> In Blizzard’s Overwatch, the character cosmetic items can only be bought through in-game credits or luckily snagged through loot boxes. These unlockables vary from cosmetic skins, to alternate win poses, and spray logo designs. However, somebody managed to compute the number of player matches and loot boxes needed to collect all the current cosmetics in-game.
> According to Reddit user Hizin, an Overwatch player will need an estimate of 550 loot boxes and 5500 games to unlock all the current cosmetics in-game. Excluding the limited edition cosmetics, there are about “1170 unlockable cosmetics” accessible to the players.
> By computing with both factual and assumed data, Hizin’s brief research shows that players really need to invest at least a full year to playing Overwatch to achieve this goal.
I guess you could spend your hard earned money to buy loot boxes. Or better yet, play something like Battleborn where you can unlock everything in around two weeks of gameplay.
I'm starting to think Randy himself is making all these pro Battleborn and anti Overwatch threads
>>337932243
who gives a fuck everything's entirely cosmetic
unlike fucking games like LoL where you actually have to unlock shit crucial to the game like champions, runes and abilities
>>337932243
Literally more playtime than No Man's Sky
Holy shit goty 2016 confirmed
There's like 4 Overwatch threads on the 1st page. My god, this really is the hottest game of the summer.
>>337932373
>it's okay when Blizzard does it
>>337932243
This shill is even worse than fallout 4.
>6000 matches to unlock all the shitty sprays
You get higher loot chance on legendaries the more you open loot boxes without one, I only played the beta for 10 hours total and walked away with 4 legendariesI want them back, rip Solid Snake 76 ;_;
>>337932410
If this cosmetic shit is so unimportant, why not unlock it all immediately?
>>337932243
>cosmetics
And thus no fucks were given
>>337932629
>>337932243
Food. Koreans like grinding
Why not let you choose what you unlock instead of a shitty random system?
>>337932410
>who gives a fuck everything's entirely cosmetic
that defense sure worked for tf2 lol
>>337932657
Wait, our leveling and drops from the beta don't carry over? I fucking spent 12 hours a fucking day playing Overwatch during the beta getting to level 61 so I could make fun of noobs and have superior skins.
What the fuck Blizzard? Giant fucking waste of time.
>>337932243
Game of the FUCKING year
>>337932243
>Buy 60 dollar game
>Have to spend literally 8.2129 Months = 8 Months, 6 Days, 11 Hours, 33 Minutes and 19 Seconds to unlock the rest of the content you already paid for
>mfw Blizzcucks will eat this up and defend it
>>337932717
Because it's a product that's only worth as much as you pay for it.
>>337932243
Battleborns loot boxes actually effect gameplay, fuck off shill.
>>337932243
>. Or better yet, play something like Battleborn
So you want me to avoid playing a pile of shit by playing another BIGGER pile of shit?
I'll decline your offer, thank you very much. I won't give one cent or even attention to Gearbox's garbage. Gearbox will have to return the money they stole first.
>>337932946
If you bothered to read, you would have saw that
>>337932243
>implying you will need/ use more than 5 cosmetics per hero
I like the game and even i say, take this shit to /vg/ already.
>>337932862
>go to restaurant by yourself
>tell the hostess you need a table for 1
>she takes you back to a two top
>you say you should be allowed to choose where you sit
>go into the private room for 20 people
>get mad when the manager asks you to leave
That's how retarded you sound like right now
>>337932243
>6000 is a big number now
whoa /v/, you really became casual.
>>337932862
You sometimes get coins which you can save up to buy whatever cosmetic thing you want.
>>337933035
Its $40 you autist
>>337932243
>It's all cosmetic
>means nothing to the game
>earn credits to buy which ones you want
>maybe get lucky and just get them in a lootbox
>mfw when I have no face
They should 100 percent let you buy boxes for real money, but change nothing else. Retards will buy that shit, and encourage blizz to make cooler shit.
>>337933239
Sure could have fooled me because every piece of advertising I see and the Blizzard store page shows the $60 first and foremost
>>337932717
It's to keep people playing the game. Skins don't change the gameplay but autists will grind until they unlock them so they can be special snow flakes.
>>337933035
I bought WoW. Why do I have to play the game to get top end raid gear?
>>337933338
thats what they're doing you fool
>>337932243
>Unlock all the cosmetics
Who cares? Each character has six (I think) cosmetics equipped and player isn't going to use more than about four with any real frequency. I assembled almost all my preferred D.Va cosmetics during the four day beta and didn't really give two shits about anything else.
>>337933361
It'd take you literally no more than five minutes to dig just a touch deeper and figure out that that's the price for the fuckin legendary edition or w/e they're calling it.
>>337933035
like i even want to unlock half of that shit, i just want some dva, tracer, phara skinsand thats all, i judt want to continue playing it.
>want to be part of the shilling and get jewed by the newest meme game
>found the open beta boring and generic
>>337932341
Go make another dark souls thread shill
We get this watered down shit instead of being able to mod and have private servers. Kind of a sorry state that FPS are in.
