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Apologize.
For what? I enjoyed it.
>>337942135
How can I apologize to a game I've always liked?except soul memory, fuck you soul memory, why are you even a thing on Ng+ if it's to stop twinking?
>>337942135
Fuck that. Still can't beat mirror knight. Tried summoning twice and the players suck ass
I played it for 700 hours and have always thought it was the best souls game so no. The rest of the faggot casuals on this board need to apologize though.
Im sorry you were such a piece of shit
>>337942259
I never tried, but were we ever able to lock soul memory to a specific level with cheat engine? Or did people get flagged for trying?
>>337942135
Apologize for making this thread again.
>>337942135
This game is the worst souls game. Decent fantasy game
New souls kiddies can't cope with the fact that the first souls game they played is the worst one
Im sorry I wasted money instead of pirating it
>>337942369
They added a ring to lock it in place, but it wastes a slot. Shit game in series, regardless. Would have been a fine souls like, but as a sequel it's shit. I want it to get the first born treatment.
>>337942135
Be honest, does anyone miss this game after playing Dark Souls 3? The PvP and Ng+ was so much fun and varied in Dark Souls 2.
>>337942729
It's hard to really think of it as a sequel as it takes place in a completely different land and only has references to the first game's events. Hell, the first game's events are treated like they happened so long ago in an impossibly far off land that DS2 might as well be in another world.
Honestly 3 is Dark Souls 2. Dark Souls 2 is more like a side story.
>>337942135
It was shit
>>337942480
This. The newfound love for DS2 really is dumbfounding.
Yes, it should apologise.
For its level design
For its bugged durability
For its "world connectivity"
For its bad animations
For Soul Memory
For Adaptability
For its enemy tracking
For its bad graphics
For its director
For its downgrade
For its re-release
For everything
>>337942135
I was never a "DS2 is bad" memer so i have nothing to apologize for.
>>337942135
Damn, I just realized vanilla DkSII was the last good souls game.
>>337943082
The ADP stat, soul memory and weapon durability are really the only valid complaints here.
The game shined in every other regard and had the best pvp out of the entire soulsborne franchise.
>>337943178
>The sacrifice was made to make it playable on consoles
just makes me hate the game even more for prioritizing money over game design
>>337943075
I think most people are just being contrarian.
>>337942380
Only if you apologize first.
Literally best souls game only redditfags disagree
>>337943178
I dont remember it being THAT bad, but I played SOTFS, did they upgrade it for SOTFS, at least a bit?
Also in the previews the dragon in Aldia's keep moved but when I played it didn't, does it need specific requirements to move or was it removed?
>>337943270
>best pvp
>had roll punching, monastery scimitar infinite parry frames, one shot hexes and parry animations that lasted an eternity
Nigga the pvp was the worst too
>>337943590
SOTFS is the less bad version. Vanilla DS2 is the absolute worst game in the series
>>337943270
>>337943082
ADP is fine in concept and a benefit to the series, fight me.
Reminder:
>dark souls 2 has shit story progression, the world feels convoluted, unfinished, and fundamentally lacks a living or realised feeling
>dark souls 2 bosses are mechanically far less complex than the rest of the series
>Dark Souls 2's area design is scattered and rarely ever good, lost bastille is a high point in a sea of shit
>dark souls 2's world design is fundamentally flawed with unfinished parts, a lack of visual consistency, and awful geography issues
>dark souls 2's combat feels far more sluggish, it also has massive issues with hitboxes and the adp stat
>dark souls 2's reliance on content over quality resulted in a deluge of shitty bosses, shitty areas, shitty npc's and shitty questlines as well as a huge selection of weapons that are literally clones with stat differences
>dark souls 2 took an entire year before they managed to scramble anything that even resembles a compelling story
>dark souls 2 relies on mindless references far more than dark souls 3, in it's case, the references are just that, mindless, the old dragonslayer, the four lord souls, they are literally fundamentally not expanded upon to a justifiable amount, whereas dark souls 3 incorporates and develops these ideas into a new progression of the story
>dark souls 2 uses the four lord souls as a repetetive plot device, whereas dark souls 3 utilises a sequel like story progression, collection the results of dark souls 1 and 2, the lords of cinder, and making them work do shit
Dark Souls 2 is an utter failure, a travesty, and to even compare it to the other games in the series is completely and utterly hopeless.
Keep the only good content by itself, the DLC's, because they both reinforce their own side stories, and largely ignore the horrible main game content.
>>337943928
I meant graphically did they add some stuff in SOTFS?
