>Hopes?
>Expectations?
>Shitposting?
1.1.6 is upon us soon.
>>337974505
When the fuck is it dropping?
Please buff Wario.
Are you ready for weight changes and the addition of Smash Tour to 3DS?
>>337975030
>>337974505
Are we doing a tourney tonight to test dem changes out?
>>337974898
Tomorrow. After the maintenance.also after the Wii U firmware update is released
>>337975030
I just want his FSmash to be faster, holy fuck.
![[Electricity Intensifies].png](https://i.imgur.com/FB15k5i.png "[Electricity Intensifies].png")
>>337974898
According to rumors / Japs: >>337948489
But more broadly, it's allegedly going to drop within the next 24 hours. Nobody posted any sources though so take that with a grain of salt.
Whens the update?
Also buff pic related?
>>337975303
Kill yourself, desperate faggot.
>>337974505
>yfw your favorite character(s) get a buff
>your main will never be nerfed as they're pretty balanced
I think we deserve having Ness finally be good after all these years, melee Ness was an abomination. If you told they simply never tested and finished Ness in melee I would believe you. My only real complaint is his dair, wish it was like his in 64, such a fun move.
More Samus buffs, Jigglypuff buffs, and some Bayo nerfs.
Ganon could probably stand to get a few buffs still, too.
>>337975562
That's really all he needs.
>>337975303
It's not even friday nigga just hold up
I hope the Ganon get buffed again
BUFF DEDEDE
>>337975570
3AM Euro might be correct, looking at when Wii U maintenance is done.
>>337975762
>>337975778
No Ness needs more range and better combos he's getting left behind because everyone else is getting better. Lucina fucking 50-50's us now
>>337975562
How about Samurai giving Wario the shoulder bash back?
New forward smash is ass
>>337976679
get help
Fix their smash attacks and buff his UpThrow Knockback to KO at 140% instead of 210%.
For fucking sakes their KO potential is worse than Melee Kirby itself.
>>337974505
>Hope
Jump momentum, custom moves for DLC characters
>Expectation
Removal of modding capability, no buffs to deserving characters, "never ask me for anything ever again"
>>337975873
Considering my 3 mains (Samus, Mewtwo, Charizard) are in really good places after that last update, I'm okay with how things are right now. I'm honestly a little more worried than anything, considering since the Shieldstun patch accidentally hurt some of Zard's ability. Since I don't feel like they're going to be getting any more buffs after the major touchups they got last patch, there's really nowhere for them to go but down.
Haven't played the game since cloud patch.
I'm a shulk and Ike main, am I fucked? Or about to be fucked?
>>337974505
hopes: buff Robin and Bowser Junior because one is my main and the other is one of my two secondaries, also I'm more biased than hackurai.
expectations: bayonetta nerfed to unplayability instead of just nerfing her more stupid hitboxes and making witch time based on how strong the thing that triggers it is.
shitposting: have your dose
>>337976526
What time is it in europe right now?
>>337974505
BUFF GANON GIVE ALL OF HIS ATTACKS SUPER ARMOR FUCK BALANCE AND FUCK SAKURAI!
>>337976750
Only real thing is I wish pkt2 went farther. Not as insane as Lucas's but with it being so easily gimpable I feel it should have better distance. I suppose his range could be buffed a bit too.
Buff robins walk speed and have nosferatu make you float with no jump loses when you catch someone in mid air
>>337976776
Just send me the link and I'll shut up. Does anyone know where the Imgur albums with Samus screencaps are?
>>337977108
1 AM
>>337974505
I hope Pit gets some sort of change. Anything really. Feels like he's been ignored the past few patches. He's already pretty well balanced, but it'd be nice for a change of pace.
>>337977137
>gannonfag being an idiot
Why am I not surprised?
>>337974505
GIVE MARTH JAB INTO FSMASH AGAIN YOU FUCKS
>>337977183
The range is ok just add more super armor so something as simple as a off stage counter can't stop you
>>337977417
That was never removed...
>>337975303
im on summer vacation rn dont see why not
I just want the bad characters to be buffed enough to be competitively viable
>>337977690
They are viable though,in 4-player free-for-all coin matches ;)
I main Little Mac and I'm worried sick Sakurai will get rid of perfect pivots, advance movements and add more knock back on tilts to ruin combos including my signature 0% to death of heavies and fast fallers.