Seems Valve is the only company that lets you have modding support and these basic features that the industry wishes never happened.
>>337932946
Haha, what a loser. Get avidyalife, loser.
What's the point of these threads? They just cause shitposting. If you don't like it, you don't like it. If you love it, you love it. Nobody needs to know your opinion at all times.
>>337933596
>meme game
You're the problem, Anon
>>337932856
His post didn't mention summerfags retard,
>>337933639
>valve
>modding support
kek
go ask Dota 2 players about that
>>337933735
Was using a meme image part of your plan?
not a big lose
most of them are just recolor anyway
and some just plain suck like demonic one for mercy or goth for tracer.
Best is junker for D.VA and like, everything related to McCree are amazing.
Yep boys, i'm a McCree player. Have you seen the time? It's high noon AHAHAHAHAHAH.
Am i the only one still baffled by cosmetic shit in a first person game?
>>337932243
was 100% hype train for this game, but played the Battleborn beta and absolutely changed my mind.
But I don't want to unlock everything
all I need to unlock is Mercy cosmetics
Some autists already got to well over level 300 (maybe even 400+) in the closed beta and the leveling system was active for like 3 months or something.
In the open beta you leveled even faster with the 20% group bonus and the free levels from 100-122, 200-222 etc.
Reminder Overwatch exclusvely has cosmetic microtransactions, whereas TF2 has cosmetic and weapon/loadout microtransactions
>>337933815
Huh.
>>337932717
Casuals love unlocking stuff, this means that serious players can enjoy playing with all the heroes/abilities/weapons and not have gameplay content locked behind paywalls or lootboxes and casuals get to unbox stuff for fun.
>>337932862
You get gold along with items from boxes that yo ucan use to buy whatever you want. They probably should implement a way to cash in your unwanted skins for pure gold though, right now if you get a shit legendary skin it's just wasted.
>Buy Battleborn.
Those fucking cunts haven't made a good game since Hell's Highway, everything after that was massive dog shit that people only like because they were told to like it.
That's the objective truth you shit eating dirt bag.
>>337933815
Cosmetics are literally for showing off to other players. It's just dickswinging.
Also, I thought we learned our lesson about cosmetics in TF2, now we have to see Overwatch go down that same road.
>mfw working for a marketing company
>mfw Activision approach us a few months ago for advertising overwatch
>mfw paid to shill this garbage on forums
Feels good
>>337933780
Of courshe
>>337933763
you can mod Dota2 and make custom games and even play on LAN...
There's no excuse for Overwatch to not have this support you blizzard fanboy
>>337933930
>FULL BODY COSMETICS
>FIRST PERSON SHOOTER
>You can't see it, but others can
JUSTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
>>337932657
That's funny I played 18 hours and only got 1 legendary
>>337933894
I put about 120-130 hours into the beta and made it to level 160 through mostly solo queue. At that point I had all the skins and what not I wanted with another 3500 gold laying around, in total I had at least 1 legendary for each hero and the only thing I really wanted was player icons which you can't buy for gold.
In all that was probably 1100 rounds worth of playing
>>337932243
Why are you complaining about something Dota 2 has done for years now?
>>337933982
>since Hell's Highway
>implying Hell's Highway was good
>>337932243
>>337933194
this so much.
i played around 300 games during the 7 day beta.
also you can unlock the specific shit directly eventually.
also you don't need all the unlockables.
alsoi enjoy unlocking shit while also enjoying the game itself.
>>337933734
>stop talking about video games
Fuck off faggot
>>337934036
Valve reduced the amount of modding you can do to Dota 2, most mods don't work now unless you're willing to risk a VAC ban.
They only let you make custom games because it makes them money. Gaben has gone full jew (or is disconnected enough from the development process that someone else went full jew) and thats coming from a guy that used to be quite the fan 3 or so years ago
>>337934004
>mfw anon lies on the internet
>mfw he does it for free
>mfw he has no face
>>337933921
TF2 lets you trade your cosmetics or even sell them for real money, mod the game, play on LAN, have private servers, rulesets and is free.
>>337934073
You can see it at the win screen.
But then again I wouldn't expect some anime poster to have ever seen a win screen.
>>337934286
>several overwatch threads dedicated to shitposting
>video games
>>337933820
> He can't play two games
You poor retard...
>>337932881
Except you need to drop fucking GUNS in this game.
Retard.
>>337932243
Holy shit Randy. Take a lunch break.
/v/ is full of these threads.
>full price game
>can't unlock everything fair and square, have to rely on random lootboxes
>unless you buy them of course
I remember when EA did this with ME3 and DA:I and everyone hated it.
>>337934345
>TF2 lets you trade your cosmetics or even sell them for real money
>implying this is a good thing
the whole trading aspect of the TF2 items is what ruined the whole game for a couple of years.
>SFV
>have to grind out thousands of matches, complete all trials, and beat hell survival to unlock newly released characters/skins
>"Wow, based Capcom. What you aren't going to play 500 matches just to unlock a single character, what are you, casual?"
