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LITERALLY
FUCKING
>not a single boss in das3 was even half as hard as orphan
What the fuck happened?
So what was the excuse as to why the dlc didn't have a cool eldrich boss?
>>337894975
>orphan
>hard
Shit man he's just fast. No bullshit hitboxes or camera going fucking nuts to deal with, what's hard about that?
>>337894975
DLC is always harder.
>>337894987
>DLC called the old hunters
>it's about the old hunters
>>337894819
dodge left
>>337894819
Ahh Kos,or some say Kosm
First phase keep a long distance and bait out his jump/running charge attack and dodge it then smack him in the back twice then GTFO
Second phase do the same but be far more careful about when you choose to hit him. If you don't think you can close the gap between you and him in one quickstep then back off.
Fight on the water so you can easily see where his lightning is going and you don't get hung up on scenery.
Thats how I did it and I'm fucking shit at this game.
>>337895060
Even the main game, ebrietas and ghermam are harder than anything in das3. Gascoigne was tougher than everything first run too
what sounds does it make
>>337895060
In Das3 there's nothing like defiled hotdog, or abhorrent beast in Loran.
>>337894819
>orphan of kosm.jpg
>kosm
what a pleb
>>337895331
Literally nobody calls it Kosm goddamn you're so full of shit Micolash no wonder you went fucking bonkers and stuck your head in a birdcage
>>337896575
Lol. You can cheese every human boss in Bloodborne with safe parries. Even knowing that you can parry Sully he's a tougher fight than Gherman or Gascoigne.
Nameless King and Champion Gundyr are harder than anything vanilla Bloodborne has to offer.
>Ebrietas
>Hard
Am I being rused right now.
>>337896575
>Gascoigne
>harder than my mate Sully
You're just shit mate
>>337896575
The only boss in BB that comes even remotely close to Nameless King or Champion Gundyr levels of difficulty is theFUCKING HUNTER FROM EILEEN'S QUESTand Chalice Dungeon broken trash.
>>337894819
FUCKING HUNTER GET OUT OF MY BEACH
YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
>>337896575
I never understood why people said gherman was hard, i beat him on my first try through.
(granted i spent literal hours before hand getting raped by ludwig the horse so maybe by that point i had crossed the threshold)
The hardest boss I've fought In all 5 games going blind has been Amelia, shit that fight was hard.
Now that I'm over 1k hours at bloodborne, I can kill her at lvl 4 without a problem.
As far as i'm concerned those two sharks at the bottom of the well are harder than any other boss in the game. And I didn't have any shaman bone blades to turn one of them against the other.
>>337897362
No, Gherman just isn't that difficult.
>>337897452
Blood-Starved Beast STILL pushes my shit in. I can reliably kill anything in the game with maybe one death for getting too cocky but that fucking bitch still kills me at least once per playthrough. I've resorted to summoning Solaire v2.0 since it helps with stuns and takes pressure off me.
>>337897632
>Blood-Starved Beast STILL pushes my shit in.
what? Literally every single one of his moves can be easily parried, plus he goes full retard when you throw those blood jars.
>>337897693
I'm shit at parrying anything non-human in this game.
>>337897632
Oh... That guy I still remember yelling at the screen when he poison you and wait for you to use the antidote to make his grab attack and at the level you fight him (20) you can't survive that shit.
YEEEEOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWW
>>337897764
Use a rifle, I think its easiest for parrying non-humans. Shotgun is best for parrying humans imo.
>>337897632
Gascoigne gear (high posion res), and dodge to the left. When he starts mad swiping just fish for parries you'll get one.
Well /v/? Are you /kos/ or /kosm?
Nothing in the Souls series was as much of a pain in the ass as the Bloody Cainhurst Crow.
>>337897552
>slide attack
>>337897790
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0ii1E1Y1KI#t=06s
>>337898067
Not even Moldron the Ass without cheesing?
>>337898176
I haven't laughed so hard in weeks holy shit.
>>337897272
Not true. The champ is piss easy and i beat him on my first try. The nameless king is tricky but nowhere near as hard as the orphan, lawrence, or maria.
The later chalices don't really count because that's pretty much ng+ content.
>>337898550
>Comparing a game with DLC to a game without it
Don't do that. Who knows if FROM fill throw another Loyce Outskirts at us for the DLC.
>>337898649
Jokes on us for the final DLC of DaS3 we're going have to fight pinwheel again but he'll have more health than the amygdala does in the chalic dungeon and he'll summon the namless king riding pontiff sulevan into battle to fight for him.