He also might get rid of jab resetting and pivot u-tilt
then Mac will officially be the worst character in the game.
>>337974505
Smash 4 is so balanced, they had to patch it 20 times since release.
All I ask is for some Roy buffs. I know he's on a fine line since making the right change will make him stupid good, but I really hope they can find the right change to up his potential. Maybe a slightly faster jab or more auto-cancelling aerials.buff Greninja too his grab is still shit
>>337977867
Yes? Do you even understand what you're saying?
>>337977612
The timing on it changed dramatically. If you try to fmash right after jab it becomes jab2 regardless. Went from guaranteed untipped to very very situational
>>337977810
"perfect" pivots. In a game that has a 10 frame input assist buffer.
Woha..
Like, you play a game that considers you to be borderline retarded. Please dont act like you are good at video games.
Thanks.
Buff boipussi
Nerf tits
>>337977796
>Melee coin matches are more fun that Tr4sh coin battles
How can one man be so incompetent?
>>337978089
You do realize pivots and dash dancing is easier in Melee you fucking retard?
>>337978059
It wasn't dramatic, nor is it very very situational. Regardless, it still works perfectly when you tipper jab1, which is a reward for spacing, which is what Marth is about.
>>337978220
He's doing his best to be fired.
He hasn't wanted to make a Smash past Melee.
>>337978394
Then he should just not do it. We'd all be pretty grateful.
>>337978467
That didn't work out so well for Kojima either, you'll recall.
>>337978142
I think Lucas is pretty balanced
ZSS isn't that bad
>>337974505
>Hopes?
Grab reduced to 12/13/14 frames of startup and FAF of 50/65/60. Also more aerial mobility and a better roll.
>Expectations?
Nothing
>Shitposting?
Frame 1-25 super armor on bowling ball, Timber Counter becoming the default Down B, and the ability to use aerials out of Up B
>>337978328
Dash dancing doesnt exist in smash 4.
And no, dashing back and forth on the same spot is not dash dancing. Even if "smash" 4 had dash dancing, the lack of Boost and JC grabs make it useless for half the cast.
And again, "smash" 4 has an input assist buffer of 10 whole frames. Nothing in "smash" 4 is hard to execute. Nothing.
>>337978089
lol you genuinely have autism.
>>337977317
>Gannon
Looks like the retarded bitch here is you.
I would be hyped, but online is now full of people who have played the game every day since launch
>>337978394
Honestly. Thanks sakurai. But we dont want a third brawl. Let someone else do a smash bros game.
>>337978592
get out of here candy you fucking memelord
Christ, Melee fans are insufferable.
>>337978691
Believe me, that's not something you'll have to be concerned about
FG, /v/eekend, and /ssbg/ aren't out of your grasp
>>337978596
*Triggered*
',:^)
I haven't played since Pokken released, was there a patch between the one that buffed Mewtwo's run speed and the one happening now?
>>337978593
>"smash" 4
The rectal ragnarok that is the melee fanbase will never stop being amusing.
HOW DO WE SAVE PAC-MAN?
IT TOOK UNTIL 1.1.5 FOR HIM TO EVEN START GETTING BUFFS
This update is going to break the game.
The balance team is only 2 people now with everyone else working on the new features for NX launch. Bayonetta is easily worse than G&W now.
>>337974505
>Wario gets better smashes and maybe some more % on aerials
>Wario gets nothing
>Wario becomes PM Wario
>>337978732
Literally who?
>>337978846
Damn... brb buying a wii u with "smash" 4.
>>337978585
Lucas can whiff grabs 50,000 times in a row and go unpunished. Spot dodging his grab means he can immediately press grab again.
>>337978931
Literally me!
I just expect Bayo to be nerfed into oblivion and modding to be made pretty much impossible.
>>337978876
>NX will launch with a TR4SH port
Well, another neo-ninty console that i will skip.
May god have mercy on them.
>>337978843
Nope
>>337978941
Enjoy it friend, it's all yours.
TJ "Smash" Yoshi
>>337978891
>Wario becomes PM Wario
Fuck
You
Why did you have to remind me
>>337978781
>>337978585
Can a Puff main get some sympathy? It's utter suffering.