>Overwatch
>All current and future heroes/stages are free, you only have to unlock cosmetics
>"WOOOOW FUCKING JEWS I CANT BELIEVE BLIZZTARDS WILL BUY INTO THIS SHIT"
>>337934318
Whoa buddy, i don't so this shit for free. I'm salary but i just have to submit screenshots every so often to prove I'm actually doing something
>>337934398
>overwatch isnt a video game
Ok anon. Take your meds
>>337933574
>go to subway
>want a sandwich
>all the prices on the menu are for footlong subs
>order a footlong meatball marinara sub
>sandwich artist rings me up
>say I really wish they had a 6 inch sub instead of a footlong
>sandwich artist says they do, you just need to ask
>say how am I supposed to know that
>sandwich artist says now I know for next time.
Now I'm out an extra $20 due to shady marketing. Thanks Blizzard.
>>337934439
>can't unlock everything fair and square, have to rely on random lootboxes
>unless you buy them of course
but then again you only pay for lootboxes and a chance of getting the item you want.
also you can totally get everything by just playing, only normies with jobs would pay for lootboxes.
I only like the sprays.
>>337934569
>copy pasta food analogy
>>337934569
>Food analogies
>>337934224
>>337933194
Pretty much this.
People are too used to mobas where a round usually lasts at the very least twice as long as a long overwatch round and on average like 8-10 times as long.
If you're going to play overwatch on a regular basis 6000 games is really not much.
>>337932243
Yeah I rather buy Battleborn for 60 dollar and the season pass for 30$ and dont worry its made by the guys who made borderlands that was famous for having literally 3 season passes, character dlc , cosmetic dlc, and shit tons of other dlc.
No fuck you I pay 1 time 40$ and I am done with the game.I have no fucking interest to unlock game content like heroes or maps.
Jeez the battleborn shills are out in full force today.
>Guys please dont buy this $40 game with all CONTENT unlocked, where you have to play to unlock optional cosmetics. Instead please please please buy our $60 moba rip off with next to no content unlocked that you need to grind to unlock like some f2p bullshit
>>337934516
>I guess you could spend your hard earned money to buy loot boxes. Or better yet, play something like Battleborn where you can unlock everything in around two weeks of gameplay.
>implying this thread is about the game and not just an outlet to complain about something that has literally nothing to do wih gameplay
but I'm being baited right?
>>337934352
>$20 just to see it ONLY at a win screen
Wow, Anon! Great moves, keep it up, proud of you!
>>337934073
use an emote in game anon, also: >>337934352
I'm not buying your game Randy until you admit you embezzled money. Actually I still wouldn't buy your game
>>337934795
You can see it in Emotes as well.
>20$
Why the fuck would i buy a skin when i can unlock them by playing the game, are you retarded?
>>337934640
>but then again you only pay for lootboxes and a chance of getting the item
That makes it worse, why isn't this game f2p again? It has all the trappings.
Taunts or emotes how you retards call them are gameplay changing, you can't prove me wrong.
>>337932881
Except that was never the case for TF2.
>>337935001
You like men.
>>337934976
Same reason CS:GO isn't I guess
>>337933940
>casuals
Unlocking new costumes goes back all the way to the fifth gen. It was one of the things people used "cheat codes" for, unlock costumes that you had to unlock other ways.
Are you familiar with the term "cheat code" ?
>>337935001
It's about as game changing as typing something into all chat.
>>337932243
Waah! You can unlock everything in the game for free but it takes a while so it feels like an actual accomplishment.
Jesus Christ gamers are fucking faggots these days. No wonder LoL, WoW, CoD, Madden, Stagecraft, etc are the top games in their genres...
>>337934224
>37 hours
>157 wins
g i t g u d
>>337934746
60$ is just the base game and you still have to unlock heroes ingame , also you forgot that the first season pass is out and it will not be the last one.
>>337932243
Or, just use the in-game currency to buy the skins you want. Aiming each player does that, we can be ensured a ton of diversity in player appearance, making for a livelier cosmetic environment.
>>337935129
partyfag
>>337932881
last time I checked Overwatch main selling point wasnt cosmetics and I cant remember that Overwatch was selling 100$ cosmetic items like TF2.
>>337934946
>having to go through a menu JUST to see the skin you bought.
>not wanting to look at it every time
>>337934073
the skins also change your weapon.
and you can taunt to go 3rd person.
and legendary skins come with altered voicelines.
and all the other unlockable "cosmetics can be seen/heard by yourself
>>337934976
well if it was F2P you would have to unlock all the characters.
>>337935129
did you mostly queue with full team or solo queue?
i queued with 3-4 people most of the time and had the worst results in those cases.
i also never feel like i can really make a difference as mercy
>>337935001
Why?
>>337935080
This isn't a single player game, its multiplayer only. Outside of fighting games or couch coop, cheat codes have been traditionally for single player campaigns.
>>337935316
>Menu
Its one button...
Just how delusional are you shitty anime poster?