>>337898550
All DLC bosses are harder than the base game. Manus, Fume Knight, 2cat, etc
Also BB probably seems harder than DS3 because we've all been playing Souls for 5 years now, and BB's format is different enough to be hard again
>>337898649
I don't think that the DaS 3 dlc is going to be as good as The old hunters, I hate the idea that they announced the season pass before the game even released, with bloodborne the only hint we had was a tweet by Shuhei Yoshida and that was all we had.
>>337898774
>he'll summon the namless king riding pontiff sulevan into battle to fight for him.
I may actually have some respect for the game if they did that.
>people unironically thinking that Champion Gundyr is hard
Come the fuck on.
>>337895060
>DLC is always harder.
What is this meme? The DLC is always just another iteration, of course that also makes it slightly harder. You can't suggest From takes no cues from their DLC in main games since fights like Abyss Watchers second phase is a direct Maria ripoff.
>>337898550
>muh Lady Maria
>Literally in DS3 in the Abyss Watcher fight
>piss fucking easy
Stop pretending Maria was ever a challenge in Bloodborne.
>tfw you realize dashing forward gives you massive invincibility with very little stamina depletion
that's when I started going full retard and winning
>>337898903
I had terrible expectations for the Crowns and they turned out to be my favorite part of the whole game and rank high up in my favorite areas of the series.
Come to think of it, I also had terrible expectations for AotA.
FROM DLC is one of the few vidya things that have consistently surprised me.
>>337899092
Try playing Maria without parrying her for a challengefaggot.
>>337894975
I beat Orphan in three tries my first time. Nameless King and Champion Gundyr are way harder, to be honest.
>>337899187
I mean there's a difference between never parrying and parrying her to death.
I'm not gone avoid using a game mechanic to make a boss harder i'm just not going to abuse it either.
>>337899187
She's still easy as fuck anon, that's why she's a meme in /bbg/ it doesn't matter if you parry her or not you'll get an awesome looking Anime fight that anyone can win.
>>337899281
Yeah you have. You constantly avoid using game mechanics for every boss or do you cycle through every weapon and every item for every encounter?
>>337899167
From DLC is regularly better than their main games, I think it's because they get to focus all of their effort into smaller areas
Sunken King was hands down the best part of DaS2 and the other DLCs aren't far behind
Old Hunters is fantastic
AotA was good but not as good as other DLC areas
>>337899421
I'm refering to combat mechanics, not shifting through my inventory anyone who's not a mongaloid with have that firgued out before the fight
And i'm talking making the fight a lot easier not harder
Parrying is the click of a button and can break some fights yes.
Shifting through my inventory takes forever and means i'm going to die as so as i try to do so.
By your logic yes i don't use the monocular during boss fights because i actually want to melee them.
>>337898774
Why does everyone complain about the pontiff? He really wasn't that hard, and his second stage is easy because he slows right down. As long as you can time rolls, you're fine, and he broadcasts like a fucking tv station
>>337899187
It's honestly the games fault for making bosses so retardedly easy with parrying. Before the game was even out they told you parrying is a main focus for the game and ingame it steers you towards parrying almost everything. I can choose to play Halo without shooting my gun or playing Uncharted without using cover and get more of a challenge than BB.
>>337899625
Two Alligator monsters was the hardest shit as a melee. I think it was arguably harder than the sharks guys in BB purely because of my build.
>>337898903
DS2 had a season pass, and all the DLC was great
>>337899625
I mean he'd be a lot harder if the namless king was riding him into battle like a valkyrieyeah i get what you mean about his second phase, first phase is the hardest with how relentless and long some of his combos can be.
>>337899836
Das2 dlc was good, but many people think it's better that it is just because vaati said so, nothing compared to the old hunters.
>>337897000I do
>>337899814
Oh man fuck those things, I just ran around dropping rope black fire bombs fuck trying to do that legit
>>337899187
Do any games apart from souls game attract faggots like this guy who think any single player game is hard and you're special for beating them a 'harder' way?
>>337900041
Ended up fighting both about halfway until one got stuck on a pillar and I ended up punching the shit out of them one at a time.
>>337900014
>>337897000
Am I literally the only one is the world who took that as 'Kosm' being the plural of Kos
He's basically praying to one god but saying "if there's others out there what up"
>>337900117
Final Fantasy. They think they're hot shit and hardcore for beating the game at low level when it's usually just abusing mechanics with an extremely easy pattern a 5 year old can do. They make it sound like they need to remember 500 complex algorithms to solve a low level FFVII run.