The main reason why I enjoy the Souls games is the level design and how it all connects.
DSII level designed sucked compared to 1 and 3
>>337944036
I'm all for experimenting but it shouldn't have affected the i-frames of rolling. It should have affected damage taken during rolls I.e. Counter hits and/or roll distance. Equip load should affect i frames and that's it
>>337942135
Nope, Dark Souls 2 is still the worst game in the series, regardless how many times you post this thread.
>>337944189
Yes absolutely. Better lighting and 60 fps to name a few
>>337944241
That's not an argument at all, that's just stating what ADP does and saying it shouldn't do that.
>>337944193
DeS wasn't connected though. And DaS3 doesn't feel all that connected either, it feels a lot more like DeS in fact, with level based shortcuts but no overall interconnection
I won't apologise because I know it's the best one in the franchise.
DeS>=BB>DaS>=DaS2>=DaS3
For me the main problem for me is how much DaS3 feels like a "the real DaS2" with a redeeming "we love DeS" spice.
DaS2 wasn't perfect but it improved alot from DaS, despite some horrible mistakes.
>>337944396
I stated what it does, and what it should do to make it better. That my friend , *is* an argument
>>337944406
He's a graphics whore who believes that world design is better simply because you can see one location from another while ignoring how it actually plays.
>>337943928
Only if you don't include Demon's Souls.
>>337942135
No fuck you. I'm not gonna apologize to a shit game because the sequel was shit.
>>337944623
Lol, this should be good. How is DeS the worst one?
>>337944537
> >=
are bloodborne fans really this retarded?
>>337944550
No, I asked why it was bad and you replied with what it does.
It's like if I said "Dex scaling on weapons is a good thing" and you replied "No it isn't, dex scaling on weapons increases damage as your dex goes up. It should work like X, Y, Z".
Why shouldn't i-frames be tied to a stat?
>>337944610
Makes sense
>>337944778
Salty pc/ps4 exclusivists that know DeS is never gracing their only platform
People only hate this game to fit in, they didn't hate it until it became cool to hate it
>>337942135
fuck off
>>337945030
Apologize.
>>337944879
It's bad because every build has to have ADP to be viable. That's why it's bad. It's another dump stat
>>337944991
Honestly its my least favourite but I still like it. Also surprisingly people outside of /v/ dont hate it
>>337942135
>dashit2 fans are so insecure they have to make this thread every fucking day
>>337945159
Tbh I've seen more people praise this game everywhere than condemn it
>>337944879
There's also a reason why DS2 is the only game to tie i frames to a stat. They'll never do it again. They realized it's a mistake
I still feel the same way. It wasn't as good as the other games. Soul memory was unforgivable.
>>337945124
>It's bad because every build has to have ADP to be viable.
Get good, in all seriousness. The only time low ADP can't be compensated for is if the attack animation is longer than the default i-frames and even then, only in situations where it's impossible to block or move out of the way. But that's not a problem with ADP but rather enemy and level design.
It's like calling HP is a dump stat because it makes the game easier regardless of build.
>>337942135
No, it was a good game by itself but easily the worst of the souls games
One of the few games where a graphical downgrade ruined the game itself. One of the biggest fuck ups, I have no idea why people didn't just point fingers and laugh.
>>337945354
Bonfire ascetics, power stancing, NG+ content, and good covenants were also mistakes by this logic.
>>337945597
Most people dont keep up with game development so they didn't notice
Also a lot wouldn't care either way, the graphics are good enough for them
>>337942135
I had a love/hate relationship with you for the longest time, but after the original, the dlcs, then scholar, and given more time, I settled on love.
You're alright Dark Souls 2 - [email protected]
>>337945597
>mfw DaS3 could handle the Torch stuff since the engine was better
>no areas in the game effectively utilize it, even the few pitch black areas
Fucking why
>>337942135
Horrible mashed together game, Jesus Christ.
>>337945534
Your logic is flawed lmao. If I can't dodge every weapons type when timed properly, that's a problem.
>>337942135
I apologize for wasting my time on you
>>337945720
Bonfire ascetics were meh. Power stancing led to broken infinite combos,
Ds2 wasn't the first game to do ng+ content and covenants were broken lol.
>>337946136
Yes, in the very rare cases where you cannot
a) roll through it because the hurtbox lingers too long.
b) Block it with a shield
or
c) physically move out of the way of the attack
then there is an issue. But that issue is not with ADP -- it simply means that particular hurtbox is poorly designed or the default i-frames are too low.