>>337935334
Usually 3 other people, a good Mercy can single handedly change the game and carry her team provided they don't get too crazy and rush in one by one.It helps that I played her for 60~ hours in the closed beta.
>>337935129
>Support bitch
Keep sucking dicks, bro. Thats probably the only reason you're accepted to the party.
>>337933338
>"If I give Blizzard money for their shitty game through buying keys, they will surely use it to make actual fun games!"
Read how retarded you sound.
if you give Blizzard money when they make shit games, they will continue to make shit games since fuckfaces like you pump money in it.
Only reward them with your cash when they make something decentaka not overwatch
>>337934569
>sandwich artist
>food analogies
>>337935492
yea i guess the experience helps.
no matter how good you are as mercy if your teammates can't kill shit / won't cooperate properly you are mostly fucked.
>putting a year of your life into a, for lack of a better word, hobby, in the name of mastery or completion is bad or too demanding
the games take like fifteen minutes a pop that's only going to amount of a couple actual months put into the game anyhow, actual running clock.
casual scum my fucking first WoW character had months upon months of logged-in time by the time i handed him off to my brother, nevermind the couple thousand hours i've dropped into space games.
overwatch was wicked fun, bastion was absolutely silly. i'll buy it well past release.
>>337935576
YEAH BRUH XDD
"YOU THINK YOU ARE HAVING FUN BUT YOU ACTUALLY DONT"
>2 months before that
>You think you want to play vanilla but you dont
>OMG FUCK BLIZZARD HOW ARE THEY SO EVIL, WHO THE FUCK ARE THEY TO TELL ME IF I AM HAVING FUN WITH VANILLA OR NOT:
>>337935702
God damn, it is so aggravating when you're playing Mercy and the people you're healing/buffing just let enemies walk straight past them to attack you.
>>337932243
obviously, since you can only use one skin at a time, there's almost no point to unlocking anything further after you've got the skins for the characters that you want, which could take all of 20 games
>>337935981
but then again having a shitty mercy is also terrible.
>play reinhardt
>put shield up to protect my team
>mercy heals/damage buffs me instead of shooting or damage buffing
this might be the worst thing i experienced during open beta.
>>337935702
Thats why I play zenyatta when I go pubbing. Shitters cant cover me so I go kung fu on the enemy while I still heal.
>>337932946
Dumbass faggot
>>337932946
Top tier bait
>>337932243
So are we just okay with Battleborn shills shitting up this board? I mean it's your business what you let slide, it's your shitty board I'm just asking for clarification why your mods haven't done shit to stop Anthony Burch and his menagerie.
>It's another dead on arival- I mean Battleborn thread
Literally 4,000players.
It's Evolve all over again.
>>337936565
Evolve looked like it could be fun and with a little care it could have been, but battleborn was just a bad idea form the start.
>>337933734
No one cares about Battleborn threads if they are not about shitting on Overwatch too.
Dead game.
>>337936750
The DLC also killed Evolve. The betas went on for to long and were given to too many people, so everyone got burned out before release.
The HUD for Battlenorn is also a complete clusterfuck, it looks like that old image, you know the one I'm talking about, the one with the finger less glove meter and the semen bar?
>>337933638
Dark Souls is a better game
>>337937026
It's eerie how similar it is
>caring this much about cosmetics
K E K
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
You mean I have to actually PLAY the game to unlock stuff?
What the fuck? I didn't buy this game to PLAY it.
I'm not a fucking NERD.
>Complaining about needing to play a game
Bravo /v/.
>>337937132
Thats one hot opinion
Don't you need to unlock actual characters in battleborn?
>>337938534
you need to unlock:
>characters
>random loot gear that changes gameplay
>advanced skill tree options on a per character bases
the game is heavily flawed as a 60$ title, at least you can't pay even more to speed up the process of unlocking shit.
>>337932946
Have you ever played a beta before you 12 year old little shit?
>>337938706
Wait you also need to buy it for full price?
Full price + character unlocking + advanced skill tree is full fucking retard. What's wrong with Gearbox?
>>337932243
How is this a bad thing? There's literally so many unlockable goodies that it'll take a year to get them all. That's fucking awesome and incentive to keep players around longer. Rocket League pretty much does the same thing.
>game is $40 in Yanksville
>fucking £45 in Britistan
WHAT THE FUCK
REEEEEE
>>337937132
confirmed shill
>>337938932
they made exactly 1 ok game. wich is borderlands 1. wich has an amazing concept of melting Diablo and first person shooting.
after that it went all downhill.
now they tried a cashgrab by combining Dota and FPS, and releasing it for console full price, while also having the league of legends model of having to unlock everything.
worst developers, totally out of touch and no idea what they are doing.
>>337939049
If by Yankville you mean the US then nah it's $60 dollhairs here too, although I think PC has the option to buy a watered down version for $40 but that's it.
>>337932243
>Play a week
>Get enough money to buy Stoneheart skin
>Unlock whatever over time and save up money untill they add more Reinhardt stuff.