>>337979082
a'ight cool thanks, i'm not behind on info then
have a dog
>>337979124
I'll give you that first anon, but the guy I replied to was so vague that I was just trying to find out who the fuck he was talking abouttits was obvious but I was just trying to be a cheeky cunt at that point
>Marth is trashed nonstop while Royfags jack off to their "top tier character" when he releases, and even Lucinafags, in their infinite ignorance, say all around sword > tipper
>Marth get buff after buff, leaving Roy in the dust and gaining more and more distance from Lucina because buffs exponentially benefit tippers.
>yfw this patch Marth kills the clones once and for all with his shiny new short hop double fair
>>337974505
I hope Bowser's side-b gets tweaked slightly again so it won't miss point blank.
I expect Bayonetta nerfs and minor tweaks to the rest of the cast, most likely Shulk.
If some faggot named Chazo comes in trying to get you to join a tournament tell him to fuck off.
>>337979321
I'm glad for you Marthfags, Lucina and Roy should have been alt costumes from the start.
>>337979098
>enjoying
>a game that treats me like a borderline retard with a Ten frame input assist buffer
No.
There is no skill ceiling, meaning no satisfaction to be had, and which in turn means that i wont be having any fun.
Thanks for the offer though.
>>337979079
It's funny that everyone wants melee HD, but they are getting smash 4 remaster.
>>337979103
Why was PM wario so perfect?
>>337979124 Here
>>337979298
Ment >>337979103
My bad.
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>>337979687
>mfw two (You)s in the same post
What in the fuck
Also wait a fuck. One minute you're shitposting about Smash 4 being trash the next you're calling PM Reddit shit? Whose side are you fucking on?
>>337979321
Ok hold on a second. Short hop double fair was in melee (of course lol) and even in fucking brawl. Are you telling me that they even removed THAT simple thing from Smash 4 as well? Is there anything they didnt remove gameplay vise?
Wouldn't mind if Cloud got nerfed into oblivion. I don't care about Bayo's bullshit but Cloud being a DLC character that is just a superior version of Ike and Shulk with a better limit break than Little mac's is fucking stupid.
Like Ike, Shulk and Little mac weren't already garbage but wait now you can pay 6 dollars and get a much better version of these characters, silly goyim. Cloud's existence just makes these characters irrelevant forever now. I don't even play them it's just bullshit for people that do main them or haven't purchased the DLC.
>>337978732
pls no, the cirlcejerks in those threads are bad enough
>>337979714
Thanks for Saints Row, anon, you nade ny night
>>337979714
I don't know why you're feeling so generous in this thread in particular but thanks for Killer is Dead anon.>inb4 chargeback
>>337979630
He just felt amazing and had great moves
>dat butt bounce
>those throws
>the bite mix ups
>perfect shoulder
>>337979795
They also removed tripping. How casual can this game get?
>>337979536
Many people ive talked to, that actually play melee, do not want a melee HD that much. Considering no HDTV has 0 input lag, like the CRT's.
Or do lagless HDTVs exist now..? Last time i checked, even in Game-Mode, they had like 17 ms of input lag.
Also yeah, it's not a secret that nintendo is completely out of touch with their fans. Let them bring out smash 4 on a third device. But i honestly think they wont be this stupid.
>>337978781
Pretty much.
>>337980016
why is part 7 so much better than the rest?
>>337980105
They also flat out removed projectile reflect on perfect/power shield.
Hell, they even removed Light shield.
So yeah, i guess very, very casual.
>>337979776
I love sm4sh but those pics were just shit I made to rustle my friends jimmies and I have no where else to post em' so....
Also Jr buffs please....
>>337978858
That's gotta be tough, man.
I can't wait to see what characters get a 1% damage increase to a move or even a 1 pixel increase in range for an attack. Get hype!
This update is unusually big, especially on the 3DS. It can't just be balance tweaks.
>>337980816
A 1% damage increase can mean a lot, man.
Ike's fair got about 2% damage increase towards many patches in total, and it made it kill about 30% sooner. A higher % also means the move deals more hitstun.
>>337981015
Guys, they addedChrom
>>337980272
>Hirohiko Araki is taken by a fey mood!