Or to put it more broadly, there is nothing wrong with tying i-frames to a stat when the game functions perfectly fine at the default value. If the game does _not_ function perfectly fine it is a problem with the rest of the game, not the idea of tying i-frames to a stat.
>>337946569
Lol it's the game's fault, not the stat's fault? You just went full retard dude
>>337946272
DaS2 is the only Souls game to have significant NG+ content and no broken covenants.
But great job parroting memes, /v/ermin.
>>337946749
Yes, it's the game's fault.
Take HP for example. If some enemies in the game were capable of one-shotting you at full HP, to the point where you had to invest some stats into HP to survive, that would not be a problem with HP as a stat but rather the game.
You still haven't answered why tying i-frames to a stat is a bad idea, you have only listed some rare instances in DS2 (which I'm not even sure exist) where investing a minimum into ADP is necessary.
>>337944183
Somehow better than 3 though
Does SOTFS redeem this game? I played vanilla and it was shit. That final boss was underwhelming.
>>337944778
Terrible puzzle bosses.
There's a reason why I put 1000 hours in every souls game but only finished DeS 7 times and one of those was a SL1 run.
Easy and therefore boring game.
>>337947379
apologize RIGHT NOW
>Apologizing for SotFS, arguably the second best of the souls series
Enjoy your Lodran circlejerk.
>>337946272
>broken infinite combos
Weapons in DS2 took a lot of stamina to use, no such thing exists.
>>337946272
>Bonfire ascetics were meh
>letting you refight bosses without starting a new game is meh
What is wrong with you?
>>337947379
SOTFS fixes quite a bit, yeah. Give it a go.
>>337947379
There's a new final boss.
>>337947528
Watch iron pineapples ds2 videos
>>337947379
If you haven't played through the DLC, then picking up Scholar is probably worth it.
Otherwise the changes aren't substantial enough.
>>337947647
Don't say that, it implies that the new final boss isn't also underwhelming.
>>337942303
>Can't beat mirror knight
>Summons suck ass
Hows it going DSP?
>>337947648
If you're talking the ones where he dual mace and poise breaks a few bosses, that was patched.
And it only worked on Sentinels, Simmer and Mythra.
Stunlocking combos don't exist in DS2 PvP.
>>337947851
There was one at one point where you get 99 end and use two straight swords in your left and right hand and then alternate them each attack for an stunlock combo until you run out of endurance
>>337947763
The DS2 DLC bosses are better then nearly every boss in DS3 besides Soul of Cinder and Nameless King, so at least there's that.
>tfw nothing in DaS3 is remotely as comfy as Heide's Tower or Majula
>tfw the fashion in DaS3 is crap compared to 2
>tfw no arena
>tfw no blue eye orb
>tfw no interesting NG+
>tfw no Heavenly Thunder miracle
>tfw no working poise
>tfw no way to punish chugging
>>337948337
>>tfw the fashion in DaS3 is crap compared to 2
This makes me really upset, why is the fashion in 3 so garbage?
>>337948612
wait for the dlc goyim
>>337942135
At least it's better than dark souls 3
>>337948337
>daS2 fashion
>not garbage
Half the shit looks WoW-levels of bad.
>>337948337
>tfw no way to punish chugging
?
>>337949872
literally none
>>337949872
Chugging estus.
Are you legitimately confused or are you disagreeing with him?
>>337949872
>enemy players can literally step an inch away from you and chug because of the build up before your character actually begins sprinting
>>337949443
>WoW levels of bad
so good?
>>337943270
The game shined for it's downgrade?
no way
soul memory was a good system
>>337942135
Nope it's still not as good as it should have been. There's way too much wrong with it for me to apologize for me talking shit about it.I did enjoy my time with it. It's just not as good as the other souls -games (including BB).
>>337942729
There are already four ring slots. The ring they added reeks of just slapping a bandaid over the problem, but I can't be upset at it from a balancing standpoint. Everybody who wants to conform to a specific "meta" and play PvP will be wearing the ring, so everybody is subjected to the same balance decision. I don't mind that you have to pick your rings more carefully if you want to PvP. Of course, just the system would have been the better and less lazy solution.
>>337954305
just removing the system, is what I meant to say. and I'm refering to soul memory, of course.
>>337942135
Its too late to apologize~
ITS TOO LATE~~~~~~~~~~~~`
>>337947434
>Called game boring
>Played through it 7 times
I know this gets thrown around on /v/ a lot and has almost lost all meaning, but I think you may have actual autism.
>>337943082
You forgot its horrible hitboxes.