>>337932243
>6000 matches figure being relevant
>reasonable expectation is that people only touch maybe half the roster
>lets assume someone actually plays every character
>ever wanting more than one or 2 legendary skins on one character
>ever wanting more than 2 or 3 sprays on one character
>the 6000 match figure being relevant
>>337939283
>>337939273
man i hope they add a "random" option for taunts voicelines and sprays and possibly skins too.
it seems so retarded to only have it for Highlight intros.
>>337932243
Who the fuck cares, its only cosmetic.
>b..but muh cut content!
Ever heard of don't like it don't buy it? Stop fucking complaining and grow up
What's the problem?
I have tens of thousands of games in Dota2 and TF2. Overwatch games are much faster. Also I don't care about cosmetic shit lol.
>>337932856
This just means that the regular users leave and the summerfags just fill the void
>>337932243
This pretty much proves this game is gonna have micro-transactions out the ass later on, that's why I've been in the fence about buying it.
It's a damn shame since its a pretty fun game.
>>337938932
Conning idiots like op. Their specialty
>>337934461
in what way did it ruin the game? Stop being so dramatic. Trading didn't ruin CSGO, it just attracted millions of players to the game.
>>337939606
Even if you think it's fun now, there's no fucking content. At best, they'll release a couple of maps every year which you'll be bored of in days.
TF2 was fun for so long because there were different maps to play.
>>337932243
I could also not give a shit about cosmetics, and dictate the games I play based on stuff that actually matters.
6k matches isn't that much desu senpai
>>337939805
OW has better maps. TF2 has had exactly two good maps ever.
>>337935041
it takes like 0 effort to get the weapons you want in TF2. They're basically free.
Listen guys. If you prefer Overwatch, fine. That's valid but don't act like it's for some sort of reason like microtransactions, because the effect of microtransactions on TF2's gameplay is practically nonexistent. When a new weapon comes out I usually got it within an hour of playing.
How much stuff do you actually want to unlock though? There are at best a handful of skins I really like. Don't give a shit about pallet swaps and sprays. Can't see it taking too long to do. I'll never wrap my head around the autists that absolutely have to collect Everything no matter how shitty it is.
>>337932243
So what, about 3000 hours of game time give or take?
>>337939794
CSGO is all about matchmaking 5v5
people can't idle in that, they lose ranks.
in TF2 you had to deal with people idling, idling servers became very very popular. and servers were filled with people wanting to trade.
it has toned down since then, but it was REALLY bad for a long long time.
also CSGO is a little different.
the skins that are worth shit are only in crates wich cost money, and people use the market place to trade.
TF2 had the trading for years without the marketplace iirc.
>>337940037
dude i love both overwatch and TF2.
but saying Overwatch has better maps is fucking rediculous.
80% of the non KOTH maps are based around chokepoints and holding said chokepoints.
fucking hanamura and anubis point A are rediculously poorly designed with only 1 point of entry.
love the KOTH map parts with the bottomless pits especially The Well
>>337940118
1500hrs - skins obtained with tokens
>>337940043
lol new weapons go for atleast a couple rec on the week of release and you have to be extraordinarily lucky to 1) not have exhausted your week's drops already 2) to even get the weapons you want
>>337940037
that's just an opinion. TF2 has lots of great maps, and also tools to make your own.
Overwatch will never have a mapmaker or modding tools. Ever. And it will never have custom servers with fun community gamemodes like VS Saxton Hale mode. Ever.
>>337939805
>Even if you think it's fun now, there's no fucking content. At best, they'll release a couple of maps every year which you'll be bored of in days.
This was actually the biggest problem for me with OW I got bored pretty quickly in the beta because 2 game modes and only a few maps really take the fun out quick
And another problem was to many choke points in most maps, some maps really need other pathways for flanking because that shit can be infuriating having to go through a choke point and just immediately dying.
>>337940442
>atleast a couple rec
you're grasping at straws. Just admit it's like no effort to get whatever new weapon comes out. If not being able to have it the minute it comes out is such a burden to you then pony up the $40 for Overwatch.
I just hope my first legendary drop after launch is a character I really like.
I got the plague doctor skin for Reaper, which is pretty cool and makes him tolerable, but teams in solo queue usually already have an assassin (usually a Genji or Tracer)
>>337940663
>21 classes
>12 maps
>4 game modes
those are the facts.
if that's not enough RELEASE DAY content for you then you probably never played year 1 of Team fortress 2
choke pointy maps are indeed a problem though.
>>337940680
>Just admit it's like no effort to get whatever new weapon comes out.
looks like we disagree on the premise
>>337939805
>>337940663
A game like this really needs restricted competitive ranked modes to obsess over or modding and community tools like TF2 had.
I played TF2 for so long because there was literally endless content to explore in custom maps. They were kinda ugly and awkward sure, but something always fresh made me feel like I was playign within a community rather than just another FPS. Obviously I strongly advocate for Overwatch to get some sort of modding tools...