>>337896841
"Reeeeaaaaaaa."
>>337900117
Lots of single player games have 'challenge runs'
Also
>Thinking a multiplayer game can be hard
>Maybe the people you're playing with are just better than your pleb ass
>>337900553
But that's what makes them hard. People change in mp games so you'll never play the same game twice. Whereas in single player games nothing really changes and its designed to be finished.
>>337899814
Nigga just go around the corner and make the first alligator solo. Not even that hard when you hug it's ass from the side
>>337900867
Are you saying a structured experience designed by professionals is going to be on the whole worse than shitheads online playing the same maps with the same weapons over and over
You are just playing the same game over and over again the only difference is which faceless cunt is going to be screaming memes over the voice chat
>>337900916
No matter what I did I could not only aggro one, I even tried shooting it with an arrow, their aggro is linked, you got lucky and the one on the left got stuck on a pillar
>>337901147
You can bait him by just walking slowly towards him and make him do his retarded charge-slide attack. Run back to the corner with the ladder and BTFO of that nigger
>>337896575
Now that's fucking bullshit. Gascoigne is the most easily cheesed boss in all of Souls.
>>337897790
what did he mean by this?
>>337899949
>Das2 dlc was good, but many people think it's better that it is just because vaati said so
Even when vaati and enb are regularly mocked here?
I can assure you my opinion of the DaS2 dlc is my own, since I don't watch any video game youtube people
>>337899836
sunken king is shit and anybody that says otherwise has shit taste
>>337901791
How can you be so wrong, Sunken King was the best part of the entire game
>>337901791
The only shit part is the Nash clone
Sinh was the best boss in the game up until that point
>>337899240
>everyone thinks gundyr is hard
are ye pullin me leg m8
>>337899240
>lautrec having problems with gaping dragon
Jesus christ, what a shitterEveryone knows Iron Golem is the REAL challenge
>>337899618
You retard, I'm not talking about browsing your inventory.
It's about using shit like using molotovs and cannons on bosses and all kind of items like that.
Or in DS bosses just using bow and arrow or upgrading magic to full and nuking them like nothing.
Not using parry is akin to not using a bow to cheese a fight. There's no special theory involved here, if you weren't such a faggot you'd have figured this out yourself.
>>337899721
Go parry Ludwig then. The point of challenges are to self-impose the less-easy tactic.
>but muh game is at fault for allowing me
If you had a one-kill button for every boss, you'd use that, spend 10 minutes finishing the game and never touch it again? Fucking faggot.
>>337900117
I bet you use summons and overlevel like crazy then say you got the full dark souls experience.
>>337896575
I don't see why Ebrietas is considere that hard. You just have to watch out for literally one attack.
>>337897000
http://www.strawpoll.me/10235437
I first fought him on NG+ and he is hands-down the toughest Souls boss I've fought.
I would not be surprised if I died 100 times.
>>337895331
>AAAooooo
what did he mean by this?
>>337897336
underated post
>>337897117
>champion gundyr
>hard
nope. the champ just punishes retardation. This was at SL 60-70, and most of the DaS3 community is running SL 120 and still struggling.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-1WmpBZVCs
>>337905616
>nope. the champ just punishes retardation.
This is the truth, if you actually know how to dodge he is piss easy
Hint: don't roll right into where he is going to attack next
>>337894975
Namco Bandai
>>337894987
There was going to be 2 DLCs of AotA size, and the first one was going to end on Maria. The second was going to be adventures in the Fishing Hamlet but Miyazaki was worried about not having enough time to work on DaS3 so he asked Sony if they could do one DLC instead. They were hoping to foster a good relationship with him and get more From exclusives in the future and Bloodborne performed really well so they allowed him to make just the one. The Fishing Hamlet was basically everything they'd done of the second DLC which they put in at the end and focused on polishing Orphan, who was the most story important boss in the DLC, instead of rushing to get another 3 done. Of those 3, they were probably more eldritch focused than the bosses in TOH and Orphan who was meant to be a blend of hunter style bosses and alium style bosses.
Ebrietas was the most annoying boss and not even because she's hard, but because you have to wrestle your camera throughout the whole fight
>lock on and any move she does make your view spin liek crazy
>stay close to the body and you can't see any wind-ups
>stay away from the body and she does a tackle that one-shots you
>>337899240
I smacked the shit out of gundyr first try, but shit , there is almost 0 down time in that fight .