I think he just really likes Westerns, and what with it originally being unrelated to Jojo he decided to go all-out and stretch his legs a little. But I'm still not sure how he managed to have such good art for just Part 7 unless he had extra help or was just working even harder than usual.
>>337981015
The only thing I could think of would be better textures for the N3DS version or something like that, I can't imagine why the 3DS would be 600 MB over the Wii U's 30 if they were doing the same thing.
>>337981015
maybe its "no stage hazards" mode
Why does Sakurai attempt to balance this game when he himself doesn't even like competitive play? It's obvious that the patches often address issues that competitive smashers complain about. But then as a big fuck you no patch notes are released, requiring people to test every single aspect of every character every time. I just don't get it.
>>337974505
>Hopes
80% of the moves in the game will receive more hitstun. Horizontal blast zones reduced in most stages. Option to make "Battlefield" version of stages added (Epsilon?). Landing lag reduced across all characters, some moreso than others. Gravity slightly increased.
>Expectations
Literally none of the things I said actually happen.
>>337981523
Sakurai's not working on the game himself anymore. It's pretty much a leftover team at Bamco doing this shit now. Notice how the last patch was actually agreeable and not a bunch of random shit, conveniently a couple weeks after Sakurai left the building.
>>337981728
Well now I'm even more excited for this patch.
>>337979496
But >>337978941 implies that you don't even own a WiiU. What the fuck are you doing in this thread? Fuck off with your shitposting ways.
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>>337981015
where do you people get the file sizes from? how large is it?
>>337981728
I doubt they are entirely independent without Sakurai's permission. At the very least "hey we want to make some changes to balance, can we?"
"Sure"
Nerf Rosalina into irrelevance.
Who the fuck actually mains Rosalina and think she is a fun and skillful character to play? 90% of these cunts play hyper defensive, just standing there with her Luma wall waiting for you to attack so she can just shield grab into the same stupid flowchart shit. They won't even attempt to come after you if they have the lead they just sit there and wait for you.
>grab her and she just spams A trying to get Luma to cancel your grab
Probably the campiest, most anti-fun character that just draws every game out the longest she can. I don't think I've ever fought a respectable Rosalina player.
>>337981921
At least then he's still not actually there to overlook it and make any decisions regarding it.
>>337981876
Samus got some pretty good shit last patch, this one should put the nail on it.
I really want Samus to be good, it's a real fucking shame she came out just as bad as her last game when Smash 4 released
>>337982060
git gud
>>337982060
I would love thisad a ness main.
>>337981728
>>337982065
Sakurai isn't even in charge of balance, it's a small team that does it (like 12 in smash 4 if I recall correctly).
Stop with the retarded Sakurai Boogeyman.
>>337982179
Yeah man, Samus is by far one of my favorite characters to play, She doesn't have to be as good as ZSS, but she could at least be a car, that hits like a truck, with multiple kill moves, other than F. Chargeshot and Bair.
>>337982192
>T. Rosalina main.
She isn't hard to fight against compared to other top tiers, she is just the least fun to fight against because her playstyle promotes super defensive, campy play which is the biggest flaw of Sm4sh
>>337982451
>she is just the least fun to fight against
you never fought a Bayonetta
>>337975562
THIS.
Bamco developed Pokken on its own right? And it has been received quite well.
What are the chances of Nintendo going all-in and giving them near/complete control of Smash NX and letting them design the new game from the ground up? We can already assume Sakurai isn't coming back for the next one so it'll already be a bit different regardless.
>>337982671
>new game
it's a port bro
Want to pick up a new chatacter as a ness/lucas main, any suggestions? I like mega man but I can't get around his projectile high jinks, wario and villager also seem fun.
>>337983005
as a former Ness main and current Lucas secondary, try Robin or a Koopaling
>>337983005
Mewtwo
Daily reminder that if you want any characters to get nerfed at this point you are a fucking shitter and everything wrong with the smash community. Lower tier characters should only be buffed to the level of the higher tiers not the other way around.
>>337983719
So if I want both does that make me mid-level?
>>337983005
that picture bothers me on several accounts
>>337983930
Yeah the art itself is mediocre but I thought it was cool just having every character and being a homage to the iconic mvc1 artwork.
>>337982797
Like Nintendo is going to miss out on free money by just porting Sm4sh.