On the other hand I'm sure Blizz will support Overwatch well, it just sucks that it'll be purely on Blizzard's timeline without the community being able to help.
>>337933982
>borderlands was going to be an awesome open world dungeon diving weird procedurally generated gun loot-athon on a harsh and unforgiving planet full of big monsters
>some intern spilled coffee on the internal server and they remade the game from scratch to be a "cel-shaded" cartoony linear shooter with bad writing and nerf guns that looked like an uglier Crackdown
that's when I stopped caring about Gearbox in any way
>>337937026
>>337936750
>>337936565
>Evolve
mandatory
>>337934224
>>337935129
Is this what were doing now?
>>337933940
If you get a duplicate item from a box, it turns it into coins. The coins can then be used to buy other stuff.
So you can't give away unwanted stuff but at least you won't get stuck with duplicates.
>people in this thread don't like extra items being unlocked to keep you at least a bit interested in the game as time goes on
>they'd rather unlock everything right away within the first few weeks and become bored of the game quicker
>grinding in a game with your bros isn't a favorite past time to them
filthy filthy casuals, I feel sorry for you, I really do
>>337940867
The first ever loot box I opened on overwatch got me the blanca skin for reaper. Didn't realize how rare it was until I noticed I only had 3 legendaries by the time the beta was over
>>337941191
the grind/unlocking should never be the goal.
the path is the goal.
playing the game should be fun enough even without unlocks.
unlockable cosmetics should just be the icing on the cake.
and i feel like Overwatch has the perfect model in that regard.
TF2 had unlockable weapons, wich always pissed me off.
>>337941191
i usually play video games for their gameplay rather than unlocking skins
Honest question here
Shouldn't the extra stuff like cosmetics be free since your paying $40 upfront or at the very least not take many matches to unlock?
its fucking sad how developers these days can get away with this shit and even more so when people defend this horrible practice.
You can bet your ass Blizzard or at the very least Activision will get greedy if this game is successful and will introduce DLC or other bullshit just like WoW did.
>play a shit game instead, because the cosmetic items are easier to unlock
This battleborn shilling is getting old. The people who were interested in the game played it during open beta and either liked it and bought it already, or didn't like it and wont buy it.
>>337941471
>TF2 had unlockable weapons, wich always pissed me off.
Noone dictated to you that unlocks were the goal of TF2. I play with vanilla weapons to this day without issue.
>>337941614
its a progression system though, a nice little thing tacked on top of the already fun gameplay.
>>337933361
Lol that's because you can only get the base version from battle.net every other site sells the 60 version.
>>337941581
why not both? sometimes its fun to set a goal for unlocks in a game I like
>>337941860
this is just my personal opinion, but i feel like having less options than my opponent is a form of Pay2win
wich always pisses me off.
i know other people consider other things P2W or not P2W so this is just my opinion.
>>337941614
games have had unlockable content since the beginning. It's nothing about "these days"
It's a cosmetic choice. If you bitch over not being able to color your armor purple, then you're entitled to never play that game if it bothers you that much. People like unlockable things, and this is a good middle ground to fit the needs of many people.
>>337942013
I feel the same way. Honestly if they add weapon unlocks to overwatch I'll drop it
>>337941614
When you buy Dark Souls do you get all the weapons and armors and titanite shards in the game because you payed full price for a game?
Blizzard isn't making you cough up more than you've already payed because Lootboxes exist at every levelup. But there's a sense of progression every time you play just like there is in most other games.
>>337940037
Ah, good old upward and granary.
>>337941614
It would kill the longevity of the game.
Many people play only so that they can unlock more things and when there's nothing more to unlock, they finally realize what a shitty game they've been playing.
>>337942147
>>337942013
This. I love TF2 and put tons of hours into it, but the item/unlock system bloated the game up to hell. Overwatch is nice because it goes back to just being about classes with a specific purpose and load out. It feels more refined like the old TF2 was
>>337932243
well i only plan on playing 5 heroes and i only need one skin for each. Unlocking sprays and voice lines are not really needed for anything.
>>337932243
Why the fuck people keep comparing Overwatch to Battleborn? They are two different games.
People complain about micro-transactions for random look boxes that give noting more than cosmetics. Wew lad.
>>337933815
Fucking this. Lala poster being 1000% correct.
Literal dick swinging and it isn't even based on skill. It's based on how less of a life you have.
>>337936195
tf2 babbies who think they have to heal the big guy
>it's just cosmetics! Why is it so important!
>if they are so important, why do they have to be unlocked?
>>337932243
Battlekek
>>337943020
To give people the impression they're doing something besides wasting what little time they have left on this rock playing Oberwootch
>>337932717
because then you would have even more mouthbreathers asking what's the point of playing the game
this ADD generation needs to feel like their special snowflake self is progressing every second
I blame mobile games where energy is based on time
>>337941614
Unlocking stuff never been a bad thing, people forgets that unlocking colors and shit isnt that strange, on the other hand there is the option to be a lazy fuck and unlock them with real money which is a ok thing also for people who cant play that much. If valve games had this system the cosmetics wouldnt have killed the community that much, but they were almost completly locked behind a paywall. The deal with this unlocks is that you get random from a loot box that doesnt need a key to be opened and are completly free just for playing the game without any RNG chances.