Nameless king pissed me off hard, after getting him down go a nut hair of health and then dying , I proceeded to not give a fuck anymore, I just button mash and acted with 0 strategy.
Killed him. Guess I was being too careful.
Either way fuck that boss.
Orphan of Kos is the hardest boss in any Dark Souls game. The way he jumps around the room, the amount of damage he does, and his general relentlessness are unmatched in the series. Even once you know his moveset 100% the fight is still a true test of patience, waiting for windows where you can actually attack safely or risk being ohko'd.
Compare that to the nameless king. Sure I died to him a ton first playthrough, and then not at all on subsequent playthroughs and ng+. Once you know all his moves, the fight is a breeze. All his moves are readable, he stands relatively still, and gives you plenty of windows to do damage, not to mention being staggered multiple times during the fight. He doesnt have shit on the orphan.
>>337902796
>supports intentionally not using a core game mechanic while using some incredibly stupid analogy
>calls someone else a retard
Ironing.
If From wanted the fight to be done without parrying, they wouldn't have put it in.
They already made it so you couldn't parry Artorias or Fume Knight in games where you can parry Gwyn and Velstadt, so the decision was intentional.
>>337905993
Lock onto her torso not her head. It's still tough but the camera doesn't spaz out unless you walk under her head.
buy a fucking bloodrock you fuck
Probably the hardest in souls, and i don't even play 30fps games.
Saw enough of the fight to tell you have almost no time to get in and punish.
>>337894975
>souls game
>hard
you didn't overlevel?
>>337894819
BB bosses take so fucking long to kill.
>>337903081
>just bait her headslam bro!
>she randomly decides to charge you 5 times in a row instead
>you literally cant dodge the charge
>it is literally recommended to just eat it because if you try to dodge you will take extra damage from the counter mechanic
Seriously though, I find her really easy on some of my builds and ridiculously hard on some of the others. It makes a lot of difference just what playstyle you're going with against bosses.
>>337896575
>Gascoigne
In an honest fight (not involving getting him stuck at the stairs), this is probably the hardest boss on your first run of the game. Ebrietas can be fucking hard if you can't kill her fast enough, but if you have strong DPS or a way to hit her head from afar, she's pretty easy.
This is one of the things I really like about bloodborne. The bosses you struggle with are heavily dependent on your build.
>>337900175
Also, mother kos could just have been the one in the DLC that was pregnant. You know, the mother kos. Maybe kos is a species of underwater things.
>>337910504
It could even be A mother Kos instead of THE mother Kos
Idiots going on about "it's Kos not Kosm lelele" piss me the fuck off, consider other options guys
>>337908115
>can't understand a basic analogy
If From wanted any boss to be done without leveling to 200, they wouldn't have put it in.
The post was addressing doing Maria without parrying as a challenge and you're being autistic for no reason. It's your problem that you feel like a pathetic loser for cheesing the boss with easy-mode mechanics like parrying.
Plus the desperate way you keep implying parrying is the only mechanic with which bosses can be made piss-easy is beyond pathetic.
xXK0sKid1997Xx > Nameless King > Gascan > Solomon
>>337910662
Yeah, I just mean he's referring to one specific kos thing. Kinda like the big kos. You know, the mother kos.
STANDING
Do the thing where you parry him indefinitely
Is OoK a great one? His yaoooowww doesn't sound very indescribable
>>337912263
Kos is a Great One therefore it is even his Orphan
>>337912351
does that mean caryll runes are just a bunch of yaooooowws and reeeeeeees
LITERALLY WHAT
>>337905616
I fucking suck shit at parrying, but the Champ is an easy boss even without it.
BOSSES STAGGER
GAME DROPPED
Laurence, the Abhorrent Beast andthe Cainhurst Croware all trickier than OoK tbqh
>>337912496
No, that sound was an infant screaming, the orphan of Kos is seconds/minutes old the equivalent of a newborn and that's the only real reason it's actually beatable
Caryll runes are the only possible way for us to comprehend the words of the great ones, they simply cannot make sense or maybe even be perceivable without them
>>337912496
I think it's a little more deep than that. While the Caryll runes descriptions talk about "sounds" I think it's better to refer to them as thoughts. We should see the japanese version of the item.
>>337912951
This anon explained better the concept I was trying to say.