>>337983874
No it makes you a shitter. Fucking faggot.
>>337984267
I'll just ignore your post and assume I'm right then.
Shulk buffs never
I got a Wii U now, so I'll join you guys this weekend
>>337984478
Ignoring the fact youre a faggot doesnt make you suck dick any less, fag.
>>337984639
You only get buffs if they nerf your counter, Monado Boy.
>>337979714
>too slow
fug
>>337976984
Thanks doc
>>337984087
it seems like the artist has talent, but the show of it is very inconsistent, and the composition is so poorly done that it wouldn't even matter
i think my question is why the artist would choose a perspective that they are clearly not very good at, and they seem to try and force 3/4 a lot which is visibly betterplus, what's up with pit's eye/pkmn trainer's hat/why would they make it so some characters are barely visible???
Dedede buffs never
>>337983719
NO! FUCK YOU! NERF EVERYONE TO PALUTENA'S LEVEL!
>>337985295
>>337983719
As much as I mostly agree with that, I think Bayonetta is too powerful to be fun
now if everyone were at Mario's current level (5th place on eventhubs at the moment) I think the game would be great
M-Marth?
>>337985785
I'd rather have everyone be at Shiek's level, but I guess then I could just play Melee or Project M.
>>337985295
>>337985681
>>337986408
Sheik would be lower?
Unless you mean before the nerfs she got, in which case that's valid.
BUFF DKS SIDE B!! DOOOOO IIIIITTTTTT
Villyman main.
The worst thing about him is probably his fucking grab. It's just about as slow as Pac's but at least Pac's grab is active for way longer. Villager's whiffed dash grab is the equivalent to tripping in Brawl because for some reason, he sits there with his net on the ground for a good half second for no reason.
>>337978592
I know you're trolling but
>ability to use aerials out of Up B
Fund it. He'd be able to net so many accurate offstage fairs this way.
On a side note am I the only one who still has trouble with Cloud? I just wish some of his moves had some semblance of endlag and he ran a little slower. I went to a regional and had to deal with a Cloud who's general strategy was
>Run away and charge Limit
>get in close and Limit Side B
>that move has zero endlag so if he misses he'd run away and charge limit again
Villager's stubby legs can't catch him, what do you even do in this situation?
>>337987069
He has the second best back throw in the game so his grab being really punishable is meant to balance that
>>337977867
>tfw launch Sm4sh is the most balanced Smash game and it's only gotten better since then
>>337987508
Wectoring will never come back
>>337985029
>not even the best counter in the game anymore
>numerous other moves are easy contenders for worst in the game
Suffering
>>337987605
>tfw
Wectoring was fucking stupid, but dammit it fit my fucking stupid main.
>>337987605
Good, Wario's strong enough without literally breaking the game.
This mighty be a good question to ask:
Does Nintendo update the Wii U firmware when you send it in and there is an update available? Also same thing for game updates.
Increase Robin's run speed. It doesn't make sense that he/she's so slow considering he/she can be the 2nd most fastest unit in their game
Does anyone ever enjoy playing against a Little Mac? It's like you're not even playing smash anymore, you're playing "try to get an extremely volatile punching bag offstage." Then there's so much shit onstage they can do for free, shit infuriates me. Doesn't help that they're always massive faggots about thier ego.
Is the patch happening tonight? The only maintenance I see on Nintendo's website is for Miiverse.
Will they ever add more DLC characters? Serious question
>Patch could be dropping at any moment
>Have to complete a 20 word essay for tomorrow
JUST
>>337988483
What's your essay about anon, I will write it for you $1/word
>DK gets even more buffs for no reason
>>337987881
I do but that is because Bowser is one of the few characters with the range to punish Mac's smash attacks out of shield and tough enough to slug it out. He's unbelievably strong but can be managed if you have the right patience. I make it a point to walk against him unless he is in the air.
>>337988618
>bowser gets another weight increase buff
Give me Kirby's Dair and make Upthrow kill around 100 percent and I will go back to her. I just...can't anymore, she has been left too far in the dust.
>>337988483
>20 words
wut
Stage hazard toggle when?
>>337985295
Good. I hate fighting that piece of shit.
>>337988483
At least they're not 20 one word essays.