You heard it here first, having to unlock characters is better than being able to unlock optional cosmetics only, says OP
>>337933239
is $40 for PC, $60 for the origin and console versions
>>337943463
Unlocking stuff is an artificial method of maintaining someone's attention. The game should be fun enough to do that itself.
>>337932243
If you enjoy the game enough in the first place, I don't see how that many matches is a problem.
I played a pretty large amount of matches during the beta, and that was just 7 days.
>>337943615
>have to pay money for cheats now
Blizzard can suck my dick. I'm not buying this new cash cow of theirs. Fuck them. And most people forget that you're never buying a Blizzard game these days. You're a;ways buying an Activision game.
>>337941614
Do you immediately get every single weapon in a game because you paid for it? Should FFX just come with the grid completely filled out already because you paid money for it?
>>337943672
And it is. It's fucking fun. People are complaining about withdrawal after open beta. Not because they can't unlock more loot boxes but because they just want to play the fucking game. Unlocking stuff is just a bonus to keep people who are on the fence engaged. It's literally the least intrusive skinnerbox system right now.
>>337943672
Too bad, every game does it because the devs aren't confident enough that their game is good enough to do that on gameplay alone
>>337943828
>withdrawal
It amazes me how easy companies these days can make gamers feel withdrawal. It seems the lack of competent games have created the perfect breeding ground for companies with a lot of money to create artificial demand and hype and make the masses believe they are buying the best game ever.
>>337932243
>unlock everything in around two weeks of gameplay.
What the fun in that?
It take a a bit more than a month (42 days) assuming matches last 10 minutes on overwatch.
>>337943828
Unlocking shit is never fun.
>>337944031
>Artificial fun
>>337940892
See, most of the hyper casuals on /v/ and reddit never played TF2 until it went f2p and became a hat simulator. They think it had multiple loadouts and manco shit since launch because they're retarded.
>>337944218
Matches do last 10 minutes in overwatch anon.
>>337944340
Unless its unlocking through RNG like 5% drops or shit like that, yes it is.
>>337944394
That actually does exist as a condition. Casinos already have that figured out, how to get the signals in the brain to fire correctly to stimulate around the region people think is considered the feeling of fun or engaging.
>6000 matches is a lot
>matches are usually around 10 mins
>60k mins = 1k hours = 41 days
>invest a full year
huh
>>337932243
Fucking cosmetics.
You faggots don't whine when games like league of legends, team fortress, battlefield, etc. etc. need you to play to unlock things that actually affect fucking gameplay but suddenly it's bad when you can unlock things that are only cosmetic...
You don't even have to do unlock this, hell, they didn't even have to include this into the game, its just a addition to the game.
>>337932243
>>337933820
STILLBORN
>>337944514
>I want devs to put stuff behind an arbitrary wall so I can pretend that I'm achieving something by unlocking them
>>337944607
It doesn't take into account updates/heroes and skin additions over time.
>>337933183
what the fuck are you talking about you upset nigger
>>337944641
>implying /v/ is one person again
There's always people complaining about this shit in games cause it sets a bad precedent. Even though the same thing existed back on classic console games, at least cheat codes existed so you could bypass it all.
>Play game
>Have fun with gameplay
>Get fun skins sometimes too
They're not charging money for any new characters or maps that come out in the future, so I can deal random drops of cosmetics.
>>337944825
>They're not charging money for any new characters or maps that come out in the future
Every game company has said this and lied everytime.
>believing in activision's lies.
Son, you're about to be taught a good lesson of how to be a goyim.
>>337944673
Those walls are reached with just playing the game, you mean you dont want to play the game and have everything at the start? now that would kill most games.
>>337944552
>you feel fun but you really dont
le fedora to you
>>337945054
Bitch, unlocking shit should not be part of a game ever. The gameplay is the game itself. I cannot believe gamers are so tricked to believe that this shit is a good thing.
>>337944983
>Every game company has said this and lied everytime.
Prove it.
>believing in activision's lies.
>activision
But it's Blizzard. Not much better, but it IS better.
>>337945104
You don't need a fedora to see bullshit.
>>337932243
literally just cosmetics
who gives a fuck
jesus
>>337945157
>unlocking shit should not be part of a game ever.
You're everything wrong with games these days.
>>337945183
>But it's Blizzard. Not much better, but it IS better.
>what is Activision blizzard
>>337945157
>The gameplay is the game itself
and there are no unlocks in overwatch that affect the gameplay in the slightest
>>337945157
>Bitch, unlocking shit should not be part of a game ever.
never played racing, fighthing, adventure and many other genres didnt you? and Im talking about old games.
