different things for sanctuaries of your creed to carry, one of them is more normal flasks, one of them is the one I have.
The extra one I have cures fatigue and poison as well as healing but (probably) heals less.
>>337990779
I didn't want to tell him that, it was supposed to be a surprise.
>>337990759
It crashes. On a fucking console. That owns this game's license exclusive. Meaning it was coded for that console specifically?
Now i know what is happening.
Incopetence.
>>337976057
The MCs face looks so dumb
literally the only put off for me
>>337990864
Oh, he will get his surprise.
His TWO big fucking surprises.
>>337990975
That's what happens when an indie game is made by a handful of people.
>>337991046
Yeah me too. Enemies look cool, but the damn MC and NPCs are fucking disgusting.
Oh well, it's still passable
>>337991109
>Implying I'm gonna switch
I'm a paladin, light goddesses only
I honestly hate to be one of those "works on my machine" faggots but it's so smooth after about 80 hours that I didn't even know people were having a problem
>>337991046
>>337991435
I agree, I put on the pumpkin helmet for that reason, and because it looks cool.
>>337991935
>Wall jumping
>Roof walking
FUCKING SPOILED
>>337993231
Oh shit you're right, those are kind of spoilers.
I guess i'm a terrible person.
>>337989796
homage =/= blatant knockoff
I started paladin, following the Three. Did I fucked up? Been using the morning star, got to +2,killed queen of smiles with it.
How to beat tutorial boss
>>337997031
No, you're fine. Paladin is good for your first run. Maces and hammers are good fun, and greatmaces and greathammers are absolutely hilarious. Feels awesome to blow the fuck out of a boss with a hammer that's more than twice the size of your character.
>>337981274
Please delete this picture of me
For me it suffers the same problem as Lords of the Fallen: Shit artstyle and art direction.
You can't copyright a type of gameplay, a theme or art style.
Otherwise you could bet your ass Nintendo would've gone after almost everyone who's ever done something remotely similar to Mario before.
>>337995581
=/= != !=
>>337981447
Where at, fucboi. Kickass and Piratebay ain't showing up shit.
