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I assume Doom Guy made it a priority to wipe out all the Arch-viles
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I assume Doom Guy made it a priority to wipe out all the Arch-viles and that is the reason they are not in the new game?
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>>337915784
You haven't heard about the Arch-vile DLC comin out? Pft, dweeb.
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I never understood how to dodge its attacks
Unfun as shit enemy to fight
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I assume it's because the new movement speed would have made it too difficult to duck into cover to avoid them in time, or that their attacks were just too different for the modern shooter audience.
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>>337915784
Theres the summoner, I just assumed they took over those assholes.
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>>337916730
You have to hide behind a wall. It can even be really skinny. Basically you just want to make it so he doesn't have a direct line of sight on you
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>>337916730
You HAVE to get behind something. If it fires it hits you otherwise almost instantaneously. Its like taking 80% damage from a rocket.

First thing you hear it's agro noise, find where it is, and find a wall.
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>>337917218
>>337917228
Oh so thats how it worked, I remember hopping around like an idiot trying to avoid it, I just turned paranoid and filled its ass with rockets anytime I encountered one.
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>>337917065

This. They're just as annoying, anyway.
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>>337917429
I always fill him with rockets too, even with the super shotgun he still took a good number of hits from what I remember.
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>>337915784
I think the role is mostly replaced by the summoner.

Differences make sense.

Archvile revives dead demons, but new Doom doesn't leave their carcasses. So Summoner summons new demons.

New arena layout instead of old maze layout makes the line of sight move incompatible with new Doom's gameplay.
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>>337916730
If he can see you then you are dead.

It makes sense he is not in the game since the bodies disappear but it is a shame.
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It's called DOOM not DOOM II you fucking Imp.
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>>337916730
You get behind a wall

Thats it
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Hey guys what's going on in there, oh shi-
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>>337918501
I'm sorry, did I hear that right?

NO CORPSES IN DOOM 4?
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>>337917228
I think it works off line of sight, so if you hide behind another monster you should be fine.
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>>337920159
Would you like your cpu melted or deepfried sir?
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>>337920114
Any arch-vile lewdness for h-doom yet?
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>>337920159

They disintegrate after while. Which is fine because there would be too many bodies.
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They'll be in the sequel DOOM II (2018)
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>>337920413
Mods will fix it
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>>337920159
>What kind of framerate you want senpai?
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>>337920114

Quick, Anon! Run up and kick it in the junk!
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>>337915784
You're kidding right? No fucking Arch-Viles?


Well. There goes any chance of me getting the new Doom.
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>>337920159
You ever tried playing Killing Floor 2 with dead bodies turned on permanently? Your system fries after 15 minutes, same would apply to this game.
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>>337920159
They burn like in 3.
But is not that bad.
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>>337920459
If they do this please let them use the same engine like with the original last thing we need is another fucking doom 3 that game was SHIT
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>>337915784
Nuduum can't handle more than 13 enemies so an Archville wouldnt even be fun anyway
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Why is doomguy so mad in this game?
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>>337920541
>mods
>DOOM

Nope, only SnapMap
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>>337920870
I don't think you need to worry about anything anon, id Tech is developed by id themselves and they have been using it since RAGE, it's unlikely that they'll drop the engine any time soon. Also the engine is pretty great, Wolfenstein TNO runs on the same engine and runs like butter.
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>>337921279
He has to sit through shitty scripted events every now and then. I'd be pretty pissed off too
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>>337921035
So what is the summoner?

>>337921279
>kill all the demons once and stay in hell to keep them from coming back
>tricked by demons into a trap
>wake up later only to find out that earth has done more bullshit with hell and once again got fucked up
>being told by some corperate shitfuck that it was "for the good of humanity"

Gee i fucking wonder
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>>337920648
Archvile got replaced with Summoner since corpses despawn to keep frames. Enemy can 'teleport' around the place, and has a dodgeable flame column attack which is fairly fast, I don't know how they could've handle good old Archi's attacks with the fact LoS is hard to break in the larger rooms that Summoner tends to spawn in.
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Love the archviles, is a shame they are gone.
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>>337921332
rage and TNO ran and scaled pretty well but doom is bloated as shit
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>>337920159
Modern engines are not designed to cope with leaving dead bodies around without doing tricks that makes the idea of corpses pointless in the first place.
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>>337921530