With the file size of the patch being 61MB and 325MB for the Wii U and 3DS respectively, makes me wonder what are they adding to the game besides game play tweaks. Are they adding modes? Unifying stages of both consoles? this could be a major update beyond what we're used to, since I don't remember them advertising updates on advance.
>>337989654
3DS might get a new free stage from Wii U.
>>337974505
Hopes: Bair slightly faster, fair more range
Expectations: Heavy character randomly picked out of a hat is buffed, low tier gets huge buffs, top tier gets dead, random character gets buffs and becomes super viable and is seen in tournaments a lot more
Shitpost: Nah
>>337989654
That doesn't sound very big at all. How big were past updates for comparison? And keep in mind 3DS is just dumb about updates and has to reinstall all past changes with every update.
They're going to make it so that we can make our own edits to their frame data, hitboxes, etc. and give new stages for 3DS version. They'll leave it alone after this update.
>>337989737
So the patch isn't happening anytime soon like I expected everyone go home
>>337989870
>>337989854
And how would that work for online play?
Would be nice if there were more options in training mode like a record option so I can practice my off stage things and whatnot.
>>337989991
Broken.
>>337988483
May as well give up now my man. There's no telling how long that would take. I suggest dropping out.
>>337974505
>hopes
Shulk buff, Bayonetta not beaten to death with the nerfstick, a love tap would suffice
>expectations
Shulk barely touched, Bayo is kill
>>337974505
Hopes:
Nerf Jigglypuff, Bayonetta, Little Mac, and make Captain Falcon slower.
Expectations:
Big Bayonetta nerf cuz lets face it she seriously needs it.
Small Corn nerf
More Ike buffs :^)
>>337986536
I believe!
Pikachu
>Increase the hit box of Thunder when it hits Pikachu
>Down Smash can kill now
Those two FUCKING THINS AND PIKACHU WOULD BE SO FUN.
But no we are stuck on the sheik 2.0, with increase difficulty to get the kills, so much fun to get that lucky up smash.
>>337990602
>Nerf Jigglypuff
What possible reason would you have for this?
>>337991113
>he's so bad he wants Jiggly nerfed
>>337990602
>Nerf Jigglypuff
Hi Reggie
>no way to switch controls to d pad on the 3DS version
who thought this was a good idea?
Who here thinks of footstooling to be an "advanced technique" and combos using footstools should stay in the game?
>>337991571
If it's going to be considered an advanced technique I want a dedicated button for it. See; PM
>>337991571
I'm not the biggest compfag
bit if you seriously think footstooling is advanced, you're a god damn moron
>>337977810
Sakurai doesn't get rid of anything. He isn't in charge of balance, and hasn't been for a long time now.
>>337974505
>>Hopes?
Marth buffs, Falco buffs, make Cloud's normal UpB snap the ledge.
Remove Mario and Fox's magnet hands. Just theirs.
>>Expectations?
Bayo nerfs and mostly pointless stuff
>>Shitposting?
I'm extremely glad Jiggs is shit in this game and hope she never gets buffed.
Marth's Tipper Shield breaker should go through perfect shields.
>>337991838
How does Project M implement it?
>>337991951
I'm only asking because I'm now curious about it because of all the replies from another thread defending footstooling, claiming that it is "one the few advanced mechanics in the game that allow for hard to do advanced combo extensions". But, of course, it was mostly me being told I'm bad at the game.
Buff. Now.
>>337975762
>ganondorf keeps getting buffed
AAAAHAHA
IT'S OUT
>>337992427
Being used in comboes is a more complicated way of using it I'll give you that, but it's such a basic maneuver that you can do it by accident. Footstooling isn't an advanced mechanic, using it correctly is, and if that's enough to call it an AT then I guess recovery is an AT
>>337988760
>upthrow kill around 100%
lol
>>337992427
>But, of course, it was mostly me being told I'm bad at the game.
You were told that because you didn't had any argument to why footstools shouldn't be in the game. You only were writing "muh japanese vines" in greentext. Your opinion was pretty worthless.
>>337992427
Footstooling isn't advanced, it's not difficult to preform but the issue is it's often unviable because of infinite air dodges and the risk of getting hit by the foe. Unless you have the opponent in hitstun going for a footstool isn't worth it often. Some characters have good footstool combos like Lucas' infinite or Mewtwos but they are incredible hard to pull off
>>337991491
Dpad can't do angular movement
>>337992658
Oh?