Orphan becomes one of the most fun fights when you realize you can parry almost everything and you learn what is worth trying to parry and what is too risky, also you can learn stuff like just walking a few steps and charging your backstab when he jumps since he'll always go right over your head and land for an easy hit
also when he swings with the "wire" if you dodge in during the first spin he'll attack immediately, so you just need to shoot your gun right away and you'll get a parry 100% of the time (if you mess the distance and he does the second swing if the bullet hits it makes him flinch and his weapon JUMPS over you)
>>337897552
good times
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4bf2n_YTbU
>this whole autistic argument about difficulty between the games
can we fucking finally drop the meme that Souls games are difficult, seriously?
>retards who wasted time and health trying to parry him instead of dodging 100% of his attacks
>waaah he was hard
>retards who locked on to stormdrake and then had camera issues and never tried just not locking on
>waaaaahhh this camera is bullshit cheating game waah waah
>>337905993
You don't know about camera issues till you fight the Headless Bloodletting Beast
>>337898087
>thrashes around 3 times
>backstep away from them just barely
>he immediately attacks again with new tracking
FUCK YOU
>>337895052
I think people had problems with him because he was very unpredictable and very fast.
>>337897000
!!!!!!!!
Kos or Kosm
1.
Kos
19 votes (50%)
2.
Kosm
19 votes (50%)
Wew Kos_
Had issues with herbecause demon fists have NO RANGE
You guys are retarded.
The difficulty of a boss is dependent on the player. Some bosses are going to give some players a harder time than others. I beat Nameless King 3rd try, yet I died many times to Dancer and Pontiff. But the consensus is that NK is one of the hardest in the game. I just found him easier than most, and Dancer harder than most.
>>337918238
This. I spent an entire motherfucking day to try to beat Paarl, and on the other end I've beaten the shit out of OoK 2nd try. Generally I've noticed in my souls experience that I have some kind of issues beating the four legged types of bosses than humanoid ones.
Orphan was tougher than anything in DS3 period.
I only had to do 2 tries on Nameless because I didn't know what to expect the first and the Champ Gundyr being hard meme is hilarious. It was a first try for him and hes even easier when he has no second form like at the start.
>>337901534
>Not the dragon in DS3 that you literally do a drop off attack to kill it and you basically don't fight it
Nope I can count alot more if you want.
>>337896575
>Bait out Gascoigne's roll attack
>shoot
>Get an easy riposte
>Second Phase
>Bombard the shit out of him with firebombs
This was my after my first death and I don't even read guides.
>>337894819
the best boss in the series.
>>337896575
>ebrietas
>hard
bet youre the same shitter who thinks blood"walk to the right" beast is hard right?
you're full of shit anyways, beat everyboss in bb in 1-3 tries, both nameless, pontiff and L&L took me 6-8, easily harder than any easyborne bosses.
>>337899240
This comic is so stupid and only really exists to allow shitters to complain about easy bosses
>>337895052
>no camera problems
>>337895970
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxbkEReq5ik
>>337896575
Pontiff sulayvahn, nameless king, twin princes, soul of cinder (who is far more versatile and challenging than gehrman) and champion gundyr are all honestly harder than anything in bloodborne outside of the defiled chalices and dlc.
Even in the DLC, laurence, maria and living failures are all relatively simple.
I'd even put ludwig on the same difficulty level as nameless king, as the only real difficulty in the fight comes from the charging and jumping attacks in the first phase.
Gascoigne was only even "tough" as a result of the relative unfamiliarity of the boss system in bloodborne, play against him on ng+ or again on ng and you will realise just how god damn simple he is.
By comparison, DS3 is relatively lenient with it's early game bosses, but I personally found abyss watchers to be a fair comparison by way of their fighting style and npc like status and relative closeness to the beginning of the game, and I largely found them far more difficult than Gascoigne ever was.
Ebrietas herself literally just slams her head on the ground tons of times if you are up close, the only real difficulty in the fight comes from trying to dodge the charge if you are locked on, as the circling strafe mechanic will make you get hit by the smallest of tentacles on her left or right, dealing for whatever reason full body damage, her tentacle slashes similarly, do a ludicrously high amount of damage depending on your position, not to mention suffering from the standard "BB let's inflate the bosses health pool 2-3 times beyond what it should really be" design that bloodborne applies to several of it's bosses, orphan, laurence and others as examples.
None of this really matters though, as your first souls game will always, without a doubt be your hardest, and after replaying all the souls games recently, the mechanical challenge of the later humanoid fights in dark souls 3, orphan of kos and ludwig are far, far ahead of any other bosses in the series.