There's going to be expansion DLC 100%. I would expect them to return.
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>>337921494
He was in Hell? Since when?
Is that part of the story?
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>>337917429
>hopping around
>in Doom 2
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>>337920667
But Killing Floor has hundreds of enemies per round. DOOM has, what, like 5 enemies per level?
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>>337921584
Eh, I'm running DOOM just fine, on high settings I can get solid 60fps, even when the combat is intense, and my GPU is not even that good (GTX 960). The only id Tech game that runs like shit as far as I can tell is The Evil Within.
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>>337921584
>bloated as shit
>runs pretty well on my old gtx 780 and fx 8320 combo
>and only 8 gigs of ram

Stop pulling things out of your ass
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>>337921712

The Doomguy story is literally him being stuck in hell endlessly killing them putting them to shame. So all the demons could do is encase him and restrain him while they made up stories that he was some demigod or some shit.
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Doom 3 version was OK.
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>>337921584

Both of those games look like ass compared to Doom and run accordingly.
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>>337921712
It's fanon that Doom Guy went through Doom 1, 2 and 64, stayed in hell with Doom 64, and fucked shit up for an indefinite amount of time until trapped in a coffin, once again for an indefinite amount of time. The fan part being that it's the same Marine from 1, 2 and 64.
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>>337918501
Stop lying, all the levels are open and have enemies throughout them. The arenas are just the biggest fights. Level three, foundry, is the most maziest and doom like.
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>>337921584
Dont pretend like TNOs launch wasnt buggy as all fuck
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>>337921815
I agree It runs fantastic, everything on High on a GTX 780.

I was really afraid about the engine but looks like they fix that terrible mega textures quality.
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>>337921850
>gets soul cube out
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>>337921712
At the end of Doom II, he remained in hell to hunt demons.
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>>337921954
I need to play that 64 version.

So this is basically Doom 3. A real sequel of the original games. That is cool.
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>>337921850
I think is a she...I see a camel toe.
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>Archvile's death scream is recording of a little girl saying "why?" which was reversed and altered
Talk about good design.
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>>337922209
Ehh, It's not too DOOM-y, gameplay wise, it's a really solid game nonetheless, but it feels very vertical-movement heavy. Game feels a LOT like Quake, actually.
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>>337922141
No Rest for the Living makes it sound like Doomguy left, and cameback because he found out more demons were coming to Earth

but maybe i forgot the whole dialogue
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>>337922589
The way enemies attack you and your weapons work as well as level design is like Doom
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>>337922573
>BOOOOO.gif
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>>337922589
So its like doom if doom was in true 3d?
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>>337921954
How is that fanon? It's fucking comfirmed. Read the logs you simpleton.
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>>337922589
Doom in 3D?
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>>337922807
>The fan part being that it's the same Marine from 1, 2 and 64.
Nice reading comprehension, simpleton.
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>>337921841
Doomguy/Doom Marine/Doom Slayer is basically Guts with guns. I love it.
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>>337922141
He stays in Hell, shit I don't remember that.
I don't remember when was the last time I finish Doom 2.
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So the current canon timeline is
DOOM > DOOM II > DOOM64 > D44M, correct?
Doom3 doesn't fit anymore, does it?
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>>337923041
DOOM 3 can work as a prequel to the first game.
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>>337922589
64 has way too many LOLYOUREFUCKINGCRUSHEDDUDE traps
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>>337923041
Its an alternate universe
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23Zrk1AF4DA


Tuut tuut tut tuutuut tuu tuu...
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>>337923041
what the fuck is daam?
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>>337922924
oh fuck...now I realize why I love Guts. He is doomguy.
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>>337923041
The way I had it explained to me, this could either be a followup to the original Doom series, or Doom 3, whichever you prefer.
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>>337922891
It's confirmed its him. Read the logs you simpleton.
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>>337920238
Nah, it goes through monsters. Only thing that works is walls.
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>>337923334
Where does it state Doom Marine from Doom 1, 2 and 64 is the pissed off dude who is in hell. Oh wait, it never specifically states its the same Doom Marine, only implied. All that's confirmed is some pissed off dude went into hell, and fucked shit up for a long time, and is a man and a half who loves his shotguns.
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So no arch viles, OK.
Any pic of the new summoners?
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>>337916730
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJcf0aOwmiA#t=2m54s
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NO arch viles and the cyberdemon looks like a WOW boss.