>>337945157
Yeah, fucking games making me PLAY them! You unlock cool fetures and alternate play modes, new game plus and silly cheat codes for beating a game? THAT'S STUPID, I GET EVERYTHING NOW, MEMEMEME
i've racked up thousands in league where games last 30-40 minutes on average. 6k in overwatch doesn't seem like if it turns out to be a game which people play for years to come.
>>337945183
"Blizzard" hasn't been Blizzard since War3, MAYBE Vanilla WoW if you're generous. Literally the entire team, the people who MADE Blizzard a household name, LEFT the company before or during WoW's time. Noone left at "Blizzard" is anyone who ever MADE Blizzard good. This is why SC2, D3, and the last 3 WoW Expansions have been complete shit and nowhere near old Blizzard quality.
It's time to let go, anon. Just like Bioware being eaten up by EA, Blizzard has been eaten by Activision and is no longer the good game-making company it once was.
>>337945278
I'm everything right with games. You didn't need to unlock shit to get Mario's fire powerup from an item box directly in game. You didn't need to unlock shit to make the ghosts be different colors in Pac Man. Unlocking shit came around because some companies figured it was a cheap way to make players believe they are achieving something. And guess what: that's where the cancer known as achievements spawned from, the worst offender of this.
>>337944983
>TF2
All weapons that change gameplay can be found in a random drop or traded for.
>>337932856
summer was real back in like 09 but now every kid is shitposting on their phones
>>337933035
(you)
>>337945351
That's where you're wrong
>cosmetics affect your in game appearance and aesthetics
This is affecting gameplay. Now instead of being a gray Winston, you're now a banana colored one. Or you're a Symmetra with a Shiva outfit. Or you can now spray different logos on walls. This is what happens when you're brainwashed for so long believeing
>cosmetics don't affect gameplay!
Bunch of dumbasses.
>>337945521
you literally unlock new levels in mario games. in fact, every game on this planet has unlocks, even in donkey kong you have to play to unlock a new stage.
>>337945521
>You didn't need to unlock shit to get Mario's fire powerup from an item box directly in game.
what about mario 64 then smart guy
>>337932243
>Or better yet, play something like Battleborn
How is that better? that game is shit, and a waste of time too.
A grindfest does not make another game better. You need 1,375 hours to do everything? There are people who have played tf2 twice as much. The reasoning is both that cash from impatient fucks will keep the game going, and will incentivize players to keep playing as a way to have an active community, BattleBorn plans to have no one playing this time next week. Shit has LESS players than The Division.
>>337945821
progressing through maps =/= unlocking anything else
Going through levels is the game itself. That is the natural essence of moving forward through a game. Unlocks in the sense of cosmetics or other optional shit is not a linear experience.
>>337933338
that's exactly
what
they
are
doing
The game is fully playable for everyone day one, no pay2win and no "leveling up" to get invincible, but you can get cosmetics through progression without paying a cent or buying loot boxes.
>>337945521
Zelda gives you a second quest by beating the game. SMB2 has you unlocking entire extra worlds by beating the game in particular ways. Almost any fucking game on the planet gives you some thing or another by beating the game at least once. You have to beat a level to unlock the next. You have to beat the game to see the ending sequence.
You are literally cancer.
>>337937026
>>337945984
>progressing through maps =/= unlocking anything else
Wrong by your rule you should have acces to the last map just by pressing new game. Progression makes you unlock them.
>>337946012
>buying lootboxes
citation needed
How is gold awarded in loot boxes? Do they sometimes just give you a set amount or are they there replacing items you previously got?
I'm more hoping there are opportunities to get gold other than through loot boxes like potentially giving a reward for weekly brawls.
>>337945858
In Mario 64, unlocking powerups was about moving through the game and naturally introducing you to different gameplays so you can be ready to meet the new next mechanic along the way. It was built into the game's way of making the player naturally flow from level to level without overwhelming them with a large number of game mechanics right off the bat.
The unlocks you guys speak of have no effect whatsoever on the gameplay. They only exist to make you play the game longer
>playing the game for the year is already a good tool for Activision to force you to keep playing their game
The very fact that a lot of the characters are beautiful women is another factor. They know you guys will unlock their outfits for the waifu factor.
>>337946048
>>337946163
Just ignore him, he's either mentally retarded or baiting, and neither deserves the time of day.
>>337946242
gold is a random drop of random rarity just like any other item, and it ranged from 50-500 gold per drop
if you get a double, you get a small gold amount like 5-50 or something.
>>337946048
And you're a fucking idiot. You're equating unlocking a full level of gameplay to a fucking costume. One gives me an actual gaming experience. The other is something to make me a different color. You're retarded if you honestly believe these two are one and the same.
>>337946285
>The unlocks you guys speak of have no effect whatsoever on the gameplay. They only exist to make you play the game longer
>THE COMPANY IS FORCING YOU TO PLAY THE GAME MORE! THEY'RE TRICKING YOU INTO GETTING MORE TIME FOR YOUR MONEY!
Stop, dude, this is pathetic.
>The very fact that a lot of the characters are beautiful women is another factor.
good lord, do you have no self control?