>>337991571
why would you remove footstooling
did you get memed on my the cpus and their frame perfect bullshit
>>337993554
lol what a dumb response
"oh?"
lol haha
>>337981015
Maybe a stage port or five if you're lucky.
>>337993623
Ah, guess I was right.
Wonder how long till they release it.
So is the patch out yet?
>>337992429
You'll get buffs and a better recovery but you won't be able to Up B out of hitstun because dear God that is bullshit.
>Replays are dead
>>337975030
Mah fuckin Nigga.
His smashes should all be less laggy.
Make his Uair hitbox a tad bigger all around.
Make Dair and Bair 1% stronger.
and make him be able to grab tires.
I'll be happy playing my new high tier main.
Considering that they didn't nerf Corrin that bad last time, I doubt Bayo will get completely fucked in this update.
>>337994620
Corrin got pretty fucked considering the only thing that needed fixing was the retarded knockback on the counter. There was a laundry list of nerfs for Corn
- No Changes
To expect anything is to be shafted again. If I expect the worst, I can only be happy with the results.
>>337994620
>mild nerf to Dragon Fang shot
>sizeable nerf to counter
>assorted other nerfs/changes
No, Corrin got fist-fucked. I don't know if they're still considered really good or just okay but they're certainly not bullshit anymore. I think Bayonetta will get nerfed less than Corrin was but it'll be enough.
I hope they speed up the gameplay so it's not boring as fuck anymore.
>>337995098
>No changes
>Worst
>rest knockback reduced by 15%
>increased flower duration by 0.8s
>air speed multiplier reduced by 0.10
>removed shield-break instakill
You're welcome Jigglypuff mains!
-Sakurai
the patch isn't coming out for a week or two
abandon thread
>>337995186
>tell friend I play Smash with that I slightly prefer PM because Smash 4 is slow
>"lol just pick sonic then yu fag"
I am beginning to think casuals don't actually even know what compfags mean when they talk about melee being faster and whatnot. Hell, calling myself a compfag is being generous so I think he might just be stupid.
>>337995517
"No changes" was my hope. Anything worse will not surprise me, and anything better will be a pleasant gift.
>>337995609
Source.
>>337995604
but there was maintenance just yesterday it just has to come sooner you gotta believe.
>>337995604
There's a huge maintenance tonight. I doubt its the patch but whatever.
>>337995720
Artist is catunder
All I want is a buff for kirby anda mewtwo tier buff for ganondorf
>>337995971
Thanks, senpai.
Might buffs come your way.
>>337996061
Ganondorf will never be anything more than slow Captain Falcon. Get over it already.
>>337995971
>catunder
He's pretty good.
>>337995604
Source?
Or are you just a faggot?
>>337996204
Never
I shall continue to hope
Till smash 5
>>337996383
There's no specified date for the actual patch, but there's a 3DS/WiiU patch tonight which could be the actual patch.
If the patch is not tonight then it might be in a week or two.
>>337996383
Patches always drop Tuesday night. There is no maintenance tonight, the patch won't be tonight, it'll be in a week or two.
>Removed Wectoring
>Shield stun indirectly nerfed his Dair and it isn't as reliable as before upon landing
>Removed the ground state glitch
>No buffs in any patch whatsoever
Can't wait to get nothing again in this patch
>>337996619
>There is no maintenance tonight,
There is, in fact, a maintenance tonight.
actually ike/mewtwo tier buffs for shulk, the shit he's gotten thus far barely helped
it's bullshit that one of the hardest characters to play is low tier, the other hardest characters to play are at least mid tier like peach and pac-man
>>337996773
There is, in fact, fucking not. There Wii U maintenance and Miiverse. Nothing about 3DS, nothing about Smash.
I need my Shulk buffs. Please deliver Sakurai.
>>337996732
We need wectoring back for the love of god.
DRASTICALLY increase base knockback for Phantom Slash and decrease starting frames a bit, adjust knockback growth accordingly
>>337996732
>Shield stun indirectly nerfed his Dair and it isn't as reliable as before upon landing
I find this change beneficial, since you can position yourself away from someone who shields you Dair, I almost never get punished for doing Dairs.