Loving the game so far, but there is some stuff that still hurts.
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>>337924026
I heard the fight against him is excellent
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>>337924426
It is.
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>>337924426
It's alright, I was surprised there was a second phase to his fight. It was easily the best boss fight in the game though, but all the bosses were rather lackluster.
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>>337921731
The levels are actually pretty huge and jam packed with enemies. You don't get the 'lolfuckyou' of 50 imps behind a door, but the arena areas have a dozen or two easily. You can rack up a serious body count. Now here's the question:
>Do you want 50 to 100 bodies on every level, shitting on your frame-rate?
or
>Do you want it to run well
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>>337924426
I wouldn't call it excellent, it was solid. The final boss though was excellent.
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>>337924426
>>337925595
STOP MAKING ME EXCITED GODDAMIT
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>>337925595
>>337924426

What? they put bosses in a First Person Shooter?
What is this? The 90's?
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>>337920159
too many problems with physics engines and corpses to deal with shit loads everywhere, the math it would take.

*blows brains out*
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>>337921712
doomguy is now gifted by angles with the power of extreme speed and agility, he is the doomslayer to the demons now and nearly wiped them out of existence until the demons collapsed and entire temple on him and the armor is indestructible and was forged in hell.

so now its the doomslayer blessed by angels with a suit of armor forged in hell it's self.
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>>337925853
Black Ops 3 had boss fights
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>think the shotgun is pretty shit
>kinda annoyed
>find a super shotty in level 4
>mfw meeting a summoner for the first time shortly after and blowing him to gibs after only 4 shots
WE
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>>337921717
>what are source ports
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>>337921332
>runs like butter
>capped at 60 fps
Pick one
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>>337925853
yes and they are awesome, belive it or not but the new doom is an old school shooter with modern mechanics.
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>>337926763
What? Doom is not capped.
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>>337924026
The best part is that it's implied that it is the same cyberdemon fought in the original Doom, revived by the UAC after they found the fossilized remains in a demon temple. No wonder it's so pissed off.
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>>337926403
Get the super shotty fully upgraded. That's where the fun begins.
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>>337926902
unless you activate v sync, then you can run it at 200fps.
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>>337926908
OK, now that is really cool. He still looks like a rancor pit monster but if is the same cyber D from the old game I think is cool.
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>>337927053
ah the double tap stun lock.
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>>337927071
>What is adaptive vsync?
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Does this have support for SLI yet?
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>>337920159
It's not like the old game where the corpses are just static sprites stuck on the floor. Bodies are a lot more complex in this game and just leaving them everywhere on the map forever will drag the game down.
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>>337920648
He's actually technically in, because there's a monster called the Summoner which does most of the shit he does, just spawning monsters instead of reviving them.

To my knowledge almost every other demon from II is in the game, though. I think at least one other is missing but I've lost track of which one it is.
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>>337922141
He remains in hell in 64, actually. You mixed up the endings.
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>>337929949
Plus the fact that there are huge ass bodies like Hell Knights, Barons, and Mancubi that would be a physics nightmare to have all persist over the entire level.
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Seeing the icon of sin brought a tear to my eye.
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>>337920541
Denuvo says "HI!"
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>>337930559
>tfw you will never be fucked by a baron
;_;
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>>337926403
Fully upgraded the SSG is my main source of pain and fun
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>Bethesda
TRANSCRIPTION
ERROR
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I can't figure out if I liked the shared ammo system. Like, it makes sense and means one pick up gives you a choice in theory, but honestly after getting either mod for the chaingun, who used the assault rifle? I either didn't want to because I was saving the ammo, or couldn't because I had spent it mowing things down with the mobile turret.
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Where's the crack?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBW_R61WGYU
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>>337932517
That bunny was some scary shit.
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>>337923041
I assumed that too, but the soul cube is in Olivia's office. I know its just an easter egg, but just putting it there fucks the whole thing up lore wise.
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Anyone have any tips? I don't want my cawwadooty to show
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RIP Pissed-off Martian
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>>337934465
Shoot the enemies until they die.
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>>337934465
Keep running and try and stay some distance away unless you're going for a hit and run SSG shot.
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>>337934465
For the new one or the old one?
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>>337920373
There hasn't been an update for over a year.
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>>337932337
Is the upgraded chain gun really that great? I've mostly rolled through the game with a fully upgraded explosive combat shotgun and a fully upgraded scope assault rifle, and I find that, if you aim for heads, pretty much everything dies quickly.
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>>337934465
>Shoot the demons good
>Go fast
>Never don't go fast
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>>337926568
>jumping
>when it can break maps and is unneeded
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>>337926902
Talking about wolfenstein
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